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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1135028</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha,ha, throw grandma under the bus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha,ha, throw grandma under the bus!</p>
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		<title>By: toni</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134275</link>
		<dc:creator>toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134239</link>
		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where&#039;s the socialism?  giving money to the already rich and powerful seems more like a corporatist aristocracy than socialism.  as far as the people who don&#039;t pay *federal* income tax, some of us do work, we just don&#039;t get paid worth a shit, as is evidenced by the tax bracket we&#039;re in.  something needs to be done to increase the income of WORKERS in this country, but a lot of people are still taking the &quot;let them eat cake&quot; attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where&#8217;s the socialism?  giving money to the already rich and powerful seems more like a corporatist aristocracy than socialism.  as far as the people who don&#8217;t pay *federal* income tax, some of us do work, we just don&#8217;t get paid worth a shit, as is evidenced by the tax bracket we&#8217;re in.  something needs to be done to increase the income of WORKERS in this country, but a lot of people are still taking the &#8220;let them eat cake&#8221; attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Magic Puzzle Box</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134232</link>
		<dc:creator>Magic Puzzle Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard about this clip on another blog and was astonished by it, as I have been more and more since just before the election.  Who would have expected Marxism to be so boldly proclaimed in the US like this, especially after so many Communist governments have failed?  

It seems only the people who actually lived under a Communist system, ie. the immigrants from those countries, aren&#039;t wrapped up in some romantic notions about it.  The whole thing about the 60s radicals coming into their own now was really a shock for me.  

Back when I was studying Russian, at the time of the fall of the Berlin Wall, I never dreamed anyone in America was so interested in Communism.  (I only studied Russian because I thought the alphabet was pretty and was good at languages.)  I was born in 1970, and nobody in the program I was in, even the Stalinist history classes, ever hinted at how fashionable and even desirable it was here in America to be Communist.  

Sure, I heard about McCarthy, but there was no real Communism in America, according to the silence surrounding the issue I heard just about everywhere.  Now going back to read the history books just to figure out what was going on in this election has revealed quite the opposite situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard about this clip on another blog and was astonished by it, as I have been more and more since just before the election.  Who would have expected Marxism to be so boldly proclaimed in the US like this, especially after so many Communist governments have failed?  </p>
<p>It seems only the people who actually lived under a Communist system, ie. the immigrants from those countries, aren&#8217;t wrapped up in some romantic notions about it.  The whole thing about the 60s radicals coming into their own now was really a shock for me.  </p>
<p>Back when I was studying Russian, at the time of the fall of the Berlin Wall, I never dreamed anyone in America was so interested in Communism.  (I only studied Russian because I thought the alphabet was pretty and was good at languages.)  I was born in 1970, and nobody in the program I was in, even the Stalinist history classes, ever hinted at how fashionable and even desirable it was here in America to be Communist.  </p>
<p>Sure, I heard about McCarthy, but there was no real Communism in America, according to the silence surrounding the issue I heard just about everywhere.  Now going back to read the history books just to figure out what was going on in this election has revealed quite the opposite situation.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134163</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;...&quot;The government should allow every distressed bank to go bankrupt and set up a fresh banking system under temporary state control rather than cripple the country by propping up a corrupt edifice.&quot;

Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize-winning economist &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is the procedure, that is what we do with insolvent banks. That is what the &lt;strong&gt;FDIC &lt;/strong&gt;is for.

We don&#039;t prop up the bad banks. The regulators help them become solvent through a resolution and restructuring of their bad debt, and then either sell them, sell their assets independently, or allow them to re-emerge as good banks once they are solvent

This is precisely what Le Café Américain has had on the menu for the banks over the past seven months, with some detail behind it, including systemic reforms.

We do not burden an entire national economy, we do not cripple an entire banking industry including many regional banks who have done no wrong, in propping up a few insolvent institutions who arrived at that state through outrageous bad management.

There is widespread suspicion that &lt;strong&gt;this exercise is designed to protect a handful of large money center banks from realizing their losses - JPM, C, Morgan Stanley, B of A, and Goldman Sachs.&lt;/strong&gt;

Let the system work. Do not continue to privatize the gains and subsidize the losses.

And then let the criminal and civil investigations of the major actors in this modern tragedy begin, if we ever wish to &#039;restore confidence&#039; in Wall Street in the public and the rest of the world.

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

&lt;strong&gt;AMEN, JESSE. AMEN.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;“I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it&#039;s hell.” Harry S Truman quotes (American 33rd President of the United States, 1884-1972) ...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8221;The government should allow every distressed bank to go bankrupt and set up a fresh banking system under temporary state control rather than cripple the country by propping up a corrupt edifice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize-winning economist </p></blockquote>
<p>This is the procedure, that is what we do with insolvent banks. That is what the <strong>FDIC </strong>is for.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t prop up the bad banks. The regulators help them become solvent through a resolution and restructuring of their bad debt, and then either sell them, sell their assets independently, or allow them to re-emerge as good banks once they are solvent</p>
<p>This is precisely what Le Café Américain has had on the menu for the banks over the past seven months, with some detail behind it, including systemic reforms.</p>
<p>We do not burden an entire national economy, we do not cripple an entire banking industry including many regional banks who have done no wrong, in propping up a few insolvent institutions who arrived at that state through outrageous bad management.</p>
<p>There is widespread suspicion that <strong>this exercise is designed to protect a handful of large money center banks from realizing their losses &#8211; JPM, C, Morgan Stanley, B of A, and Goldman Sachs.</strong></p>
<p>Let the system work. Do not continue to privatize the gains and subsidize the losses.</p>
<p>And then let the criminal and civil investigations of the major actors in this modern tragedy begin, if we ever wish to &#8216;restore confidence&#8217; in Wall Street in the public and the rest of the world.</p>
<p><a href="http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>AMEN, JESSE. AMEN.</strong></p>
<p><em>“I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it&#8217;s hell.” Harry S Truman quotes (American 33rd President of the United States, 1884-1972) &#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134126</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, beebop - good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, beebop &#8211; good one!</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134124</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my GOD ... YES!  I wish my vacations felt like they landed this long ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my GOD &#8230; YES!  I wish my vacations felt like they landed this long &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134123</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!</description>
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		<title>By: Neverland</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134122</link>
		<dc:creator>Neverland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was always a Hillary supporter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was always a Hillary supporter.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134121</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s EXACTLY what I thought this morning when I read LD&#039;s post titled, &quot;be careful what you wish for...&quot; regarding capping the salaries of CEOs:

Lenin&#039;s New Economic Program [NEP]. 

I rarely agree with Jim Cramer, but on this occasion, he&#039;s got it precisely right.

Good for Cramer. He&#039;s right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s EXACTLY what I thought this morning when I read LD&#8217;s post titled, &#8220;be careful what you wish for&#8230;&#8221; regarding capping the salaries of CEOs:</p>
<p>Lenin&#8217;s New Economic Program [NEP]. </p>
<p>I rarely agree with Jim Cramer, but on this occasion, he&#8217;s got it precisely right.</p>
<p>Good for Cramer. He&#8217;s right.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134119</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A scary thought, Lark.  And Che Guevara is considered a revolutionary hero in many quarters.

Remember those banners during the primaries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A scary thought, Lark.  And Che Guevara is considered a revolutionary hero in many quarters.</p>
<p>Remember those banners during the primaries?</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCollier</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134118</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieCollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t it seem he&#039;s already been in office forever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t it seem he&#8217;s already been in office forever?</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCollier</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134115</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieCollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, wouldn&#039;t Sarah be busy throwing out the crooks?  I doubt that neither Timmy nor Tommy would have been offered a job in their administration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, wouldn&#8217;t Sarah be busy throwing out the crooks?  I doubt that neither Timmy nor Tommy would have been offered a job in their administration&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Park Slope Pubby</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/04/they-pretend-to-work-we-pretend-to-pay/#comment-1134114</link>
		<dc:creator>Park Slope Pubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also because the &quot;commissars&quot; are getting very very rich.  Only the stupid people work for private industry in today&#039;s world.  The way to make money is to manipulate the taxpayers&#039; money so you get a big share.  Look at Dashle.  Millionaire.  Look at Panetta.  Made $700,000 last year.  All while pretending to be good little Democrats, &quot;for the people&quot; as opposed to those nasty Republicans.  Hypocrisy, pure and simple.  

For these people, who control all the power, of course socialism/communism is a good deal.  Nothing like paying yourself w/ taxpayers&#039; money. And risk-free at that.  

I am just sickened by the state of my country right now.  I literally feel queesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also because the &#8220;commissars&#8221; are getting very very rich.  Only the stupid people work for private industry in today&#8217;s world.  The way to make money is to manipulate the taxpayers&#8217; money so you get a big share.  Look at Dashle.  Millionaire.  Look at Panetta.  Made $700,000 last year.  All while pretending to be good little Democrats, &#8220;for the people&#8221; as opposed to those nasty Republicans.  Hypocrisy, pure and simple.  </p>
<p>For these people, who control all the power, of course socialism/communism is a good deal.  Nothing like paying yourself w/ taxpayers&#8217; money. And risk-free at that.  </p>
<p>I am just sickened by the state of my country right now.  I literally feel queesy.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCollier</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnieCollier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Maxine lost all credibility with me when she said that Fannie and Freddy were doin&#039; just fine, thank you very much.  She should be retired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Maxine lost all credibility with me when she said that Fannie and Freddy were doin&#8217; just fine, thank you very much.  She should be retired.</p>
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