What is also “So sad” UBM is that you, and people like you, are now becoming increasingly desperate apologists for a man/child with the general regard and esteem of a beached squid. When Joe Biden said that 0bama was articulate, he may have had an alternate definition of articulate in mind. 0bama has displayed a remarkable ability to articulate at the waste when kissing the rings and asses of other World leaders. And now you UBM have displayed the same talent with your multiple tochis dives into 0bama’s cloaca.

What do you think about Obama giving up economic soverignty by allowing china greater authority which will lead to the rise of the Yuan and the collapse of the US dollar?

What do you think of Obama and his minions playing the class warfare card?

Remember what I said to you throughout the campaign
Obama is bad for business!!
Obama is naive to the threats facing this country.
When you run on a campaign of retreat and defeat of America in the world
You get defeat!!!

Self Fulfilling Prophesy

And unfortunately, I think you’re right that B0 does, on some level–conscious or unconscious, I have no idea–want to destroy America. My question is how do we stop this big train.

But it’s late now, and I wish you a good rest. I’ve had a long day but I have appreciated the threads of this conversation.

I’m socially progressive because I support personal liberty, including the right of gay people to marry if they choose, for women to determine whether or not they give birth, and for citizens to be largely free of government coercion and surveillance. I think we have a long way to go in the U.S. in terms of maximizing the potential of individuals and I’d like to see us do better in that regard.

I’m fiscally conservative because I support paying for social services as you create/use them,keeping tax rates low, creating as few impediments to entrepreneurship and job creation as possible, and balancing the budget. I also think entitlements should be limited (and that includes corporate welfare-but not social security).

Socially progressive does not automatically mean agreeing to massive social spending that is wasteful or ineffective. Fiscally conservative does not necessarily mean axing social programs when they are cost effective or add some other valuable element to society. It’s not inconsistent to be both, maybe you should consider it.

I wish I had a buck for every time I’ve heard or read a liberal describe themselves as “fiscally conservative but socially progressive.” I doubt they even know what they are saying.