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SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT BROKE

As with so many of his positions, Obama’s stance on Social Security has ‘evolved.’ In September of 2008, Slate’s Peter Bray asked, why did Obama delete the following from his on-line position paper on Social Security:

“[Obama] does not believe it is necessary or fair to hard working seniors to raise the retirement age.”

POOF. Gone from his website. The astute readers here at No Quarter know that was not an anomaly. Things were always mysteriously disappearing from his website.

And it doesn’t make any difference what he says anyway. What he says and what he does are two different things. FISA anyone???

Many of Obama’s economic advisors are not strong proponents of Social Security or even health care, for that matter.

Single-payer health insurance violates Austin Goolsbee’ free market philosophy. David Cutter believes high health costs are good for the economy. And Jeffrey Liebman favors privatization of social security.

If you wnat to make sure an on-going Social Security benefit will be there for you when you retire, you need to read this, because Social Security is not broke.

I am going to make a caveat right from the start. I am writing this post from the perspective that a fairly healthy economy exists. We have competent economists saying we are in a recession, or a depression, or a complete meltdown, and that hyper inflation is just days away. I do not have a degree in economics, so I do not know for sure what we are in. I do know that the economy is on very shaky ground and that a deepening recession or outright depression, even hyper-inflation may be on the horizon.

If any of these dire predictions occur then certainly they will affect the Social Security system, as it would affect every government and every private entity and every citizen in America. I have not found any articles or research that deals with how a worsening economy will affect Social Security. Maybe some of the economic gurus who write for NQ can help us out there.

Good economy or bad, I would affirm that Social Security has survived for 74 years through wars, through ups and downs in the economy, and through other recessions. The Social Security program was born in the Great Depression yet it managed to grow and help hundreds of thousand of retired people in the last years of that depression stay out of the poorhouse and live with dignity.

The system also managed to stay afloat and grow both during and in the years right after World War II when the deficit in this country was at the highest level ever in our history. (Obama’s current hysteria and fear mongering not withstanding.)

Take a look at the chart below.

Source: Zfacts.com

As you can see from this chart, our national debt after WW II was 90% of GDP. That is the highest it has EVER been. During the administrations of Presidents Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, and Carter that percentage decreased nearly every year. We paid off that WW II debt. Under Reagan and Bush I our national debt as a percentage of GDP began a precipitous rise. It came down some what in Clinton’s administration, but rose again during Bush II’s term of office.

Debt today is 70% of GDP. That is 20% lower than right after WW II.

I point this out only to say that Social Security managed to successfully do its job when we had a larger debt than we do right now. And Social Security did not go bankrupt then. Today is certainly a challenge. But we as a nation we have met and exceeded other challenges far worse. I believe we can do so again now.

Having said that – is Social Security broke?

In a word, NO.

Let’s examine this by looking at some basic facts. Below is a Social Security clock from zFacts website:


Which One Has the Crisis ?!

Source: Zfacts.com.

From this clock you can see that the Social Security Trust Fund is very healthy. In fact, it is healthier than the U.S. Treasury. If this is true than why are so many politicians telling us otherwise? Because in Washington D.C.today the Social Security system is where the money is.

According to History News Network (HNN) in an article titled, “How Historians Can Help Frame the Next Social Security Debate,” by Larry De Witt:

“The Social Security program is the largest single function in the federal government’s budget (accounting for about one-quarter of all expenditures.) “Indeed, the annual budget of the Social Security system is larger than the gross domestic product of all but about the dozen richest nations of the world.”

Economists and Other Groups Agree – Social Security is Not Broke

1. Renowned economist Dr. Irwin Keller, chief economist for Capital One Bank and at the leading financial website MarketWatch.com, and Distinguished Scholar of Economics at Dowling College, stated in an article titled:

“Why Social Security Isn’t Going broke,” April, 2008,“ Reports that the Social Security system will soon run out of money have been greatly exaggerated.”

“Although flush with cash now and over at least the next 10 years, the Social Security system is expected to gradually begin paying out more in benefits than it takes in from payroll taxes with the result that by 2041 its assets, in the words of the trustees, will be exhausted……..”

“……… Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office, which makes these projections as well, recently thought the system will remain solvent until at least 2052.”

The long and the short of his analysis and arguments are that the Social Security trustees make not just one, but three separate predictions. There is a low cost, an intermediate cost, and a high cost. Each of these projections reflect the “trustees’ consensus views regarding such inputs as economic growth, productivity, inflation, earnings, employment and interest rates.”

The alarms are raised by the intermediate projection and that projection, and only that projection, is what is reported by the press.

Quoting Dr. Keller again,

“Guess what? Under the actuaries’ low cost projection, the Social Security system never runs out of money!”

You can read the rest of Dr. Keller’s article here:

2. Mark Weisbrot, and Dean Baker, co-directors of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, in Washington, D.C., wrote a book entitled Social Security: The Phony Crisis (University of Chicago Press, 2000.) About their book Weisbrot states on his website:

“We showed that there was no financial, economic, actuarial, or other reason to be worried about the future of Social Security. The whole idea that Social Security would run into trouble when the baby boomers retire was an urban legend — and still is.

“Among others, The Economist — a conservative British magazine — reviewed the book and agreed. In fact no one dared challenge what we wrote. How could they? The numbers we used were the same that everyone — including the current campaign of President George W. Bush — uses. They are straight from the Social Security Trustees’ annual report.”

You can read the rest of his article here.

3. The American Association of Retired People (AARP) agrees that Social Security is not broke. Their website clearly states:

“Social Security is not going broke. It can pay 100% of promised benefits until 2040. After that, without any changes, incoming revenues will be enough to pay more than 70% of benefits for decades to come. This isn’t good enough — getting 70% wouldn’t be fair for today’s retirees and it certainly isn’t fair for tomorrow’s. AARP is in favor of strengthening Social Security so that it continues to pay full benefits to our children and grandchildren. “ [Emphasis mine]

You can see the entire statement here.

4. Over at The Economists Voice, a website published by The Berkeley Electronic Press, Barbara R. Bergmann, of the University of Maryland and American University answers the question, could social security go broke this way:

“The public is anxious because it has often been told that Social Security will “run out of money around 2042″, that it “won’t be there for our young people,” that it will “go bankrupt.” In truth, our Social Security system will never “go bankrupt.” Businesses or individuals can go bankrupt when they are legally obligated to make payments, but don’t have enough money coming in to make them, and no way to increase that inflow of money. A U.S. government program like Social Security is in an entirely different situation. Social Security gets the money it needs to make benefit payments from taxes. If Social Security taxes and benefits get out of balance, either or both can be adjusted by our democratic processes.”

You can view the entire article here.

5. AFSCME answers the question is Social Security Going Broke with a resounding, “No.”

“Reports of Social Security’s imminent demise have been vastly overstated. Even if no changes are made, Social Security will continue to pay full benefits, on time, until 2040. After that, the system will have a 25 percent shortfall, not empty coffers. In fact, as long as the Social Security payroll tax continues (6.2 percent of wages, paid by both the employer and employee), the system can never go broke. The challenge for Social Security is to ensure that 100 percent of benefit obligations are paid far into the future.”

You can see their entire article here.

6. The Los Angeles Times, Robert Scheer, and Paul Krugman have all weighed in and said that Social Security is not broke.

Well if all of these eminent economists, thinkers, scholars and editorialists think the system is not broke, why do I keep hearing so much about Social Security being broke? And why do I keep reading about privatization?

Good questions.

The answer lies in something I wrote a few paragraphs back: The Social Security system is where the money is. $$$$$$$$$$$$

And we will answer those questions in Part 2 of is Social Security Broke?

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Comment by James | 2009-02-18 18:25:16

Fascinating. Thanks for the info bert. I had no idea.

 

Comment by lizzy | 2009-02-18 19:00:56

The thought of these Obama clowns adjusting anything about Social Security induces absolute panic. They are so completely untrustworthy that I cringe at such an idea. Thanks for debunking the myth.

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 19:36:58

I’m with you, lizzy. Obama scares me on this and so many other issues.

 
 

Comment by C.S. | 2009-02-18 19:08:22

I have been pointing this out since GWB began to echo Reagan’s “social-security-is-broke mantra.

My two points that got people thinking is where did all the money paid in by the largest generation this country has ever seen go to? And, babyboomers, who have been paying in for almost half a century are just now beginning to retire so they haven’t “broken” the system. If it isn’t there, then someone (not recipients) has stolen all our money.

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 19:39:12

The money is in the Tust Fund,C.S. It is there. Social Security is not broke.

Comment by TexasBuckeye | 2009-02-18 20:21:59

Technically, there is no real money in the trust fund. It’s a set of IOUs from the U.S. Treasury.

“In reality, the Trust Fund’s holdings simply measure that one part of the government–the Treasury–owes money to another part of the government–the Social Security Trust Fund. Indeed, the best possible interpretation of the Trust Fund is that the IOUs are a measure of how much taxes will have to be raised in the future.”

 
 
 

Comment by TexasBuckeye | 2009-02-18 19:19:40

Except that …

The Social Security Trust Fund actually contains no genuine assets, only government bonds–IOUs that have no value beyond a promise to impose higher taxes on future workers. The IOUs are claims on the Treasury, that, when redeemed, will have to be financed by raising taxes, borrowing from the public, or reducing benefits or other expenditures.

Comment by TexasBuckeye | 2009-02-18 19:28:08

And …

Surplus Social Security revenues are collected by the Treasury and spent on other government programs. In exchange, the Treasury issues an IOU to the Social Security Trust Fund. In theory, this IOU will earn interest until it is cashed in to help pay retirement benefits. These IOUs, combined with the taxes that are paid into the system every year, supposedly mean that the Trust Fund will be able to fully finance benefits through 2032+.

The bonds held by the Social Security Trust Fund are meaningless. The Congressional Research Service (CRS) notes that “Simply put, the trust funds do not reflect an independent store of money for the program or the government….” What, then, is the purpose of the Trust Fund? According to the Congressional Budget Office, “Trust Funds have no particular economic significance; they function primarily as accounting mechanisms to track receipts and spending for programs that have specific taxes or other revenues earmarked for their use.”

 

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 19:43:46

Well, that is not exactly true, Texas Buckeye.

The national debt is borrowed from many sources and always has been. Once borrowed the money is spent—that’s the point of it. But the U.S. government has always honored its debts and is still the safest investment.

Comment by TexasBuckeye | 2009-02-18 20:01:33

There is no real trust fund full of money sitting there as people seem to think. That’s the only point I want to make.

Some would argue that Social Security is similar to check kiting or ponzi schemes – using money coming in to pay people you already owe and gambling that enough money will come in to continue the scheme.

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-02-18 20:04:30

Some would argue that Social Security is similar to check kiting or ponzi schemes – using money coming in to pay people you already owe and gambling that enough money will come in to continue the scheme.

That is true only because of the use of those funds for purposes for which it was never intended and because of its use as a slush fund to make up for large deficits by administrations both Republican and Democratic. Had the fund been left alone, such would not be the case.

 

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 20:26:28

Bush and Cheney said that in 2005. Said the Trust Fund was just IOU’s and paper, not cash. They said there was no money in the trust fund.

This is what zFacts.com had to say about that:

Hey, wait a minute!
• What about the Federal Pension Trust Fund? It’s just the same—all $800 billion of it. You mean there are no military pensions?!
• What about the $280 billion in Medicare Trusts—are those fake?
• And, the highway trust and all other government trusts? $3.1 trillion all told.

And what’s their problem with “paper”? A thousand dollar bill is paper, the check I write, my stock certificate, my government bond—all paper. Did they expect the trust would be made of diamonds?

What of the millions of Americans who own Treasury bonds, all paper? Seven trillion dollars of national debt has been spent on government programs, and there is “nothing left.” Has the US of A defrauded the world of $7 trillion?

When you put money in the bank you get paper, and they lend your money to someone who spends it. Your cash does not stay in the bank

Neither is the SS Administration gambling away the money. That would be privatization of SS monies. Based on all the crooks, schemers, and ponzi schemes on Wall Street these days – now that is a gamble.

Comment by TexasBuckeye | 2009-02-18 21:00:17

Exactly …

“The SS Trust Funds, and all federal trust funds, are merely an accounting entry on the Treasury’s balance sheet representing money that has been collected in taxes but not yet spent for the purpose prescribed by law. But the dark secret that nobody in Washington will admit is that all federal trust funds, whether for SS or Medicare or Interstate Highways, are a financial fraud, an act of fiscal criminality perpetrated on the American taxpayer by both political parties.

By law, no private company can invest pension funds in its own debt, but it’s okay for Uncle Sam to steal surplus SS payroll contributions, gasoline taxes or any dedicated tax where funds raised in a given year are not immediately spent. Thanks to the duplicity of FDR, when Americans make SS contributions, many believe that they are saving money for their future retirement. But the reality is that, because today’s surpluses are “invested” in the Treasury’s own debt, the Treasury’s ability to make SS payments in the future is entirely dependent on its ability to borrow in the markets and/or tax future generations.”

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by karen | 2009-02-18 19:23:21

So are you saying they want us to believe it’s broke so that they can steal the money and use ir for whatever they want????

Comment by TexasBuckeye | 2009-02-18 21:05:17

They’ve already stolen the money and replaced it with non-marketable IOUs. There isn’t a big SS savings account sitting in Washington. The money was spent before it came in and will continue to do so. That said, privatizing SS is as risky as what we have now.

 

Comment by bert | 2009-02-19 07:56:34

Karen, they are saying it is broke so that they can raid and steal the monies to give to themselves and their Wall Street buddies.

They say the fund is just paper and is broke, yet they plan to spend it on the stock market and broker fees when the system is privatized.

How can they say the system is broke and has no money and then want that money in a very bad way?

That is the tip off that the “broke” meme is phony. Why would they want to divert “just paper?” It is not just paper. It is real money.

 
 

Comment by cheech (or maybe chong) | 2009-02-18 19:30:47

What do we notice about the times when the line on that graph turns red and climbs steeply?

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 19:52:01

 
 

Comment by yttik | 2009-02-18 19:32:18

Social security is not broke.

Ironically a woman just caught me staring glassy eyed at her bumper sticker that said, “Save Social Security, Vote Obama!” I hope she doesn’t come to regret it.

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-02-18 20:06:30

Wow. She must have been one of those left behind.

 
 

Comment by SalG | 2009-02-18 19:42:51

Another thing that is preventing the flow of funds into the system is “contract workers” and people being paid under the table. The SSNs/TINs of contract workers do not need to be verified. The contractor issues a 1099 at the end of the year. If the numbers don’t match, IRS sends a letter. By that time, the contract worker is gone and no further action is taken. I’m willing to wager that few of these contract workers file a self-employment tax return and pay the SS/HI tax. Then there are the people who just get paid cash because that’s what everbody wants and no taxes are collected there either. I wonder if there are any stats available on these two groups. I think when there were more employers who offered pensions, health insurance, and other benefits there was less of this.

IRS has definite rules on what constitutes an employer-employee relationships, and one can ask for a personal ruling if unsure. It is just easier and cheaper for people to work as non-employees so to speak.

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 19:50:38

I am a self-employed independent contractor, and I can tell you from personal experience that the IRS knows what you make. And they hound you for every penny. Taxes have to be paid quarterly, and if you do not correctly estimate what you make and send in the tax, they penalize you. Last year I was penalized $11.00. Tom Daschle does not pay his taxes, but a small middle class worker gets hounded for $11.00!!!!

In addition, contract workers not only have to contribute thier individual share to SS, they have to pay the employer’s share as well.

The cash market may be a problem. I have not seen anything in the research about that. Yet.

 
 

Comment by SalG | 2009-02-18 19:46:51

By the way the SSA Office of the Actuary has a website with all the plans that have been proposed concerning solvency.

Link:
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/solvency/index.html

 

Comment by Calypso | 2009-02-18 19:55:37

Social Security monies in the Trust Fund are invested in U.S. Treasury bonds. The same bonds that other investors invest in such as China.

Would our government officials ever DARE to say to China these bonds are worthless, of course not.

However they will, and have many times told us citizens that OUR Trust Fund has been spent (remember GW saying that very thing) and is gone, worthless and never tell us the funds are INVESTED.

Despise them ALL….everyone of those lying SOB’s who now control our government and think we citizens are a bottomless hole of funding for themselves and their friends.

Comment by bert | 2009-02-18 20:30:51

Great points all, Calypso.

However they will, and have many times told us citizens that OUR Trust Fund has been spent…..

As you know, but so many don’t, that is exactly how you know they are lying, becasue they would never tell China that. And so you know there are ulterior motives.

 
 

Comment by Andy | 2009-02-18 20:19:42

Excellent investigative piece bert. Thank you so much. This is so important; everyone should know about it and pay a lot of attention to what is being said
about SS and Medicare.

I have heard Obama & his inner circle ramblings about SS and I am convinced he will push for privatization… I have feared this since before the election…

Thanks again. Great post !

 

Comment by harper | 2009-02-18 20:49:37

while SS may be solvent and keep paying in the future (under any number of assumptions that may/may not be realistic), I wonder about the purchasing power of those benefits in the future. Given the trillions of $$$ circulating with all the bailouts, if we have high inflation later the value of those benefits may not be enough to sustain people above poverty.

 

Comment by Aaron | 2009-02-18 21:48:10

The reason why they want to identify SS as a problem is that Congress spends the yearly SS surplus in the general budget. Every extra dollar out in payments is a dollar that need to borrow for their pork. There is no SS trust fund but the analysis that the payments into SS are greater than the outflows is correct. In truth SS is nothing more than a giant Ponzi scheme.

 

Comment by Susan | 2009-02-19 10:06:21

THANK YOU for this very informative and reassuring article! This should be posted NOW in every major newspaper throughout the country BEFORE Axelrod, et al decide to rob us blind once more! I will be applying for SS in Sept., but it is the next generation I am truly worried about. Once again, thank you, and please try to get this info out beyond the No Quarter readers.

 

Comment by karen | 2009-02-19 13:35:59

This is all so sad. Damn all these thieves to hell.

 

Comment by jc | 2009-02-22 06:40:27

what about the ssi back pay payments that the social security office keeps in what they call a DEDICATED ACCOUNT? for children with disabilitys that parents/payee’s can not withdraw andless they speak with a social security represenative? thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars sitting in these Dedicated accounts, the process to withdraw your childs backpay out of these dedicated accounts are beyond frustrating, i find it disturbing that a childs disability benefits that is there benefits the parents/payees can not withdraw without permission and when you do say oh i’d like to take 200 dollars out they say go to your school and your doctor for your disabled child get documents that say what you want to buy and will it fit his special needs all need to be documented by the doctors and teachers. wanting to get educational materials for my child it’s been 3 months to get a yes or no from social security office we have access to this account i do not dare take out without permission its the policy…. why should we have to go through a LONG process like this i know what my son needs i HAVE TO GET PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!! its my sons DISABILITY benefits…but accordning to social security any need you have for your disabled child you have to go through them first to recieve the amount your asking for… Large sums of money sit in these dedicated accounts and accumilate more and more because social security makes it almost impossible to withdraw your childs money out for the childs disability. were not talking a few thousand dollars that sit in these dedicated accounts were talking 24,000 + in thousands of disabled childrens Dedicated accounts. just not right, that is my responsibility as his parent to determine what he needs for his disability. very frustrating. When I spoke with the school administration the principle looked at me like why are you asking me about if i think what your asking for is appropriate for your sons special needs!!!!!!!!he commented and said that is just odd and laughed about it. it was humilating as a parent to have to go ask a principle like i’m not a responsibile parent. to much hassle so benefits thousands sit and accumilate over time.so the money sits helping the economy not one bit.

Comment by kimberley | 2009-08-24 13:10:29

yes i have the same problem my son is 12 and it took a few years to get it and i asked his worker about what you can use it for .she said an in home nurse ok don’t need that, a wheel chair ramp dont need that either,and training,and education well i guess it sit’s there, and i thought it would be given to them when they turn 18 no she said the same rule’s apply well it seems they will never get their money until they are old and need something of the sort .well if you did not have such a backpay you could spend it how you wanted she said its the amount of money that changes that to a dedicated account i said thanks ..well thank you for your input its frustrating !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

Comment by jc | 2009-02-22 06:49:03

you right social security is not broke i have given proof of that.

 

Comment by Pa-Pilot | 2009-09-20 18:47:43

Umm.. you obviously don’t know how social security funds are handled, do you?

First, there is no Social Security “trust fund.” That is a mythical creation.

The fact is that every single dollar of Social Security receipts that is not used to pay beneficiaries is immediately borrowed by the federal government and replaced with a bond.

So, for every dollar in the “trust fund,” there is a dollar in the national debt. Every dollar in the “trust fund” is owed to it by the fed. Nice, isn’t it? So, if the federal government becomes insolvent, that “trust fund” disappears.

If you go look at historical budget data from the CBO, you can see that social security surpluses are used in calculating the overall budget deficit or surplus. Clinton never had a real surplus without using the Social Security surplus to offset the operating budget deficit.

It is all a big game. One day, the social security system will not take in enough money to pay out all of the liabilities, and the government will have to either cut benefits or raise taxes to make up the shortage.

This is what they always talked about when they used the term “raiding the social security trust fund.” In reality, there is no trust fund at all – just a pile of worthless IOUs from the Treasury.

 

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