Comments on: On being an outsider http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:08:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: kat in your hat http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143654 kat in your hat Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:49:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143654 F. Scott Fitzgerald and D.H. Lawrence both died at 44 years old. geesh. F. Scott Fitzgerald and D.H. Lawrence both died at 44 years old. geesh.

]]> By: kat in your hat http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143645 kat in your hat Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:29:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143645 Oh, well, it's not so much a countdown as it is a great list. I see I missed F. Scott Fitzgerald...will go to youtube now. :) Oh, well, it’s not so much a countdown as it is a great list. I see I missed F. Scott Fitzgerald…will go to youtube now. :)

]]> By: kat in your hat http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143643 kat in your hat Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:26:16 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143643 Oh, thank you so much for doing a "Great Writers" countdown!! I love watching these! Oh, thank you so much for doing a “Great Writers” countdown!! I love watching these!

]]> By: OldGrumpyGuy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143070 OldGrumpyGuy Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:32:29 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143070 Ah, the long pause indeed...before the second wave Ah, the long pause indeed…before the second wave

]]> By: chezmadame http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143065 chezmadame Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:29:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143065 Well at least apparently some people have an interest and an inkling. "Even the sun and the moon are fucked into being, but it takes patience and the long pause." Thank you for culling beautiful memories this morning. Well at least apparently some people have an interest and an inkling.

“Even the sun and the moon are fucked into being, but it takes patience and the long pause.”

Thank you for culling beautiful memories this morning.

]]> By: OldGrumpyGuy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143002 OldGrumpyGuy Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:45:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143002 <blockquote>oh, but the man understood primal truth.</blockquote> How many people these days understand primal truth?

oh, but the man understood primal truth.

How many people these days understand primal truth?

]]> By: OldGrumpyGuy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1143001 OldGrumpyGuy Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:44:11 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1143001 Conrad I think has been overrated. His most well known work "Heart of Darkness" provides interesting metaphors (and Coppola did a good job of milking it in "Apacolypse Now") but I would never describe it as a great work. I have never been able to get into Virginia Woolf, and my feeling (from an attempt at reading To The Lighthouse) is that Virginia Woolf herself was never really able to get into Virginia Woolf. I enjoyed reading her biography however, and those of the other Bloomsburyites. I tried reading Joyce's Ulysses but got bored. Conrad I think has been overrated. His most well known work “Heart of Darkness” provides interesting metaphors (and Coppola did a good job of milking it in “Apacolypse Now”) but I would never describe it as a great work. I have never been able to get into Virginia Woolf, and my feeling (from an attempt at reading To The Lighthouse) is that Virginia Woolf herself was never really able to get into Virginia Woolf. I enjoyed reading her biography however, and those of the other Bloomsburyites. I tried reading Joyce’s Ulysses but got bored.

]]> By: chezmadame http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142917 chezmadame Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:34:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142917 I've always found Lawrence's style hypnotic, the way it swirls back upon itself with subtle variation of seminal words and phrases. I guess my profs thought that too many emotions were "inchoate", too many images "fecund".It's funny how I can pull those wods out of my memory 30 years later. I was in constant defensive mode in graduate school because of my admiration for DHL. It was not so much that he was considered a second rate writer, as much as he was considered a second class writer. Not on the same level as Joyce or Woolf or Conrad. "We fucked a flame into being..." Oh, but the man understood primal truth. I’ve always found Lawrence’s style hypnotic, the way it swirls back upon itself with subtle variation of seminal words and phrases.

I guess my profs thought that too many emotions were “inchoate”, too many images “fecund”.It’s funny how I can pull those wods out of my memory 30 years later.

I was in constant defensive mode in graduate school because of my admiration for DHL. It was not so much that he was considered a second rate writer, as much as he was considered a second class writer. Not on the same level as Joyce or Woolf or Conrad.

“We fucked a flame into being…” Oh, but the man understood primal truth.

]]> By: OldGrumpyGuy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142902 OldGrumpyGuy Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:13:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142902 Repetitive style? I never noticed. Today anything repetitive would be called minimalist and be lauded by the academics Repetitive style? I never noticed. Today anything repetitive would be called minimalist and be lauded by the academics

]]> By: chezmadame http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142894 chezmadame Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:59:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142894 I was scoffed at by my professors when I wanted to do my thesis on D.H. Lawrence. He was dismissed for his repetetive style. I think the truth was that some buttoned-down academics were scared by his themes. I wrote it anyway: Dialect and Dialectics in <em>Lady Chatterley's Lover.</em> Thirty years later, I'm still proud of that piece of writing. Great analysis Professor Grumpy. I was scoffed at by my professors when I wanted to do my thesis on D.H. Lawrence. He was dismissed for his repetetive style. I think the truth was that some buttoned-down academics were scared by his themes.

I wrote it anyway: Dialect and Dialectics in Lady Chatterley’s Lover.

Thirty years later, I’m still proud of that piece of writing.

Great analysis Professor Grumpy.

]]> By: JulieD http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142798 JulieD Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:12:39 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142798 Another one out of the park OGG! Thanks for bringing some beauty into my life tonight. I'm sorry that you had to move so often as a child. That had to be difficult. You may have been poor, but you have good taste. Happy Presidents' Day! Another one out of the park OGG! Thanks for bringing some beauty into my life tonight.

I’m sorry that you had to move so often as a child. That had to be difficult. You may have been poor, but you have good taste.

Happy Presidents’ Day!

]]> By: elise http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142786 elise Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:22:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142786 I read Lady Chatterley's Lover because it was banned, but thought it was a beautiful novel. You didn't mention The Plumed Serpent, OGG. I believe he wrote it while living in Mexico (San Miguel de Allende?). I love it, but rarely hear anyone mention it when speaking of his writings. Have you read it and what do you think? I read Lady Chatterley’s Lover because it was banned, but thought it was a beautiful novel. You didn’t mention The Plumed Serpent, OGG. I believe he wrote it while living in Mexico (San Miguel de Allende?). I love it, but rarely hear anyone mention it when speaking of his writings. Have you read it and what do you think?

]]> By: OldGrumpyGuy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142773 OldGrumpyGuy Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:09:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142773 I think he would have enjoyed the Sixties before it became druggy and cliquey. I don't think he would be too happy with the way things are now, with the decline of western culture I think he would have enjoyed the Sixties before it became druggy and cliquey. I don’t think he would be too happy with the way things are now, with the decline of western culture

]]> By: TexasMirth http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142771 TexasMirth Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:00:22 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142771 OGG, this was a wonderful post! Lawrence's "The Rocking Horse Winner" haunted me for the longest time. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie clips you included. Often when watching the crowds woo and swoon over Obama, I, too, feel like an outsider. Their group-think baffles me. OGG, this was a wonderful post! Lawrence’s “The Rocking Horse Winner” haunted me for the longest time. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie clips you included. Often when watching the crowds woo and swoon over Obama, I, too, feel like an outsider. Their group-think baffles me.

]]> By: trixta http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/15/on-being-an-outsider/#comment-1142752 trixta Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:04:54 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14370#comment-1142752 Okay, now you all have me curious about Michael Nyland. Must look him up.... Okay, now you all have me curious about Michael Nyland. Must look him up….

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