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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1151786</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;National Health Information Privacy And Security Week...&lt;/strong&gt;

Intriguing idea, but I don't know if I believe you one hundred percent....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>National Health Information Privacy And Security Week&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Intriguing idea, but I don&#8217;t know if I believe you one hundred percent&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1140459</link>
		<dc:creator>Very Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman is either criminally insane or criminal.  She has a manager AND a publicist.  HELLO... I can barely afford my mortgage, let alone plastic surgery.  And this welfare S..T gets herself saddled with 8 more tiny lives.  Those children deserve better - and that means as far away from that wacko birth machine as they can be taken.  Give the grandparents a break - it is not their responsibility at this time of their life to be changing diapers and worrying about how they can feed 14 kids and their increasingly selfish child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman is either criminally insane or criminal.  She has a manager AND a publicist.  HELLO&#8230; I can barely afford my mortgage, let alone plastic surgery.  And this welfare S..T gets herself saddled with 8 more tiny lives.  Those children deserve better - and that means as far away from that wacko birth machine as they can be taken.  Give the grandparents a break - it is not their responsibility at this time of their life to be changing diapers and worrying about how they can feed 14 kids and their increasingly selfish child.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara Barringer</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1139102</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara Barringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she wants to be Jon and Kate and make money. I love Jon and Kate and at least Jon works. She does'nt work and her mom says shes going home after this. Her kids should all be put up for adoption to people who have wanted children for a long time. Watching Dateline right now. Hospital cost 3 Million and I don't want to pay it. Unemployeed she can't pay it! I have already lost my job after 27 years and I don't want to be responsiblty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she wants to be Jon and Kate and make money. I love Jon and Kate and at least Jon works. She does&#8217;nt work and her mom says shes going home after this. Her kids should all be put up for adoption to people who have wanted children for a long time. Watching Dateline right now. Hospital cost 3 Million and I don&#8217;t want to pay it. Unemployeed she can&#8217;t pay it! I have already lost my job after 27 years and I don&#8217;t want to be responsiblty.</p>
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		<title>By: BARB</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134687</link>
		<dc:creator>BARB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are other reports saying she has not worked since 2002...and also that all of her 6 older children were the result of in-vitro fertilization. Some other reports say she was actually married for a short time...but never got pregnant by her husband.  These stories also were originally reported as being told by her mother.  Who knows?  Sounds like the whole family is nuts.  The hospital bill has been estimated as $3 million...so far.  I read that Oprah doesn't pay for interviews.  Don't know if this is true...but I certainly doubt that she would be would be stupid enough to pay $2 million to that pathetic person....and Oprah didn't get to be where she is by being stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other reports saying she has not worked since 2002&#8230;and also that all of her 6 older children were the result of in-vitro fertilization. Some other reports say she was actually married for a short time&#8230;but never got pregnant by her husband.  These stories also were originally reported as being told by her mother.  Who knows?  Sounds like the whole family is nuts.  The hospital bill has been estimated as $3 million&#8230;so far.  I read that Oprah doesn&#8217;t pay for interviews.  Don&#8217;t know if this is true&#8230;but I certainly doubt that she would be would be stupid enough to pay $2 million to that pathetic person&#8230;.and Oprah didn&#8217;t get to be where she is by being stupid!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashy1</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134366</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this mother is not financially capable of providing for her offspring and taxpayers will have to shoulder the costs, then I believe the fertility doctors who were instrumental in creating this situation should pick up at least part of the tab on these children for the next 20 years or so.  It seems to me that they are just as responsible for these babies as the man who donated the sperm and the baby-collecter herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this mother is not financially capable of providing for her offspring and taxpayers will have to shoulder the costs, then I believe the fertility doctors who were instrumental in creating this situation should pick up at least part of the tab on these children for the next 20 years or so.  It seems to me that they are just as responsible for these babies as the man who donated the sperm and the baby-collecter herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134259</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now we also learned that this mom has been getting slightly over $200 000 in Workers Comp these past 10 years. Public records. Why? Bad back.  Geeee, I thought being pregnant constantly isn't very good for a bad back either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now we also learned that this mom has been getting slightly over $200 000 in Workers Comp these past 10 years. Public records. Why? Bad back.  Geeee, I thought being pregnant constantly isn&#8217;t very good for a bad back either.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134258</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Way to many students are graduating with a sixth grade reading level and no marketable skills.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be way &lt;strong&gt;too&lt;/strong&gt; many</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Way to many students are graduating with a sixth grade reading level and no marketable skills.</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be way <strong>too</strong> many</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134256</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, shouldn't she quit gossiping about public schools and not hurt the teacher's feelings?  Also, how does it make all the children who go to or have gone to public schools feel?

I mean I went to public schools.  My grandfather was the county superintendent for 20 years and started all kinds of projects that helped the schools all over the country.  

I work for a state college.  I guess that's a big problem too.

Man, I'm glad msliberal pointed out what a loser I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, shouldn&#8217;t she quit gossiping about public schools and not hurt the teacher&#8217;s feelings?  Also, how does it make all the children who go to or have gone to public schools feel?</p>
<p>I mean I went to public schools.  My grandfather was the county superintendent for 20 years and started all kinds of projects that helped the schools all over the country.  </p>
<p>I work for a state college.  I guess that&#8217;s a big problem too.</p>
<p>Man, I&#8217;m glad msliberal pointed out what a loser I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134251</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say it's nobody else's business...no one except the taxpayers, huh?  I mean CA is broke but she gets to do what she wants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say it&#8217;s nobody else&#8217;s business&#8230;no one except the taxpayers, huh?  I mean CA is broke but she gets to do what she wants?</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134230</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who paid for it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who paid for it?</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134226</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if I buy the story that the babies were a result of embryos that split. Identical sets of quads would be a bigger story than just octuplets. The story would be even more rare. If something like that had happened, I would imagine it would have been reported from the start. The splitting of the embryos would be a totally natural occurrence. I don't think there would have been much of an emphasis on the fertility treatments, especially if there were only two embryos implanted. This story began as a nice one. I just don't see them leaving out a detail like that in the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I buy the story that the babies were a result of embryos that split. Identical sets of quads would be a bigger story than just octuplets. The story would be even more rare. If something like that had happened, I would imagine it would have been reported from the start. The splitting of the embryos would be a totally natural occurrence. I don&#8217;t think there would have been much of an emphasis on the fertility treatments, especially if there were only two embryos implanted. This story began as a nice one. I just don&#8217;t see them leaving out a detail like that in the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: wodiej</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134221</link>
		<dc:creator>wodiej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfortunately when she gives birth it will no longer be her business, it will be the taxpayers. She is not married and undoubtedly she will be applying for all of the welfare she can get. Nice little income she'll have there. Wouldn't be suprised if her parents are in on the scam too.

People shouldn't have kids they can't be responsible for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately when she gives birth it will no longer be her business, it will be the taxpayers. She is not married and undoubtedly she will be applying for all of the welfare she can get. Nice little income she&#8217;ll have there. Wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if her parents are in on the scam too.</p>
<p>People shouldn&#8217;t have kids they can&#8217;t be responsible for.</p>
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		<title>By: The Real HC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134216</link>
		<dc:creator>The Real HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did mean to imply otherwise. 

The children are the main victims of this horrible woman. The rest of us are the mother's victims as well - we will be paying for her choices one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did mean to imply otherwise. </p>
<p>The children are the main victims of this horrible woman. The rest of us are the mother&#8217;s victims as well - we will be paying for her choices one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: wodiej</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134201</link>
		<dc:creator>wodiej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But the true, deep rooted reason, and psychological studies have proven it, is the lack of consequence that results from such making the wrong decisions&lt;/blockquote&gt;

BINGO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But the true, deep rooted reason, and psychological studies have proven it, is the lack of consequence that results from such making the wrong decisions</p></blockquote>
<p>BINGO!!</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCollier</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134194</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieCollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touchet, well said.  I believe that is one of the biggest problems we face in our society.  Our representatives all too often step up and proclaim: "I take full responsibility."  Problem is they never suffer consequences.  If they did, maybe lessons would be learned and if severe enough, not repeated.  One of the commonalities that addicts share is a lack of recognition and respect of boundaries...their own and others.

This woman has escaped consequences so far and has shown no respect for anyone...least of all her children. 14 babies are enough to drive anyone around the bend.  Can you imagine a house of 14 teenagers with an addictive (according to Grandma) mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touchet, well said.  I believe that is one of the biggest problems we face in our society.  Our representatives all too often step up and proclaim: &#8220;I take full responsibility.&#8221;  Problem is they never suffer consequences.  If they did, maybe lessons would be learned and if severe enough, not repeated.  One of the commonalities that addicts share is a lack of recognition and respect of boundaries&#8230;their own and others.</p>
<p>This woman has escaped consequences so far and has shown no respect for anyone&#8230;least of all her children. 14 babies are enough to drive anyone around the bend.  Can you imagine a house of 14 teenagers with an addictive (according to Grandma) mother.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCollier</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134181</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieCollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know where you are msliberal.  I'm sure many public schools come up lacking. My daughter is a teaching assistant in one of the top rated public schools in CA.  Our students get a first rate education so much so that many of our celebrity residents opt out of private schools in favor of our public elementary, middle and high school. 

When I worked with the public, I often met young parents who were planning on moving to our community in order to partake of our public education.  There are always exceptions to generalizations, aren't there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where you are msliberal.  I&#8217;m sure many public schools come up lacking. My daughter is a teaching assistant in one of the top rated public schools in CA.  Our students get a first rate education so much so that many of our celebrity residents opt out of private schools in favor of our public elementary, middle and high school. </p>
<p>When I worked with the public, I often met young parents who were planning on moving to our community in order to partake of our public education.  There are always exceptions to generalizations, aren&#8217;t there?</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Latte LaRue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134172</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz Latte LaRue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it is not okay with you for others to speak out about not wanting to have their tax dollars go to "this woman."  Biased towards your own notions and not those of others, would fit here, MsLiberal.

As for Obama, I hold all liberals accountable and yes, responsible for devaluing the whole country.  I will not argue the point of change. I will argue that liberal losers devalued the country by choosing the idol rather than the professional.

Don't lecture.  I used to be a liberal, until I found out liberals are just as short sighted and arrogant as their counterparts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it is not okay with you for others to speak out about not wanting to have their tax dollars go to &#8220;this woman.&#8221;  Biased towards your own notions and not those of others, would fit here, MsLiberal.</p>
<p>As for Obama, I hold all liberals accountable and yes, responsible for devaluing the whole country.  I will not argue the point of change. I will argue that liberal losers devalued the country by choosing the idol rather than the professional.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lecture.  I used to be a liberal, until I found out liberals are just as short sighted and arrogant as their counterparts.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Latte LaRue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134165</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz Latte LaRue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you speaking from experience, Msliberal?</description>
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		<title>By: alibe</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134153</link>
		<dc:creator>alibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just how would the parents have prevented this deranged fool from having these babies?  I am sure she didn't ask her parents for their approval.  Guess who is coming home for dinner, and breakfast and lunch? 
It is a bizarre situation, but the parents seem to be between a rock and the really hard place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just how would the parents have prevented this deranged fool from having these babies?  I am sure she didn&#8217;t ask her parents for their approval.  Guess who is coming home for dinner, and breakfast and lunch?<br />
It is a bizarre situation, but the parents seem to be between a rock and the really hard place.</p>
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		<title>By: Touchet</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/octomom-redux/#comment-1134142</link>
		<dc:creator>Touchet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before we even address the issue as to why people do things that effect others, lets discuss briefly what is “irresponsibility” and that will lead us straight as to why people do it. Webster’s Dictionary defines irresponsibility as “: unable especially mentally or financially to bear responsibility.” Responsible is defined as ": liable to be called to account as the primary cause, motive, or agent &lt;a&gt; (2): being the cause or explanation".

Now, if irresponsibility is sure to end up hurting someone or several individuals, then, what motivates people to irresponsible? There are many reasons why people feel compelled to be irresponsible, therefore, making their actions hurt others. Sometimes people do it out of spite, just because they can. Other times people are irresponsible because they feel they will benefit from its end result, such as possibly fulfilling a selfish need or dream. But the true, deep rooted reason, and psychological studies have proven it, is the lack of consequence that results from such making the wrong decisions. The person feels that their decisions do not effect others and have never suffered the consequences as a result.  Sometimes they are enabled or allowed to do so because they were either never taught how to be responsible or they consequences of their actions do not outweigh the benefits.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we even address the issue as to why people do things that effect others, lets discuss briefly what is “irresponsibility” and that will lead us straight as to why people do it. Webster’s Dictionary defines irresponsibility as “: unable especially mentally or financially to bear responsibility.” Responsible is defined as &#8220;: liable to be called to account as the primary cause, motive, or agent <a> (2): being the cause or explanation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, if irresponsibility is sure to end up hurting someone or several individuals, then, what motivates people to irresponsible? There are many reasons why people feel compelled to be irresponsible, therefore, making their actions hurt others. Sometimes people do it out of spite, just because they can. Other times people are irresponsible because they feel they will benefit from its end result, such as possibly fulfilling a selfish need or dream. But the true, deep rooted reason, and psychological studies have proven it, is the lack of consequence that results from such making the wrong decisions. The person feels that their decisions do not effect others and have never suffered the consequences as a result.  Sometimes they are enabled or allowed to do so because they were either never taught how to be responsible or they consequences of their actions do not outweigh the benefits.</a></p>
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