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		<title>By: hiroko</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1138543</link>
		<dc:creator>hiroko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not an American but I have been supporting Gen. Clark since 2003.  At his supporting Mr. Obama after Hillary unfortunately lost opportunity to be nominated, Gen. Clark had to support any democratic nominee for the next president, not the Mr. Bush&#039;s 3rd term.
Gen. Clark is determined and selfless when he needs to be so. He&#039;s truly a good American who the world respects.

Hope America Strong, Just and Hopeful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not an American but I have been supporting Gen. Clark since 2003.  At his supporting Mr. Obama after Hillary unfortunately lost opportunity to be nominated, Gen. Clark had to support any democratic nominee for the next president, not the Mr. Bush&#8217;s 3rd term.<br />
Gen. Clark is determined and selfless when he needs to be so. He&#8217;s truly a good American who the world respects.</p>
<p>Hope America Strong, Just and Hopeful!</p>
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		<title>By: Dormaphaea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dormaphaea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.

I shall don my tinfoil hat and take that hypothesis a step further. 

He was put in the position to take the brass ring precisely because of the ease with which this coercion could take place.  The goods on him were always there, and the powers were poised and ready to take advantage all along.  Which tell me that 0&#039;s narcissism and hubris is his own worst enemy.

Wrapping myself in what left of the tinfoil, in addition to adding another layer to the helmet, I shall go one step further (and off the cliff.)

Looking back on the questionable history of who, exactly, was bankrolling his education and the spring break jaunt to Pakistan, and who was pulling the strings of his so-called &#039;meteoric rise&#039;, one might, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, posit, that this was in motion for Quite Some Time.

There.  I said it.  OK.  I&#039;m crazy.  Whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.</p>
<p>I shall don my tinfoil hat and take that hypothesis a step further. </p>
<p>He was put in the position to take the brass ring precisely because of the ease with which this coercion could take place.  The goods on him were always there, and the powers were poised and ready to take advantage all along.  Which tell me that 0&#8217;s narcissism and hubris is his own worst enemy.</p>
<p>Wrapping myself in what left of the tinfoil, in addition to adding another layer to the helmet, I shall go one step further (and off the cliff.)</p>
<p>Looking back on the questionable history of who, exactly, was bankrolling his education and the spring break jaunt to Pakistan, and who was pulling the strings of his so-called &#8216;meteoric rise&#8217;, one might, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, posit, that this was in motion for Quite Some Time.</p>
<p>There.  I said it.  OK.  I&#8217;m crazy.  Whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Librarian, first off, please spell the name correctly.  Wes Clark is spelled without an &quot;e&quot;, unlike Richard Clarke which does have an &quot;e&quot;.  

Secondly, during an interview on Face the Nation, Bob Sheiffer asked Wes Clark whether or not the fact that John McCain was a fighter pilot and got shot down is qualification for being president.  Of course, Clark said that aspect of McCain&#039;s career and the action of being shot down does not mean a person is automatically qualified.  C&#039;mon.  Consider all the men (and now women) who have been pilots in wars and have been shot down.  Would you say that single action has qualified hundreds of people to be president?  Get serious, now.  Of course not.  McCain&#039;s service and the courage displayed during captivity was hailed by Clark and said that so many honored his service and heroism.  But being a pilot and being shot down does not bestow qualifications to be president.  Anymore than being born of parents of different races and serving 2 years in the U.S. Senate qualifies you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Librarian, first off, please spell the name correctly.  Wes Clark is spelled without an &#8220;e&#8221;, unlike Richard Clarke which does have an &#8220;e&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Secondly, during an interview on Face the Nation, Bob Sheiffer asked Wes Clark whether or not the fact that John McCain was a fighter pilot and got shot down is qualification for being president.  Of course, Clark said that aspect of McCain&#8217;s career and the action of being shot down does not mean a person is automatically qualified.  C&#8217;mon.  Consider all the men (and now women) who have been pilots in wars and have been shot down.  Would you say that single action has qualified hundreds of people to be president?  Get serious, now.  Of course not.  McCain&#8217;s service and the courage displayed during captivity was hailed by Clark and said that so many honored his service and heroism.  But being a pilot and being shot down does not bestow qualifications to be president.  Anymore than being born of parents of different races and serving 2 years in the U.S. Senate qualifies you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1137646</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarke said those words &amp; he knew how that would be taken.

You cant have him being mega intelligent &amp; not realising it negate mcCains military advantage ober Obama.
&#039;Riding in a fighter plane&quot;..is offensive . MccAin was the pilot .

This allowed the LA times to publish a critique on mCains history eg his crashing x number of planes prior to this.

Prior to this turn -mccAin was respected then...hey hey he doesnt even have that over Obama.

Wes Clarke was overtaken by jealousy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarke said those words &amp; he knew how that would be taken.</p>
<p>You cant have him being mega intelligent &amp; not realising it negate mcCains military advantage ober Obama.<br />
&#8216;Riding in a fighter plane&#8221;..is offensive . MccAin was the pilot .</p>
<p>This allowed the LA times to publish a critique on mCains history eg his crashing x number of planes prior to this.</p>
<p>Prior to this turn -mccAin was respected then&#8230;hey hey he doesnt even have that over Obama.</p>
<p>Wes Clarke was overtaken by jealousy.</p>
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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i ordered clark&#039;s book in 2004 and waited in vain for it to arrive. i always like to think that some clarkie in the post office just couldn&#039;t help themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i ordered clark&#8217;s book in 2004 and waited in vain for it to arrive. i always like to think that some clarkie in the post office just couldn&#8217;t help themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: obamastolemyboyfriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>obamastolemyboyfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the prediction did not come true!  I am still baffled that we have PITO.  Why?  Why in hell would people have chosen this after 8 years of Bush?  Why?

God help us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the prediction did not come true!  I am still baffled that we have PITO.  Why?  Why in hell would people have chosen this after 8 years of Bush?  Why?</p>
<p>God help us!</p>
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		<title>By: Tricia Spiegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia Spiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, No, No.  That&#039;s the way it was spun.  The commentator (Bill Schnbeider? forget) asked Clark if parachuting out of an airline was a qualification and Clark said it wasn&#039;t for being president.  Well, it isn&#039;t!  Clark never dissed McCain for his service and sacrifice.  It was just limited to that one narrow incident and Clark was reacting, not initiating the point.

Obama immediately distanced from Clark when he could have, instead, helped explain the circumstance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, No, No.  That&#8217;s the way it was spun.  The commentator (Bill Schnbeider? forget) asked Clark if parachuting out of an airline was a qualification and Clark said it wasn&#8217;t for being president.  Well, it isn&#8217;t!  Clark never dissed McCain for his service and sacrifice.  It was just limited to that one narrow incident and Clark was reacting, not initiating the point.</p>
<p>Obama immediately distanced from Clark when he could have, instead, helped explain the circumstance.</p>
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		<title>By: QuentinCompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuentinCompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Clark said that, Librarian, I might agree with you - but he didn&#039;t say that.

He said, &quot;Well, I don&#039;t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.&quot;

Sounds to me like he got that one right.
-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Clark said that, Librarian, I might agree with you &#8211; but he didn&#8217;t say that.</p>
<p>He said, &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds to me like he got that one right.<br />
-</p>
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		<title>By: blue orchid</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1137531</link>
		<dc:creator>blue orchid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article points out some valid and troubling questions about the one, apparently he is not quite who he professed to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article points out some valid and troubling questions about the one, apparently he is not quite who he professed to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1137528</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarkie here too.  Love that guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarkie here too.  Love that guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1137526</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hot pink &quot;NiXON now more than ever&quot;.badge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hot pink &#8220;NiXON now more than ever&#8221;.badge.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1137523</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did not Wes Clarke do the dirty A lick for Obama with  a highly offensive (militarily) jibe at McCain?

How can you back someone like that? 

Whilst MCain may not have made a good president  Clarke used MCains military experience against him, saying that being shot down did not count for anything. In fact that statement enabled many voters to dismiss MCainwithout feeling guilty..

Clarke thought he knew Obama but hey -he did not .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did not Wes Clarke do the dirty A lick for Obama with  a highly offensive (militarily) jibe at McCain?</p>
<p>How can you back someone like that? </p>
<p>Whilst MCain may not have made a good president  Clarke used MCains military experience against him, saying that being shot down did not count for anything. In fact that statement enabled many voters to dismiss MCainwithout feeling guilty..</p>
<p>Clarke thought he knew Obama but hey -he did not .</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/whither-zinni-and-clark-goest/#comment-1137518</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A classic control mechanism. when you face high level opposition -then dilute it by numbers -upgrade another agency .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A classic control mechanism. when you face high level opposition -then dilute it by numbers -upgrade another agency .</p>
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		<title>By: Calypso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calypso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>General Jones who retired from the Marines only two years ago, was appointed to the boards of Exon and Boeing and he took a position working for a division of the national Chamber of Commerce.  Clark did not go that route which so many high ranking officers do to enrich themselves.

It appears that Jones is a republican.  Jones announced today that he will revamp National Security and include the Dept. of Commerce and Transportation in that network.  Obama has appointed republicans to head Commerce and Transportation and kept Gates and his entire staff at DOD.

How can the public believe that Obama and the democrats were serious when they critisized the Bush Adm. for their stand on Iraq and national security when democrats have put or left republicans in charge of our national security?

Furthermore isn&#039;t appointing or leaving republicans in these positions offending qualified democrats who should have received these appointments??

I&#039;m old but not senile! I don&#039;t understand any of this!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General Jones who retired from the Marines only two years ago, was appointed to the boards of Exon and Boeing and he took a position working for a division of the national Chamber of Commerce.  Clark did not go that route which so many high ranking officers do to enrich themselves.</p>
<p>It appears that Jones is a republican.  Jones announced today that he will revamp National Security and include the Dept. of Commerce and Transportation in that network.  Obama has appointed republicans to head Commerce and Transportation and kept Gates and his entire staff at DOD.</p>
<p>How can the public believe that Obama and the democrats were serious when they critisized the Bush Adm. for their stand on Iraq and national security when democrats have put or left republicans in charge of our national security?</p>
<p>Furthermore isn&#8217;t appointing or leaving republicans in these positions offending qualified democrats who should have received these appointments??</p>
<p>I&#8217;m old but not senile! I don&#8217;t understand any of this!!</p>
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		<title>By: Calypso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calypso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were and are &quot;Clarkies&quot; too.

Met the General several times when he was campaigning in AZ.  He looks you in the eye, listens to what you say and answers whatever he is asked.

In the course of working for his campaign we spoke with many, many, active and retired military of all ranks who had served with the General.  

Never met anyone who had an unfavorable word to say about Clark.  His concern for those who served in his command and their families is legendary.

I&#039;m convinced that no person as experienced, intelligent, honest, caring, articulate, charismatic as General Clark will ever become a presidential nominee.  Our political system is too indebted to corporate interests to fund such a candidate and our entrenched politicians would not look kindly on someone who would easily outshine them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were and are &#8220;Clarkies&#8221; too.</p>
<p>Met the General several times when he was campaigning in AZ.  He looks you in the eye, listens to what you say and answers whatever he is asked.</p>
<p>In the course of working for his campaign we spoke with many, many, active and retired military of all ranks who had served with the General.  </p>
<p>Never met anyone who had an unfavorable word to say about Clark.  His concern for those who served in his command and their families is legendary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that no person as experienced, intelligent, honest, caring, articulate, charismatic as General Clark will ever become a presidential nominee.  Our political system is too indebted to corporate interests to fund such a candidate and our entrenched politicians would not look kindly on someone who would easily outshine them.</p>
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