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CIA Expert Reviews Electronic Voting Machines

I came across this interesting story the other day, “Most Electronic Voting Isn’t Secure, CIA Expert Says.” Well, no freakin’ kidding - anyone who has paid the LEAST bit of attention to the issue of electronic voting machines knows that, right? Thank heavens, someone int he government is FINALLY addressing this issue! Except, just not here:

The CIA, which has been monitoring foreign countries’ use of electronic voting systems, has reported apparent vote-rigging schemes in Venezuela, Macedonia and Ukraine and a raft of concerns about the machines’ vulnerability to tampering.

Appearing last month before a U.S. Election Assistance Commission field hearing in Orlando, Fla., a CIA cybersecurity expert suggested that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and his allies fixed a 2004 election recount, an assertion that could further roil U.S. relations with the Latin leader.

In a presentation that could provide disturbing lessons for the United States, where electronic voting is becoming universal, Steve Stigall summarized what he described as attempts to use computers to undermine democratic elections in developing nations. His remarks have received no news media attention until now.

Stigall told the Election Assistance Commission, a tiny agency that Congress created in 2002 to modernize U.S. voting, that computerized electoral systems can be manipulated at five stages, from altering voter registration lists to posting results.

“You heard the old adage ‘follow the money,’ ” Stigall said, according to a transcript of his hour-long presentation that McClatchy obtained. “I follow the vote. And wherever the vote becomes an electron and touches a computer, that’s an opportunity for a malicious actor potentially to . . . make bad things happen.”

Stigall said that voting equipment connected to the Internet could be hacked, and machines that weren’t connected could be compromised wirelessly. Eleven U.S. states have banned or limited wireless capability in voting equipment, but Stigall said that election officials didn’t always know it when wireless cards were embedded in their machines.


Oh, goodie - yet more ways for people to commit voter fraud! Ahem. As if they NEED any more ways - and I know he is talking about other countries, but the possibility of wireless and Internet voting coming to a town/city/overseas military base is most DEFINITELY possible.

And now, to the good ol’ USA:

While Stigall said that he wasn’t speaking for the CIA and wouldn’t address U.S. voting systems, his presentation appeared to undercut calls by some U.S. politicians to shift to Internet balloting, at least for military personnel and other American citizens living overseas. Stigall said that most Web-based ballot systems had proved to be insecure.

The commission has been criticized for giving states more than $1 billion to buy electronic equipment without first setting performance standards. Numerous computer-security experts have concluded that U.S. systems can be hacked, and allegations of tampering in Ohio, Florida and other swing states have triggered a campaign to require all voting machines to produce paper audit trails.

The CIA got interested in electronic systems a few years ago, Stigall said, after concluding that foreigners might try to hack U.S. election systems. He said he couldn’t elaborate “in an open, unclassified forum,” but that any concerns would be relayed to U.S. election officials.

Holy frijoles, really?? Yikes - another good reason not to do this. Not that we didn’t have foreign interference this past election with campaign contributions, specifically to the Obama campaign (I wonder just how many laws Obama broke getting himself into the White House??)

The expert got more specific about a few countries:

Stigall, who’s studied electronic systems in about three dozen countries, said that most countries’ machines produced paper receipts that voters then dropped into boxes. However, even that doesn’t prevent corruption, he said.

Turning to Venezuela, he said that Chavez controlled all of the country’s voting equipment before he won a 2004 nationwide recall vote that had threatened to end his rule.

When Chavez won, Venezuelan mathematicians challenged results that showed him to be consistently strong in parts of the country where he had weak support. The mathematicians found “a very subtle algorithm” that appeared to adjust the vote in Chavez’s favor, Stigall said.

Calls for a recount left Chavez facing a dilemma, because the voting machines produced paper ballots, Stigall said.

“How do you defeat the paper ballots the machines spit out?” Stigall asked. “Those numbers must agree, must they not, with the electronic voting-machine count? . . . In this case, he simply took a gamble.”

Stigall said that Chavez agreed to allow 100 of 19,000 voting machines to be audited.

“It is my understanding that the computer software program that generated the random number list of voting machines that were being randomly audited, that program was provided by Chavez,” Stigall said. “That’s my understanding. It generated a list of computers that could be audited, and they audited those computers.

“You know. No pattern of fraud there.”

A Venezuelan Embassy representative in Washington declined immediate comment.

The disclosure of Stigall’s remarks comes amid recent hostile rhetoric between President Barack Obama and Chavez. On Sunday, Chavez was quoted as reacting hotly to Obama’s assertion that he’s been “exporting terrorism,” referring to the new U.S. president as a “poor ignorant person.”

Questions about Venezuela’s voting equipment caused a stir in the United States long before Obama became president, because Smartmatic, a voting machine company that partnered with a firm hired by Chavez’s government, owned U.S.-based Sequoia Voting Systems until 2007. Sequoia machines were in use in 16 states and the District of Columbia at the time.

Reacting to complaints that the arrangement was a national security concern, the Treasury Department’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States launched an investigation. Smartmatic then announced in November 2007 that it had sold Sequoia to a group of investors led by Sequoia’s U.S.-based management team, thus ending the inquiry.

Again, WHY have we not had this level of investigation HERE??? Blackboxvoting.org has documented instance after instance after INSTANCE of electronic voting machine shenanigans (examples below), and we sure have not had the Treasury Department launching full scale investigations HERE! Pathetic.

As for Chavez allegedly fixing the election in 2004, I think it is safe to say we shouldn’t be throwing stones (as in living in a glass house ourselves), no matter whether you like/hate Chavez. We need only look back at our past 3 elections to prove that point. Unless this is one of those, “do as we say, not as we do” kind of things…

And isn’t it interesting that Obama is picking fights with Chavez, too, just like Bush did? Curious…

Back to the international scene:

In the former Soviet republic of Georgia, Stigall said, hackers took resurrecting the dead to “a new art form” by adding the names of people who’d died in the 18th century to computerized voter-registration lists. Macedonia was accused of “voter genocide” because the names of so many Albanians living in the country were eradicated from the computerized lists, Stigall said.

He said that elections also could be manipulated when votes were cast, when ballots were moved or transmitted to central collection points, when official results were tabulated and when the totals were posted on the Internet.

In Ukraine, Stigall said, opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko lost a 2004 presidential election runoff because supporters of Russian-backed Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych “introduced an unauthorized computer into the Ukraine election committee national headquarters. They snuck it in.

“The implication is that these people were . . . making subtle adjustments to the vote. In other words, intercepting the votes before it goes to the official computer for tabulation.”

Taped cell-phone calls of the ensuing cover-up led to nationwide protests and a second runoff, which Yushchenko won.

Election Assistance Commission officials didn’t trumpet Stigall’s appearance Feb. 27, and he began by saying that he didn’t wish to be identified. However, the election agency had posted his name and biography on its Web site before his appearance.

Electronic voting systems have been controversial in advanced countries, too. Germany’s constitutional court banned computerized machines this month on the grounds that they don’t allow voters to check their choices.

Well, there’s a concept. Germany actually cares that the voter can assure his or her vote is recorded accurately. What a concept! Ad more:

Stigall said that some countries had taken novel steps that improved security.

For example, he said, Internet systems that encrypt vote results so they’re unrecognizable during transmission “greatly complicates malicious corruption.” Switzerland, he noted, has had success in securing Internet voting by mailing every registered citizen scratch cards that contain unique identification numbers for signing on to the Internet. Then the voters must answer personal security questions, such as naming their mothers’ birthplaces.

Stigall commended Russia for transmitting vote totals over classified communication lines and inviting hackers to test its electronic voting system for vulnerabilities. He said that Russia now hoped to enable its citizens to vote via cell phones by next year.

“As Russia moves to a one-party state,” he said, “they’re trying to make their elections available . . . so everyone can vote for the one party. That’s the irony.”

After reviewing Stigall’s remarks, Susannah Goodman, the director of election reform for the citizens’ lobby Common Cause, said they showed that “we can no longer ignore the fact that all of these risks are present right here at home . . . and must secure our election system by requiring every voter to have his or her vote recorded on a paper ballot.”

Well, true that, Ms. Goodman. We have our own problems here, like Bev Harris of Black Box Voting finding garbage bags full of CERTIFIED votes tossed out in the trash, while another set were resented as the count. I am not making this crap up. Check it: Certified Votes found in trash in Florida.

Or how about this one: . Oh, now THAT’S some security there, because NO ONE can get a mini-bar key, right??

A NUMBER of states have had issues with voting machine problems. Check HERE - I bet you’ll find your state listed (special nod to my home state, NC, which had some machines that, once they reached their pre-designed total, began to count BACKWARDS.
Mini-bar key can open Diebold Electronic Voting Machines.

The problems in New Mexico were so rampant, it is thought they cost Kerry the presidency. They continued this past year, too, and not just in New Mexico.

Don’t even get me started on Ohio, both in 2004 and 2008 (I have written about the voter fraud issues in Ohio a number of times, as have a bunch of others. You can view previous articles Here, Here, and Here, for starters.)

This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of voting machine issues in this country.

Ms. Goodman is absolutely right - we cannot ignore the voting problems we have at home. I sure wish the FBI, Treasury Department, and anyone else in the upper echelons of government, would do as much work here at home as the CIA is doing abroad on this critical issue. In my humble opinion, we have not had legitimate elections since the introduction of the Diebold machines. Add in blatant voter fraud (and one man gleefully acknowledged he voted more than once on national tv), and I think it is safe to say our elections do not “count every vote” (neither does the Democratic Party for that matter - oh, wait - they do, just not the way in which the people cast them).

We need REAL voting machine reform in this country, too, the sooner the better, preferably by 2010 (elections are not THAT far away)…

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Comment by wodiej | 2009-03-29 08:43:51

too bad they didn’t investigate this when Bush was suspected of this. I couldn’t stand him but at least he wasn’t a socialist.

Our country has such low expectations for leaders anymore. I believe it is the crumbling of integrity of our society.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 09:18:44

Yes, too bad, indeed. There was TONS of evidence of vote tampering - especially in FL, but not limited to it (I recall that in 2000, they were finding ballot boxes under stairways and all kinds of places)…

I couldn’t stand Bush either, but Obama seems like more of the same to me - with the added bonus of trying to co-opt our banks and businesses (can you IMAGINE the hue and cry had Bush tried that??)…

 
 

Comment by Sassy | 2009-03-29 09:38:19

Good article Amy!
While I agree that electronic machines are fallible, I have doubts that we will ever be certain that our elections here are fair.
Look what bus loads of ineligible caucus voters and the Rules and Bylaws Committee pulled off, right in front of the entire country!

Comment by wodiej | 2009-03-29 09:52:13

true, Caucuses should be outlawed. That is just insane. I had no idea how those worked until this past primary. People going to a corner to stand w the group for who they support and then raising their hand to cast a vote?? Please, get w the 21st century and at least have paper ballots. Stupidest thing I’ve ever seen.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 09:56:41

Excellent point, Sassy - it is amazing how many people still don’t have a clue what happened at those caucuses…

Speaking of, I know there is the documentary, “We Will Not Be Silenced 2008,” but someone mentioned that there are two others out there, including one on YouTube. Does anyone remember what they were?

Comment by Kathleen Wynne | 2009-03-29 14:37:34

Rev. Amy,

I had hoped that I could persuade the PUMA coalition to join with the election reform community to help build a “critical mass” of citizen outrage over the loss of our elections. The caucuses are but one of the many ways the will of the people is disenfranchised by the power elite.

As I mentioned in previous posts to you, I am the former Associate Director of Black Box Voting.org and our investigative work was featured in the HBO documentary, “Hacking Democracy”. I also contributed videotaped interviews with delegates and citizens who witnessed questionable (and in some cases criminal) behavior by the obama supporters during the caucus process, which was featured in the documentary Brad Mays “The Audacity of Democracy”.

I had hoped that you or someone from the PUMA coalition would contact me to discuss how we can join forces because as I keep reiterating, until citizens take back their elections, they can not take back their country.

It’s just that simple.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 17:49:55

THANK HEAVENS YOU WROTE!!! I apologize - things have been a bit crazy dealing with these puppies and everything now. I think we can do an online viewing of the documentary here at No Quarter, with a live chat!

Please write SusanUnPC at gmail dot com, and tell her you are the one abt whom I was speaking in terms of the documentaries to watch online. I would really appreciate that, Kathleen.

AND - have you considered writing a guest post on your work at blackboxvoting, and this issue?? You could even expand on what you wrote above, and again, send it to SusanUnPC at gmail dot com.

 

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 20:01:10

ARGH! Kathleen, I don’t know if you will see this now, but I was HOPING you would write! I apologize that I forgot the names of the movies (I’m blaming it on the sleep deprivation the 7 puppies bring), but we would like to show them at NQ, and have a Live Chat with them.

PLEASE write SusanUnPC at gmail dot com with any info you have on how we can watch them (isn’t one of them on YouTube?). We’d like to do it this week, if possible…

Comment by Kathleen Wynne | 2009-03-30 11:36:33

Rev. Amy,

I tried to contact Susan at the e-mail you listed above, but it did not go through.

Could you please write to me at wynnekathleen@yahoo.com and we can go from there? Thanks.

 
 
 
 

Comment by I'mFedUp | 2009-03-29 10:34:49

Yes caucuses are moronic, but don’t look to the Dems for any support in abolishing them. They had the system down to a science while they stole the nomination from Hillary. They’ll keep using the holes in that system to cheat.

 
 
 

Comment by mountainaires | 2009-03-29 10:10:07

Really good post, RRRA. I appreciate the work and research you’ve made available to all here.

I am a lost cause on this issue now. I’m so disgusted, and so cynical that I have decided not to vote.

Before everyone goes off, says “oh you have to vote!” or whatever else people [like myself, in the past] say about our “responsibility” or our “right” or our “obligation” to vote, let go one step further and tell you that I actually think that everyone should stop voting altogether.

Yeah, radical, I know. And, completely impossible, to be sure. But, I don’t think anything in this country will ever change, until the American people prove conclusively that our entire system is a fraud.

People fume and fuss and say that more people should vote. They fume and fuss and say that people should throw all the incumbents out. They fume and say there will be tax revolts–oh goody, more people in prison which only serves our prison corporation of America.

There is simply no other answer, but to just stop voting altogether. If there are no votes, how does this government pass off their scam that Obama is “elected” president? They don’t get to do it. Because 20 votes out of 300 Million people doesn’t pass the smell test.

To me, a NO VOTE is the strongest possible statement of rejection from the American people.

But, it’s all an abstract argument, anyway. Because the American people are so propagandized to continue participating in the charade of our “Democratic Republic” that they’ll never get it anyway.

 

Comment by Sassy | 2009-03-29 10:17:24

Good reasoning mountaineers, but I disagree.
We can never win every skirmish, but we have to go to the fight!
Fighters built this country, fighters need to preserve it if possible!

 

Comment by MrMike | 2009-03-29 10:23:55

Stuff like this only comes out when we want to undermine a foreign leader we dislike. How much of this goes unremarked because it’s done by one of our allies?
What’s next for Venezuela? A preemptive strike because Chavez has WMDs?

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 10:48:17

Excellent point, MrMike!

 
 

Comment by Ani | 2009-03-29 11:08:09

Great piece and great research, Amy.

A friend of mine went down to work the election in Florida in 2004 and reported tons of shenanigans. Alas, it is getting worse, not better.

Considering how many times I call my representatives and they just ignore me, I don’t know what the solution is.

 

Comment by avwrobel | 2009-03-29 11:12:45

Electronic voting is a threat to democracy. Simple as that. Canadaonly uses paper ballots. We should follow Canada and Germany’s examples, and our own before DIEBOLD’s arrival with their electronic voting machines.

 

Comment by avwrobel | 2009-03-29 11:13:22

Electronic voting is a threat to democracy. Simple as that. Canada only uses paper ballots. We should follow Canada and Germany’s examples, and our own before DIEBOLD’s arrival with their electronic voting machines.

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 12:03:42

AMEN! Honestly, if they can do it, and it is working, why can’t we? And people should be able to register to vote in a timely fashion. This whole “registering the day of” thing is ridiculous. Yes, yes, I know it means more people can vote, but it also opens the door for more “shenanigans,” to quote my friend, Ani, above! (And, THANKS, Ani - you know your opinion means a lot to me!)

 
 

Comment by Sonic Ninja Kitty | 2009-03-29 11:28:23

Great article, Amy. The very core of our democracy is rotten. I wonder if the CIA will report to the public?

 

Comment by JozefAL | 2009-03-29 13:04:42

Okay, I have a couple of questions.
First, if electronic voting is so “vulnerable” to being tampered with, why then doesn’t someone ensure the same level of encryption and security that’s available for our online purchases and bill paying (as well as online banking itself)? I mean, how many MILLIONS of transactions are handled online every single day with NO security vulnerability? In order to make some transactions, I have to enter a password (often with a user ID in addition to my real name) and then, I’m issued a challenge question to verify my ID before continuing any further. Some systems have a failure lock-out (you’re allowed 3-5 tries before being prevented from logging in on the same computer for a set period of time–from a few minutes to a few hours or even a full day). And if the system determines you’re attempting to log in from a different computer than your usual one, it may block you completely without your having to set up a NEW

Comment by foxyladi14 | 2009-03-29 18:17:09

that.s a good idea..

 
 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-03-29 13:30:47

WOW, great post. Just amazing. Yes, 2004 Ohio and New Mexico were especially SPECIAL. And the dirty dealing to buy the machines used in 2004 in New Mexico, while then SOS was being wined, dined and vacationed by those folks. Billie Boy Richardson was quie familiar with the problems of those machines and they all went ahead with them. Of course, it was no secret that he wanted to run for Prez in 2008…and coincidental? that he erased all the votes before they could be recounted.

He changed things for the 2008 election, being one of 2states going with the optical scanners that had a paper ballot, moved up the election and thought his support by grassroots groups would be enough to give him a win.

Now, Ohio, that was special. I was there for their 2004. I made many trips to the capitol about the voting machines. We all remember Rob Ney’s involvement there too, yes? He’s currently serving in jail.

My thrill was moving to NM and having Kerry come for a book event in 2007. I was in Ohio during his empty promises to count votes and the idiot couldn’t have conceded any faster. I was making calls there verying votes with voters and we were all pleaing with Kerry to ask for a recount. He stayed silent until others started getting involved. The rigging was confirmed by the voters ownn dilegence and some are serving sentences for their rigging.

But yet, Kerry, when he made the stop in my new home state, and someone yelled out from the audience about Bush and him being pres, Kerry stopped and said “I just want to thank all of you for your work during the election, too bad I couldn’t have gotten you all to move to Ohio”. I yelled, “Oh no, he didn’t just say that” and I thought my hubby was going to lunge at him and I litteraly held him bak.

Why is it we are always fighting for what is right and fair with our supposed Leaders who are supposed to be doing this for their job?

Comment by Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy | 2009-03-29 18:41:17

Wow - very interesting, Linda!

And I’m with you - I was SO mad at Kerry when he rolled over almost instantaneously! WTH already???? So much for fighting for every vote, huh??

You lived in all of the exciting voter fraud places!!! :-D

 
 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-03-29 13:32:56

My comment is lost in the spam filter, can someone please go free it?

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-03-29 15:05:06

Free, free, free-at last! :) Gracias!

 
 

Comment by QUEENIE | 2009-03-29 15:32:38

gee wiz and who owned Sequoia voting machines here in Fla in 2004..Venezuela..

The very machines we in Fla fought to have banned in Fla legislature, that repubs attached the primary date change onto..and we were punished for being the first state in the nation to ban DRE voting machines for the 2008 election..but who did we get punished by??????????????????..the freaking democrats ..aka,….OBAMA, Rahmn, Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, Reid..and most of the nation stayed silent , while 2 million peoples votes were not counted!

 

Comment by No-nonsense-Nancy | 2009-03-29 18:08:47

Great article, Amy. If the Democrats and Obama committed this much fraud in “08 imagine what they’ll do in “012, especially if his popularity rates are low. We need to work before that election to get rid of the caucases and have all paper ballots, like we have in my county in PA. Ours are like a test where you fill in the “answer” with a special pen. Then it is put into a locked ballott box by the voter which is like a safe and is counted electronically. It is pretty much tamper proof. We also have a six week deadline for voter registration. No registering at the last minute or on election day.

 

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