Secretary of State Clinton On Afghanistan and Women – Updated
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on April 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM in Afghanistan, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Education, Misogyny, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Sexism, State Department, Taliban, Women and Children
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Oh – and don’t worry about the puppies – they will be well cared for in our absence, as will the rest of our animals.
This photo was taken in London, when Secretary of State Clinton joined Obama at the G-20.
Secretary Clinton had a meeting at the Hague March 31st on issues related to Afghanistan. The following video is of the follow-up press conference to Secretary Clinton’s remarks. The very last question deals with the issue of women in Afghanistan:
Here is the transcript of the last question:
MR. WOOD: Okay, the last question will be from Amina Mayr from the Killid Group.QUESTION: Okay. Sorry, we don’t not speak English, but (inaudible).
(Via interpreter) What’s the plan for the Afghan women in new strategy for their improvement? Because as we’ve seen the past, there were some – there were just some (inaudible) for the women in Afghan society. Is there new changes in the new strategy?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, there’s a continuing commitment to women and girls, to their well-being, to their education, their healthcare, to their full integration into society that I am very committed to, as is President Obama. So this is an area of absolute concern on the part of the United States. We’re looking for ways that can produce even more opportunities for women and girls in Afghanistan.
I’ve briefly met with some of the women parliamentarians who are here at the conference. And my message is very clear: Women’s rights are a central part of American foreign policy in the Obama Administration; they are not marginal; they are not an add-on or an afterthought.
I believe, as does President Obama, that the roles and rights of women in any society is a key indicator as to the stability and potential for peace, prosperity, and democracy of that society. So I would be committed to women’s roles and rights because of my lifelong concern about women. But as Secretary of State, I am equally committed because it’s absolutely the smart strategy for the United States and other nations to pursue.
You cannot expect a country to develop if half its population are underfed, undereducated, under cared for, oppressed, and left on the sidelines. And we believe strongly that that’s not in the interests of Afghanistan or any country, and it certainly is not part of our foreign policy or our strategic review. So we will continue to work very hard on behalf of women and girls in Afghanistan and around the world.
Well, I do believe Clinton cares about women and girls – she has demonstrated that passion time and time again. Obama? Not so much. From the sexist, misogynistic behavior he demonstrated throughout the Primaries and the campaign, to his choice of Tim Kaine as DNC chair, he cannot claim to be anywhere NEAR Clinton on this issue.
Maybe when she says “the Obama Administration,” she means herself. Heaven knows, she can make that claim.
And from one of those unsung people who serve our country abroad, from the State Department Blog, a video of Beverli DeWalt, who worked with women in Afghanistan:
This is a terribly important issue. Since it has been a while since we began the war in Afghanistan, perhaps we have forgotten how horribly women were treated under the Taliban:
Desperate times under the Taliban in Afghanistan. Since the US helped the Taliban take control (and HERE, for starters), it is only fitting that we work to repair the damage done, especially to women and girls.
Thank heavens for Secretary Clinton. I have faith that she will work hard to promote women’s and girls’ rights in Afghanistan, in conjunction with the current leadership in Afghanistan**. And with our support, I have hope that she will.
** ** I just received this article from one of my fellow writers at No Quarter, Naif Sag Tan, and it is disturbing in the extreme, especially as it relates to women and girls in Afghanistan. Apparently, Karzai doesn’t support women and girls as much as he said he did, if the following article is correct: Silence Meets Despair of Afghan Women
Afghanistan’s women are no longer in vogue.
It was only a few years ago that Laura Bush, who normally shied from causes that could be considered controversial, took up their banner. “The brutal oppression of women is a central goal of the terrorists,” the first lady said in a radio address shortly after President Bush launched the U.S-led invasion to overthrow the Taliban following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. “The plight of women and children in Afghanistan is a matter of deliberate human cruelty, carried out by those who seek to intimidate and control.”
That was then. This is now: Afghan President Hamid Karzai has just signed a law that forces women to obey their husbands’ sexual demands, keeps women from leaving the house — even for work or school — without a husband’s permission, automatically grants child custody rights to fathers and grandfathers before mothers, and favors men in inheritance disputes and other legal matters. In short, the law again consigns Afghan women to lives of brutal repression.
“This is really, really dangerous for everybody in Afghanistan,” Soraya Sobhrang of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission said in a telephone interview from Kabul. Noting that violence against women already is rampant, Sobhrang said the new law effectively “legalizes all violence against women in Afghanistan.”
The legislation zoomed through Afghanistan’s parliament quickly. Karzai, who faces elections in August, signed it in an apparent effort to placate conservative religious factions. The United Nations Development Fund for Women says it is still analyzing a final version of the legislation, but is “seriously concerned” about its impact. It appears to contradict both the Afghan constitution, which guarantees equal rights for men and women, and international conventions on human rights.
The U.S. State Department has had no immediate comment.
Afghanistan’s women are, apparently, the latest casualty of the Obama administration’s tilt toward realpolitik: ignore human rights violations — whether they’re in China, Russia or in the quiet misery of an Afghan villager’s home — in pursuit of larger foreign policy goals.
This contradiction between political rhetoric and policy reality has often been the American way. But now we have Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of state. When she was first lady, she championed the rights of women oppressed by the Taliban long before most Americans had ever heard of that radical regime. Clinton took the helm of the State Department vowing to elevate the cause of human and economic rights for women and girls — a pledge she made again in The Hague this week at the end of a major conference on Afghanistan that was aimed at securing greater international cooperation on the desperate and disparate crises there.
“My message is very clear. Women’s rights are a central part of American foreign policy in the Obama administration; they are not marginal, they are not an add-on or an afterthought,” Clinton said in response to a general question about the situation confronting women in Afghan society. “You cannot expect a country to develop if half its population (is) underfed, undereducated, under cared for, oppressed, and left on the sidelines.”
The secretary was not asked specifically about the new law. Among other provisions, it guarantees that married men can have sex once every four nights and wives must submit. In effect, it legalizes marital rape. Sobhrang worries there may be worse to come. “They are talking about child marriage,” she says.
HOLY CRAP!!!! How has this been able to happen, with our tax dollars pouring into Afghanistan, and the “great” relationship we allegedly enjoyed with Karzai? Why are we just now hearing about this?
The article continues:
Without pressure from foreign powers who hold so much sway in Afghanistan, there was little even women in the country’s parliament could do. Sobhrang faults those who were quiet in the face of the clear effort by a religious faction that is said to hold the balance of power in Karzai’s re-election bid to reimpose medieval mores on a country that is in many ways a ward of the contemporary international community.The ugly truth in Afghanistan is that it has long been sliding back into the violent chaos that is friendly political ground for the Taliban and other extremist groups. Women have, as usual, been among the chief victims.
There is indeed a lengthy and urgent to-do list for the Obama administration, which says it is determined to abandon a failing course. But that does not mean the United States should again fail Afghanistan’s women.
To consign them to what Laura Bush correctly called “deliberate human cruelty” is cruelty itself. (mariecocco@washpost.com)
WHY wasn’t there pressure from other countries? HOW did they justify this horrible turn of events?
It would seem, then, that Secretary Clinton has her work cut out for her. So do the women and girls in Afghanistan. And we must stand WITH them to insure they, too, have freedom, rights, and dignity. Anything less is unacceptable.
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Obama and Clinton are not in a battle against each other anymore. Don’t you realize they are now on the same team? And going back to a few of Obama’s innocent comments and actions during the campaign and taking them out of context is just silly. Obama is as strong of a supporter of women’s rights as we’ve ever had in the White House.
Please. Out of context. Don’t insult our intelligence here. A few comments?
When you write things like this it only makes peopel angry and makes you look like you are not dealing with reality.
I am not a believer in revisionist history.
Obama (and his campaign) advantaged himself of every bit of sexism and misogyny simmering below the surface in this country and also used every old Repub. hit talking point to besmirch Hillary. The list is long.
You don’t roll in to the Iowa primary victory party playing “99 Problems But A Bitch Ain’t One” if you are a supporter of women and are willing to treat Hillary, and all women, with respect. If he does so now it is because he needs her. If they were ever campaigning against each other again — he’d pull the same crap — he also, through his surrogates, called the Clintons and their supporters racists. And the media helpfully and falsely agreed with him.
I have not forgotten. Nor has anyone else on the receiving end of this filthy smear.
*sigh*
I’m talking about real issues and real policies not about the soap opera of a campaign. And do you think Clinton was innocent during that campaign?
Seriously, it’s time to move on. There’s real work to be done by adults.
I give Hillary great respect because I think that’s what she’s done. She’s working hard, doing her job.
That’s what we all need to do to make America a better place (including a better place for women, I like most Obama supporters strongly support all women’s rights issues.)
Enough!
That is bullshit. Pure, unadulterated, bovine excrement. You can slice it, dice it, parse it until the ones who dropped it come home and call it your dinner but it is still bullshit. You Obamacrats are misogynists of the first order.
That “Soap opera of a campaign” as you call it and your attitude about moving on is the equivalent of a man physically beating a woman repeatedly and then telling her to “get over it” because, a year later, the bruises are no longer visible to the naked eye.
Once someone has shown their true character, that is never erased.
Furthermore, Clinton took him to task on the issues. Period. No one said she was innocent but she didn’t go around making stuff up about him. Tea parties in 80 countries anyone?
Ani,
Remember how the republicans used the same tactics against the dems when bush stole the election from Al Gore? They repeatedly told us that we were sore losers and to just “get over it” and the media followed right along, just like they’re doing right now for obama. What’s curious is why the obamabots don’t recognize that the same media they accused of loving and supporting GWB are the very same media who loves and supports obama. Coincidence? I think not. They are cut from the same cloth, serving the same masters as puppets. Our country is in grave danger as a result of their willful ignorance and willingness to accept this Trojan Horse, as some sort of gift!
If I remember correctly, the progressives never got over the tactics used by bush in stealing both elections and they never supported him, much less accepted him as “their president”, as the obamabots are demanding we do. I will never forget the betrayal of these so-called progressives, who we onced believed considered women as equals and would never do what they did to Hillary and Sarah Palin! We were wrong and we won’t make that mistake again of trusting them and taking them at their word. They are the epitemy of hypocrisy. Worse than the republicans.
Here is a link that document the sexism and misognynism that occurred throughout the primary against Hillary to help jog jony money’s obvious selective memory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8
I will NEVER forget.
Thanks, Kathleen.
I cannot tell you how many times I pointed out this link and how these media lapdogs are the same people who trumpeted Bush — their response is always “but Obama’s a Democrat lalalalalalalalalalalalalala” as they put their hands firmly over their ears.
Take this to the bank, Jonny Money.
We will never forget or get over it. You can *sigh* yourself right into hell but it won’t change a thing. To quote Daniel Hannan, the Brit PM:
“We know and you know and you know that we know.”
If you want an 0bama-love fest, move on yourself.
Please, Johnny-
Keep your sighs to yourself.
Facts do not a soap opera make, no matter how many times certain individuals want to paint that picture.
As Ani said. We will never forget.
You are fighting a losing battle here.
No, I’m not fighting that battle because it’s already over. The real battle is against those who are trying to stop President Obama’s moves on health care and other important initiatives.
Why is Jon Favreau still writing speeches for this paragon of virtue? He cares nothing for women’s rights and since your comments show a total lack of understanding of the nuance of sexism or the brutality of abuse, I’ll make a wild guess and say you don’t either. Sigh? No! Scream! Scream if you care. We are people, human people. The disgusting culture of young males in the country who see nothing wrong with a jerk-off putting his hands on a cardboard cutout of a former First Lady and Senator is only one example of the denigration of our sex. IRON MY SHIRT my ass. “C&$t”, “B@#ch” are only a few of the words I have been called by ignorant, sexist like you for two years. IF YOU REALLY CARE, SCREAM AND RAIL AGAINST THE INJUSTICE AND INSULTS! No? Then shut up and go straight to hell.
Obama never said “Iron My Shirt” — Why should he be blamed for something one of his supporters said? Do you think Clinton should be blamed for every single thing her supporters ever said?
The problem is that because Obama is a male and Clinton is a female you are assuming there’s some sort of gender role where there isn’t one. It’s the exact same thing as assuming there’s some role with race when there isn’t one.
Assuming Obama is sexist makes no more sense than assuming Clinton is a racist.
Jonny, it’s pretty clear you will never get past your condescending BS no matter how far “undercover” you go. Do you like Tombstone? Remember Wyatt Earp? ” And you can tell that to the DNC too. “We are coming and hell is coming with us.” We will NEVER forget. At the Jefferson Day Dinner in NC, you and your bully friends wouldn’t allow Hillary to speak and he could have stopped that unforgivable behavior with one word. All he had to do was remind the thugs this is a free country and we RESPECT one another. Hillary’s people did not treat him that way. And what would have happened if someone had held up a sign saying, “SHINE MY SHOES”? What if tee shirts had shown up at her rally with “N&##er printed on the front instead of “Bitch” or “Cu%t “? I was a faithful Dem for thirty years and I will do everything in my power to keep Dems out of office in my state and my country until all of the excrement is cleaned out of my party.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8
No, obama let his minions do his dirty work for him. Why do you continue to give him a free pass for remaining silent while this dispicable behavior was being done on his behalf? I thought this One was going to bring a whole new kind of politics to Washington? All he did was bring the Chicago Way of politics into the White House and we will all live to regret this Trojan Horse.
Imagine what obama, you, his minions, and especially the MSM would have said if a bunch of Hillary supporters came to one of his rallys with signs that read “Shine My Shoes”?!!!
The double standard afforded obama is the 500 lb. gorilla plus the elephant in the room at the same time. It’s not that you don’t see it, it’s that you “choose” to ignore it, in order to rationalize your support for this fraud that makes you the hypocrite you are.
By the way, there is nothing about Obama that is “innocent.”
Baloney!
Ok, Johnny Unemployment, at $0.05 per post, you’ve made about $0.50 tonight. Take your loot and head back to skid row to do your street-corner preaching. Your tripe sounds just like the tripe from the other thousand or so bots who have come here to off-gas and stink the place up.
Unemployment eh? And you think I’m getting paid to post comments?! Hardly! I know I should be working on other things actually. But I enjoy discourse with others on current events even if it’s with people I disagree with. I like to try to understand other people’s perspectives even if I find it quite hard in some cases.
I call myself Jonny Money because I’m actually very much into stock trading. I think it’s a great time to get in the market because I believe in the Obama recovery plan.
But there is no discourse with you, Mr. Chump Change.
Because? There’s no understanding from you.
I like to think I’m quite understanding. It’d be good though if the discourse were more about ideas rather than on people’s personalities and on silly little 24/7 cable news stories (ie Obama bowed wrong or reads his speeches from a teleprompter just like every other politician does.)
Maybe you just are too concerned about what you want instead of listening to the people here that don’t want any discourse with Obots.
You get over it. Obamacrats won. So far as many of us are concerned that means that “we” and the country as a whole “lost”.
As for Karzai signing that bill I am waiting to hear a comment, any comment from the State Department. Thus far there is a very loud silence.
SoS Clinton may be outraged personally but she works for the Misogynist in Chief. Thus she is hamstrung.
Not one more drop of blood, not one more American Taxpayer dollar should be used to prop up Karzai. He has placed the women of his country in chains. And we have no business supporting that in any way.
Any real liberal, any real human being, anyone not infected with the disease of misogyny would be outraged. Guess that leaves you out Johnny.
Go discourse yourself! IMO the only thing worse than Obama is anyone that voted for or supports him.
Good for you since someone has to, apparently. That One can raid your pockets instead of mine, sucker. And when you feel as though you’ve been violated, just remember it was you and yours who gave us this flimflam provocateur.
I actually DOUBLED my money last week (yes in just one week – I like to play microcaps that make big movement.)
If you haven’t noticed the stock market is having huge gains lately. Last month was the biggest gaining month in about 6 years I believe.
I honestly think this is a great time to make some money for those of us who have some to invest.
LMAO
Sure, Mac, and it’s all due to That One. Don’t forget to stock up unicorn feed and Kool-Aide, now that you’re rolling in the dough.
Is your other name, Billy Mays, perchance?
Nope! And it’s not Vince Offer either (btw Vince Offer is hilarious, he’s the “ShamWow” guy.)
I detest kool-aid by the way. I only drink coffee and water.
And I’m 100% serious when I say I more than doubled my money last week. Now I’m not saying I didn’t get lucky. Obviously I did. But it’s easier to get lucky when the overall market is moving up.
you obviously have very little money or are a crook….
Why do you say that? When I say doubled my money I only mean the money that was actually in the stock market. That wasn’t a huge amount – I went from about $3500 to about $7000 within one week.
I’m trying to get more serious about it now. I think I’m quite good playing the stock market game. I’ve always had a knack for numbers so to speak.
my brother in law did the same last week. seriously, what are your hot tips??? i don’t have the time to get into it.
Jonny,
I would be careful about being too confident about the market and your supposed talent to make money and boast about it to us..
I have a dear friend who always talked about how much she knew about how to invest in the market and was sure to tell everyone about how good at investing she was.
One day in Aug 2007 I told her to take all her money and buy gold…She didn’t listen and has since lost half her money.
Should have listened to Moss!
I don’t care if you opened up your head to feel the echo chamber within. Your love of money pales in comparison to my love of country, fool. You and your ilk are not patriots (hell, you’re just an automaton) but goose-stepping brownshirts with no future, no hope, and a lackey leading you off the cliff.
By the way-I don’t believe a single word you post.
Ferd, everything I’m posted is the truth. If you don’t believe it, that’s understandable. There’s a lot of BS “out there.”
I wouldn’t say I have some extreme love for money, I do have a love for the freedom that money brings though. And I enjoy the game that is the stock market. See some of us Obama supporters are anything but commies
I’m a believer in the free market (although I’m also a believer in reasonable regulations on that market.)
John “I get on my knees” for That One:
Pay my bills!
Stop the lovefest!
Plus the people I’ve had pleasure to know – millionaires and a billionaire – never EVER brag about their money to the large unwashed masses. The men don’t even let their wives know how much they’re worth – lest there be a divorce.
Their demeanor says it all.
Mr. Jonny Chump Change is acting the fool.
I’m not bragging about how much money I have. I did not say I am rich. In fact I stated I only had $7000 in the stock market (even after I doubled it.)
I suppose what I may be bragging about a little bit is my ability to pick stocks and play the stock market game. I do think I’m good at that. But I also think I have a lot more to learn, which is what I try to do every day. Learn from my successes and my failures.
You just can’t stop can you?
Obot is such a fitting name for these clowns. They really are like robots. They’re like some computer virus that gets sent out to PUMA sites.
Put every cent you have into it Jonny (what is it? $1.20?) Women are waking up and there will be payback. We make up over one half of the voting public and there is power and we will learn to harness it and use it against you. We will refuse to let perpetual adolescents rule our lives or government one day soon. Take your condescension and join the other idiots who think BO is the Messiah. Do you like Tombstone? Wyatt Earp: “We’re coming and HELL is coming with us.”
Hillary Clinton is your mother; she is your sister; she is your daughter. Barack Obama called your blessed mother a bitch; he gave your beloved sister the finger; he likened your precious daughter to dust he could whisk off his shoulder, and wipe off his shoes.
What kind of son/brother/father are you, that you would characterize criticism of these assaults on the females in your life as “silly”?
He certainly did not do that. That is a huge conclusion to jump to from the playing of one very popular song during an Obama rally.
It makes just as much sense to claim that Hillary Clinton was saying Obama would get assassinated for her RFK comments.
In the heat of the campaign of course people get worked up over silly little things.
But that’s the thing, the campaign is long gone now and it’s silly to stay mad about those things. Trust me a lot of Obama supporters were mad about the things Clinton was doing too, but that’s all in the past now. Campaign is a tough business.
Wow.
You’re in need of the newest in white jackets that sport the extra-long, fashionable sleeves that can be tied in the back.
No, for those of us who still have memories or read history, the past is merely a prelude.
And btw, you better stick those winnings under your pillow. The really fun stuff is yet to come.
Inflation anyone? I’m glad you believe in the free market. Now, if only 0bama would.
Strange bedfellows, stock boy! Live it up while you can.
Also I want to add, since you brought up my mother, that she likes Obama a lot more than I do. I am a lot more skeptical about him from the standpoint I realize he is a “politician” and that politicians have to do dirty things sometimes to get things done. I recently read FDR’s bio and that drove that point home. FDR did some very sketchy things as President but he did them all with the ultimate goal being to improve the country.
My mom on the other hand thinks Obama can basically do no wrong and likes to ask “What would Barack do?” She really does. Now do you have something negative to say about my mother?
Yeah–she had YOU.
Reasonably well played Ferd. My hat’s off to you good sir
No; I have nothing negative to say about your mother, assuming she is aware that BO has publicly conducted himself as a misogynist and either discounted his behavior because it wasn’t aimed at her or, accepts being marginalized by a man who would treat her in this way. I am not at all surprised by the acquiescence of women to their own denigration. Indeed, by doing so, they prove the point that women and men are very much alike. That is, they both buy into society’s subjugation of women. As for your cavalier response to your mother’s perception that BO “can do no wrong,” I would point out that, in my experience, even the man who has been beating his wife for years will intervene to protect her from another man intent on doing her bodily harm.
John “on his knees” for That One:
Isn’t your mother’s devotion to that one just like the Bushies devotion to W? Do you see ANYTHING wrong with that? If so, you may want to start an intervention immediately.
Stop the lovefest, man, geesh!
I see it as different because I think Obama is intelligent and thoughtful.
I think it’s OK to respect and admire someone who is worthy of respect and admiration and I do think Obama is worthy.
John “on his knees” for That One:
While you’re down there……
Well, from your response I can see you need an intervention since you don’t get it. Bushies admired and respected Bush– you ding dong.
Stop the lovefest!
I just don’t think most rational folks think that Obama is a misogynist in fact I think most people think he’s the opposite of that. I think a lot of women have actually noted the way Obama treats his wife so well. My fiancee noted that the way he looked at her seemed so genuine. I just don’t buy the whole Obama doesn’t like women because of three or four incidents from the campaign. To me saying Obama is a misogynist is just as silly as saying Bill Clinton is racist. They are just both obviously untrue to me.
[ADMINISTRATOR: Jonny, you're spamming the threads, just like you tried to spam our live chat tonight. Guess what! We've heard from the likes of you hundreds of times, and you're boring. I know you get this as an assignment, but lordy, can't you find a more productive way to volunteer or earn money? You're not going to change our minds, especially since you're kind of annoying. So you're on moderation now.]
Jonny, you remind me very much of someone who used to post a lot on NQ under a different name before the election. I could be wrong.
Yes, oowawa, I was thinking the same thing. They’re sending the trolls back b/c Obama is doing so poorly so they have to distract and deflect and then of course, attack. I think some of the old ones are back w/different names.
Me too, oowawa. Just thinking the same thing.
Thank you, administrator- I was getting oh, so tired of reading Jonny’s drivel.
Excellent jbjd; well said.
Do you get the idea that Jonny Chump Change and Obama take the same meds for schizophrenia with grandiose features?
Marijuana?
Jonny Money
The weed’s gotten to you…save some for Barry!
I wish he’d smoke some. That’s one thing I am upset with Obama about. Although I can understand it politically. It’d be nice if he stood up for common sense and ended prohibition just like FDR did in 1933. Maybe in the 2nd term.
The drug war is a failure
Legalize and tax hemp!
This is a troll trying desperately to control the conversation. Ignore him/her. The 0bama lovers must be getting nervous.
Btw, Amy, have a great time in Europe. I’m exceedingly jealous. I would love to go back for a visit. Stay safe. And thank you so much for that picture of Hillary at the top. It’s a keeper!
Dont bet your Money on it!
Obama has a fully self-serving, Chicago-type agenda. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass for Women’s rights–only insofar as the “sweeties” can bring home the votes! Wake up! He gave the midFinger to Hillary, discreetly, in N.C. stage. Watch it. It’s for posterity!
He snubbed Hillary at the STate Union address! See the photos. Documented!
Remember his “her claws are out”. And Obummer’s infamous sexism:
“Periodically, Hillary feels down and starts launching attacks against me”!!!
Obama’s a sexist Empty Suit. An affirmative action Prez whose nomination was cheated out of hte primary and engaged the millions of Geo. Soros and the media misogynist jerks like Chris Mathews and OLlbermann…He “won” the same way Dubya Bush “won”….Wake up!!!
No he did not give HER the finger. its documented.
and her claws are out plus all your other crap is just plain spin that YOU Obama haters put out there.
He did NOT snub her at the State of the Union address..again, its documented if you would bother to look at the whole picutre. SHE snubbed him on the Senate floor earlier – its documented!
Obama’s relationship with his own mother, his grandmother, his wife and daughters and those women who work with him says it all – and its not misogynistic. you haters have put that claim on him and will see it every time you look at him.
He does not have a history of screwing around with women right and left, while married. he does not screw them and leave em and then deny deny deny. That’s a real misogynist, someone who sees women first as a conquest and only when he captures them will he look at their brain. That’s Bill Clinton. its documented.
Ummmmm….. WHAT relationship with his mother? After she dumped him back in Hawaii (age 10), he hardly ever saw her again. And if it was that meaningful of a relationship, why wasn’t the book called “dreams of my mother”??? He didn’t even go to her funeral.
(It’s documented!)
There’s a new t.v. show called “Lie to Me,” which centers around the work of a special unit of psychologists who study facial micro-expressions to determine whether people are lying; or what their underlying emotions are as opposed to what they intend to portray to the rest of the world. (I watch it on Hulu.) One of the examples they used of not-so-masked hostility toward someone was the video of BO giving HRC the finger!
Wow…Ellen has an IV attached to her arm feeding her kool-aid.
Ellen, this might be a bit too hard for you to understand, but having alot of females in your family does N O T equal an ideological view of equal rights, equal pay, and feminist support.
DUUHHHHHH.
I’ll never forget, even when they raise uhbama up to the level of Lincoln 30 years from now
I know what really happened:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801130004
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/did_clinton_darken_obamas_skin.html
I hate obama; his use of racism against Hillary was the lowest of the low and he deserves to be sent back to the slums of Chicago.
Smellen:
The only thing DOCUMENTED is how certifiable you are. Did you escape the asylum or are you on a weekend pass?
Stop the slobbering lovefest and pay my bills!
P.S. Smellen:
You’re obviously one Obot that didn’t read either of That One’s books where he talks about his distate for his mother. I guess that’s why we have Dreams of My Father instead.
If Karzai doesn’t respect the lives or women and children, then our soldiers should stop protecting his life.
Enough!
CAROL HAKA
More photos of Hillary:
http://www.daylife.com/topic/Hillary_Clinton/photos/1/grid
or/and
http://www.daylife.com/photo/01YS9JKgdvgf9?q=Hillary+Clinton
Now I know why the media is pumping up Michelle in England.
Im sorry but in looking at Hillary I think she is doing a bit more than Michelle.
In fact one of the Outfits that Michelle wore I thing was a bit out of place for the time that it was worn. Since when do you wear a very sparkly outfit in early afternoon. They are calling Michelle the new fashion icon of America. Give me a break.
Kinnorthwest…
How dare you? Michele Obama is indeed The Fashion Icon! The Fashion Icon for CRUDE COMMENTARY…
I will never forgive her snide remarks to Hillary when presenting the awards to International Global Women of distinction at the STate House:
Mechele: “Secretary Clinton…..How I LOVE saying that…SECRETARY CLINTON…”
Hillary: Graciously keeping silent and smiling….
I would have loved to give AMechele a good punch on her fat lips….How lOW-CLASS, CHICAGO MOb-style….Well Mechelina didn’t work for the Mayor of Chicago and met her dubious mentors wihtout learning the dirty tricks….and passing them over to her nerdy Empty Suited Barry Soetoro Hawaian underling….
You know, I’m starting to think MO is clueless. I think (like BO) she believes her press, and thinks she’s truly charming people. I believe that Hillary is faking it with her, because she has to interact with her and isn’t going to air the dirty laundry. But Michelle thinks it’s all real, sisterhood, pals. One day MO will wake up and realize someone built her a castle out of air, and she was too clueless/narcissistic to know it.
Maybe street smarts don’t work in the upper echelon…. you need to be more attuned to the environment, more able to read subtle cues…
RRRA wrte “Well, I do believe Clinton cares about women and girls – she has demonstrated that passion time and time again. Obama? Not so much.”
Definitely correct. Actions speak louder than words and you are correct, the subtelty of “Obama administration” that means all who work for the Empty one.
This news is DISGUSTING. And the article and your are also correct. If Obama does not agree to this, he should be nixing it before the continued troops and aid. They knew this was happening and Obama allowed it without a fuss.
This is truly horrendous news. Now we get to envision, along with everything else, that little girl we saw in Naif’s video from Al Jazeera yesterday, Maqbulla Naseem, being now told she can’t go to school, her only sparkle, even though she has to borrow books to do so…or worse.
Just dandy.
Well, RRRA we will miss you muchly while you are gone, but enjoy yourself to the maximum and we’ll await your return safely.
Be well.
Thanks, Linda – for the good comment and the good wishes. It’s a vacation long planned and much anticipated.
It is horrendous news abt the new law Karzai signed. Women being forced to be at the mercy of their husbands in generally, but especially sexually is not just a step back, but a CENTURY back in terms of treatment of women.
It is shocking, and saddening…
I’ll have a few more posts before I go, but I hope you know I’ll miss reading your comments!
Hillary says
I saw O’Reilly tonight talking with a loonie from code pink. The code pink woman thinks we can just unilaterally surrender and then have a piece keeping force and make friends with the moderate Taliban.
What a fool!!
Since being in Afganistan we have helped women rights in ways they have never seen.
The left wing loonies don’t care about Afgani’s or women
Code Pink….You disgust me!!
Yes and then these “moderate Taliban”, that never existed until The One took office, can moderately behead or shoot women.
Oh yes, I’m sure if the News Exec’s wife from Upstate NY were still alive from her beheading, she would be just thrilled.
So horrible.
Agreed. And these losers are the very ones who would “Boo” Hillary when she would appear to speak, whether at TBA Conference or anything else.
I have an idea, lets send all Code Pink Ladies over to Afghanistan. NO NO WAIT, they might think we’re all like them. SCRATH THAT.
We should send the code pink wimps over to Afganistan in full regalia of pink outfits with their pepper spray.
They can meet up with the world peace keepers.
My question…Does pink uniforms go with blue UN helmets..
lmao
Code Pink could be our “secret weapon.” Even the Taliban will get out of town once they listen to the nonsense.
And yes, Seattle. Pink goes with blue.
The reason Code Pink believes this is because they have been talking to our President. He believes this too!
Obama paid the males on his Senate Staff an average of $6000 more annually for the same job as he did the females. That should have told you something about how he feels about women’s equality. Talk is cheap. No one in the MSM ever questioned him about his….they were too busy slobbering over him and having tingles running up their legs. Lots of the man-crush thing going on among the MSM. AND where is Larry Sinclair?
I think we are starting to see the undercutting of SoS Clinton. I have long expected this and wondered what form it might take.
Karzai is certainly in a difficult spot but he folded like a cheap suit in the face of minimal Taleban aggression. Can anyone doubt that he found out there was no actual support from Obama regarding womens’ rights?
This is a win-win for Obama he gets credibility with Karzai and the women-hating Afghani conservatives while, at the same time, cutting off Hillary at the knees.
Expect more of the same from Obama vis a vis foreign policy
Wonderful photo of SOS Clinton.
I really am interested in seeing what the U.S. will
be doing for the women of Afghanistan. How does a culture that has been in place for thousands of years change. The women have to change it. God knows that will be a battle that may take generations to win. Many will be tortured, raped and killed, but that is happening in Afghanistan now. I wish my tax dollars were not going to this hellhole and cruel regime.
Know what the NYT thinks about Clinton as Secretary of State?
They’re doing their best to minimize her.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/world/europe/02diplo.html?ref=world
THE NYT street cred is dropping daily — they are trying desperately to discredit Levin’s book — which is #1 on their bestseller list — which must be driving them nuts.
The Grey Lady is not what she once was.
Sorry, I won’t even click on a link for the NY Times anymore.
they can’t add me to their count.
RE:Comment by standard | 2009-04-02 22:24:54
“Know what the NYT thinks about Clinton as Secretary of State?
They’re doing their best to minimize her.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/
world/europe/02diplo.html?ref=world
Went to the NYT link…but didn’t read the article. Just seeing the photo of Hillary smiling and standing between those two made me want to throw up. I think she has “minimized” herself…just by becoming part of the Obama administration.
Speaking of Women’s Rights and Afghanistan, would these be the moderate Taliban we keep hearing about?
RRRAmy, Bon voyage, safe travels.
Thankgoodness I got my tax refund today before the country completely goes broke, I think I will take it out of the bank and put it in a can in my back yard!
Bon Voyage, Rev. Amy—-have a happy and well-deserved vacation.
And thanks for this excellent article. And for posting the best picture of Hillary I’ve ever seen! It’s wonderful!
Safe travels, mon ami.
I love that picture of Hillary
So full of life and having a great time!
Thanks, y’all! I appreciate it! You’re stuck with me for a few more days, though!
When I got that photo, I was so taken by her vitality. Here she is, not having had a vacation AT ALL since the Primaries (compared to Obama’s, what, four now since he’s been in office, and two before he took office), and she SHINES!
Great Post, Rev. Amy.
Thanks for shining the light on the state of the Status of Women in Afghanistan (Iraq and Pakistan
are not much better). Have a good time in Europe, start practicing saying “I’m from Canada”..
Enjoy your trip. Glad you solved the sitter problem.
Go Hillary.
Afghanistan:
Carter Finances the Invasion of Islamic Terrorists
In the late 1970’s Afghanistan was ruled by a nationalist secular regime allied with the Soviet Union. The regime promoted gender equality, free universal education for women and men, agrarian reform including the redistribution of feudal estates to poor peasants, the separation of religion and the state and adopted an independent foreign policy with a Soviet tilt.
Beginning at least as early as 1979, the U.S., Pakistan and Saudi Arabia orchestrated a massive international recruiting campaign of Islamic fundamentalist to engage in a “Jihad” against the “atheistic communist regime.” Tens of thousands were recruited, armed by the U.S., financed by Saudi Arabia and trained by the CIA and Pakistani Intelligence. Pakistan opened its frontiers to the flood of armed invaders. Internally, the displaced Mullahs, horrified by the equality and education of women, not to speak of the expropriation of their huge land holdings, joined the Jihad en masse.
The Carter Presidency (and not Reagan) was responsible for the organization, financing, training of the Islamic uprising and the terror campaign which followed. Zbig Brzezinski later wrote of the U.S./Afghanistan campaign as one of the high points in U.S. Cold War diplomacy—it provoked Soviet intervention on behalf of the secular Afghan ally.
Even when confronted with the consequences of the total devastation of Afghanistan, the rise of the Taliban and Al Qaeda and 9/11, Carter’s former National Security Adviser, Brzezinski replied that these were marginal costs in comparison with a war, which successfully hastened the fall of the Soviet Union.
Yes, Carter and Brezinski created the monster, though Reagan did his best to feed it as well, and praised the brave Taliban standing up to the commies.
The USA, in meddling in other countries internal politics, never seems to learn this lesson: be careful what you wish for.
Great photo of Hillary. Glad she was in Europe to represent the US.
Have a wonderful vacation RRRAmy! We’ll miss you here at NQ! Of course upon your return we expect an immediate update on the pups! They are growing so quickly they’ll be driving by the time you get back!
LOL – no doubt, Jackarooty! They can actually run now without falling down – at least most of the time!
Sadly, some of them have already been spoken for, and will be in their new homes by the time I return. I suppose it is better this way, instead of the new owners trying to walk with me clutching their ankles as they walk away (I can hardly talk abt it). They have brought me more joy than I could have possibly imagined. I am *hoping* there will be one left (though it’s not likely – they are pretty darn cute). And I thank you for your continued interest in them!
We’re going to take a bunch of photos tomorrow, maybe even a video. I’ll try to get it up before I go.
Marie Cocco was very vocal about how women candidates were treated during the primaries and general election. I definitely respect her writing and am saddened to read this particular article because I know that it must be accurate.
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