How America passed the most costly bill ever totally blind
By Old Grumpy Guy on February 14, 2009 at 8:59 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Earmarks, Economic Stimulus, Emperor's Clothing Syndrome, Nancy Pelosi, TARP, stimulus tax package
In Uppity’s earlier piece on “You’ve Been Stimulated” she presents John Boehner’s video about the indecent speed with which the “stimulus package” was passed.
No doubt I will have the Obots screaming again about being partisan in siding with a Republican spokesman about the “stimulus package”, but GOP Congressional leader John Boehner raises a very important question:
How the hell can anyone have actually read all of the provisions in the 1,100 pages of the plan within the 12 hours before the House was called on to vote on it?
As Boehner points out, Congress voted for a bill that not a single representative had time to read before casting their votes.
The same, of course, goes for the Senate.
A manuscript of that size takes at least a week to read carefully, and even longer to digest before anyone can give a balanced judgment on its provisions. Even Tolstoy’s monumental opus “War and Peace” is shorter, and a lot easier to read and understand, yet even some of the most educated readers take at least a few days to finish reading this book.
What kind of democracy is it that will not allow its citizens to digest and understand a bill of this magnitude before it becomes law?
Of course the Obots will scream that, as the idiot Nancy Pelosi said, it was necessary to rush the bill through as quickly as possible to prevent any further decline in the economic situation.
What has happened, of course, is that a lot of socialist measures have been enacted behind a smokescreen of urgency, when the most important thing is not to rush into anything until all options have been carefully considered.
Careful consideration is the last thing this bill has enjoyed.
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BO is scheduled to sign this bill into ‘law’ on Tuesday, four days from now. So, what was the emergency that made passage essential on Friday, before Congress could even read what they needed to pass?
Yes, no doubt Sherrod Brown is THRILLED with this latest development that he needs to do more political Grandstanding and wasting so much more tax dollars to fly his ass to Colorado for another faux applause fest and Photo op. So early on. What, does he think everyone will forgive him and drop their draws for a 2nd shot with his upcoming plea for additional funds for the TARP funds?
I think we’d all rather join Dennis kucinich on a trip to Zircon and have an alien probe.
The emergency appeared to be that Nancy Pelosi was off to meet the Pope in Italy. So we got handed a Crap Sandwich because she had to jet off for vacation.
Well, even Obama was still declaring he wanted it on his desk Monday to sign, making Sherrod Brown have to leave his mothers wake, fly back to DC to sign his Stimulating Spending Bill and then have to fly back the morning of his mother’s funeral.
Really low.
And, I’m sure Sherrod will remember this.
Obama doesn’t care about the deaths of loved ones. Remember Grandma???
oh, true.
It never mattered what the bill said. This was all about giving the Democrats and That One a “victory” to crow about. We are so screwed. I have decided I will not vote for any Democrat who voted for this bill and didn’t read it (which is any of them). They put party before country. It’s one thing to really believe in a stimulus bill and vote for it, but just to vote for it without reading it and understanding what’s in it first, is dishonorable, unethical, not representing the people of America, and immoral – all for the sake of keeping their power and political pull with the Obama administration. How these people can look at themselves in the mirror every day is beyond my comprehension. Shame, shame, shame! and I’m a 30 year former Democrat who doesn’t recognize my once great party anymore.
“What kind of democracy is it that will not allow its citizens to digest and understand a bill of this magnitude before it becomes law?”
No kind of democracy. Pretense at best.
And don’t you love the way nearly a “trillion” dollars is minimized. Or referred to as “real” money. Call me provincial, but I thought a million sounded like a lot.
Welcome to Obamaland, the country of the blind and hopelessly entranced. Push the crisis, the urgency of pork [as Rev. Amy noted] and you get so-called representatives arguing that we “cannot afford to nothing,” so therefore we’ll do anything.
Disaster City.
It’s like throwing jello at the wall. Or a very pointed, deliberate political agenda.
The Democratic Party has sold its soul. And now they’ve sold ours. For upteem generations.
Personally? I’ll never forgive any of them, Dems or Repub’s who supported this bill.
Ever!!!
If you are going to have single payer health care for all Americans first you need to have more doctors, nurses, hospitals and testing facilities. 2 Billion will not give us a single payer system. It would cost 3 trillion.
You don’t insert a new health care system into a bill which nobody has read. It must be discussed with the American people. There is only one thing in this bill which has to do with health care and that’s to make sure to so dilute Medicare that it will no longer be insurance for Seniors. It will instead be used as a vehicle to keep seniors from getting health care.
This bill will be a failure of such monumental proportions even the media won’t be able to ignore
the damage this bill will cause.
Ditto: the point being is that it is NOT a democracy – not what kind of one…. it just isn’t one at all.
Unbelievalbe. You cannot vote for what you cannot see. Not even if it works. It makes no difference – nobody had any responsibility and couldn’t have had since you can’t be responsible for what you don’t know. You can only blindly move along in lockstep behind the idiot leading the parade and that’s the guy who doesn’t really know where he’s going.
They are called Congressional Staff, that is how any Senator or Congressperson learns about a bill. And yes you are a complete tool for quoting Bonner-guy.
Another bot trying to cover a limited intellect and vocabulary with pathetic insults.
And when did any congressional staffer have time to read those 1000 pages?
The fact is that is the most unethical use of a crisis for legislators to get their share of hometown pork and buy votes for their next election. But it is not anything that will stimulate the economy right now.
If you had any real knowledge of the matter, you would know how ridiculously naive your post sounds to think that the Congressional staff had received, reviewed, deciphered and disseminated the contents of this Pork Bill in so short of time. This must be your first year following politics, isn’t it?
Didn’t happen James – didn’t happen. And that is an indisputable fact of which I am personally aware.
Speaking of being a tool….what was your next bullet point from the talking points memo you must’ve received?
There is no difference between republicans rushing the patriot act thru and the bad dems rushing this bullshit bill thru. NONE.
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there’s one difference; a lot of dems voted for the patriot act. not too many repugs voted for the Ozero special interest pay-off bill. as always, dems caved, repugs didn’t, for better or worse.
I cant take any bot seriously, whether they be bushies or race card playing uhbama bots.
OGG, War And Peace (without the peace) is a perfect anaology for this bill, the congress and inhabitants of this once great country. Not reading what they sign is not something new in congress, however. They all pretty much vote the way their respective parties tell them to and “repent at leisure”. I’ve had this vision in my head for weeks now of the country divided along the lines of the old Mason Dixon except North to South instead of East to West, folks on either side screaming at each other it’s the Democrats fault, NO, NO! It’s the Republicans fault while both sides sink into a fault line or bog. Maybe I could suggest a toon for Pat? Our economy and our status in the world is self distructing and we are to blame because we perpetuate the partisan bickering.
This really isn’t about Democrat or Republican, but I do think that there are forces that are working to demonize the opposition in order to justify what will come next.
Anyone who disagrees with what is going is being characterized as Un-American, obstructionist, and bad. It will make it easier to do what they plan – the Fairness Doctrine is just one step in this. Silence anyone who disagrees – the Fairness Doctrine could not possibly be about bringing balance to the coverage, or it would include the networks and the newspapers that do nothing but slobber over anything Obama says or does. There are those that believe that this will never stand up in court, which is probably correct, but that isn’t the point — the point is to swarm the radio stations with lawsuits and complaints that must be fought, and thereby paralyze them into submission. Stations will be forced to change their formats, or pay the price through constant sabotage.
I’m not a Limbaugh fan, nor am I a fan of Hannity, etc. but I will defend their right to speak, as I would defend the rights of others. Sometimes, these people are the ONLY ones willing to tackle the information drought that we find ourselves in.
Beyond the fairness doctrine, I see much to worry about on the horizon. It is clear that our lawmakers, by and large, no longer believe that they must vote the conscience of their constituents, and this puts us in danger as a nation. It is just going to take one spark to ignite this into something really bad, and I am more afraid than I have ever been in my life.
Very well put Heather
It is pathetic that this bill was passed without any type of scrutiny. I supose that is what we should expect from all the other stimulus, tarp social security and health care reform bills that are waiting in the wings to make their entrance. We certainly saw the demonization of any opposition and the very bizarre claim that Obama was making an effort to be bipartisan. Is this what we call representative government?