Where in the world are Hillary and her team, including envoy Richard Holbrooke?
By SusanUnPC on February 13, 2009 at 2:10 AM in Counterterrorism, Martin Luther King, Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, State Department, State Department Press Briefings
I’ve decided, when possible, to write up an update for all of you on Hillary’s and the State Department’s most interesting and newsworthy events, including, below the fold, news about Envoy Richard Holbrooke’s progress in Pakistan as well as Hillary’s remarks on her vision for Envoy Holbrooke’s role. Below, we’ll also discuss Secretary Clinton’s important multinational trip, the first she will take as Secretary of State. And, the Secretary has also organized a CODEL “cultural tour” of India to mark the “50th Anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Trip to India and Black History Month” (full text), about which she speaks in the video below. ALSO: Below the fold, you’ll see some of the fascinating results found in my search for more on the celebration of Martin Luther King through some marvelous, uplifting programs sponsored by the State Department, which serves as a bright warm light in contrast to all the dark news we usually see about the world at large.
At the beginning of her remarks, Secretary Clinton announces that Rep. John Lewis and others will lead a CODEL — CODEL is an acronym that stands for a group of members of Congress who go on a “junket” — along with Ambassador Andy Young, former Senator Harris Wofford, and renowned musician/composer Herbie Hancock (!) (See also: “Secretary to Send Off Cultural Delegation to India.”)
I was curious to learn more, so searched for “Martin Luther King” at the State Department Web site. Here’s a snippet from one of the search results, under “Diversity In Exchange” program, which strives to “build trust between citizens of different backgrounds,” in “Austrian Historian Researches Muslims in the Military.”
Such a program almost seems naive in this cruel, tough world but I couldn’t help but be touched by the sincerity and dedication of the souls behind these efforts. And, as for the search result, “Austrian Historian Researches Muslims in the Military,” at first, I wondered if I’d gotten a “bad” result from my search, but soon the connection became apparent. The page begins with this explanation:
Austrian historian and ethnologist, Dr. Valeria Heuberger, has taken a keen interest in the roles that Muslims have played in both the Austrian and U.S. militaries. That interest, which spans from the First World War to the present-day, has led Heuberger down a path of research comparing and contrasting approaches to diversity on two continents. [...]
Heuberger’s exchange program facilitated meetings with a variety of people including Muslims from Arab countries, Afro-American Muslims, Christians, and NGOs assisting former refugees from Somalia. One meeting she found particularly valuable was with military personnel at the Foreign Military Studies Office (FMSO) in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
The page ends with this reference to Martin Luther King, and ties together the man who spoke about dreams and the people, like Heuberger, who hope to continue to make those dreams real:
Heuberger says that political and spiritual leaders such as Martin Luther King, Jr. have an impact worldwide. “What one can learn from them is never to give up, self-discipline, and compassion,” she says. Her next lecture on “Islam in the U.S.A.” will be in January 2009 at the University of Vienna.
If you’re curious about these kinds of programs, you’ll want to check out this section on cultural exchanges and educational programs.
Next, here’s the official announcement of Hillary’s first trip as Secretary of State:
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s Travel to Asia
In her first trip abroad since taking office, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will travel to Asia, departing Washington, DC on February 15. Secretary Clinton will visit Japan (February 16-18), Indonesia (February 18-19), the Republic of Korea (February 19-20), and China (February 20-22).
In all capitals, Secretary Clinton will be discussing common approaches to the challenges facing the international community, including the financial markets turmoil, humanitarian issues, security and climate change.
In Tokyo, Secretary Clinton will meet with senior Japanese officials for discussions on the strategic bilateral alliance and cooperation with Japan on regional and global issues. The Secretary then will travel to Jakarta to hold consultations will senior Indonesian officials to discuss the close and growing partnership with Indonesia and perspectives on common interests in Southeast Asia.
In Seoul, Secretary Clinton will meet with senior leaders to discuss our expanding global cooperative partnership with our ally, the Republic of Korea.
The Secretary will conclude her trip in China where she will meet with senior officials in Beijing to further develop a positive, cooperative relationship between the United States and the People’s Republic of China.
Now, here’s what else is going on that’s of major importance:
Envoy Richard Holbrooke is in Pakistan:
REUTERS: Feb. 12 - On his maiden visit to Islamabad in his new role as U.S. special envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan, Holbrooke mostly kept his own counsel.
Holbrooke is new to the region and has been charged with coming up with a fresh strategy to pacify Afghanistan and eliminate the al Qaeda threat from Pakistan. Deborah Lutterbeck reports. SOUNDBITES: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair
Here are Secretary Clinton’s remarks on February 6th regarding the role of Envoy Richard Holbrooke. And below, just because I noticed it when I was scouring Reuters’ videos for news stories, a report on the progress that Pakistan is making in going after the plotters responsible for the horrific killings in Mumbai.
Special Representative Holbrooke’s Role in Afghanistan and Pakistan
QUESTION: Well, thank you so much for giving me a couple of minutes. The goal is a really nuanced, substantive profile of Special Representative Holbrooke. Boy, that’s a mouthful.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes.
QUESTION: You know, that gets – that doesn’t so much do a retread of his past, but really talks about the match between man and mission, and how he – what he’s done for the last eight years, how he’s approached this particular job. And so a lot of the story is about your relationship with him, and so all – pretty much all of the questions are geared to that.
The first thing I wanted to ask you about, though, is to tell me, in as much detail as you can, about the origins of your idea for some sort of special envoy or representative to this region. I understand that it was a trip to the region in ’07 and a series of meetings with leaders there that gave you the idea.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, thanks, Jodi, and I’m really happy to talk with you about all of this. I do believe, in general, in the utility of special envoys. I have seen the importance of zeroing in with all tools at our disposal on problems from the Irish Troubles to the Balkans, and I knew that the use of special envoys can be very helpful.
In 2007, I went as a senator to Iraq and Kuwait, Pakistan, Afghanistan, with two of my colleagues, Senator Bayh from Indiana and Representative McHugh from New York. And we had a series of meetings in both Afghanistan and Pakistan that illustrated dramatically the breakdown in communications between President Karzai and President Musharraf, between the governments of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
And it was clear to me that there was a great deal of animosity that could lead to problems between them, and with us as well, in what we were attempting to do. I had a long conversation with both President Karzai and President Musharraf, where each complained at length about the other, and it raised alarm bells in my mind. And when I got back to Washington, I called the White House and I spoke to Steve Hadley, the National Security Advisor, and strongly recommended that the President consider assigning someone to be focused on the area and to interact with the leaders in the two countries.
And that was just not an idea that the Bush Administration thought was worth pursuing. And later, they did appoint General Doug Lute to oversee the military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, but that’s not what I was advocating. And I was convinced from ’07 on that so long as we remained involved in Afghanistan, and so long as Pakistan would impact what we could do in Afghanistan and also had implications for our security and policies in the region, that having an envoy made a lot of sense.
So when President Obama – President-elect Obama asked me if I would be Secretary of State, I told him in the very first conversation that I can recall that I had some ideas if I were to accept the job that I thought would be important to explore, and among those were the idea of immediately moving on someone for the Middle East and someone for Afghanistan and Pakistan. He was positive about the idea. He told me to pursue it, work it up, get back to him.
And after I accepted the position and began looking at the broad array of problems that we were going to inherit, I put the Middle East, Pakistan-Afghanistan, among others, at the very top of the list, and began the process of, you know, recruiting people for both of those posts. And you know, it took some time, and I talked to a lot of people.
But I must confess that from the beginning, I recommended that Richard Holbrooke be the person that I and the President would send to Pakistan and Afghanistan. And I was, you know, delighted when the President agreed and we were able to work the necessary preliminaries from, you know, early – really, late December to mid January so that we could be in a position – because I wanted to nominate our two envoys for the Middle East and Afghanistan and Pakistan as soon as possible. And I explained to the President why I thought that would be an excellent way to, you know, get started and make a statement about what our priorities were, and he agreed. And as you know, we were able to accelerate the process and make the announcements, you know, on the second day of my – you know, of his tenure and the first day of mine.
QUESTION: Sure. And I would love – I mean, aside from the completely obvious parts – his achievements in the Balkans, et cetera, et cetera, his immense, long experience – can you talk a little bit about the specific match between man and mission? You said that immediately you sort of knew that Ambassador Holbrooke was the right person for this particular job. And you know, some of that is completely obvious to me, but since he was such a close advisor of yours so long – for so long, I’m curious about what qualities you saw in him that matched particularly well with the Af-Pak situation.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, as I have said many times, and as the President has reaffirmed, you know, we have to make diplomacy and development at the center of our foreign policy and national security. And I have said, we have got to be smarter about how we exercise our power, and at the heart of smart power are smart people. And as he has proven many times over his long career in service to our country, they don’t come any smarter or more capable than Richard Holbrooke.
You know, at his introduction ceremony, both the President and I emphasized that nowhere is the need for a vigorous diplomatic approach more apparent than in the two regions that epitomize the nuance and complexity of our interconnected world than the Middle East and Afghanistan and Pakistan. Richard represents the kind of robust, persistent, determined diplomacy that the President intends to pursue, and that I’m honored to help him fulfill.
And when I think about what we’re facing in Afghanistan and Pakistan, I believed that, you know, Richard brought a lifetime of experience. He’s passionate about securing peace in situations where it does not exist. He has seen the cost of conflict in terms of human lives with his own eyes going back to the early 1960s in Vietnam. He is single-minded in his desire to make the world a more peaceful place. And I know from many, many hours of conversation, going back many years, that he has a preexisting concern for Afghanistan. As a young diplomat, he traveled through Afghanistan. During the last eight years as he pursued his many interests, and particularly his work on behalf of the Asia Society, he returned to Afghanistan and Pakistan and the neighbors.
And the best way to know how somebody will handle a difficult situation is to look at what they’ve done in the past. And I’ve known of Richard Holbrooke for decades. I watched him up-close in the Clinton Administration. I admire deeply his ability to shoulder the most vexing and difficult challenges. And he does bring relentless focus and energy. He can wear you out, but it is necessary to keep everybody, you know, on point about what we’re trying to achieve.
QUESTION: Okay, great. And talk – let me just finish typing that quote, to keep everybody – can you talk a little bit about the art of managing Richard Holbrooke? I mean, this is a guy who even his closest friends admit that he is loving – you know, and they say this lovingly, that he can be overbearing, that he’s this enormous force of nature, that he can break a little crockery in the process of doing some very noble things. Can you talk a little bit about – since you are his boss – a little bit about, over the years, the best ways you’ve found to direct and focus him?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Gee, I’d never heard that he could be any of those things before. (Laughter.) You know, personally, because I do know him so well, I understand what drives him and, you know, how mission-oriented he is. He’s a consummate professional, and he is always looking for ways to advance the real and lasting solutions that are in pursuit of American interests and values. And obviously, you know, like any, you know, really focused and passionate person, occasionally he has to be, you know, brought down to earth and reined in so that he, you know, doesn’t levitate or, you know, levitate the rest of us.
But he is someone who, you know, is really such a dedicated public servant that I, you know – I am, you know, really grateful he took on this responsibility. It takes – you know, it takes a big change in his life to be able to relocate and do this. But I think that, you know, many – you know, many people who have worked with Richard over the years know that he’s someone who, you know, just doesn’t quit, is always trying to be creative and flexible, but without losing sight of what’s most important. He’s not somebody who gets – you know, loses the forest for the trees. He wants to count every tree, but at the end of the day, he wants to try to, you know, create the conditions that will lead to peace.
MODERATOR: Jodi, I think we’ll have to wrap up unless you have something very pressing.
QUESTION: Okay. Yeah, well, let’s do a couple of sort of fact-checky type things. These are things that I’ve been reporting that I would love your read on. Can you explain a little bit how control of the embassies in Islamabad and Kabul will work? I mean, does – essentially, does he have direct control over those embassies? Or will they work through the regular State Department machinery?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Oh, you know, they’ll work through the regular State Department machinery, but in collaboration. You know, we have many Foreign Service and Civil Service professionals, you know, at State and in the countries, who have been and will continue to be, fully engaged on Afghanistan and Pakistan. You know, they are among the best we have. There are a lot of people of deep experience and expertise. They’ve been dedicated, often at great peril and personal sacrifice, and they’re going to be the underpinning of everything that our government does to achieve peace and stability in the region.
Obviously, I expect everyone to work together. And you know, we’re going to be, you know, looking to, you know, Richard to provide, you know, leadership. But we also will be, you know, seeking out the advice and opinions of others who have roles that are important in helping us determine our way forward.
QUESTION: Mm-hmm. Okay, great. Now, this is definitely something I want to check with you because it involves a pretty private conversation. Someone – not Richard, I should note – told me, obviously second or third hand, that when the President first approached you about the Secretary of State job, that your sort of initial, immediate reaction had been to say, I really think Richard Holbrooke might be the best Secretary of State. You know, I just wanted to run that by you before we even think of putting it in the paper.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I never comment on conversations with presidents. I started that when my husband was president, and I’m going to continue it now –
QUESTION: Okay.
SECRETARY CLINTON: — working for President Obama.
QUESTION: Okay, great. And one more personal anecdote. I have a little sketch of the dinner parties that Ambassador Holbrooke has thrown for you over the years in New York. It sounds like they were pretty fun affairs. Do you have any sort of favorite memories or moments from those?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, Richard and Kati are close friends of mine and, you know, I really enjoy spending time with them. And the annual Christmas dinner, which they started in the late ‘90s, was just a delight. I mean, a wonderful guest list of eclectic and interesting people. You know, one year Richard had the Salvation Army show up and sing Christmas carols, and another year we, you know, had the late Peter Stone, who was just so funny, start an annual tradition of delivering a poem. And you know, he – I was First Lady and he called me the “First Shiksa” of the nation. I mean, we’ve just had a lot of fun over the years, and they’re just great to be with.
QUESTION: Okay. I heard the toasts got considerably more outrageous than that. (Laughter.)
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, you’re not going to get any confirmation from me, Jodi. (Laughter.)
SECRETARY CLINTON: Remember, I am now the chief diplomat of the United States of America. (Laughter.)
QUESTION: Okay, fantastic. Well, thank you so much for this. It was really great to be able to talk to you.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. Great to talk you. Have a good weekend.
And here’s one more Reuters video / story, related to Holbrooke’s mission:
Pakistan moves on Mumbai plotters
REUTERS: Feb 12 Feb 12 - The Pakistani government says for the first time that the attacks on Mumbai were launched and partly planned from Pakistan.
A government advisor said they were holding in custody the ringleader and five other suspects.
The attacks in India’s financial capital killed 179 people.
Pakistani officials have shared their findings with the Indian government, which has heralded Pakistan’s work as a ‘positive development’. — Basmah Fahim reports.









































Susan, you might want to check in with Hillbuzz everyday for this - they’ve been listing Hillary’s daily schedule as SOS each day, although not in the text form it sounds like you’re aiming for. They’re also writing articles each day on previous SOSs. Those gay guys really love Hillary!
Ah, well then if you like what they do, go visit theirs . I’m trying to craft something that reflects my own personal journey of discovering the milieu in which Hillary finds herself and how it affects her. Others may create lists, or whatever, but I’m creating my own unique offering.
You seem to be attacking me - I don’t understand why. I thought I was giving what might be a helpful suggestion. Of course you will create your own unique offering - I love your writing. I feel like I just walked into a competition or maybe those 2 sites don’t get along…? I mean, I have no idea, I’m just trying to figure out why what I said seems to have offended you. There was no malice in my motivation.
lorac…I didn’t see any malice or ill intent in your suggestion. it came across as you simply wanting to be helpful. maybe susan doesn’t like the folks at hillbuzz. and I agree that Susan came across a little over-sensitive in her response. the attitude wasn’t necessary.
No! Not attacking you…. just pointing out that what I’m doing is very different, and I was hoping that someone would read it because it took me almost 3 hours to find all that material, and I really wanted some feedback for what i’d done!
PLUS I was SUPER tired when i wrote that, and it came out all wrong!
But, since you bring it up, I will tell you that i do hear a LOT from our other writers how SAD they are when people begin the first comment to their post with something completely off-topic to all the work they did to put that story together. It’s just a let-down. It really takes a lot of time, and digging, to find all this info, and we want so much to get feedback to what we’ve done, not what others are doing… and I hardly have time to get around to other blogs anyway. Wish i could!
As we all knew, Hillary working hard. So intelligent, so informed. Completely on top of her gig.
We was robbed. sigh.
Susan, thank you so much for keeping Hillary’s face and activities posted for us. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised the national media is doing it’s best to ignore her. It was so good to see John Lewis by her side again. There were two people in the primary campaign my heart broke for; Congressman Lewis and Stephanie Tubbs Jones. He is the only person who supported Hillary and later changed endorsement to Obama, I feel no anger toward. I was also impressed at the respect everyone there accorded her. That gives me hope that when the bloom has faded on Obama, they will turn to her in 2012. Thank you again.
Hey Ya’all
Just wanted to say adios. NQ has zapped my last 2/3rds posts for reasons that I can’t begin to imagine. My time is more valuable watching T.V. than it is spending lost effort typing my thoughts in a pointless attempt at providing an informed point of view. I wish you all well. I have to maximize my existense in this life,and when my carefully worked out thoughts get trashed for no apparent reason, I have to move on to more productive activities.
And I did write SusanUnPC about it, crickets!
Sorry to see you go Andrew. You have a naivete that was charming at times and you actually tried to debate ( although I always won ). Your problem is/was your research. You can’t site information from O’s website as reference because it is a fabrication.
Elise,
Thank you so much for providing a post that demonstrates the type of phenomenal stupidity that can’t possibly be penetrated by reason and fact, and validates my decision to move to a more intellectual blog. And yes, you kicked my ass in all of our arguments. Unfortunately, I have amnesia, so you’ll have to remind me WHAT DEBATES YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!!!
andrew, to which intellectual blog will you be moving? I really do like you, but you should take that chip off your shoulder. Sometimes people are so emotionally invested in politics or a particular politician, it is almost impossible to be objective. I am a liberal Democrat and I know there are those here at nq who dislike me for that even though they don’t know me personally. I keep coming back and reading the comments and try to respect other points of view and I’ve always found nq to be open to everyone except for extreme profanity or personal attacks which are over the top or threatening. There really are many very intelligent here and many of us have been caught in the spam filter for no good reason. It’s possible that’s what occurred with your comments. If anyone is banned for expressing an opinion and nothing more, I will leave here also because freedom of speech is something I cherish. I came here for Hillary and I stay for the information provided and conversation. Also, I don’t like or trust Obama and there aren’t many places which will print the truth about him. When I make a comment or respond, I know what I’m talking about and if I have a doubt, I reasearch. When someone comes back at me with a weak argument (ie UBM and Clinton fatigue), I know I’ve won. When someone responds by questioning my intellect, I know I’ve won.
Andrew, your comments have NOT been zapped. We are having trouble with our spam filter! But you don’t have an e-mail address listed, which is required so that I can reach you!
ANDREW! Let me look for your e-mail. I got about 200 today, and — for example — two of those e-mails alone took me about 2 hours to resolve. So I’m still way beyond getting to all the e-mails.
Can you send me your e-mail again? Taht would be a huge help!
Now that is class. And that’s how you run a government.You go Hillary!
Indian papers (as well as NYT and Wapo) are reporting that Pakistan admitted y’day that Mumbai terrorist act was planned on its soil. (Previously, it was saying the act was planned in India, Bangladesh, Dubai, Europe, etc). Indian papers said this admission came one day after Holbook visited and left Pakistan. He apparently gave a warning
“tell the truth or we will pull all the aid”.
Coming from Oz I am very disappointed that Secretary Clinton will not be including Australia in her forthcoming Asian tour. That probably means it will be some time before we will see her here. I wonder why this is so.
Wow, that interview w/HRC is very telling. What specially caught my eye is she saying in no uncertain terms her role vis a vis the special envoys, who had the idea, the people and how it’ll work:
I am really glad she explained these to the morons at the NYT and that other one called Dick Morris (who hate HRC to the extreme and had been publishing rumors and innuendo about HRC diminished role as SoS).
Thank you SusanUnPC for this wonderful post and for keeping us informed of her work. Very important indeed.
Dick Morris continues to bash Hillary and it’s really to the level of him being disturbed and unbalanced. He writes stuff that is completely made up — just to put it out there to continue whatever pesonal vendetta he seems to have against her (and Bill). The “information” is solely based on Dick’s twisted imagination and pure hatred for Hillary. The man needs some serious psychological counseling. He’s really quite sick.
I also found this interview informative and heartening. And yes, Andy, Dick Morris takes every chance he has to diminish in the Clintons in general and Hillary specifically. His article here:
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/02/10/hillarys-incredible-shrinking-role/#more-545
was typical fare.
Thanks for the article, Susan!
anyone can sign up for daily updates on Hillary’s movements and what is happening at the State Department. It’s the only part of the government I’m interested in right now.
Great post Susan.
Don’t know how you find the time - but it’s such a joy to get these glimpses of Hillary as SoS. Thanks for sharing.
Susn, thanks for the great update on Hillary. I also echo what tek said — I do get the State Department weekly updates, which includes Hillary’s complete schedule for the week. Also, I have a Google alert on Hillary, which gives me another excellent daily update (once you weed through some of the usual media garbage). There are some very enlightening and interesting articles out there about Hillary that are thoughtful and balanced — and are not generated by the MSM. My only interest in the new administration is foreign policy. Everything else is what it is.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to post in your forum. It was moving to watch Dr King and Gandhi’s memories . Ms Hillary Clinton was a touch above the ordinary, she had tremendous presence. However one thought that didn’t escape me even in the situation, I would like to share with you.
I have been visiting noquarter sometimes, particularly after an incident when statement on Dr King and President Johnson was interpreted as racist. Same about Bill Clinton being accused - Over the years I find it funny in the sex scandal in which he landed himself. Today he doesn’t inspire me, but Mr Clinton is one politician who would listen and is sensitive. He is sensitive.
Now how could public debate them and talk about Dr King and Gandhi ?
That makes one wonder if great people have become instruments of manipulation and instruments of convenience. What it means to be talking about Gandhi, Talking about Dr King ? I saw a recent book on Gandhi , and the insinuation on its cover itself seemed raged - Un-gandhian. That means the task at hand is more intense when one talks about inspiring people.
Of course I was moved by the feelings and expression of one member of the team in cultural trip to India.