Hypocrisy, Thy Name is Daschle [Mon. a.m. Breaking News]
By Uppity Woman on February 2, 2009 at 9:11 AM in Obama Attack Ads, Obama's Cabinet, Tom Daschle
(bumped up from Sunday . for some reason, the phrase, “It’s the cover-up …” keeps running through my mind, especially since Daschle knew about these tax problems clear back in June but failed to disclose them. NEW: Musings on Daschle’s chances for confirmation, by David “Diapers” Vitter and Sunday’s Fox news panel, from NoQuarterUSA’s YouTube Channel thanks to Truthtelling007. - Susan)
Breaking News! (6:10 a.m., 02/02/09): “Daschle ‘embarrassed’ over tax issues” (That makes it all better, right? Nothing to see here anymore, so let’s just move along now.)
[NOTE FROM LARRY JOHNSON (Feb. 1, 2009) -- Right on, Uppity. Lady, you read my mind. Rather than write a separate article I wanted to weigh in at the start. We cannot take Barack Obama seriously as a "candidate of change" when he winks and nods at the bullshit perpetuated by Washington insiders like Tom Daschle. Daschle may not have been a formally registered lobbyist, BUT BY GOD HE WAS A LOBBYIST! And a wealthy one at that. If it walks and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck. He became a millionaire peddling his previous status as the majority leader of the Senate to folks in the health care industry.
Are we to believe that Tom Daschle is a moron? That he does not understand that when someone gives you a limo and a driver worth a $250,000 that it is income? That when someone gives you more than $80,000 in a year it is income you must report on your taxes? Yet he forgot? Sure Barack, you want change. Yet you are enabling the very thing people wanted to get rid of. And just like George Bush, your loyal followers don't give a shit and will excuse the inexcusable. If you were serious about fixing Washington you would pull Dashcle's nomination. It is now clear you are not serious. Just another politician playing the Washington game.]
Besides making a killing on ethanol and increasing world starvation, Tom Daschle is just one more tax thief. He’s perfect for the job!
“Yesterday I cheated this much!”
Taxes for thee, not me.
While more people in the world reach starvation levels due to a shortage of corn and the tripling of the cost of other grains, Corn King Tom Daschle has been ironically tapped to be the Secretary of “Health and Human Services”.
If that isn’t ironic unto itself, he is another thief who scurried to pay back taxes after a nomination tap. This is the same thief who, when he was in office, called corporations Benedict Arnold for not paying taxes.
The Senate Finance committee will meet Monday to review the tax records of former Sen. Tom Daschle, President Obama’s nominee for secretary of health and human services.
Oh make me laugh will you? We all know the worth of your Kabuki “reviews”.
You guys would confirm Dracula if Obama decided he wanted to put him in charge of the blood bank.
Why don’t you thieves just cut the crap and do a blanket approval of everybody so we don’t have to listen to your lying BS on TV for a week? That way, Tony Rezko could be put in charge of HUD from his jail cell.
You all make me sick. You have no ethics, no competence, no loyalty to America and no conscience. And you’re malicous in abuse of your power. You all belong in jail with room mates named Bubba.
According to a committee memo obtained Friday by CNN, the group’s concerns include the use of a limousine and driver that Daschle didn’t disclose on his income taxes and nonpayment of taxes on more than $80,000 he earned in consulting fees after leaving the senate.
Daschle also apparently once filed a tax form listing charitable donations to organizations that did not qualify for a deduction, according to the memo.
…snip…
Daschle, 61, of South Dakota, served in the Senate from 1987 to 2005 and served as Democratic leader from 1995 until after he was defeated in a re-election bid in 2004.
I always said that the people didn’t UnElect Tom Daschle for nothing. Now he’s going to be put in charge of that big huge black money hole known as Health Care. These cheaters and thieves always prefer appointments to slots where there are the best opportunities to stuff untraceable money in their pockets.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said that Daschle brought the issues to the committee’s attention himself and that Obama is “confident” he will be confirmed.
So am I. Now why is that?
More Dick Cheney replacement$. Meet the new majority. Same as the old majority.
America, you are so pwned.
**Update: Total back taxes suddenly paid: $128,203.
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Just the ethanol scam alone should be enough to disqualify Daschle from getting anywhere close to the Federal government.
What burns me up most about those ethanol subsidies is that they were told that making ethanol used more energy than it produced. How could anyone think that was a real solution? Add that to the disruption in the grain markets and you have insanity.(And the usual crowd making money).
See, now we know why Durbin, Daschle, and Kennedy were determined to keep Hillary out of the WH. Just another pack of political thieves. I will vote for whoever runs against Dick Durbin in IL.
Liberals love tax increases because they know how to evade them.
If the the brightest among us can’t figure out how to file their taxes, how they expect the least educated among us to do it?
You don’t have to be bright to be corrupt.
KmX, let’s not forget the republicans and their off shore accounts in the Caymen Islands. The Democrats may know how to evade taxes (we just forget to pay them, WHOOPSIE), but republicans are masters at actually creating tax loop holes. I concede to your greatness.
So … the change is just lowering standards to meet those of the administration you berated for the past eight years? I see ….
Nah, we just lack the imagination of the Cheney and Bush crowd. They were much smarter than Daschle. Instead of outright breaking the law, they changed it to benefit them. We’re a little slow on the uptake. I’m being snarky, beebop. But it does seem that way. Besides since when do true democrats take money from the likes of drug companies and insurance companies? They are the enemy. But hey, Obama took money from Exelon, and he’s got a defense industry lobbyist as 2nd in command at the DoD. These guys are not true democrats. And in no way are they liberals.
BTW, drug companies are not the enemy. Would you like them to go by the wayside, or will you be one to say “No thanks” when you’re ill and need the pharmaceuticals that come from the brains and hard work housed in these big bad companies?
I see an alarming trend toward this whole “business bad”, “government supported good” thing. Business is the lifeblood of our economy and provides jobs and products that keep people warm, fed, and clothed. Businesses should not have to be warm and fuzzy. Their function is to provide a needed good or service. As a result of providing a needed good or service, they provide jobs for those who choose to work. People who work, get to eat and buy the things that they need or want. It’s kind of a quid pro quo thing. Businesses are meant to make profits. Profits allow them to grow and improve products, hire more people, ….you get the picture.
Any business that you think is unethical, you may certainly forgo their product, but last time I checked, most of us rely on this whole business thingy to survive. I, for one, am not a hunter-gatherer, so I’m all for business.
Drug Companies do not compete in a free market though, they are protected by Coporate Socialism that results in US and African “consumers” paying far more than Europe.
It is a myth to say that without overly tough intellectual copyright there would be no R&D. Most medical advances have not arisen as a result of profit, but by accident.
What are you talking about? The Kennedy’s and all of Hollywood have their accounts offshore. Since when did offshore equal Republican? That whole “rich” Republican thing goes right out the door when you look at who’s a Democrat today. It’s the ultra rich preying on the ultra poor. Sheesh!
Hell, they all have off-shore bank accounts. Our new bosses are just as corrupt as our old bosses. The only real difference is that the old ones didn’t try to lie as much about what they were doing and the new ones do.
Either way, they get richer while the middle class disappears.
When one’s ox is being gored, does it really matter who is wielding the knife?
What was that Michelle said about not being able to run your own house?
And the conservatives on Wall Street don’t know how to evade taxes? I don’t want to point any fingers, unless it’s the middle one, and here is where I want to direct it:
At the Democrats
At the Republicans
At all 3 branches of government
At the electorate, all 69 whoop-de-doo million of them
At Bush, at Obama
We have a big political center that is very disgusted and ready to move. And not a leader in sight.
Party Unity My Ass
Uh-oh, you said the 69 million thing. UKeleleforDims will be back blathering.
You’re right Ferd. That’s a chance I’ll have to take.
And oh yeah, I forgot to send out a special one-fingered salute to Wall Street and Big Business. Now who the hell is playing in the Glorious F-ing Super Bowl today?
And while I’m dedicating the middle-finger trophy, I would be remiss if I didn’t mention the MSM, with a special fond wave out to MSNBC. Hiya Keith! (wave) Hiya Tweety! (wave) Hiya Shuster! (wave)
Enjoy your football, boys!
Speaking of which, why the H did they put Olberman hosting a SuperBowl pre game show. Do they not understand we all(well most of us) think he’s the next coming of the pet rock? I can’t believe he’s not been fired by now. That’d make what, the 3rd or 4th time? He is just terrible on any broadcast on any subject.
It has everything to do with the fact he came from sports radio…and since its a mostly boys network at this point…do the math. LOL
The only thing I find useful in his show, is that Countdown and Maddow are the only ones still keeping up with the crimes of the Bush and Cheney admins.
What I abhor most about them is they don’t seem capable of doing the same thing about Obama.
CNN does not do a very good job at covering it, but has gotten better, and forget FoxNews doing anything close to accountability.
However, FoxNews and CNN are more likely to cover Obama’s errors than MSNBC, so a bit of counterbalance is necessary.
As a news junkie, I’m having to surf too many channels at once to get the seeds of real stories, the rest I have to dig and get myself.
The day these guys stop opinion making shows might be quite an improvement.
(note: at least Glenn Beck was finally shuttled over to Fox where his punkass belongs)
Actually I saw a guy from PolitiFact on MSNBC this morning who had an “Obameter” (like odometer, but with a b) that tracks Obama’s campaign promises.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
I couldn’t beleive they had that much on there!
UKeleleforDims is out nursing a bad case of carpal tunnel. All that trolling does have a price it seems.
Gee I hope so HC!
frankly ferd, i wonder why someone from another country who evidences hatred for the majority of the residents and has made statements not wishing us well is still on here blathering.
Kmx: Liberals didn’t get us in the mess we’re in today, it was Conservatives. So how about ease up on the stupid comments about Liberals.
Conservatives love to cut taxes FOR THE MILLIONAIRES.
And I do beleive we now have more millionaire lawmakers that are Dems as I just heard reported the other day.
And I say that as one of the people in the middle waiting for a leader.
Conservatives love to cut taxes, period. To say that the “rich” don’t pay taxes because of George Bush is laughable. I am in the category of probably what you would call “the rich” (although nowhere near the likes of the Hollywood Dems, or senators), and I can tell you that last year my husband and I paid more taxes than many will pay in a lifetime, especially since many don’t ever pay at all. Because my husband’s commissions don’t ever get taxed at the right rate, and because most of the deductions that many take for granted are phased out for us, we had to write a check for $50000 at the end of the year to supplement the 28% that he paid all year. Now, you may say that we are lucky to have the money to pay it, which we are, but when folks say that the “rich” don’t pay their share, I could show you a tax return or two that would prove that we do pay and much. Now as the for the really rich, who have ways of avoiding taxes, like offshore accounts and such, we don’t have access to anything like that.
We are also the least likely family to need to take advantage of government largess. We don’t carry credit card debt, don’t take out loans for cars, put half down on our house and have never been late on a payment. We don’t own boats or planes, or take our kids on expensive vactions. We donate to charity, take care of our own children, and get thanked by being demonized for not doing enough. I’m probably a dope for doing this, but usually when I donate things, I don’t deduct them from the taxes, because that’s not why I give, as opposed to folks like Tim Geithner, who would deduct his dental floss if he thought he could get away with it (and he probably could).
I was fortunate enough to have parents who helped me pay for my college education, but I worked my butt off to get a degree in computer engineering. My husband came from a family where education wasn’t a priority, so when I married him, he was really only able to get jobs where he didn’t make much and got treated like crap. Rather than complain about it, we read the writing on the wall and he went back to school to earn a degree (which we had to sacrifice like heck to pay for without loans or grants from the government), which enabled him to get better jobs. He works hard, has to pay extra for his health insurance, doesn’t have a pension, and doesn’t have a guarantee that he will keep his job no matter how he performs like union workers do. And yet, all we hear is how unfair it is from the other side. I’m kind of tired of it. It’s a disinformation campaign that has taken on the aura of fact, and it’s frustrating to listen to folks talk about it the way that they do.
Okay, ahem. I’m stepping off of my soapbox now, but really, you’ve got to consider that there is an agenda out there that is demonizing business and those who have been successful, and we shouldn’t be looking to tear everything down so that we all stand at the same, low level. We should be figuring out how to bring more of us up.
Well, Daschle’s only concern was that many of the working poor would not be able to afford gasoline to get to the grocery store to buy corn, so he supported ethanol from corn. He’s a real genius, that dufus.
Sarcasm off.
Right on Uppity! Daschle may not be a registered lobbyist himself but his wife is… and has been and while Daschle was in the Senate they delicately “stuck” to the letter of the law since his wife only lobbied the House
Didn’t Obama promise that his administration would be the most ethical in history ?…
Hmmm
Maybe his Adm. would be just the one that makes The Most Grandiose Statements …
Ethical standards of conduct, like guns and bibles, are only for bitter white folk to cling to.
The problem is there are very very very few ethical people in DC.
Which is why in 2010, we should have all new elections for everyone. The only way we can be sure.
Anything Obama says means just the opposite from what I can see. I guess you would refer to that as Obama speak???
Personally I called it lying and think by the end of this administraton you will find Obama’s name under Liar in the dictionary when it’s updated.
I know they all lie but no one else has gotten away with more of it than Obama.
One of the worst things I learned this past year was that I have no control of my government. Amy Klobuchar and others put myself, my children and grandchildren into debt in the 700 billion bail out, which was really a 700 billion bucket of slop to dump into the trof for the Bush Cheney pigs. Now they are being wheeled away or in some cases fork lifted away.
Now a new bucket needs filling for the new pigs. An “econommic stimulus package” is the new cover story. So now my grand children’s children, grand children and great grandchildren will be enslaved.
What we are creating here is a world wide permanent class of wealth holders. I doubt that beyond this point redistribution of wealth will ever be possible again.
This morning hearing about Tom Daschel was the last straw.
I am retired so I can’t do it, but I urge everyone who reads this to go into work on Monday and increase the number of dependents to 20 (I think that is the legal limit).
Give your selves a raise.
Or … they can have a litter of octuplets and not only have the deductions, but feed from the federal and state troughs …. great!
Indeed. Hell, why stop with 8? Let’s set another record!
She’s still got reproductive years ahead of her. Only got 14? Is there a Guinness Record to be broken? I’m sure there’s some quack doc and a sperm donor some where to fulfill all of her needs to have another group of babies she’s unable to provide for.
Beebop, that woman makes me so mad. My twins were born at 28 weeks, and they suffered so much. I would have given anything to stop the blood draws, the lung treatments, the surgeries. One twin has some pretty severe health conditions just because he was hatched on the wrong side of the womb. His brother got the lion’s share of the nutrients and was much bigger and stronger. And I did everything I could to ensure they were born healthy. We wound up in debt up to our eyeballs because of the health costs. My husband even re-upped for the military just to ensure we didn’t go on the government dole. This woman knew the risks to the babies and still, after already squeezing out 6 babies, decided to have eight more. How many of these babies will suffer what my little guys went through and wind up with life long health concerns and other problems. We barely have the funding to help the special needs children already here and this wench cranks out eight more innocent children that may wind up being cared for by the state. My greatest fear is that my special guy will wind up in some state run home after we die or become a financial burden to his brothers. Ugh. You struck a nerve. The medical costs for these guys will easily be in the millions before the first year is up. And you and I are picking up the tab for a choice she made. If she didn’t already have six, maybe I could understand but…
The doctor who implanted all eight should have to pay the bills. He did what he did in defiance of any acceptable practice in reproductive health. I hope that they find him and nail his ass to the wall.
I hope for your sake that we as a nation start to wise up about health care for all Americans. And my heart goes out to you. My sister’s best friend has a set of twins where both boys are autistic. They work night and day to stimulate and educate those darling boys.
Thanks Beebop. Both twins autisitc? Oh gawd. Poor things. Only one of mine is autism spectrum. High functioning but it hurts like hell to see him try and interact with his brother and his friends. He knows he’s different and gets frustrated and his twin tries so hard to take care of him. They have a very strong bond.
I’m so sorry that your babies had to suffer so much Strawberry. It must have been shear torture for you. The woman that just gave birth to the octuplets is obviously mentally ill. Nobody would do something like that otherwise. The clinic that did the in-vitro should be shut down. California is already in such dire staights financially, it is a travesty that the tax payers will have to foot the bill for the babies’ medical care, and it will be an astronomical amount.
Thanks NC. But the whole ordeal has made them tough as nails. And they are both fighters, they fight everything and everybody. It’s a knock down drag out brawl to get them to brush their teeth. I’m just stunned that there are no regulations in regards to in vitro. Gawd, I really hate having to pass more laws but when stuff like this happens, what else can be done? This is actually my only concern with stem cell research…there will be some boneheads that pull some unethical crap in order to make a profit. Beebop is right, the doctors need to be held accountable as well.
The AMA ethics board should police their own. If the woman turned around and sued them, they might have second thoughts about something so irresponsible.
According to a fertility doc on Fox this am, there are standards that should have been followed to protect the innocents that are born from in-vitro. No more than 2 should have been implanted due to risk for the babies. He was incensed at whoever this doc was that did this and said it never, never should have happened. Now the mother is going on Oprah etc. to try and get dollars to pay for her lunacy. The shameful, awful thing is that those little ones will pay the price. I am convinced that many people are now truly without consciences and have no other agenda than greed and self serving. It is so prevalent in every part of our society from poor to wealthy. So very, very sad.
I read one of her six children is autistic. That child needs extra care right there.
Also one of her friends reported that when she asked the mother how she was going to handle this, she said she is being paid. However she didn’t ask her to explain. Very suspicious.
She has a bachelor’s degree in child development (!) and has been working on a masters in counseling (Gawd help us). I want to know who paid for her fertility treatment, and when the clinic will be brought up on charges for allowing a woman in her situation to have * embryos implanted.
The ex-husband is supposedly NOT the father of any of these children. Looks like he dodged a bullet. I love kids, but this woman is certifiable.
That sounds like a damn train wreck. Wow.
I’m just curious…At what point do the Kool Aid drinkers realize they’ve been had?
That’s the problem–they don’t. One man’s bushbot is another’s oblahblahbot.
When the non-Kool-Aide drinking center decides enough is enough, maybe something good will be accomplished. I’m not holding my breath.
The unwashed herd in this country keeps voting against their own self-interest over meaningless things such as “gay marriage” or “abortion rights”, neither of which will make one healthy, wealthy, or wise. They are merely wedge issues which drive the electorate to vote in very stupid ways. The last three election cycles have borne this out. There are other wedge issues, of course, which are too numerous to recount.
We have met the enemy and he is us.
The importance of the past election was in the color coding. Voting for issues was never the issue.
That, too. A very nice description, btw.
Oblahblahbot? I can’t even spell it let alone say it. Try saying that five times quick…I damn near wrapped my tongue around my tonsils.
LMAO. I tried it–it can’t be done.
I had higher, more positive hopes. That the revulsion over Obama, and how the country has been conned and humiliated worldwide, would somehow cause people to wake up and reevaluate voting for self interest over the good of the country. This last one was so severe as far as self interest…People voted for Obama because of abortions, gay rights, race, etc. ignoring that he is just plain dangerous to us. None of those voters are going to get what they want. My hope was that they would realize it, band together, get rid of this boil on our butts, Obama, and start rethinking their votes. One can only hope that there IS a collective brain in this sad country that will eventually prevail.
What do think of Michael Steele’s saying that if he can get agreement on 8 of 10 major issues (e.g., less spending and more border security) with those inside and outside of the Republican party, he’ll be pleased (abortion and gay marriage being the 2 issues on which there may never be agreement—ergo, let those issues be decided at the state level)? Personally, I could live with that (and I’m very Conservative.
Sorry for the l-o-n-g question…
Remarkably, this country is divided almost down the middle on most controversial issues. William F. Buckly was the father of modern conservatism, yet he was for drug legalization, ( a Libertarian position). Many liberals were gung ho for the war on terror and the invasion of Iraq. All people who call themselves either liberal or conservative are not totally in lockstep with every position adopted by either side, we’re all as unique as our finger prints. There are “Log Cabin” republicans and hawkish democrats, Michael Steele obviously understands this. Obama does too.
The difference between Steele and Obama is that Steele believes in his heart what he advocates, Obama adopts any position (sometimes two opposing positions at the same time) based upon the amount of support and adulation it earns him, not based upon his own incomprehensibly nebulous convictions. Hopefully, it won’t take too long for his supporters to understand that Obama doesn’t give a rat’s ass about them or this country, he’s far too obsessed and busy with his own self deification.
This is way after my original post and your response, so maybe no one will read this, but…
I became familiar with Michael Steele just last year when he substituted for Bill Bennett on AM radio.
What input can you Marylanders offer?
I do not see the Obama mania dying down at all. BO will continue getting a pass by the newsmedia on our disasterous economic problems. They never stop reminding us that these problems have been courageously taken on by this saint of a man.
He is being given high praise for every move he makes, for his *brilliance*, and even his not answering questions is being tauted as “cool”. MSNBC’s Nora O’Donald blew out one of the republican house members she was interviewing last week, whining as to WHY he wasn’t supporting *THE PRESIDENT’S* stimulus package when he was trying so hard to *BRING US ALLLLL TOGETHER*. What a loon!
A great number of them are dependents, still hitting their parents up for supplementary income so that they might appear ‘upscale’. When this all dries up and there are no more ways to get others to help you buy bright shiny objects and you are on your own, then they will realize they’ve been had.
Come on. We all know plenty of them. Many of them are still home at age 30. They don’t pay for heat, property taxes, food, car insurance or much of anything else but the new clothes and ipods. Their parents even pay for their cell phones. Even if they move out.
So the fun of reality is coming soon. Somebody is going to have to pay for this party.
I can’t wait for the reality check….
UW…Yes you are probably right. I don’t wish hard times on anyone and I pray for our country’s survival. But I don’t think it’s such a bad thing for people to get a swift kick in the pants and reality check because the voters really screwed themselves, and US, this time. The party’s already started to wind down. Between the gays, blacks and women who are raising their eyebrows and going WTH already…it’s not going to take long. I just pray that this Pork Bill doesn’t pass and sink us further. I hate the MSM. Today our paper has a big front page BS article about how great it is. It just never ends, the lies and bias.
Ah, that Daschle is small potatoes when it comes to hypocrisy. The ultimate in hypocrisy is Alabama former Gov Guy Hunt (who died a couple of days ago).
After being found guilty of stealing $200,000 from an inaugural fund (and using it for personal gain–this guy, by the way, was a MINISTER) in 1994, he was ordered to pay $12,000 in restitution. The man pled that he was financially unable to pay more than $100 a month (meaning he’d have it paid off in 10 years), and the court actually allowed it. Well, by early 1998, after having paid off about $3000, he decided he needed to run for Governor again, but one little problem stood in his way: He was still a felon, and that’s the one thing that precludes one from running for political office in the state. Political junkies in the state believed he could run, provided he received a full pardon in time. The biggest obstacle to the pardon, however, was the rest of the fine. Hunt, who’d claimed to be financially unable to pay off his fine for years, SUDDENLY paid off the remaining fine and went before the State Parole Board which declared him “innocent” and this allowed him to file qualifying papers to run in the 1998 GOP primary. (As I recall it, he managed to convince some friends to make him a loan to pay off the fine, and then got them to forgive the loan so he wouldn’t have to pay them back.)
In the end, Hunt lost the primary and his attempt to make a “political comeback” failed. (Some think it was his overt scheming that hurt the GOP’s chances that November.)
A religious leader is a thief? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!
Your story helps restore some of my lost faith in the wisdom of the American voting public. Maybe by 2012 our citizens will once again focus on issues and not image, ignoring or rebuking the stupidity of political ads such as, “I’ve got a crush on Obama…”
I’m beginning to hear the same excuse as with Geithner, the health system is in a desperate state and this is the only human on the planet that can save the day. Paying ones taxes, hey everyone jay-walks the street every now and then! Does my memory serve me right isn’t this the former Sen. Majority leader who could not win reelection in his own state 4 yrs ago?
When did you EVER hear Daschle’s name associated with health care till now? The only part he played was he lobbyed for his own gain.
Daschle is a fish on a bicycle when it comes to this issue. Unless he’s there to help out the very people who are ripping America off, he has no business being there.
I don’t think Obama ever supported universal health care(definitely not like Hillary’s plan). He supported(s) health care for the poor and children but to be generated through the same insurance companies that have controlled things all along. Others not in the above categories would be required to buy their own insurance.
How much money came into BO’s campaign from insurance companies?
Uppity,
I have said exactly the same thing everytime his name comes up. He has no business even being offered this position.
He will not benefit “we the people” and his ties should disqualify him entirely .
But from the minute I heard he endorsed and worked for the Obama campaign I was not in the least bit surprised. He fits right in with that bunch imo.
Agreed! Daschle is a curious choice and a bad one, at that, but he is not alone. He joins Geithner as another criminal rewarded by Obama with a position of power.
That actually sums it up better than I can.
Thanks, Uppity.
Well your comment goes to show how much you know about Tom Dashle! He has been spouting about health care for years….even wrote a book on it. But of course to all you Obama and Ted Kennedy haters, no one, but no one, ever said a word about health care except for Hillary.
Either you’ve been out in the sun too long or have been in Mother’s basement too long. I don’t know which and frankly don’t care.
If he was so big on health care, why didn’t he do something about it when he could have made a difference, i.e., when he was Senate majority leader?
Thanks for playing.
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The only health care Ted Kennedy cares about is his own.
Maybe they’re talking about health care plans that MIGHT WORK, not just plans that would create bigger bureaucracy that insiders could use to garner more lobbying money.
Most of Hillary’s work, except for the work she did right after Bill’s election and which the Congress shot down, has furthered some necessary changes.
Great photo explanation U W
wOOHOOO!!!Strait up UW, great piece.
and, RIGHT ON Larry.
This is all really so laughable. The media keeps covering for him as long as they think they’ll make extra bucks off his a88 and the BO promoters won’t admit any wrong doing because then he loses credibility. They want any blog to be a cheerleader for him, which mean he will be a disaster, because his supporters are not only not expecting change now, they are covering for his wrong doing. wooohooo!
So, it’s left to us real world patriots that call it as it is.
Dascle makes a Bakers Dozen of Lobbyists and he’s a crook on top of it. WOW!
But we all know Obama had no desire to FIX things, he wanted to get in on the action. And he proves that every day more.
The slimy liar was in the Senate for eighteen years, when he made no effort at all to do anything to improve health care in the USA. Now he’s a truly bought and paid for “lobbyist” for health care issues, there’s no chance there will be any significant improvement at all. Bambi shouldn’t take his eyes off health care, not that they were ever really on heatlth care. The more people are laid off, the greater the number gets of people who have no health care.
Did he support Hillary’s attempts to change health care? I don’t remember, but I’ll guess he did not. I’ve never liked him. I thought he was a really awful Leader in the Senate. I did notice that he became Democratic Leader in the Senate after being a Senator for only eight years. Who else do we know who was a Senator for eight years and yet hadn’t been there long enough, didn’t have enough seniority, to be Democratic Leader? Why, our very own Hillary.
Touchdown Uppity and Larry!
Now pile on the louts!
So am I. Now why is that?
Thank you for this, UW. It’s not just me. If we had a press and the American people had a clue, this alone would sink the scam.
For what it’s worth, the unreported consulting income is for $83,333 FOR ONE MONTH. He was making a million a year “consulting” (aka influence peddling) for Intermedia, the same “folks” who paid for his car and driver. But he’s not a lobbyist! He only accepted over $390K from groups like America Health Insurance Plans so he could do the good work of scrounging up a few more 10s of billions to subsidize the purchase of their plans.
I hope we won’t “forget” this after the Super Bowl. This Daschle appointment stinks to the highest heavens of Kabuki Theater. And Obama, we already know you by the fruits of the change you’re bringing.
The American people have lost their say. It no longer matters how we “feel” about these criminals being hired by Obama.
It doesnt matter how we feel about a spending bill that Obama calls a stimulus.
We matter not.
We can keep our G.D. opinions to ourselves and let the “experts” run things.
How are they doing?
Well if every American wanted to be run over by a bus, there feeling pretty good right now.
Obama’s list of pay to play politicians can be spotted everywhere you look, his list of those he can put into positions that would allow them to rob the American people, never ceases to amaze me. Yet nobody really calls him on it.
They pay their back taxes and expect that everything should go their way.
Let’s see, the only damn reason you paid your taxes was because the American people would have found out about it.
Why does Obama want to surround himself with these criminals? Because we surround ourselves with like-minded people, remember Resko, Wright, Ayers? Now it’s Rahm, Daschle, Favreau.
Obama is not my president, you can claim him, but I for one know in my heart this man is ineligible to be my president and its high time our courts stood up for our Constitution!!!
We have been beaten down and battered by this administration, and its barely two weeks old. Obama thinks if he pushes hard enough those republicans will even do his bidding. He is wrong.
I never thought I would see the day when the republicans are standing up for what is right for the American people, but I am happy to see it. Not one vote for the spending bill.
Because of those who refused to see what the rest of us saw in Obama, a criminal of epic proportions, we are stuck with this con-artist.
Unless our courts do the right thing by the American people and uphold our Constitution, we are stuck with a man who is not eligible to be our president.
How is it that we must suffer because of the actions of those worshipers? How do they feel now? Do you think they could actually explain all these appointments away?
I am so sick and tired of watching as one by one these tax cheats are rewarded for their illegal behavior.
If any one of us regular Americans would have cheated on our taxes, we would be drawn and quartered, but if a high ranking government official cheats on his taxes, it was an oversight? It has been corrected and now here’s a high paying job for you to boot!
F**K Obama and his cronies, didnt think he could have cronies so fast did you? They are each and every criminal he has put into office, knowing full well their pasts, some spent with Obama in Chicago, so stupid is as stupid does.
Sheesh…how many cups of coffee did you have this morning???
“Obama is not my president, you can claim him, but I for one know in my heart this man is ineligible to be my president and its high time our courts stood up for our Constitution!!!” This is where the anti-Obama forces lose me (and a lot of others) who might otherwise have an open mind to your grievences.
As stated below, I am an Obama supporter. But I am not one of those “kool-aid drinkers” who believes him to be the Messiah. He is a smart, charismatic, tough, Chicago pol who caught a wave of righteous discontent and rode it into the WH.
However, enough with the fake COLB allusions, linking articles from Larry Sinclair’s website as “proof” of anything, or mystical tapes about MO railing on white people.
These are serious times people! In any effective democracy, the President needs a serious-minded opposition. Anti-Obama forces shoot themselves in the foot when they continue to push this garbage. It makes you look like irrational loonies (seriously). Read the above rant and ask yourself what reasonable person could rationalize it as a cogent argument and support your cause having read it.
For the most part, the writers on this website seem to have moved beyond this tripe. Hopefully the commenters will do the same in the near future.
If by “moving” beyond you mean we’ll forget the caucus cheating and buying the presidency, I would recommend that you not hold your breath any time soon. After eight years of a falsely installed regime that had an “R” after his name, I take no pleasure and see no legitimacy from an equally illegitimate “D.”
Caucus cheating? LOL! Another 1/2 baked PUMA conspiracy.
By caucus cheating, do you mean Obama organizing effectively in the caucus states to offset Hillary’s built-in advantage in the big states?
That’s not called cheating…that’s called strategy.
uh … did you attend any of those caucuses first hand? I can tell you that I know people who did and if you can with a straight face call verbal and physical intimidation of one candidate’s delegates a “strategy” with admiration, then you might be a Republican in the making. Karl Rove has a place for you in the future of the Party!
And out of curiousity, what is wrong with an advantage in the more populous states? More people equals more voters …. duh.
uh … did you attend any of those caucuses first hand?
Yup. I live in a fairly conservative suburb of Minneapolis and I can tell you with first-hand knowledge there was NO INTIMIDATION of any kind. Hillary supporters showed up (as did Obama supporters), everyone had their say. It was very respectful, and when we cast our votes, Obama had about a 4-to-1 advantage in my precinct. Sorry…that’s the way it was.
Personally, I prefer the primary system to the caucus system. I think it’s more democratic. But Obama did not invent the caucus system to win. It’s 100 years old and has always been accepted as a fair system. Until PUMA had their say…then all of a sudden Obama “thugs” stole it from them. LOL.
He played by the rules.
My Ex husband was “selected” to be a delegate in Dallas, TX. He is a huge man — 6′2″ and almost 300#. He is tough to push around and almost impossible to rile. He nearly had a heart attack that night. So don’t judge it from your experience in white bread Minnesota ….
So don’t judge it from your experience in white bread Minnesota
Again this is the attitude many Hill supporters carried around throughout the primary season. Screw Iowa; SC was won only because of the black vote; we won’t win Idaho or Utah anyway in the general; “white bread” Minnesota doesn’t matter.
That attitude alienated a lot of people, as if our voices didn’t matter. As it turned out our voices did matter because you lost.
No actually Hillary won the popular vote. You can even wiki up the results. But Barky got the nod. But hey, I’m really enjoying watching Barky implode. Tom Daschle, that geither guy, the Raytheon lobbyist for Dep. Sec. of Defense, the 11 other lobbyists in his administration after he said “No Lobbyists in the White House!” Hopey/Changey and hiring all those Clintonites…I’m having a good time. He’s a joke, a very tragic one.
Don’t you love how the trolls always start out so positive and then when the cold hard facts start to inconveniently pile up they get bitchy and hateful? And pissy? My God! You’d think they actually LOST ….. Why do they even bother leaving the friendly environs of HuffyPoop and DunceKap? Do they think we’ve changed our minds? hahahahaha
Beebop:
And how quickly they leave when faced with the facts or the fallicy of their argument:-)
Stop the lovefest!
I’m waiting for JS to say something along the lines of ‘there is just no having a civilized discussion with you crazy haters, I’m leaving!’
Because they wouldn’t get their $0.05 per post and would thence lose any chance to get their Thunderbird without having to stand out in the cold, panhandling. They have their priorities, you know.
Oh, you mean the pre-formulated exit strategy, which is part of the bot training manual and is always invoked after they have their arse handed to them on a platter.
Since Johnee has obviously left the building without saying the appopriate line, I guess I’ll do it for him.
“You should just get over it and stop hating on That One. He’s the President now and he needs everybody’s support in these rough times to lead us out of this economic crisis. If you don’t support him, you’re not doing your patriotic duty. I am embarrassed by your behavior. I’ll leave now.”
Snark!
Stop the lovefest!
Isn’t it amazing how well we learned to run people off at those liberal outlets … Huffypoop and DunceKap? I had to wait to be called a c*nt by a bunch of basement pasty 16 year old “progressives.”
Oh and this means that Obama will do a lousy job???? he hired half the CLinton team so does that mean Clinton had crooks on the payroll???
If Daschle is a crook he’ll have to give up his nomination. and Obama will get on with the job. give him a little credit why don’t you? less than 2 weeks on the job, in the biggest mess possible to inherit and in your eyes he has failed. what do you get out of being so bitter and ugly about the whole thing?
Naomi, people are dying in Kentucky, right now Obama is sitting on his ass eating imported japanese beef watching the super bowl. Just like Bush and Katrina. 22 dead in Kentucky. On HIS watch, not Bush’s. Where’s your holier than thou outrage now?
So just because one district (which you admit was a conservative one, which means Obama wouldn’t waste resources in a district he knew he couldn’t win, like pulling his name off the ballot in certain states he knew he’d lose.) proves there was NO caucus rigging at all? Can you actually say that with a straight face?
Correct. I can only speak to my experience. Giving credence to unsubstantiated internet rumors about “caucus fraud” is irresponsible, no?
Look there are thousands of districts throughout the country. Were there a few irregularities here and there? Probably. Was it so wide spread it directly affected the results of the election? Absolutely not.
Sorry. Not taking your word for it. And. There’s that little issue of her kicking his ass all the way to the end. That was something. hmmmm. What do you call that? Organization?!
Out of curiosity, since you said you support Obama, how do you feel about Obama’s decision to keep rendering terrorism suspects?
That means he will keep torturing those we might otherwise presume innocent, adopting Cheney’s methods in the WOT.
Darn Belle don’t ask Johnee to think beyond his love emotions and what he knows to be the truth from his sheltered state of MN:-)
Stop the lovefest!
Um, no there have been numerous accounts. There are a lot of Washington State delegates here at NQ. I know many by moniker. My husband and I have first hand accounts of what went on and the other 10-20 here also have very simular stories. Statisically that is quite amazing to have so many find their way to one little blog. We were quite shocked when we started sharing stories. And given many Hillary supporters don’t even use the net compared to Obots…well, again, your argument doesn’t hold water.
Johnny…there’s no arguing with someone who knows nothing. In Texas alone there were 2000 complaints. And a ton of those became police reports as well. Every single caucus state, every single one, reported rampant caucus fraud. It wasn’t just a few people acting badly. It was a long planned, well thought out, incredibly organized plot to take advantage of the weakness in the caucus system. Sorry you get paid to lie about it. But you just can’t pull that stuff around here. We all know what happened and won’t forget it.
Here you go,Johnny, maybe this will be of some help to you. What the others have said is true. The following is from just one state, NV:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/23/nv.state.letter.1.23.08.pdf
Composition/division fallacy. Your experience cannot be said to apply to the whole as you are attempting.
Try againDry up.Thanks Ferd. I loved Critical Thinking class, (hey, who knew you could get college credit for arguing) but I never bothered to actually learn the names of each fallacy. I’m a generation Xer. Do just enough to appear clever.
Aregato gozaimashita. I’d say you’re pretty damn clever, too.
maybe learn to use proper romaji if you are going to throw around your japanese speaking!
That was what I was taught when taking Shudokan. Besides, I wasn’t reponding to you, not throwing it around. I happen to know that Strawberry is into the martial arts and said it as a reference to such. You should not post where your understanding is incomplete with respect to context.
Um, first off he didn’t SAY anything and second, perhaps you should learn to use the shift key before you correct someone else’s post.
That’s funny - my niece caucused in Nevada and said it was the HILLARY supporters who bullied and closed the door before everyone got in. Guess its who you want to believe, huh? Pretty lame that Hillary fans can ONLY talk about cheating in the caucuses as the reason Obama got the nomination - even if it were true (which it was not)Hillary still could have won the nomination had she ran a good and smart campaign - she didn’t.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah …. happy?
Well then you might want to check this link, too. According to the letter, the Obama people only had a few minor procedural problems to note. Not so with the Hillary people. From the state of NV:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/23/nv.state.letter.1.23.08.pdf
I’ve read about what went on at some of the caucuses. I would call it bullying and intimidation. I’m sure it was “strategy,” but it was also ugly and unethical.
It was the Black Panthers and the Black Muslims. If you don’t find those dudes intimidating, you must be a crook.
Now that’s funny!
No, JS, bussing in kids to vote in caucuses where they don’t live is not strategy…but given who you supported I’m not surprised you don’t know the difference. We don’t have long haired punk ass college students with waxed eye brows, $500 dollar Italian leather jackets and pierced body parts in my district of old retired military and farmers. Obots stuck out like sore thumbs and we had no idea who they were. They didn’t belong.
Nonsense!
There were no buses in my precinct. The parking lot was full though. My precinct was filled with people I recognized from walking my dog or the grocery store. There were no Soho/Haight-Ashbury types in there I promise you!
I received a call from Obama volunteers every day for a week reminding me where my caucus precinct was. Never receive a single call from Hillary’s people despite being registered on her website.
It’s called ORGANIZATION!
JS, your argument is like saying smoking does not cause lung cancer because my father smoked two packs a day and never developed cancer. Your argument doesn’t hold water.
He’s one of the three obamanite monkeys — see no evil …..
PS we were voted district captains because we stood up to the imported Obots that were brought in. They disappeared very quickly when we started questioning them. But their votes were still counted. Hillary would have won our district had it nt been for those twerps.
See No Evil obamanite doesn’t want to hear your truth …. it doesn’t comport with his version of hopium …. or change.
There’s no reasoning with this obamanite see no evil … they don’t want to know the truth because it flies in the face of the hopium.
Minnesota isn’t all of the US. Sorry to clue ya’ … Here in Akron, HRC’s people were hit over the heads with their signs by an obamanite. He’s in jail. So don’t get cute and pretend that there weren’t irregularities. It happened. He’s just as illegitimate to me as shrub was. More so because he claims to be a Democrat(sic) …
Goodness Johnee!
Are you going to try and attempt to equate all Caucuses with YOUR own experience?
You don’t know what went on in TX or NV or any other state much less any other caucus areas in YOUR own state. Unless of course, you caucused for That One around the nation and we all know that wouldn’t have been legal:-)
Stop the lovefest!
Dude, you’re the same as a Bushbot.
Why don’t you just go away and live in your pretty little “bro’s before ho’s” world, and ignore comments like “Harlem is not Bill Clinton’s plantation” by Senator Nelson from NY.
The very fact that uhbama failed to stand up at the very beginning and LEAD against “racist” accusations hurled at Bill and Hillary, and INSTIGATED this slander, shows me ALL I need to know about this mixed race charlatan who pals up with domestic terrorists to dole out millions to inner city Chicago schools teaching black liberation theory.
Better yet, just keep your tv tuned to MSNBC, as the neo-cons did with Faux news.
Because..you’re JUST LIKE THEM, but too fucking blind to see it.
It was called intimidation, which may be a part of your strategy but lacks an ethical foundation.
Johnny Smithfield
What part of truth or what went on do u not understand?
Just because u say it did not happen in your peaceful haven does not mean it did not happen. AND u must be a loon just to imply everyone is some sort of nut due to the actions of some at a caucus.
Do u always feel people need to lie there way through life?
It’s called cheating because the way it worked actually meant his campaign thumbed its nose at the rules of the Democratic party in the states that held caucuses. Maybe, because they were party rules, you think they don’t matter because, after all, the DNC had already “selected” the candidate it wanted. I am sorry, I took party rules to be as important as rules for general election voting. MY BAD!
Since my party had no respect for the rules it has lost my respect and my name as a member.
Unless you were actually involved in the primary by attending caucuses and county, state house district, state senate district, congressional district, and state conventions and assemblies–don’t talk to us who did waste our time at those events about how he used “strategy.” I saw bullying, cheating, and buying of votes.
He will never be my president either. I have never dislike anyone as much as I dislike him….not even my ex. He needs to prove that he is a natural born citizen, PERIOD.
OK I came on here to comment on Daschle and agree with Uppity. Obama needs to cut him loose or he’ll be a hypocrite.
But then someone made an inane comment about Obama being illegitimate because he was not “born in America”. So I commented that this was patently false…though the fake COLB rumor was given voice on this site during the campaign it ultimately proved to be complete BS. I simply stated that comments like these by anti-Obama forces only serve to de-legitimate your cause. Beebop made some reference to “caucus fraud” which again was never proven as fact so I challenged her on it.
Incidentally, I did a search of voter irregularities/fraud in the caucuses and couldn’t find any legitimate news sources who could verify any “caucus fraud“ or “caucus irregularities“. The only sites who had “stories” of caucus fraud were PUMA sites, far right wing sites, or neo-Nazi sites like Stormfront. And even their “stories” were 2nd and 3rd hand accounts of ranting supporters, none of which could be verified by others of the MSM.
Interestingly, the only real story I found on voter irregularity was about Obama getting screwed in Hillary supporter Charlie Rangel’s district of Harlem. Despite getting 80-90% support among AA nationwide, there were 83 precincts in Harlem where Obama got zero votes. That’s right…not one single vote. Hmmm…
Anyway, I think some of you are stuck in this weird time warp and you need to get out. Come to the light…it’s not May 2008 anymore! You’re like those Japanese soldiers they found in Borneo 15 years after the war still fighting WW2! Let me translate that into PUMA language: Empress Hill-oito surrendered her forces to the army Gen. Barky Oblowme Soetoro. Since then, Hill-oito has joined forces with Hussein Soetoro and his wench, Michelle “Whitey Tape” Oblowme to take control of the government. The End.
However if it is still May 2008 in your world, let me give you some advice. Take a trip to Vegas and bet everything you have on Pittsburgh and Arizona to make it to the Super Bowl. You’ll be rich!
I applaud NQ writers from staying away from this nonsense and offering insightful analysis on today’s issues (like Daschle’s nomination). It is interesting every time LJ and Susan try to pull the comments section of their blog into the real world, you call them kool-aid drinkers. Ha!
Yeah, well, big shock there. Welcome to our world. The twisted “reasoning” that NQ did little or no reportage of value before the elections when the msm surely picked up all relevant facets of this guy is so ridiculous I almost hesitate to jump this trap at all…but
here you go to educate yourself. Happy reading!
http: //www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/
Is there a difference?
The one complaining of caucus fraud were the pretend Democrats who got scared that there were black people at the caucus. In the end there were two things PUMA achieved :-
1) It got rid of some really nasty people from the Democratic Party if they ere ever in it at all. Good riddance.
2) They helped secure the election of Obama as Fox presented them as relevant; this led to McCain picking Palin and not much more needs to be said of that
The PUMA lot are just continually and laughably stupid. Darragh (I must have forgotten to dante to Hillary) Murphy continually forgets that she is claiming to be an ex Democrat. One of the people who was doing a “documentary” was banned from here because of her pure hate and they still ptomote every lie and conspiracy theory out there. No matter how extreme the source.
UKforDems…do you ever get tired of lying? That blathering you just did. Are you so frigging IGNORANT and STUPID that you don’t realize that MANY of the people who reported the Caucus Fraud were BLACK? Maybe you can once and for all stop your BS trolling and do your homework.
PS There are three documentaries being made about this. And you can keep insulting the people who KNOW the Caucus Fraud existed, but one of them is a writer for Susan and Larry, and respected poster here, Dr. Lynette Long. Clearly you haven’t had the intelligence to read her brilliant work and admit that you are wrong and a liar.
Why not try refuting one single point with some real evidence.
As for Lynette Long, she is now promoting what PUMA things would call terrorism if done by black people. It has been doing so since early December. There is an irony in the posting time of its message as well.
Now yesterday there was a big chunk against action being taken on Proposition H8. The biggest difficulty for the Doctor is how do you turn 5 in to 25?
UK…I KNOW what happened. I know people it happened to. You’re wrong and you won’t change the anyone’s mind here. I don’t know what this other rant of yours is about Dr. Long. All I know is that she, and MANY others, provided accurate documentation and statistics that proved Hillary won the nomination and it was hijacked from her. That’s not sour grapes, as you claim. I wouldn’t have voted for either of them. But I’m American and the squelching of Democracy, what little we have left, has been deeply disturbing to me and the others here. You can lie, spin, twist, etc. But you are pissing in the wind. But thank God there are people out there documenting it so it never happens again.
UKeleleforDims: You are a douchebag of the first order. I was a Democrat long before you came along you putrescent pommy. It was not us that were nasty, you bombastic buffoon. Rather it was the likes of you and your scumbag fellow travelers that made a mockery out of the Democratic process through intimidation, subterfuge, misdirection, distortions, and lies. You can post until the chickens come home to roost (which they will) but you will never convince anyone with more than two brain cells that you are being anything but dishonest every time you post. You are not a Democrat but an Obamacrat… or better yet, an autocrat.
I would say that your try was a good one, but it was a failure just like you. Now take your Brit bum away and worship at That One’s feet and leave the commenting to those of us who are Americans.
Well said Ferd…
UKforDems your an embarrasment! get the UK off your name you make me cringe…
Thanks, JustMe. I am getting quite fed up with that pusillanimous provocateur and its diatribes.
uk, shut the fxxx up. i am sick and tired of your whining on here. GO PUMA and get lost asxhole!
What a pathetic post. Caucus Fraud is a long accepted, pitiful FACT of the 2008 Selection. Even the brain dead know it happened. Why do you people come here to peddle your crap? My God, one of the most prominent authorities on Caucus Fraud, Dr. Lynette Long, posts HERE at NQ. Could you be more ignorant? Typical Bot spin and lies. YAWN.
“Incidentally, I did a search of voter irregularities/fraud in the caucuses and couldn’t find any legitimate news sources who could verify any “caucus fraud“ or “caucus irregularities“.”
Hey, in my own county of fairly non-dramatic Colorado, my own county chairperson turned in over 200 names of people who came to the precinct caucuses without being registered Democrats–one of the party rules here. Their precinct captains (I’m guessing bots) allowed them to vote against the rules. She turned their names in and didn’t allow their votes. Now I am guessing this happened all through Colorado, but I’m also guessing that not all county chairs were as concerned about “rules” as was mine.
I personally know many people who tried to get the information out to “legitimate” news sources and nothing came of it. Most of the “legitimate” news sources didn’t want to be seen as taking on a political party.
If you’re putting your money on what you have termed “legitimate” news sources, boy are you in trouble. Go back to your legitimate MSNBC and leave us alone.
Apparently you will not find any good source of the irregularity of the primaries and caucuses from the sources you searched.
For one thing MSM purposely omitted those stories because they have been in the tank for Obama. When bloggers all over the internet come up with stories about the election irregularities on the part of the Obama crowd, they needed to be verified. The truth is there is verification especially by the contributors to this website. The anomalies did really happen..
If you discriminate against those sources that ran contrary to your opinion, you will never find the truth or you will continue disagreeing with the truth.
you apparently are a Kool Aid drinker, like your Kool Aid crew, you all never address the grievance- you make no mention of Daschle and the entire subject of this thread. Apparently you think it is ok to lie, cheat and steal.
PEDDLE YOUR HORSESHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE
Read below. That’s the reason I came on here in the 1st place.
Maybe if the committees would not approve this tax evading crooks and make him submit others’ names, maybe, just maybe enough crooks would paying previously evaded taxes that our national debt would come down!
I like it! Let’s line them up alphabetically.
Even though I am an Obama supporter, I am forced to agree with LJ and Uppity 100% on this issue.
Part of the reason I supported Obama over Hillary in the primaries was I believed him when he said it would not be business as usual in Washington with him in the WH. This smells like typical Washington BS to me.
If it were a small accounting error (say $5000), I would let it slide. Hard to believe $128K is an accounting error!
The President should pull Daschle’s nomination immediately.
But he won’t because he’s a
born and breddyed in the wool Chicago style crook pol … hahahahahahaha …. he’s Blago’s boy!Johnny — thank you — you do stand for something after all. I believe that there are a lot of people like you who were taken in by the hype. But there are more important issues for Dems than the fact that Obama is not George Bush — Who in the Hell is Obama anyway?
85% of Americans are nervous about this 800 Bill Porkulous package and almost 50% of Americans want to leave this country. Sounds like the natives are getting restless.
One more thing Johnny — trust but verify.
“Part of the reason I supported Obama over Hillary in the primaries was I believed him when he said it would not be business as usual in Washington with him in the WH. This smells like typical Washington BS to me.”
Welcome to reality.
What I find amazing is that you paid so little attention that you beleived Obama, just because he said it? Since when do you not research and check out the candidates background to make an informed opinion when voting.
There was every indication that Obama didn’t mean much of what he said while campaigning. Where were you ? He changed his mind and expressed support for an issue at one rally and turned around and said just he opposite at another rally the same day on more than one occasion.
Well, hopefully you will have learned a very good lesson by the end of this administration . Unfortunately we have to live with your vote as well.
Bots only believe what comes from That One’s
Lyingprevaricatingtwo mouths.Obama is from the very BOTTOM of the stinky, murky, nasty ass Chicago Sewer, treading skanky water while his lies and cheating catch up to him.
Well it seems business as usual even MORE MEN with more to hide coming to the fore.
Many are like sheep following along….
Did u know “Smithfield” is a market? I guess you too follow along.
This you believed from a guy who was the King of “pay to play” in IL. Remember he put in an earmark for a hospital in IL where his wife worked and and his wife’s salary waS increased from approximately $150K to 300K. ha ha
Why didn’t he pull Geithner’s nom then? He does what he pleases and the hell with the law or anyone else’s legal objections. How many more lobbyists is he going to “allow” even though he said, more than once, he wouldn’t ever have one in his administration? He is a total fraud and he doesn’t care what any body thinks especially you worshippers who think he can do no wrong. He’s got you right where he wants you and remember you are disposable if he chooses you to be. Good show though Johnny, but those of us who have been here a long time can see one of you coming a mile away. Your disguise of gentlemanly discussion can’t hide your true agenda. Enjoy him, because it is on your heads whatever happens with his policies and their results for the next 4 years.
For politicians, orientation has nothing to do with finding one’s way around.
It’s about learning to do an “end run” around the rules of ethics!
Geesh what does it take to figure out That One is no different than any other POLITICIAN.
He put a guy in charge of Treasury that willingly didn’t pay taxes. Think of all the poor IRS agents who will now be forced to work from a disadvantaged position.
There are 11 former lobbyist on his staff. If you say say you value something there are NO COMPROMISES. As one person said, the graveyards are full of peole who couldn’t be replaced.
Obama has never been what he has portrayed himself to be. He is the STATUS QUO not a change agent.
Stop the lovefest!
Actually to me he is worse than the average politician.
Obama campaigned almost exclusively as the hopey dopey change-o-magic man, new and different, not like the rest of them on the paper money, when in fact he is as scummy as the rest. Possibly scummier.
His new tactic of lecturing us on how bad America was before him is getting old very quickly. How arrogant and obnoxious can one man be?
And how about this, which has been going on for years. They take money in bailout from US taxpayers, yet…
http://www.examiner.com/x-2547-Watchdog-Politics-Examiner~y2009m2d1-Foreign-workers-take-jobs-from-Americans
sowsear: read this in the morning headlines. AP is investigating. Then we have to pay these slimeballs to get their butts bailed out with our tax dollars. Foreign workers at the top, illegal workers at the bottom. What a great system. They still can’t keep the economy afloat.
I’m sure Daschele’s “tax oversight” will be described in the same way Geithner’s was: a minor hiccup, an ordinary mistake. And remember Geithner was advertised as the best man, possibly the only man to solve our economic woes. Now we have Daschele touted as the best man, possibly the only man who can solve our health care woes.
See a pattern here?
Sickening. The word applies to Pelosi as well, someone I had great hopes for but who has proven herself nothing more than a partisan hack.
We are screwed!
However, one of my sons called this morning and said judging from the Sunday headlines he’d read in Philly, the Obama honeymoon has come to a shuddering halt. And how long has it been?? Twelve days?
Looks like governing may prove far harder than running an election, the big “experience” lie.
But then, I voted for Hillary. And then the old guy.
Peggy Sue: I love your comment. My thought, exactly. Easy to run a corrupt campaign, not so easy governing for all the people–especially when you have cater to the crooks who put you in office. I believe it’s the same problemo that Bush had.
Axelrod wanted to be the Democratic Rove, now he’s got a Democratic Dubya.
And he said he could get along with the Republicans….. ha. ha. ha. Someone forgot to tell them.
New Bill H.R.40: Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act by John Conyers
http://www.countusout.wordpress.com
Luckily, that won’t be divisive. Out of work pale people will be happy to fork over another tax so that the likes of Oprah Winfrey can be compensated.
Lets take care of the native Americans first, then reparations for the families of the Union soldiers who fought so that blacks could today ask for reparations. First things first. And the first bot to wail racist, gets the Fickle Finger of Fate award directly from Markle Farkle, my good neighbor.
And, I’d like to add to that, reparations for women!
Just to clarify, I meant reparations for women in the general sense and not in any particular order.
I’m glad Daschle withdrew his name!
Every day, in every way, the political leaders of our government constantly justify a sudden defenestration of 50% of their number, and display exuberant arrogance toward the populace.
I think you are too meager in your estimate of the percent needing to be thrown out the window.
Preferably a window in the upper levels of the Empire State Building. (Hopefully it would not damage the pavement … too much.)
I dunno–as dense as their skulls appear to be, they could leave quite a dent, even in concrete.
Bad visual jw, especially in NYC.
..and with Geithner–didn’t IMF actually give him the money to pay the taxes?
I am disgusted and will never trust the dems until their leadership has been replaced.
That’s all he has earned in consulting fees since 2004? Wow, he must not be a very good consultant if he has averaged only $20,000/yr.
The lobby group that Mr. Daschle wasn’t lobbying for neglected to list one monthly payment. They were paying him a million a year.
Uppity: Thanks for this article. Daschle was one of the main moving forces behind Os candidacy–the only way he could ever get back in D. C. I kept telling my husband, the guy is a lobbyist for pharmas, and Obama’s making SEC of Health!
Yah, it’s new day in Washington, the scoundrels all have different names.
The only thing new in Washington these days is the farts left in the seat cushions are from different assholes.
LMAO. Nicely done.
oh geez…LMAO
LOL
That’s how they vote “present.”
Of course it could be a sign that the hogwash they’ve been drinking and the pork they’ve been dining on have given them a well-deserved bout of dyspepsia.
Maybe we should put some laxatives in the bubbles, because they all are full of shit!!
Maybe we should put some laxatives in the water fountains, aka bubblers, because they all are full of shit!!
That is certainly the truth.
I’ve seen that picture of Daschle someplace else:
http://www.lynchposters.com/images/Oh-God.jpg
What goes around comes around. This Daschle dog’s day will come. Can’t you just feel the backlash? Obama is starting to look, as we could have told everyone, like just another politician.
Agreed. Everyone here at NQ knew that from the very beginning. But the supporters of That One will fall back on their fail-safe defense…wait for it…”It was all HRC’s fault” because blah, blah, blah, blah, (and blah).
Yep. Stake out the designated lightning rod–looks like a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.
Think I’m a-gonna start lurking over at Huff-Po & DK. Fun’s a-comin’ for sure.
Think I’m a-gonna start lurking over at Huff-Po & DK
Oh, God …. they sure have some more half assed excuses left for these guys, right? Distracted? Confused? Job change?
How is it that the good folks of SD voted him out and 0-bah-mah thinks that he knows more than the voters?
Just look at the comments of furious George on the Ledbetter thread and you’ll have your answer about this sort of boneheaded reasoning.
Little George has no reasoning ability whatsoever ….
Tommy gets him nothing. He let Richardson go. He should cut Tom loose at the first opportunity. He’s not Geithner.
Katmoon has been over there lurking. The hyperbole, hystrionics, and hyperventilating is a wonder to behold.
American Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) resulted from merging American Association of Health Plans with Health Insurance Association of America, which was the group that aired the Harry & Louise commercials that helped sink the Clinton health plan. So you see, it’s all Hillary’s fault!
great post UW…another tax evader. And bots talk about Bush and the Republicans?
This is a opportunity for Steele and Republicans to get right.
Uppity Woman and Larry…
Another Good story and great Picture with caption here at No Quarter..i agree iwth it all, and great Comments here too..
Also agree with woodie above..the repubs are not going to Roll Over…and its another Quarter in the SUPER BRAWL GAME..
Can Republicans roll back any of the unused stimulus if it does pass, though, and they do come to majority in 2010 ??
If such a provision is even possible-but considering that 97% of the package will be laying around in a secret earmark beauracractic slush fund or otherwise untrackable phony government trust fund, I can only pray they don’t take away our only bearings of fiscal hope and sanity.
Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter.” — Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507
Good find, waterstradt.
That was then, this is now.
From the same 1998 speech, Daschle goes on to provide a moment that seems quaintly nostalgic nowadays:
And we all know how that worked out.
“Are we to believe that Tom Daschle is a moron?”
Hell no. LOL, but I think I should qualify for the moron exemption. Do you think the government lets me use that as a defense? Oh no, I’m not an accountant, I can’t afford an accountant, but heaven forbid I make one little math error. I’m expected to be on top of every little tax code. And if I have any questions, I’m welcome to ask someone who barely speaks English for clarification. That is, if I ever get past the phone menu.
I’m so sick of these lying hypocritical crooks. We need term limits, and tougher lobbyist laws (that are actually enforced).
Uppity, you rock!
Looks likme Johnny had to call in re-enforcements. Now, you Obama voters explain Dashcle and all the other almost, maybe is and wannabe lobbyists and gov’t profiteers his administration is bringing in. At least Hillary did care enough about us that she agreed to take the SOS job so we wouldn’t have to worry as much.
HYPOCRITE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. Is anyone keeping track of how many campaign promises O has broken? I think it is more than the number of days he’s been in office.
If it didn’t matter for Tim Geithner, the frikkin Treasury Secretary now head of the IRS, to cheat on his taxes then it won’t matter for Tom Daschle either.
Well, this is change - now the politicians can commit unethical or illegal behavior even BEFORE they get into the federal government. Under Reagan, Bush, and Bush the criminals waited until they were appointed to start looting.
Yesterday, on Face the Nation, Bob Schiefer said that dems had told him that Daschle would be “dead meat” IF he didn’t have the connections he does.
Birds of a feather flock together…vultures in particular!
Ah, I finally get it. The change the Democrats were talking about only meant a change in the party looting the treasury and the hope was that they could get to it while there was still some left to distribute to the ones they are beholden to.
“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998
do as I say to do …..
I just stopped by your blog and thought I would say hello. I like your site design. Looking forward to reading more down the road.
“Obama ‘Absolutely’ Stands by Daschle”
…says it all!
Birds of a feather…and…it takes one to know one…comes to mind here.
so far the only one who had to walk the plank was Hispanic ….
true!
RichardsonPhat So will be OK, though, as he’ll be appearing in the next James bond film as a crook, which won’t be anything like a stretch for him.As a former democrat and now independent, I must say that the Dems in the US Senate and Congress love to raise our taxes, but they are the ones who do not want to pay taxes as exemplified by Daschle.
That is the hypocrisy I see..
Daschle was my biggest argument in regard to Obama’s hypocricy during the Primary/GE. I would argue that although Daschle was “technically” not a Lobbyist while working on the Obama campaign (he’s a multi-millionaire who could afford not to collect a salary and “donate” his time and expertise), he would always be a Lobbyist regardless of whether he was employed by a firm our not due to his past “consulting.” President Obama “rewarded” him by his appointment and now we see Daschle is slimier than ever. Hmmm, for some reason being right about Daschle does not make me feel better…….