Comments on: Stifled Voices http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/ Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:04:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146963 Old Grumpy Guy Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:00:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146963 That is a shocking but not particularly surprising report. That is a shocking but not particularly surprising report.

]]> By: Idiocracy08 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146951 Idiocracy08 Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:56:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146951 I believe climate change is real, but I don't believe in man made global warming. I will be the first to admit that I don't know enough about the science but I do have to say, and laugh at me if you want, but it can't be good to continually be breaking up the ice at the North Pole. This is what I would call man made if anything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w5LrFx-wdY&feature=related I believe climate change is real, but I don’t believe in man made global warming.

I will be the first to admit that I don’t know enough about the science but I do have to say, and laugh at me if you want, but it can’t be good to continually be breaking up the ice at the North Pole. This is what I would call man made if anything:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w5LrFx-wdY&feature=related

]]> By: andrew191 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146947 andrew191 Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:40:54 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146947 OGG, when anyone holds a consuming belief, they are not likely to investigate or consider evidence that is contrary to their comfortable view of the world. It is not human nature for someone to dig for evidence that could demonstrate that their position is wrong. Just like the Larry Sinclair issue, the opposing side is unwilling or unable to even consider the possibility that LS has credible evidence, so the debate is halted. I'm afraid that any efforts to reveal the fraudulent nature of the Obama Presidency will be met with harsh retaliative measures, so for the moment keep your powder dry. The best way to defeat the Obama power grab is to expose him for what he is, a spineless, pathetic, needy little boy, who couldn't run a kool-aid stand, unless his mindless supporters were lined up to fill his coffers. OGG, when anyone holds a consuming belief, they are not likely to investigate or consider evidence that is contrary to their comfortable view of the world. It is not human nature for someone to dig for evidence that could demonstrate that their position is wrong. Just like the Larry Sinclair issue, the opposing side is unwilling or unable to even consider the possibility that LS has credible evidence, so the debate is halted. I’m afraid that any efforts to reveal the fraudulent nature of the Obama Presidency will be met with harsh retaliative measures, so for the moment keep your powder dry. The best way to defeat the Obama power grab is to expose him for what he is, a spineless, pathetic, needy little boy, who couldn’t run a kool-aid stand, unless his mindless supporters were lined up to fill his coffers.

]]> By: Gary McGowan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146945 Gary McGowan Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:18:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146945 Helen, <blockquote>I’d also like to know more about the cyclical nature of our warming and cooling over the ages. Repeated ice ages suggests warming cycles in between.</blockquote> http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202005/ComingPresentIceAge.pdf 13 pages, including charts back 180,000 years, discussion, refrences Hope this is helpful. Helen,

I’d also like to know more about the cyclical nature of our warming and cooling over the ages. Repeated ice ages suggests warming cycles in between.

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202005/ComingPresentIceAge.pdf

13 pages, including charts back 180,000 years, discussion, refrences

Hope this is helpful.

]]> By: Old Grumpy Guy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146923 Old Grumpy Guy Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:35:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146923 All I am saying is that the Sinclair allegations do not seem to have been fully investigated, like a lot of other issues surrounding Obama. All I am saying is that the Sinclair allegations do not seem to have been fully investigated, like a lot of other issues surrounding Obama.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146917 Ferd Berfle Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:30:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146917 Actually. I think there is evidence that the CO2 levels may be higher than your post would let on. I am a chemist and not a climatologist but I do know a great deal about carbon dioxide and that it is indeed an effective insulator. That being said, I do not argue with climatologists about their field of endeavor much as I would expect the same of them about mine. GW is real, as I've said in other comments but that the source(s) remain to be determined and potential mitigation. And Al Gore is only the messenger and is not a scientist. Actually. I think there is evidence that the CO2 levels may be higher than your post would let on. I am a chemist and not a climatologist but I do know a great deal about carbon dioxide and that it is indeed an effective insulator. That being said, I do not argue with climatologists about their field of endeavor much as I would expect the same of them about mine. GW is real, as I’ve said in other comments but that the source(s) remain to be determined and potential mitigation. And Al Gore is only the messenger and is not a scientist.

]]> By: Gary McGowan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146914 Gary McGowan Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:11:37 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146914 A thousand thanks for your good works, sir. And to the site administrators, who apparently recognize the high quality of same. A thousand thanks for your good works, sir.

And to the site administrators, who apparently recognize the high quality of same.

]]> By: Sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146850 Sally Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:58:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146850 God you people don't deserve Democracy....you'd be just as happy in a dictatorship it seems. "what harm can it do if the problem doesn't exist".....every harm in the world you $*&*%--especially if its used to control people's lives, remove our individual rights and destroy our economies all for the sake of some made up crisis. There really is no way to wake you dough heads up, is there? And then I'm the bad one for trying to preserve your stupid ass's freedom--something you obviously don't value. God please help them! God you people don’t deserve Democracy….you’d be just as happy in a dictatorship it seems. “what harm can it do if the problem doesn’t exist”…..every harm in the world you $*&*%–especially if its used to control people’s lives, remove our individual rights and destroy our economies all for the sake of some made up crisis. There really is no way to wake you dough heads up, is there?

And then I’m the bad one for trying to preserve your stupid ass’s freedom–something you obviously don’t value.

God please help them!

]]> By: sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146839 sally Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:43:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146839 Notice how no one else seems to care? It just doesn't fit with the doctrine and is hence of no use. That's todays science for ya...you betcha! Notice how no one else seems to care? It just doesn’t fit with the doctrine and is hence of no use. That’s todays science for ya…you betcha!

]]> By: sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146837 sally Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:39:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146837 Thanks for that interesting little morsel...very interesting. Thanks for that interesting little morsel…very interesting.

]]> By: sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146826 sally Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:28:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146826 ...and you would know how, mr. expert? …and you would know how, mr. expert?

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146777 Ferd Berfle Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:17:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146777 I hope you weren't offended by the tone of my comment. I sometimes write a bit tersely. If you were offended, my apologies. <blockquote>Just curious.</blockquote> That is a good thing. There is a lot of information out there, particularly on sites devoted to the sciences. I would shy away from the obvious politically-motivated ones and there are a lot of them on both the right and left. I hope you weren’t offended by the tone of my comment. I sometimes write a bit tersely. If you were offended, my apologies.

Just curious.

That is a good thing. There is a lot of information out there, particularly on sites devoted to the sciences. I would shy away from the obvious politically-motivated ones and there are a lot of them on both the right and left.

]]> By: Helen http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146774 Helen Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:13:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146774 OK. You're right. I've seen the graphs. I was referring to being open to the discussion about causes and mitigations. But I'd also like to know more about the cyclical nature of our warming and cooling over the ages. Repeated ice ages suggests warming cycles in between. Just curious. OK. You’re right. I’ve seen the graphs. I was referring to being open to the discussion about causes and mitigations. But I’d also like to know more about the cyclical nature of our warming and cooling over the ages. Repeated ice ages suggests warming cycles in between. Just curious.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146758 Ferd Berfle Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:56:59 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146758 <blockquote>About global warming. I’m open to hear the arguments from either side. I think humans are affecting the environment but I don’t know if Al Gore is exaggerating or not. I voted for him, but did not watch his movie given all the hype about it. I wanted to hear the critics’ replies. I’m waiting for a proper discussion. If we’re messing it up that bad maybe we should go extinct. But I’m waiting till they fire up that atom smasher in Switzerland and see if it sucks us all into a black hole.</blockquote> The argument is essentially over about whether it is real or not. The only disagreements center around cause and potential mitigation. Moreover, asking Al Gore about GW is akin to asking a commercial actor about the product he is selling. The people one needs to discuss the issues with are the scientists involved in the research, and I am nor referencing meteorologists but climatologists.

About global warming. I’m open to hear the arguments from either side. I think humans are affecting the environment but I don’t know if Al Gore is exaggerating or not. I voted for him, but did not watch his movie given all the hype about it. I wanted to hear the critics’ replies. I’m waiting for a proper discussion. If we’re messing it up that bad maybe we should go extinct. But I’m waiting till they fire up that atom smasher in Switzerland and see if it sucks us all into a black hole.

The argument is essentially over about whether it is real or not. The only disagreements center around cause and potential mitigation. Moreover, asking Al Gore about GW is akin to asking a commercial actor about the product he is selling. The people one needs to discuss the issues with are the scientists involved in the research, and I am nor referencing meteorologists but climatologists.

]]> By: sally http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/20/stifled-voices/#comment-1146755 sally Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:50:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=14977#comment-1146755 I read about that, as did my husband. As a physician he is now as disgusted in his profession as I am in mine and I hardly blame him. This is bad. I read about that, as did my husband. As a physician he is now as disgusted in his profession as I am in mine and I hardly blame him. This is bad.

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