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Why Start Now?

To expect Obama to speak out against his minion’s boorish, often aggressive behavior? That’s my response to the following article, The Ugly Side of the Inauguration: Obamamania’s Mean Streak (and MAJOR H/T to American Girl in Italy for this link). The author, Mr. Frederick, had this to say:

Ironic that on Inauguration Day, when President Barack Obama told Americans it was time to take personal responsibility and “grow up” as a country, some of his supporters behaved like spoiled children in booing George W. Bush.

And, sadly, neither Obama nor any leader in the public spotlight that day seized the moment to admonish the boorish behavior.

It would have been nice had Obama had the presence of mind in his inaugural speech to not only allude to scripture in saying it’s time to put away “childish things” but to also have told the boo-birds that their behavior was inappropriate and the embodiment of those “childish things.”

He might have said: “Isn’t it enough to be just happy for me? When you boo the former president, you fail to understand what this solemn event is all about — the peaceful transition of power. This is not a football game. Nor is it a Third World bloodless coup. This is American democracy at work. If you can’t respect that, then leave. Now.”

Like I said, why the hell would Obama start now? He hasn’t bothered to say anything to any one of his minions at any point during the entire primary or election season, so why would he speak out for Mr. Bush?

And here is another little problem I have - him saying Obama should have said, “Isn’t it enough to be just happy for me?” Um, what? Yes, we should all be happy for The Boy Who Would Be Dictator because this has nothing to do with our actual country. Wowie.

Mr. Frederick’s shock continues:

But no one mustered the courage to say that. While I thought Obama’s speech was otherwise thought-provoking and worthy, he missed an opportunity to call out these boors and chastise their behavior. By not doing so, I am afraid that Obama essentially condoned this kind of mob intolerance. There is already a hateful mean streak among some Obamamaniacs. Left unchecked, it can fester into something quite un-American and un-democratic.

In case you missed it, when President George W. Bush was announced to the crowd, some booed loudly, shocking even the commentators on the official Obama network, MSNBC. One section of onlookers sang, “Nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, goodbye.” And, finally, as Bush left the White House, one deep thinker took the opportunity to give the “one-finger salute,” thus saying more about himself than anything else.

This from a movement that fancies itself all about peace, love and global karma.

Where in the HELL Has this man been? Clearly, he cannot distinguish between the mantras of the Obama Party and the REALITY of the Obama Party. How many, many times have we written about this, the cruel, aggressive, demeaning, sexist, even misogynistic behavior of Obama’s followers, and that is just toward Secretary of State Hillary Clinton!! It would seem Mr. Frederick’s blindfold and earplugs served him well if he was unaware of these, um, “shenanigans.” The “one-finger salute? Like the one Obama gave to Clinton detailed in THIS article?

He continues:

Now look, it would be a mistake to paint all Democrats and Obama supporters with the actions of these few on Inauguration Day. And, according to news reports, some in the crowd tried hard to shush the boo-birds. That is a hopeful sign.

But let’s also not ignore the obvious. There is a growing faction of the American left that seeks revenge more than righteousness.

Intolerant of dissenting views, this faction thinks as comedian Janeane Garofalo does that some members of the opposing political party should be “jailed.” Terrorist acts (such as mailing envelopes of white power to Mormon temples because the gay marriage vote in California went the church’s way) are seen by this faction as understandable and acts of legitimate political expression.

But of course. Target the Mormons, thus the Senate Majority Leader (why does everyone always forget that Harry Reid is a MORMON, and ANTI-Choice? I just don’t get that.) So, yes, Janeane, let us completely deny that even before the election, the NY Times was predicting that it would be OBAMA’S supporters that would vote IN Prop. 8. That, in fact, was the reality. It was the African American community coming out in droves that tipped the scales, as detailed HERE and HERE.

Mr. Frederick does touch on the issue of race, too:

There is also an ugly racial component to it. We first saw it with Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who said, among other things, that white America had deliberately inflicted black Africa with AIDS.

When the Rev. Wright first hit the national stage, we hardly knew what to make of his irrational and separatist statements. Consequently, we pretty much ignored the substance of Wright’s racially divisive rhetoric and focused on it as a day-to-day political story. It made us more comfortable, I think.

But in light of the things we saw at the inauguration, it may be time to revisit the dangers of intolerance and hate — no matter the color of the person who makes them — and nip this ugly mean streak in the bud.

As our president said, it is time to grow up. (Sherman Frederick (sfrederick@reviewjournal.com) is publisher of the Review-Journal and president of Stephens Media.

Well, that is just laughable - to expect the most juvenile, petulant, arrogant, immature, empty-suit to tell his minions to grow up. HAHAHAHAHA!! Yeah, maybe when he does.

Beside that, though, is the convenient amnesia of Mr. Frederick regarding what the Rev. Lowery said at the inauguration (h/t to LisaB), highlighted in Pat Racimora’s article, “A Profound Prayer Until..>Wrong Turn!.” To recap, he said this:

Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around … when yellow will be mellow … when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right.

Holy cow. Yeah, I think that qualifies as having a racial component.

But it also begs the question WHY Rev. Wright’s incendiary, separatist comments were not addressed more fully? And why his connection, as well as Louis Farrakhan’s, to Obama was continually glossed over by the majority of those in the MSM? Because they were afraid of being called racists? Or because they knew it would be real trouble for Obama if they actually did their job and exposed the belief system in which Obama was a willing participant? Some of us were paying attention, though. Do a “search at: NoQuarter on Rev. Wright, and you will get page after page after page of articles that at least have some mention of him, if not dealing with him directly (far too many to link to here), beginning with this one in March.

Same goes for the “boorish” behavior of Obama’s supporters. The Palin (and Clinton) t-shirts? The intimidation/bullying at the caucuses? “Iron My Shirt” buffoons? Obama turning away from Clinton without greeting her at the SOTU? Obviously, I could go on and on with examples, all of which have been well documented at NQ and other sites. Which raises this question: where in the hell has this guy been, expecting Obama to change his stripes NOW? Just because it was Bush being booed? Because at no time has Obama acted like a “grown up” when his crowds have gone off on his competition - not once. He has been their role model for boorish behavior from debates to rallies. So for anyone to expect anything different now just because he was sworn in a few times is nothing short of delusional.

So to recap, it is way past time to take off the blindfold and take out the earplugs. The booing? Typical. Comments like Garofalo’s? Typical. Intimidation of dissenters? Typical. (Don’t believe me? Just ask the Justice Department since they are suing the Black Panthers.) Racial division by clergy? Typical.

This is who Obama is. To expect him to challenge behavior in which he himself engages is nuts.

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Comment by Steve_in_KC | 2009-01-26 21:42:57

Obama is doing as he always has done, cater to the whims of his retinue, the eternal suckup to peer pressure, trying to be cool in the eyes of his peeps.

Were he to shush them or scold them, it might wake them up to the notion that he’s not really one of them, never was, and never will be.

Racially, he’s the ultimate Oreo. Behaviorly, he’s always trying to fit in with the “in” crowd while always floating above them with an air of indifference. He wouldn’t dare chastise them. That might pop the bubble.

I suspect that when the bubbles start popping, it will become a chain reaction of discontent, disenchantment, and general disappointment for millions of his hopey-dopeys.

Comment by tek | 2009-01-27 09:42:56

Steve: I believe you are exactly right. All adults know the reaction when spoiled teens are scolded–they turn on you. Obama’s “youth” enjoy believing he’s as crass and callous as they are.

 
 

Comment by socalannie | 2009-01-26 21:47:21

from Mr. Frederick’s article:

Now look, it would be a mistake to paint all Democrats and Obama supporters with the actions of these few on Inauguration Day.

Actions of a few on Inaug Day? Wow. This guy is woefully uninformed if he thinks there are just a “few” bad-behaving Obama supporters. Think of everything we all went through last year!

Mr. Freds article minimalizes the true extent of the hatred and prejudice that marked last years poliical campaigns.

Great article, Rev Amy (as usual). You’ve nailed it!

Comment by wodiej | 2009-01-26 22:05:56

he hasn’t visited any blogs has he?

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:15:42

Gee, great behavior by the teenage GIRLS who were wearing “Palin is a C**t” t-shirts and we ALL know Obama was laughing his ass off about it. Pathetic.

Comment by Naomi | 2009-01-27 01:06:17

That is an absolute lie and you know it. He did NOT give Hillary the finger (as evidenced from numerous shots of the gesture-which he has a habit of doing ALL the time by the way) from different angles. You see what you want to see.
A few morons who booed the ex-President??? that’s just what it was…do you really think Obama was even aware of this?? give me a break - your goddess Hillary LOST the primary race because she ran a lousy campaign - period. No cheating, no conspiracy - nothing - just a well run campaign that knew the value of EVERY VOTE, whether a caucus or primary, something Hillary never bothered with.
Your hatred of Obama and the way you posters attack him, his family and those who support him is the most juvenile crap I have ever seen. Are you aware of what other blogs say about this cesspool?? i have not been here for ages - and I honestly thought you might have given up the smear on the president and his family, but obviously not. And, you have the nerve to call the handful of spectators who boo’d Bush immature and boorish?? they have nothing on you, nothing.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-27 01:08:21

And you get paid for this? Cesspool? This is about the only place around with TRUTH. Your sites are so full of lies and propaganda that they should be illegal for people like you, under the age of 18.

 

Comment by socalannie | 2009-01-27 01:24:39

Feel free to leave bot. No one here gives a rats ass what you hooligans think, altho the part of your comment where you state that the O didn’t give the finger when he was talking about Hillary, and later McCain was awfully damn funny! You bots are really bizarre people if watching someone scratch (?) their face with their middle finger makes you all break out in group cheer and applause. Thats really funny! Leader scratches face with middle finger…crowds roar their approval.

 

Comment by AnnieCollier | 2009-01-27 02:43:36

And yet, as shown in the video, all of his followers thought he was “giving Hillary the bird” and laughed at it. It got a big rise out of the crowd and a smile from Obama. Just as uncouth and ridiculous as you are Naomi. You are out of touch with reality. The crash is going to be hard. I hope you have someone to babysit you when you land.

 

Comment by tek | 2009-01-27 09:41:16

You kiddies know nothing about real politics and you can’t read. Hillary never lost the nomination and Obama sure didn’t win it. He was awarded double delegates for every AA district he won in the primaries, he was given Hillary’s elected delegates after the RBC meeting and he still didn’t have enough pledged delegates to claim the nomination. Durbin and the boys had to go out and threaten all the Super Delegates with either voting Obama or seeing their careers ruined. That’s how your hero got on the ballot.

He’s just a figurehead like his hero, Ronald Reagan.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Cindy | 2009-01-26 22:01:51

Great post, Rev. Amy.
Honestly, that guy is clueless. Obama LOVED the fact that they “booed” Bush.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:13:47

And, yet, who will go down in history as having the “class?” Dirtbag filth Obama, or Bush who said such kind words about the Fraud? Hmmm…Can you say BACKFIRE?

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:30:00

Obama failed to stand and clap the success of the surge in Iraq…That’s the kind of thug mentality we’re dealing with now

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:32:19

Obama was the first President in something like 56 years to NOT attend the Military Officers Inaugural Ball. He totally blew them off. Guess it was more important to be with Hollywood, than real Americans. Just like when he couldn’t be bothered with the Veteran Hospital in Germany because there was no press and he would rather shoot hoops. How many more clues do the sicko lefties NEED? He’s GARBAGE.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:40:05

I just hate being right all the time..Means I might be poor someday or without a country.
Time to join that resistance..

 

Comment by tek | 2009-01-27 09:37:48

Is it me or is it kind of weird how closely aligned Obie is to Hollywood? Seriously, I have long list of movie stars now whose films I’ll never pay money to see. Maybe it’s the Oprah connection. Dunno, but I don’t watch her either.

 
 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:36:40

Because…uhhhh…he doesn’t give a damn????

 
 
 

Comment by Tess | 2009-01-26 22:07:47

While we all want to stoke the “we’re all in it together with this President now” flame, this post and what it lists and evokes is paramount. We cannot afford to forget and/or forgive this opportunistic vulgar boor. This is truly what he was and continues to be.
Thanks, Rev. Amy.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:10:49

That horrific sham of an Inauguration was Black Tuesday and the end of America. How did this happen to us? I said this before…I get notified by email every time someone joins my “resistance movement” sites. I can’t even tell you the HUNDREDS of emails I get a day. And it has escalated since the sham of Black Tuesday. I think it’s even more disenchanted Dems who are crossing over to the right side.

Comment by AnnieCollier | 2009-01-27 02:45:54

Careful, do over. Some will be there just to spy and ingratiate themselves. They are a devious bunch.

 
 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:11:53

PS Thank you RRRAmy…and thank you for not drinking the Kool Aid and keeping it real.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-01-26 23:30:49

Thank y’all for all of the good comments!

And you don’t have to worry abt me jumping on the, “well, let’s just all sing Kumbayah” train, either. I never did it for Bush who took the White House through theft, why would I do it for Obama? (Frankly, I think Obama was even worse than Bush in that regard - at least the Republicans didn’t steal votes from EACH OTHER. Just sayin’.)

And here’s the thing - never mind that this is how Obama and his minions have acted since the beginning, but there IS such a thing as DECORUM, which has been sorely lacking from the Obama Camp. I can’t stand Bush, but there is a time and a place for certain behaviors, and at a solemn occasion is NOT the time to act like a bunch of punks. IMHO, that is.

Great conversation!

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:32:44

THANK YOU RRRAMY…There will NEVER be “decorum” from the Obama camp. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Those crapstains hate America. Oh well.

 
 
 

Comment by barry bums a ciggie | 2009-01-26 22:12:01

Where in the HELL Has this man been?

LOL, that was my thought EXACTLY!

Stinky BO doesn’t have common decency to ever call this kind of shit out. If he doesn’t know that giving the middle finger to the former first lady and sitting senator is a classless act, then how could he ever tell his minions to grow up.

Obamathugs and the new Dems are an embarrassment. Right down to Tom Hanks singly out the Mormons who backed Prop 8 as “un-American”. Maybe Mr. Hanks should see them stats of who actually voted to uphold prop. 8. Listen, we live in America, and there’s nothing “un-American” about a citizen exercising his/her right to vote. You don’t hear Mr. Hanks talking about ACORN being “un-American” for trying to mess around with the voting process or Obama supporters coming in by the busloads to commit fraud during the primary caucus. Until then, I just want to say to people like Hanks…STFU.

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:31:23

As you point out, what is wrong with Tom Hanks here is his hypocricy and cowardice - if he so obejcted to the passage of Prop 8 in California — he should have been honest enough to detail the fact that it was Obama’s supporters who helped put it over the top — NOT the Mormons. But he would not DARE do that.

Furthermore, Mr. Hanks, since doing “Private Ryan” has been such a big advocate for our soldiers — how much more hypocritical is it not to acknowledge how obvious it is that Pres. Obama has no regard for the military (not to mention backing off of repealing don’t ask don’t tell) — I wonder if Mr. Hanks will now tell President Obama that HE is un-American for not making sure gays in the military have the same rights as everyone else.

I’m waiting…

Comment by andrew191 | 2009-01-27 02:09:22

Tom Hanks apologized for that statement. The statement was stupid and he made a regrettable mistake by making it, but unlike Obama he has the integrity to fess up to the mistake.

It is bizarre that the individual in the posting seemed shocked by the boo-ers, and by Obama’s failure to admonish them. Obama feeds off of the malignant behavior of his followers, the more foul the behavior, the greater tribute he is given. Obama is a pathological Narcissist, everything he has done, and will do, confirms this. While Obama is smart enough not to encourage such behavior, he relishes the fact that his followers worship him enough to behave in disgraceful, and soon, violent ways. McCain gave Obama a chance in the debates to denounce the dirtbags that wore “Palin is a c**t” T-shirts, but Obama instantly changed the subject.
By remaining silent on the issue of the dispicable behavior of his worshippers, he is inviting more of such behavior, and actually raising the bar for future tributes of filth and disgust.

My son just informed me that the Obama scumbags that hanged Palin in effigy have put the dummy up for sale on E-Bay. I gotta get a drink.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2009-01-27 04:51:16

what has become of the democratic party…..?

 
 
 
 

Comment by oowawa | 2009-01-26 22:12:57

Well, I guess criticism of ugly behavior by Obots depends on whom is the target. Clintons have always been “fair game.” Sarah Palin was obviously “fair game.” George W. Bush was NOT “fair game” at the inauguration, but only because he occupied the same Office that The One was about to assume, and so dissing W was also dissing O, just by proximity.

Is Hillary Clinton still “fair game”? That’s a real problem, isn’t it?

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:15:01

I’m always skeptical about any argument that suggests solemn events trump free speech. If all shrubby got when he hit the road was a booing, he got off easy. The smooth transition of power is secure.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:16:58

Yeah, I know. Asking a liberal to have class is asking too much.

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:22:00

It’s tough to focus on class when you have all this blood that the shrub whipped up for us on your hands. LOL but I’ll bet you look hilarious trying.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:23:21

LOL…My dog threw up today. Blame Bush. That’s not going to last long. Enjoy it while you can. Remember that people are documenting the truth about who caused what problems. Thank GOD my kids will know the truth about the Demoncraps.

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:27:21

why would you blame you dog blowing chunks on bush? Are you feeding your dog (with class of course) shrubbies handwork quota of dead babies? There are piles of them.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:29:45

Nah, I told my doggies that the Demoncraps were in power, destroying our country. The hurled in honor of the fact that they are Patriot Puppies who love their country.

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:32:33

but that doesn’t make any sense. LOL firt you blamed it on bush, now you blame it on the democrats (LMAO) you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about do you?

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:35:36

Uhhhh…you’re cute when you’re silly. Now, do you REALLY think I blamed Bush for my babies blowing chunks? Awww…go back and read it again.

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:39:31

I would but there wasn’t any personal responsibility taken for you feeding what your dog barked. But then, that was always just a talking point right? LOL it’s so much easier for you to blame the guy on the other side of the country for what you did.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:43:00

Nah, it’s just easier for the Demoncrap America hating left batwing freaks to hide their agenda behind blaming Bush. All of a sudden we will wake up, in 2012, having blamed Bush for our ingrown toenails, and Obama will have literally become Hitler II. Great rhetoric.

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Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:46:56

well, actually your rhetoric was kinda stupid. But then, here you are trying to blame BOBO for eight years of shrubbery. At least be consistent and say BOBO inherited the mess that bush built.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:50:51

That’s retarded. Then the wingbats who worship the Clintons would have to admit that he did nothing but ride the coattails of those before him who straightened out the economy. That would kill you nuts to admit, right? The only things that have ever gone wrong in life belong to the GOP? LMFAO. Good luck with that. So, Hillary didn’t vote for the war in Iraq??? Obama didn’t vote “present” as he did 140 times. Great group you have there.

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 22:55:15

Hlllary did vote for the war in Iraq. Not only that but she stood by the vote even though it probably cost her the nom. But I can see how your fantasy world might be more appealing to you. Evanglic conservatism was never grounded in reality. LOL you guys are great at passing the buck though.

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:02:56

WC..
Hillary was brave and a true patriot when she got up and cheered the success of our troops in Iraq at the State of the Union while Obama sat on his hands wishing for defeat and placating to his left America haters.

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:04:35

there’s no doubt about that moss

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:10:01

I have watched you accuse anyone who doesn’t agree with the mentally ill, so called “progressive” (translate America hating) agenda “evangelical.” I see you do it every time. Where do you get that? I am not Christian, Evangelical, whatever. I just think your party is a bunch of filthy criminals, as do any smart people. Do you read? Read this blog.

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:15:46

Right, you’re one of those greed before county conservatives who happily aligned themselves with the faith before country conservatives for the last thirty years. I’d be careful about what you call the left fringe. The same is true about you right fringers. Fringe, is fringe..

is fringe.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:24:09

Yeah, the problem with you nuts is that loving America = the hard right. Why don’t YOU try loving this country and your freedoms, rather than piss and crap on those who defend it? Kind of makes you look like a whiny, ungrateful puss.

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:33:08

You love this country? Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. You SAY you love this country. Your grand mantra back in the nineties was to shrink government of the people down to a size where you could drag it into a bathroom and drown it in the thumb. Government of the people was what this country was founded on. Every federal employee takes an oath to protect the document that lays the foundation for government of the people. They don’t take an oath to protect the homeland or judeo christian values or the market economy, because the country wasn’t founded on those things. It was founded on government of the people. That you right fringers would openily call for the destruction of government of the people… nah you don’t love America.

You just SAY you love America.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:35:44

Your little rant is a tad psycho darling. Get some serious help.

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:37:55

tub

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:39:43

LOL it might be psycho, if it wasn’t true.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:41:19

LOL…every time I see you on a thread you are bashing patriots who love America. If I buy the tickets, will you move to Cuba and take your mental friends with you? When I look at the warts on my doggies’ asses I think of you nuts.

 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:44:17

ROFLMAO now I know you’re a freak. You’re calling the BOBOweenies
I bash patriots, when they are just the other side of the fringe coin.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:39:38

Please don’t call Democrats names. There are a lot of us who screamed about Obama from the highest hill — and many crossed party lines for the first time in their lives to vote for McCain/Palin. And were horribly derided and pressured for doing so.

Many lost friends and evn family relationships over this.

Many also left the Democratic party in protest for what these liars did in the primary.

We do not deserve your enmity. I know you are angry about Obama. We are, too.

Just because we think Bush was a bad president doesn’t mean we blame Republicans for everything. I certainly do not — there is plenty of blame to go around.

I will tell you what — it is an absolute shame that the Clintons could be doged for eight years over very little and the President could be impeached over a personal transgression and failing — but Bush gets off scott free for Katrina, Abu Graib, the Abramoff scandal, gutting the constitution, and ignoring intelligence briefings in advance of 9/11.

I do not advocate booing him either at this event. Just six months ago, many Republicans were singing the praises of us Dems. who refused to fall in line with Obama. We did not back down. How quickly it seems you forget.

Let’s keep it civil, please.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:43:05

So, it was the Republicans who committe FRAUD, stabbed Hillary in the back, and brought America Obama who is literally the coffin nail for our country? Let me compliment the Dems.

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:47:02

Did you not read my post — I LEFT the Democratic party over this primary FRAUD.

No one is blaming Republicans for that.

By the same token, we cannot now pretend Bush is a saint. But I would not stand there and boo him, either.

Please at least give me the courtesy of a fair reading of what I wrote before you react.

I wanted the very qualified Hillary to be President more than anything. I have never been so outraged as I was by virtue of what I saw the Dems do last year.

That still doesn’t make Bush a great President. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:49:58

Ani…Why are we arguing? Can you quote where I said “Bush is a great President?” Is there something going on here about revisionist history or altering posts? Wow.

 
 

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-26 23:47:41

you should know being you were a part of it. You had change your name to show your face around here again you’re such a disgrace to this country.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:51:28

If you are talking to me, wow, I have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe the Obots are right that there are nothing but sickos here.

Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-27 00:02:16

LOL it looks like the censors are on your side.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-27 00:05:44

What in God’s name are you talking about?

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Comment by WildChild | 2009-01-27 00:08:47

the post that got scrubbed three times by the censors here. And ah…LOL and I don’t think God had anything to do with it.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by truthtelling007 | 2009-01-27 06:00:23

Actually yes, the Republicans tried to sacrifice Hillary for 16 years, and still do. What planet you been on? You may forget their Hillary, Shillary hatred, but I don’t.

Where do you think the Obots got their ammo? they weren’t at all original, and neither are you. I wrote papers about your kind in high school 30 years ago, it was on the McCarthy era red scare.

You are a vicious ideologue and a laughing stock. But keep up your hatred, so the mid-terms will put your damn elephant to rest.

 

Comment by Rob G in Chicago | 2009-01-27 16:16:55

Yes, in fact the Republicans did give us Obama. They showed that you can cheat and game the rules, and win elections without any consequences. Then they showed that when it was difficult to get away with cheating, Rove and the Bush campaign could just scare the crap out of people, and let the fear of the voters carry them back into office. Despite their contempt for American values and the constitution, we have not been attacked again on American soil, and we are supposed to thank Bush for keeping the boogeyman at bay? I haven’t been attacked in my home by a bear for the past 8 years, so should Bush get credit for keeping the bears away as well ? I will never forget or forgive the Obama campaign for the manner in which they were annointed, but I don’t wish for him to fail, and I intend to remain vigilent and skeptical while watching his actions as well as his words. As uneasy as I may be over the uncertainties of an Obama Administration, I don’t long for the days of a justice department run by idealogues from an evangelical university, intelligence operations inside the Pentagon that are used to circumvent and steamroll the established intelligence community and to support the wacky and dangerous notons of Rumsfeld and Cheney, FEMA and other government agencies run by incometent idealogues who hate government and then run the agencies from that mindset, violations of human rights and human decency that are “authorized” by tortured logic and legal arguments, hearing verbal praise for our military while providing substandard care and (after getting to the top of interminable waiting lists) denying VA benefits for wounded soldiers based on specious arguments of “pre-existing conditions”. We don’t long for the day when we can get science back out of our schools and deny basic scientific facts, while diagnosing brain activity in a comotose woman based on a video….and on and on. You may believe that Bush was a great president, but there are many at this site, while skeptical about Obama, who feel that Bush, Jr. may have been the worst President EVER, and that everything he touched or influenced in any way turned to crap.

 
 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:45:07

PS…May I ask…I have read your incredible writing and I respect you. But I can’t continue that respect, nor would many people, if you write your essays and then continue to feed and belong to the DNC. That makes no sense. Stop defending the people who broke your spirit and that of 18,000,000 others.

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:48:38

I said I LEFT the DNC on June 7th — the day Hillary suspended.

I have not returned.

I vote for McCain for God’s sake. It was the first time in my life I voted for a Republican. Who is that returning to the Democrats????

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:50:36

I meant to say “How” is that reutrning to the Dems…

Believe me, I have not.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:53:11

Ani, okay is this directed towards me? I get it. I got it a long time ago. What am I supposed to say? Just tell me.

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:57:55

You implied above that I am defending the Dems who rigged this thing — and I am telling you that is the last thing I would ever do. (Still doesn’t mean I’m crazy about Bush — those two things are mutually exclusive).

But I think most of the Dem leadership just plain blows. That’s why I said buh-bye.

Certainly, you don’t have to respond any way in particular. I just don’t want to be accused of something I am not doing.

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Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-27 00:00:20

Ani…Any Dem who stays a Dem after this..well..uhh..Mental Health Care is free. Not towards YOU. I’m just sayin’.

 

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-27 00:03:06

Got it, IWADO.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-27 00:04:11

Ani, I love my country. Really I do. But, come on, haven’t you seen enough to say WTF?

 

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-27 00:27:04

Well of course. And if you have been reading my writing, which I certainly appreciate — I have been saying WTF for a year!!

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-27 00:29:14

Ani…it changes a lot here daily.

 

Comment by truthtelling007 | 2009-01-27 06:04:12

IWADO, aka OAIF, aka NQSUCKS,
says: “I love my country”

no, you don’t. You love your vision of a pure country, pure by your narrow bigoted chauvinistic measures. If you truly loved this country you’d spend less time displaying your pathology against who you see as “left” or “liberals”. You love your ignorant never really happened view of America. Get over your super-patriot bullshit.

You insult hard working, loyal, and patriotic Americans who are nothing like your pathology.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Magic Puzzle Box | 2009-01-28 10:07:57

I’ve been trying to figure out what to do about that. I’ve been a Democrat from the start, though hardly active or even interested in politics, so it’s in name only, but now with what happened in this election, I’ve been wondering if I should switch parties. Problem is in PA you can’t vote in the primary if you become an Independent. So that means if I leave, I go Republican. It’s hard because I don’t agree with either party right now, so it doesn’t feel like much of a choice.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by candymarl | 2009-01-26 22:15:08

But Obama supporters were never mean and boorish during the primaries or the GE.

Oh wait. That was an alternate universe.

Never mind.

 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-01-26 22:19:10

I agree with Steve, Rev. Amy. We’ve all seen and heard this time after time. Why would the behavior be different at the inauguration?

Obama’s main [and only] strength is to continue this unreality trance, the unquestioning, unblinking supporters. He’s trying to push the kitchen sink down the throat of the nation with this stimulus package. For the unthinking, there are “no questions asked.” Everything is fine, hunky-dory because “The One” is in charge. I’m simply astonished at the posts I read on the far-left blogs. Some of the comments are beyond sensibility.

But that bubble will burst at some point. And that’s when the “Great Disappointment” will arrive. They’ll need clinics to treat the depressed and newly awake.

It’s coming. And it won’t be pretty. I’ll have no sympathy for Barack Obama then because he’s encouraged all this, fanned the fires of this over-the-top adulation.

Once his supporters realize he’s merely mortal? And inexperienced to boot? That will be a day of true reckoning.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:21:43

They’ll need clinics to treat the depressed and newly awake.

LMFAO so true!

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:27:17

I want a do over too…
For my health I can’t watch NBC. They are responsible for allowing Obama and his socialist minions to spook the markets out of 30 trillion and soon 30 trillion more….
We are now in the blame cycle
Companies that has good profits that payed their people good are now the pariahs and are being scrutinized for the jets they bought etc.
It was all part of an economy that seems so distant now….

Prosecutions and investigations and blame and second guessing…That’s the spiral were in

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:34:12

NBC and MSNBC were bought and paid for. I haven’t watched them in over a year. OR CNN. That’s not news. That’s a pathetic Hollywood PR campaign. All tied up in a George Soros footing the bill bow.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:36:58

Yeah I know…But I got a wife that likes all her news in 30 minutes..Old school!

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:40:27

I would rather stick hot pokers in my eyes than ever watch Olberbama or Mr. Tingle. That’s not news.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:44:12

Overbite and tweetie are traitors.
When we are attacked again they will be found hugging each other under the desk crying out for Bush to protect them.
I get my news from Patriot radio and blogs like this

I also like Atlas shrugs…Kind of mood I’ve been in lately

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:47:41

God bless Pamela Geller is all I can say. When America is lying about Israel, and promoting terrorist Anti-Israel propaganda and lies, she posts the truth. God bless Israel when that drunk Imbiben and hater Obama get done with them.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:56:35

I love Mark Levin also.

and I also really dig this Patriot gal that’s making a movie about the fraud and the caucuses

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:00:22

:mrgreen: Me too! I saw the film. What cool people making it. LOL. You’re a smart man Mr. Moss.

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Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:04:24

I wish I had half the smarts of that girl!

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:06:16

Yeah, me too. What a genius. But she’s kind of fun too, from what I hear. Like crazy fun.

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:14:27

That interests me greatly!

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:17:17

Yeah, I thought it would :mrgreen: But I’m guessing you both already knew it.

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:30:26

Yes IWADO,
I’m a great student of all those involved in exposing Obama and his Salinsky scheme to take over our country.

 

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:34:17

May God Bless America that good trumps evil. America has never seen evil like Obama and we aren’t ready for it.

 

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:38:55

God bless the many patriots that will stand up and fight the good fight in the coming years. This is no less than survival of our country and the traditions we hold dear.
I’m off to bed. got an early flight in the morning

Good night to all!

 
 
 

Comment by adagioforstrings | 2009-01-26 23:10:58

Somewhat ironically, the Christian evangelical station, TBN, has been running pro-Israel reports. They’ve sent their televangelists to interview Israeli government officials who point out such minor details that Hamas launches rockets from civilian locations & invests in tunnels to smuggle weapons but not air raid shelters….

Comment by JozefAL | 2009-01-27 01:36:37

It’s hardly ironic, adagio. The whole philosophy of the Christian Right has been based on the very existence of Israel. Haven’t you read ANY of the “end times” prophecies that the religious right have been spouting for the last 30 years (give or take)? They NEED Israel since, according to “end times” theory, Jesus is “supposed to return to Earth” AFTER the re-establishment of Israel as a nation.
THAT is the ONLY reason the Religious Right has been so pro-Israel (if not for the “end times” scenario, well, let’s not forget that Evangelical Christianity, especially as it originated in the South, was VERY anti-Jewish–that old “the Jews killed our Lord” BS).
It was reported a couple of years ago that the Israeli government turned down a proposal from one of the Evangelical Christian leaders who wanted to buy some land (I think it was for an Evangelical seminary but I don’t recall the exact details). The Israelis knew what kind of crap the guy was spouting and how he didn’t really care about the State of Israel (the other part of the “end times” prophecies note that the Jews will realize their “mistake” and FINALLY accept Jesus as the Messiah–that’s not exactly what the Jewish state wants to be associated with).
If not for the NEED by these believers in “end times” to have an Israeli nation (and a Jewish Israel, at that), we’d be right back to the period of the 1950s and 1960s when Israel’s only advocates were Jewish-Americans (many Southern Christians in that era complained about the “Jewish Conspiracy to rule America”).

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Comment by Magic Puzzle Box | 2009-01-28 10:58:44

I’m always amazed at the really strange interpretation of Christians I see in comments like this. It’s a bit more than just the “End Times” that Zionist Christians are interested in Judaism and Israel. They more than any of the other Christian groups have moved to correct historical errors in church attitudes toward Jews, to the point where they embrace Jewish interpretations of the Old Testament, embrace Jesus’ Jewish heritage, and interpret the Old Testament with the identity of Israel as Israel instead of as the church, which caused a great deal of trouble. By honoring the Jewish heritage of the faith, they have worked very hard to overcome the historical animosity that led to alot of ugliness, and the warmth is apparent on both sides. Complain about that if you like, but I only see that as a positive thing.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-01-26 22:53:18

Ever try hiding the remote? LOL.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 22:59:38

Teak,
How’s my sane friend tonight?

Problem is that she blares it in the other room when I’m trying to blog.

Sensationalized news that is hurting this country beyond belief

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:01:39

Get ear plugs Mossy. It’s the ONLY way to stay sane. I have not watched Obama since Saddleback and never will see him open his mouth ever again. Ever.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:06:01

Gosh…Must be peaceful in your house..Didn’t you say you had some dogs?

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:07:17

I have a house full of fun and noise. Obama isn’t “fun” just “noise.”

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Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-01-26 23:11:58

Obama is a mouth piece only

The movement behind him has destroyed the markets and capitalism.

Just like being mugged

Now that we’re reeling form losing 30 trillion their going to socially engineer it with social/stalinism

 
 
 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-01-26 23:12:06

Seattle Moss, I have been fine, thanks.

Nothing a good pair of headphones can’t fix. :)

Sensationalized news is like the snake oil elixirs of the 1830’s…

The MSM brain bugs are in for a real shock. Just think they will have to get their ear wax elsewhere.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Karma | 2009-01-27 02:20:10

Our local NBC news actually smoothed over Gitmo (a bit) once Obama got into office.

Rather than just the normal labels such as ‘enemy combatants’ or ‘detainees’.

They added ‘…and witnesses in future cases.’ Never heard them say such a thing when Bush was Pres.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2009-01-26 22:20:21

So this bobo finally saw the REAL Obama and is shocked?

One thing we’ve noticed is that Obama is consistent and he is bringing out the worst in his followers.

Back to the caucuses — his troops were all following a script — to many of us who supported Hillary Clinton saw similar behavior in the agitators that took over and dominated nearly all of the caucuses.

Obama knows damned well what he’s doing — this is the effect that he is seeking. He’s a passive aggressive and get others to do his dirty work. While he can appear “above it all”.

 

Comment by Obama: Dubya II Electric Boogaloo | 2009-01-26 22:35:11

This is truly a disaster of epic proporations coming up. Obama naming Hannity and Limbaugh specifically will come back to haunt them. But this is the pychosis that is going on with the far left. It’s like 8 years of pent up anger and hostility finally coming to the fore and Obama is just reflecting that with his passively allowing his bots to act that way without commenting on it.

And if you thought Obama and the Obots were bad during the election, just wait until his approval ratings drop below 50%. With the way Obama has called out Hannity and Rush it wouldn’t surprise me if they start to openly call senators and congresscritters racist if they oppose their and Obama’s legislation.

The country has already been flim-flammed with Dubya, believe me, the public is in no mood for mudslinging and finger pointing. They want results and there is no way the Dems can deliver.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 22:38:43

Obama is putting it out in the ether to start the public engendering hate for Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. so that when our First Amendment is literally GONE people will think they deserved it. Everything Obama does has an agenda. He’s prepping us for that Fairness Doctrine Fascist BS.

 

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2009-01-26 23:49:29

correct; they are in the same state of rage-filled dimentia that repuglicans were around the 2000 election. they both wanted a messiah to deliver them from all the evils caused by the other party (and were unable to look rationally at the good and the bad within both parties). as you said, reality will set in soon enough.

 
 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-01-26 23:04:01

Well spoken Rev. Amy!

It seems like a whole lot of people have just or will be putting down their copy of “Be Here Now” only to look up at “The One” with a unrelenting case of heartburn.

 

Comment by RebelCarol | 2009-01-26 23:06:18

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for a Community Organizer and the rules Obama adopted:

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people. The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.”

Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. When Alinsky leaked word that large numbers of poor people were going to tie up the washrooms of O’Hare Airport, Chicago city authorities quickly agreed to act on a longstanding commitment to a ghetto organization. They imagined the mayhem as thousands of passengers poured off airplanes to discover every washroom occupied. Then they imagined the international embarrassment and the damage to the city’s reputation.

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

Comment by Blogging with Attitude | 2009-01-26 23:13:14

you lost, get over it, move on…For a site that claims to love Hilary, she’s been on board for a year, because she knows a good leader, hence her job she took willingly, you people are a bynch of lying conmen who are still crying about getting your ass kicked instead of trying to move the country forward, utilizing the pulpit you could have if you weren’t so fucking ignorant and blinded by hate.

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:15:44

So, you yourself spoke to her about how “on board” she is with the man who stuck a butcher knife in her back, stole her nomination and GUARANTEED PRESIDENCY? So, you yourself had that talk with her. Tell me your name and I will ask if that was true. I doubt it.

 
 

Comment by Docelder | 2009-01-27 00:43:25

Good stuff, let us not forget Obama’s roots and from where he came. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Number 11 is dead on. He is trying to provoke Rush and Hannity. But, I think they are likely better at this game than Obama is. Obama’s advantage is he just has the bulk of the MSM in his pocket… for now. But, the media is addicted to tearing down America and it’s heroes. Obama’s day will come.

 
 

Comment by Blogging with Attitude | 2009-01-26 23:07:49

Funny that front pagers on this site bemoan others for insults and lack of class. Where’s that whitey tape assholes? Still making shit up, degenerate losers, get over yourselves.

 

Comment by Blogging with Attitude | 2009-01-26 23:09:57

PS. Larry, we all know you made up most of your experience and are just a poor dupe who got played by people far smarter, stop claiming to be something you aren’t, just admit your a dumb little fish trying to play in the big boys side of the pond, asshole. CIA my ass, maybe washed the floor or something

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-26 23:21:14

Blogging with Ignorance…LMFAO…where do they get you “people?” How old are you? Let’s talk in 2010 and 2012 when you and your fraudulent boss are laughing stocks.

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:53:43

I Want A Do Over –

I hope you are still here and that you will read my last response to you above — cause I think you have mistaken me.

 
 
 

Comment by State of Denial | 2009-01-26 23:09:58

Why weren’t blowhards like Hannity and Limbaugh critical of the ruinous financial irresponsibility of the Bush administration? Where were they when Bush & Company pushed for the invasion of a country that hadn’t attacked us? Where were they on freedom of speech, when outspoken Americans took issue with the need for that war? As I recall, they were vigorously promoting the assertion that those who expressed such opposition were guilty of treason and sedition. How did they weigh in on the discussion about torture?

Seems to me that Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter and the like have their own d-mn extremist agenda, that they’ve consistently promoted for years. In terms of divisiveness and political extremity, anything Obama has said pales in comparison.

Comment by adagioforstrings | 2009-01-26 23:17:38

I believe a number of conservative talk show hosts & bloggers have been quite critical of Bush’s lack of fiscal responsibility & most recently critical of the so-called stimulus turned fiasco package.

Comment by State of Denial | 2009-01-26 23:38:30

That’s an entirely valid point. Thoughtful, traditional American conservatives have taken issue with those who falsely self-label themselves as “conservatives” for years. I’m of the opinion that both the liberal and the conservative labels have been co-opted by people who have little regard for the philosophies that underly the real thing.

People like Limbaugh, for example, have turned “liberal” into an insult. They somehow forget the fact that the Constitution of the United States is one of the most liberal documents ever created, and that true liberal principles are a central part of the heritage handed down to us from the founders of the nation.

I’m annoyed that some have become critical of Bush policy only in retrospect. My suspicion is that some are simply dumping associations that no longer sell, while remaining loyal to the policies that really didn’t work.

Comment by Docelder | 2009-01-27 00:52:36

Bush II in retrospect wasn’t a conservative at all. Obama is Bush III. Meet the new boss… same as the old boss. Prepare for “change”… if you call invading Pakistan change.

 
 
 

Comment by Obama: Dubya II Electric Boogaloo | 2009-01-26 23:41:19

That Obama has to whine about Hannity and Limbaugh and personally call them out shows that Obamacus has absolutely no class. When Captain Kumbaya does that he not only lowers himself to the level of AM radio kings Hannity and Limbaugh, but gives them noteriety and power for being the ones who seem to get under his skin and have become Obama’s specific targets.

But then again, this is what happens when you pick somebody with no real experience.

 
 

Comment by Ani | 2009-01-26 23:24:15

Great article, Rev. Amy,

This is who Obama is. To expect him to challenge behavior in which he himself engages is nuts.

It is very unfortunate to realize that our President will only “speak out” about something if it advantages him politically. If surrogates or supporters behavior (no matter how bad) advantaged him, he let it stand, getting as much mileage out of it as possible. Ruthless. Hardly the new, noble politics he professes to stand for.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-01-27 10:56:31

Thanks, Ani - I appreciate it!

And yes, it is telling, sad, and unfortunate that we have a president so self-centered and narcissistic. Those characteristics he did not hide, either…

Btw, I don’t know how you were so misunderstood above, Ani. I think you have been very clear on your positions. And you’ve had some GREAT posts after the election abt Obama, the DNC, etc. I recommend, if there is confusion, that people do a search for your articles.

 
 

Comment by obamastolemyboyfriend | 2009-01-26 23:44:09

Well, as I’ve heard at No Quarter since the Inauguration, if you can’t support the man, at least respect the office. This is a huge reason that I no longer can even support or respect the office of POTUS! OBAMA DOESN’T EVEN SUPPORT OR RESPECT THE OFFICE OF POTUS! How the hell does that encourage me? Barack and MEchelle Obama are disgusting! they are a joke. They have been a joke from day one and will be a joke on their last day, whether they leave in a limo or are dragged off in handcuffs!

It is sad to make such a joke of something that should be so serious!

Comment by I Want A Do Over | 2009-01-27 00:46:19

Yes you can reduce it to that. The Obamas are a joke. Plainly and simply a joke perpetrated on the good people of America. It’s pitiful, really.

Comment by UKforDems | 2009-01-27 03:07:14

69 MILLION VOTERS - LOSER BUSH BABY

Comment by Julia | 2009-01-27 11:59:17

But you have to remove the dead people!!

 
 
 
 

Comment by Cathy in Ks. | 2009-01-27 00:15:25

I didn’t watch the inauguration because I didn’t vote for Obama and I see him as the “flip side of the coin” to Geo. W. Obama’s supporters turned me off in the democratic primaries. To say they were “rude and crude” was an understatement. Maybe it’s a “generation gap” but time was when the democratic party was the “big tent” party. It’s hardly recognizable as the party of my youth. It seems to be populated by a new type of bigotry (if you question Obama, you’re a “racist” and/or white trash.)

The strange thing is that those who want to label me as “racist” are other “white people.” I guess they think because they supported and voted for Obama that somehow their own secret racism is now absolved. It is somewhat akin to the Roman Catholic “confession” of my childhood. You enumerated your sins for the priest and then he granted you absolution and a penance of something like “two Hail Marys and three Our Fathers”.

Confession and the resulting penance never really led me to any new insights when I was a youth. I continued to list the same sins and receive the same penances. I have a feeling that all those who have followed Obama with this blind faith are one day going to wake up and realize not only is their “sin of racism” not absolved but they have invested their faith in the wrong place.

 

Comment by fidditch | 2009-01-27 05:25:18

Where to begin with this pathetic rant?

[HOW ABOUT WE STOP YOUR OWN ENDLESS RANTING ABOUT OTHERS' "RANTS" UNTIL YOU PROVIDE 1) a REAL e-mail address (using a fake address is immediate grounds for banning), and 2) a tone of MATURE discourse that is not a constant barrage of personal attacks on the other writers and readers here -- i.e., an ADULT form of discourse which, sadly, is all too often unknown to immature Obamabots. — ADMINISTRATOR. If you wish to appeal your banning: susanunpc at gmail dot com)

Blaming Obama for the actions of everyone who was in Washington D.C. on inauguration day…that’s a really desperate level of hate. You might as well blame Obama for the shoes thrown at Bush.

And Amy arguing that respect should be shown for the office of the president? This dumb rant is self-contradictory on its face.

And the “one-fingered salute” crap? The dishonesty that gets green-lighted at NQ never ceases to amaze me. Fact: he touched two fingers to his face, as the video shows and any honest person would acknowledge. But no, you quote Fox quoting bloggers like yourself making the false accusation. Quoting FOX? This is the network that threw its arms around the false rumor that Obama attended a “madrassa,” with Steve Doocey squealing, “This is HUUUGE!”

Never any retraction from the congenitally dishonest Fox News Network. And I don’t expect anything better from Amy or NQ.

 

Comment by fidditch | 2009-01-27 05:40:56

Here’s a question for you, Amy:

When that McCain supporter famously responded to McCain’s denunciation of Obama by yelling, “Kill him!” — did you criticize McCain for not rebuking the murderous sentiment?

Comment by wodiej | 2009-01-27 05:59:47

actually, no one is sure that was a McCain supporter but whoever did it, it was wrong.

As for your other concerns, Obama scratching his face w one finger, brushing off his shoulder, his supporters booing Bush, Emmanuel sticking his thumb up in to his face in reaction to Bush leaving the WH, a “Fuck George” sign at a Vet’s inaugural ball, “Sarah Palin is a cunt” t-shirts worn by Obama supporters, filthy rants by Jay Z…do you see a pattern here? Obama is not responsible for how anyone acts. But with leadership comes great responsibility. When he does not rebuke these actions, he is saying he advocates it. Do you understand that? Probably not, I am guessing you are fairly young and not mature enough to understand that.

This is not about one thing…it’s about a pattern.

Comment by fidditch | 2009-01-27 06:14:12

Listen to yourself:

no one is sure that was a McCain supporter…When [Obama] does not rebuke these actions, he is saying he advocates it.

It’s okay for McCain not to say anything, but not for Obama? Could your ethics possibly be any more situational?

I criticized Amy’s lack of consistency (an now yours as well). You responded by calling me names. That’s NQ in a nutshell.

SEE MY NOTE TO YOU ABOVE. You’re going to be listening to YOURSELF now. - ADMIN.

 

Comment by fidditch | 2009-01-27 06:19:20


Obama scratching his face w one finger


It’s tiresome to keep calling this out, but NQ is relentless about the lie, and the truth deserves equal play.

This “one finger” canard is just that. Anyone who won’t acknowledge that video from another angle has shown it wasn’t “one finger” is dishonest.

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Comment by truthtelling007 | 2009-01-27 06:35:38

“but NQ is relentless about the lie”

This is a lie, NQ isn’t relentless about anything of the sort. Your monolithic phrasing doesn’t suddenly fuse a bunch of people into one. There are many areas of this site that have disagreements. If you don’t want to be discounted, then don’t swath.

Anyone who swaths a a whole group with an accusation, then participates in the communication too, is dishonest.

It says something about you to fall for the “canard” instead of engaging in meaningful discussion.

 
 

Comment by Magic Puzzle Box | 2009-01-28 12:09:07

I wonder about responsibility, though. Does the community organizer aspect change the whole assumption that one doesn’t have anything to do with what one’s stupid followers do? I’m thinking it does maybe more than usual.

 
 
 

Comment by wodiej | 2009-01-27 05:49:26

Dem’s had an opportunity to “turn the other cheek” after how Bush got into office and what he did and didn’t do when he got there-but they didn’t. What the Dem’s have done make them no better than Bush. Bush and Republicans behaved with arrogance, selfishness and even hate sometimes. I believe Bush and Cheney were involved in illegal situations. The people supporting Obama are now acting the same way. It’s too bad, they could have made a real difference, they blew it. They are no better than Bush and his crew.

No matter what Obama does, it will not bring the country together. He is advocating the hate. Nothing good ever comes of that.

 

Comment by wodiej | 2009-01-27 05:53:19

The Dems had a chance to “turn the other cheek”. Bush and the Republicans engaged in alot of arrogant, even hateful, criminal behavior. Now the Dem’s believe what they are doing is ok because they are “paying back”. They blew it. Too bad…we need leaders who are mature enough to do what is right for the country.

Comment by truthtelling007 | 2009-01-27 06:17:50

I don’t disagree with you at all, but so long as it is aimed at people who are simply seeking “paying back”.

There are people who are not pursuing Bush simply out of paying back, and to ignore principled people is to just throw people into an Obama camp they don’t belong in. (not saying that you, wodiej are doing this, but the author of the article amy is refering to).

Booing doesn’t mean they are Obama supporters. I had friends who went to DC out of a historic witness motivation. They didn’t vote for Obama. They’ll be just as quick to put him in jail for the crimes Bush and Cheney committed, or others. But no doubt if they saw Bush they’d boo.

This is America, where we have the right to display our contempt. Without the right to display contempt, we’d just be a mirror of the England George III wanted us to stay with.

“Turn the other cheek” is an idea exclusive to a particular batch of folks, and in certain times, there is an appropriate time to “turn the other cheek”. But at the same time, apathy towards crimes is much worse than the crime itself sometimes.

Its really sick to see how many people want to simply overlook Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Gonzo crimes out of bullshit image issues, fuzzy fuzzy get along crap. This sort of garbage wouldn’t fly in any other criminal court. I live in the death penalty capital of the united states and trust me, nobody here gets the breaks that are now being pleaded for Bush and Cheney. That’s why there is an equal protection standard.

People need to get over the idea that we shouldn’t prosecute our own leaders when they violate the law. Playing favorites will erode any credibility we have left.

It works like this: The United States signs a treaty, always in its own interests, and the other signatories just do as they please. Then when the US says, “hey you signed the treaty and are obliga..” “GO fuck yourself” is what the other country will say now. And they should.

I know if you sign a contract with my company then change the terms we don’t suddenly find it in our hearts to try it over again. If the word of the United States is to be shit, then our credibility is shit, and the griping about “You better Love your Country” is simply political masturbation.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-01-27 12:42:48

“Booing doesn’t mean they are Obama supporters. I had friends who went to DC out of a historic witness motivation. They didn’t vote for Obama. They’ll be just as quick to put him in jail for the crimes Bush and Cheney committed, or others. But no doubt if they saw Bush they’d boo.

This is America, where we have the right to display our contempt. Without the right to display contempt, we’d just be a mirror of the England George III wanted us to stay with.

“Turn the other cheek” is an idea exclusive to a particular batch of folks, and in certain times, there is an appropriate time to “turn the other cheek”. But at the same time, apathy towards crimes is much worse than the crime itself sometimes.”

But that was not the issue here at all. It was in the midst of a state ceremony. While dissent is an important component of any free society, there is also the concept of acting with dignity and grace. People could refrain from clapping for Bush. They could say, “Lalalalala” the entire time he was talking. But to boo someone in the midst of a solemn ceremony is a bit classless.

Like I said, the issue at hand had nothing to do with war crimes, for which Bush and Cheney should be held accountable. But there is a separate forum and time for that, not the middle of an Inauguration ceremony. It is not a matter of apathy regarding war crimes during that one hour, but demonstrating a bit of self-restraint.

Not sure what you mean abt “turning the other cheek” being an idea “exclusive to one batch of folks,” though.

 
 
 

Comment by fidditch | 2009-01-27 06:00:52

I just scrolled back to the top of this article and noticed that Amy’s myopic spin of the stirring events of inauguration day is published under a banner that asks, “Tired of spin?”

Precious irony.

Even Sherman Frederick — whose rag offers a daily column swill of unsourced, unabashed “gossip” about anyone remotely recognizable who’s visiting Vegas — had the integrity to note that other people in the crowd severely reprimanded the booers.

What does that say about Obama, Amy?

Spin much, do you?

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Comment by Screw-The-DNC | 2009-01-27 10:37:13

Think much, do YOU??

What the hell does it say about Obama that OTHER CROWD MEMBERS were the ones who had to shush the idiots who were booing Bush?? It says NOTHING about Obama and EVERYTHING about those people - they had class and they respect the solemnity of the occasion and the office of POTUS.

Obama has NO CLASS. He has not ever, not once, stood up and denounced the crass behavior of his cult followers during this election cycle. Not to mention the fact that he has engaged in the same type of crass behavior.

And yes, McCain DID stand up to people at his rallies when they were acting inappropriately. Spend a little time reading the archives and you will see that many writers here, including RRRA, commended him for doing so.

 
 

Comment by Woodhull | 2009-01-27 09:36:31

He will do nothing to admonish this behavior because he needs them to be “fired up! ready to roll!” for the next four years in order to steal the next election, too. I don’t have the link but read recently somewhere that there is a proposal to fund 75MM to keep his inner circle on the payroll as gov’t-paid “organizers.” If anyone has that link I’d like to see it again.

 

Comment by Julia | 2009-01-27 11:56:42

“one deep thinker took the opportunity to give the “one-finger salute,” thus saying more about himself than anything else”

Wow, the finger, as Obama himself did. Wonderful!!! He’s teaching very well his minions. The former President has enjoyed the Obama’s treatment but any journalist said a word when Hillary had to suffer this

 

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