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Rendition and “State Secrets”

And I don’t mean the movie. Well, yeah, I kinda do mean the movie, at least the theme of it. I received the following email from the ACLU the other day (and yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU. Have been for years.):

Dear ACLU Supporter,

Yesterday, ACLU lawyers encountered a recurring — and troubling — obstacle in our lawsuit seeking justice for torture victims caught up in the CIA’s extraordinary rendition program. But this time, the objections were not coming from the Bush administration.

To our surprise and disappointment, the new Justice Department urged a federal appeals court to dismiss our lawsuit charging a Boeing subsidiary with providing critical support for the CIA’s rendition program based on the same “state secrets” claim that the Bush administration had repeatedly invoked to avoid any judicial scrutiny of its actions. During the course of the argument, one judge asked twice if the change in administration had any bearing on the Justice Department’s position. The attorney for the government said that its position remained the same.

This isn’t the kind of change we need if we want an America we can be proud of again.

If the judges rule in the government’s favor, our clients — who were tortured as part of the government’s rendition program — will never get their day in court.

We’re still hoping the court will rule in our favor and allow our case to move forward. But, in the meantime, we must do everything we can to end the abuse of the “state secrets” doctrine both in the courts and on Capitol Hill.

Senators Kennedy, Leahy, Specter and Representative Nadler introduced legislation in 2008 to narrow the scope of the state secrets privilege — and open the courthouse doors to people who have suffered real and legitimate harm by the government. Clearly, this legislation is needed now more than ever.

Send a message to these members of Congress to let them know you support the State Secrets Protection Act.

This crucial civil liberties bill recognizes the need to take precautions when it comes to national security. But, it also acknowledges that courts have been competently managing the balance between the security of classified information and the right to a fair trial in criminal cases for years. And, most important of all, it makes it much more difficult for the government to abuse the state secrets doctrine to escape accountability for illegal behavior.

We can’t allow any administration to invoke state secrets to hide a reprehensible history of torture, rendition and the most grievous human rights violations.

Send a message to support the State Secrets Protection Act.

Yesterday, the Obama administration had an opportunity to act on its condemnation of torture and rendition. But, instead, the Justice Department opted to stay the course.

Now, we must hope that the court will assert its independence, reject the government’s false claims of state secrets, and allow victims of torture and rendition their day in court.

Thanks for standing with us as we work to pursue justice on this critical civil liberties issue.

Sincerely,

Anthony D. Romero
Executive Director
ACLU

P.S. The ACLU has been working on this case for years. To learn more about rendition and the people impacted, watch our short video:

Yes - “disappointment” - that is exactly the word I would have chosen to convey my outrage that, once again, Obama reneged on a MAJOR campaign promise. Just like the “disappointment” people in my family felt when Obama voted for FISA, after promising to filibuster it and ensure it did NOT pass. No reason for him to have voted for it - Clinton sure didn’t. Heck, even McCain didn’t. But Obama? Oh, yeah - he threw that campaign promise away like yesterday’s garbage. I can only assume it was because he wanted to make sure he got to have ALL the same abilities to spy on us and sneak people away in the dead of night that Bush had. How else to explain his readiness to do a 180 on something so important? Oh, besides his being a liar, that is. Ahem.

And the NY Times finally weighed in on this, too (you know this happened earlier in the week. You may not have known because the MSM is continuing its pathetic journalism when it comes to Obama - protect and divert.), in an Editorial entitled, “Continuity of the Wrong Kind.” Ya know, I have been saying for months and months and months that Obama was another Bush. Nice of him to prove me right, isn’t it? Though, for the sake of the COUNTRY, I would have been happier to be proved wrong…

Apparently, the Editors at the Times feel similarly:

The Obama administration failed — miserably — the first test of its commitment to ditching the extravagant legal claims used by the Bush administration to try to impose blanket secrecy on anti-terrorism policies and avoid accountability for serial abuses of the law.

On Monday, a Justice Department lawyer dispatched by the new attorney general, Eric Holder, appeared before a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco. The case before them involves serious allegations of torture by five victims of President Bush’s extraordinary rendition program. The five were seized and transported to American facilities abroad or to countries known for torturing prisoners.

Incredibly, the federal lawyer advanced the same expansive state-secrets argument that was pressed by Mr. Bush’s lawyers to get a trial court to dismiss the case without any evidence being presented. It was as if last month’s inauguration had never occurred.

Voters have good reason to feel betrayed if they took Mr. Obama seriously on the campaign trail when he criticized the Bush administration’s tactic of stretching the state-secrets privilege to get lawsuits tossed out of court. Even judges on the panel seemed surprised by the administration’s decision to go forward instead of requesting a delay to reconsider the government’s position and, perhaps, file new briefs.

And not to harp, but honestly - if the people who voted for Obama really, really believed he was a man of his word, it is their own fault. He made it abundantly clear, time and time again, that he would say or do whatever needed to be said or done, to get what he wanted. They just refused to believe their own eyes and ears.

Back to the editorial:

The argument is that the very subject matter of the suit is a state secret so sensitive that it cannot be discussed in court, and it is no more persuasive now than it was when the Bush team pioneered it. For one thing, there is ample public information available about the C.I.A.’s rendition, detention and coercive interrogation programs. The fact that some of the evidence might be legitimately excluded on national security grounds need not preclude the case from being tried, and allowing the judge to make that determination. More fundamentally, the Obama administration should not be invoking state secrets to cover up charges of rendition and torture.

President Obama has taken some important steps to repair Mr. Bush’s damaging legacy — issuing executive orders to prohibit torture, shut secret prisons overseas and direct closure of the detention camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. It would have been good if he and Mr. Holder had shown the same determination in that federal court, rather than defending the indefensible.

Um - do they realize Obama hasn’t actually CLOSED Gitmo?? I’m just asking, because they seem to think it is a done deal. And given their frustration over Obama’s actions in this very piece, WHY would they think that? It just defies logic! Sheesh!

And I do have a question - if the CIA can still carry out rendition, how is it that the secret prisons are shut down? I mean, isn’t that just mincing words? Seriously, that seems a bit counter-intuitive to me.

How many times, and in how many ways, does Obama have to repudiate his campaign promises before the MSM and his followers stop carrying water for him? After three weeks, it is just laughable. Or it WOULD be if this wasn’t such a serious issue. One widely decried when Bush did it. So where the hell are all the folks who screamed about it then? Sure would love to know. Maybe they have changed their minds now that Obama wants to do it, because obviously, if The One wants it, it has to be A-okay, right? Right?

Wrong. It just makes them hypocrites.

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Comment by The Real HC | 2009-02-14 09:40:24

“isn’t that just mincing words?”

Get used to it, thats all the man does. And it works. All Obama has to do is say something and apparently the bulk of Americans think it has already happened. Look that woman on TV got a house, didnt she? The Obama is truly a miracle.

Comment by Dawnelle | 2009-02-14 09:57:07

I heard it was a Republican in her district that gave her the house. (that should be embarrassing to MOST D’s)

Maybe it was propaganda.

Hey I’d love a house. Ya think he’d give one to me?
:-/

Comment by Animal Control | 2009-02-14 10:06:48

You mean like scratching his cheek.
Just kidding

 

Comment by sandi78 | 2009-02-14 10:50:47

It was a Republican State Representative, whose name I don’t recall now. It had nothing at all to do with Oblahblah. However, if you look more closely at the woman’s background, you’ll find that she and her famiy had been offered all kinds of help which they turned down. But how much of that did we hear in the msm? All we get is that the lord kissed her and all was well.

 
 
 

Comment by Sonic Ninja Kitty | 2009-02-14 10:37:25

Great information, Amy. It’s quite complex and largely ignored by the MSM so you shedding light on it is much appreciated.

And all this is going on while there is talk about whether the Obama administration should bring criminal charges against Bush. How could Obama do that if he basically follows the same idealogical pathways?

 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2009-02-14 10:41:53

oX:-)

not sure what that means but I’ll take your word that it’s some kind of joke too.

that was not a reference to Peter was it? I thought he kissed Jesus on the cheek not scratched it or were you talking about O’Drag faking the cheek scratch and really flippin a bird?

we are overwhelmed with examples of his bad ideas, choices, thoughts, dreams and mental warped non-sensibilities

where to start

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-02-14 10:45:10

The bigger problem with him copying Bush, is that he has a chip on his shoulder bigger than Illinois and most folks who are just mere copies of someone else that have such huge chips (that he can’t dust off) on their shoulders is their need to constantly out do their predecessor. He is doing Bush’s bad decisions and policy with a ONE UPS-MANSHIP.

Growing government. Spending taxpayers dollars for your donors and special interests. Say one thing, do another. Faith Based iniatives. VERY PARTISAN. Very divisive. And the list goes on.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-02-14 11:21:56

Excellent point, I’m A Linda too. He DOES have a chip on his shoulder, and he is so much more unprepared for this role than Bush was even (can’t believe I’m saying that). Heck, at least Bush had an idea the scope of work since his dad was in there, but Obama just seems completely clueless. Hence his need to run away from the WH as much as possible, including plans to go to Chicago frequently.

Remember how we razzed Bush for taking so many vacations? I imagine the left will be silent on that comparison, too, just like everything else

And Sassy, I hear ya - I am certain we haven’t the foggiest how much stuff our gov’t is doing behind our backs…

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-02-14 11:39:11

So true. There are just too many comparisons, but scariest is that he is starting out MUCH EARLIER WITH ALL THE F*CK UPS.

He also hit the Road Tour meme much earlier than W ever did, too. Also. remember when the “left” called it Bush’s Cheerleading that he was best at, he’s doing again. Well, IF THAT SHOE FITS, OBAMA.

Yesterday I was exchanging some emails with a friend, and we are in very different areas, east vs sw and we both had a realization that Bush was doing much better and started off much better than this guy who kept comparing himself to being better than what we had these past 8 years.

Comment by Strawberry | 2009-02-14 12:41:02

RRRA and Linda, I was just having this very conversation last night with a group of friends. It’s like Obama just can’t get it out of first gear. You KNOW when we as Democrats start looking back at W as more competant than what we have now…we are in deep doo doo. And Yes RRRAmy, I’m a card carrying AND STILL PROUD member of the ACLU as well.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Sassy | 2009-02-14 10:51:38

Good report Amy!
I am old enough to remember many past incidents that left me less than proud of this country.
I am worldly enough to know that we will never know everything that our government does.
I am cynical enough to doubt that any one party is more honorable than the other.
John McCain earned my trust…but warriors like him are rare!

 

Comment by JulieD | 2009-02-14 11:28:39

Right on RRRA! The government is allegedly FOR US, not the other way around.

These hypocrites in BO’s administration who claim it’s patriotic to pay taxes and … don’t.

The ACLU has frequently chosen to squander its resources to the point of being a joke, but I’m glad it’s there to make a point in worthwhile cases.

Rendition. What the hell could be more important?!

Oh, yeah. FISA. But the kiddies and dopers LOVE PBO!

Wait until they’re all busted for drugs due to BIG BRO eavesdropping. How will they worship him in stir without texting?

The ACLU will probably sue over that too.

 

Comment by bert | 2009-02-14 11:51:48

Great and very important post RRRA. So much for change, right? But then we knew there would be none.

The rendition program must stop and Obama should have sent Justice Department lawyers to court to begin that process.

Another thing that has me upset is that to date he has not even begun to bring back habeous corpus. That is a crucial right of American citizens that must be restored. If I had been elected President I would have taken the steps necessary to do that first thing after taking the oath of office. And I would have announced that fact from the podium in my speech.

I guess he prefers to hold town meetings where he can be adored by fawning fans.

I want my American citizen’s rights back, and I want them NOW!!!!! I am not a patient person.

 

Comment by Screw-The-DNC | 2009-02-14 12:18:22

Thanks for shining a spotlight on the horrible continuation of the Bush administration policies.

Why ANY thinking adult thinks this man offers substantive change is beyond me. The only thing I trust him to change is his mind - to whatever position is the most politically expedient at the moment.

So glad MEEchelle is finally proud of her country. I continue to be horrified and embarrassed.

 

Comment by Andy | 2009-02-14 13:02:45

And not to harp, but honestly - if the people who voted for Obama really, really believed he was a man of his word, it is their own fault. He made it abundantly clear, time and time again, that he would say or do whatever needed to be said or done, to get what he wanted. They just refused to believe their own eyes and ears.

Exactly RRRAmy: well put!! And that includes the NYT. As you say; don’t they understand GITMO has yet closed? Why can’t they express the “executive order” for what it is?

Thanks for this post Amy, very important indeed.

 

Comment by Cahil | 2009-02-14 13:52:52

How anyone would expect this jack… to do anything right is amazing. This is the man who, at a time of national crisis, thought it more important to spend millions on inaugural parties than anyone before him than to lead by example and say save the money.

Hypocrite is too nice a word for this sham.

 

Comment by Linda Anselmi | 2009-02-14 18:47:26

Dumb me, but I was more than a little surprised at how political the ACLU was in champion Obama during the election. I just assumed (I guess incorrectly) that they dealt with civil rights in a non partisan fashion. Tough stance no mater the party or person.

 

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