sarkozy to obama: mind your own business (turkey)
By American Girl in Italy on April 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM in Barack Obama, European Union, Turkey
Speaking in Prague before his trip to Ankara, Obama pushed for Turkey’s membership into the EU. “The United States and Europe must approach Muslims as our friends, neighbors and partners in fighting injustice, intolerance and violence, forging a relationship based on mutual respect and mutual interests,” Obama told the summit.
“Moving forward toward Turkish membership in the EU would be an important signal of your (EU) commitment to this agenda and ensure that we continue to anchor Turkey firmly in Europe,” he told EU leaders.
Obama’s remarks didn’t sit too well with his new BFF, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who said in an interview “it is up to member-states of the European Union to decide” on whether Turkey should be allowed to join. Sarkozy is opposed to to membership for Turkey.
“I still am and I think I can say that the immense majority of member states shares the position of France,” he said. “Turkey is a very great country, an ally of Europe, an ally of the United States. It will stay a privileged partner. My position hasn’t changed and it won’t change,” he said.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who is also leery about admitting a country that would replace Germany as the EU’s biggest member, said EU members were still “wrestling” over whether Ankara should be welcomed as a full member state or have some sort of “privileged partnership” – a German proposal Turkey has flatly rejected in the past.
The Clinton and Bush administrations supported Turkey’s bid for membership, calling it a crucial bridge between the West and Islam. But, this seems a lot easier to support, when you don’t live so nearby, and it doesn’t affect your borders.
Opposition to Turkey joining the EU range from their “human rights record, including their long campaign against Kurdish separatists, fears of being flooded with Turkish immigrants, and an unresolved dispute over Turkish backed Northern Cyprus.”
“For many Europeans, the cultural and religious differences between Turkey and traditionally Christian Europe are a key worry. While constitutionally a secular state, Turkey’s population is 99 percent Muslim.”
Allowing Turkey to join the EU opens all the European borders to Turkey, and there would no longer be any controls over who comes and goes. And this bothers a lot of Europeans.
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said he backed Obama’s support for EU membership for Turkey, telling reporters he was confident that current obstacles holding back Ankara’s talks with Brussels could be solved.
I must say, I agree with Sarkozy. I don’t feel the US should be involved, or pressuring the EU on who to accept. They are not the ones who have to deal with the end results. To me, it would be the equivalant of Europe telling the US to open up the border with Mexico.
Although he rode in on his unity pony, with his campaign speech loaded on the teleprompter (including the yes we can bit), it seems Obama will have his work cut out for him. There are still many who oppose the US, and their involvement around the world. Protestors in Turkey took to the streets protesting Obama’s visit.
See also: Another NoQuarter story about the protests.
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That One needs to spend more time here working in lieu of lecturing the EU and off-gassing constantly. What a consummate blowhard.
Ferd, how do you expect him to get elected Supreme EWWW (Emperor of the Whole Wide World) if he doesn’t campaign?
LMAO. EWWW!
yes! He should stop lecturing the EU. They know better than this muslim prez the dangers of alllowing the hordes of Turkish sexist barbarians in their gates.
Genocide of Armenians, rapes of Kurdish and Greek-Cypriot women by Turkish soldiers, the non-existence of Human Rights in Turkey and the jailing of all opponents, and especially women Turkish journalists. Yup! The Oblowblabla Prez wants his Turkish gangrapists in Europe! No bloody way as long as Angela and Nicholas are there to keep the European gates firmly shut! Thank God!….
word.
He’s a buffoon. Period. It’s Clown College at the White House. The guy doesn’t even know Austrians speak German. WTF?
the very irony of apologizing for Americas arrogance…
and then he turning around and interfering in their business by asking that they include Turkey into the EU…
If that is not arrogance then what is?
He just can do no right by me..He is a liar, a usurper and a low class creep! [and also his porky wife by default]
Well, not to come to his defense, but he just reads out loud whatever is currently on his TelePrompTer.
You mean that was TOTUS and not POTUS..
I am incresingly having more trouble telling them apart…lol
Okay – let’s see if I get this right. Clinton and Bush administrations said the EU should accept Turkey for membership. No problem.
Now, Obama has the audacity to say he thinks the EU should admit Turkey. And now its how dare he tell the EU what to do. What is the difference? Could it be because he is ’shhhh a closet muslim’ according to larrys’ readers? and there must be a sinister reason for his saying this?
you guys are so obvious its sickening. there is no story here at all – its nothing and that’s why the MSM does not pick up on it!!
Why do you insist on visiting if you’re sickened by what goes on here, Ellen? Seems like the only person with a problem is you, but then we already knew that.
Just wondering when you were going to figure that out.
Apart from all the arguments listed why Turkey must not joint the EU, the main point is that Turkey is not a European country and the EU is not a club where you can join provided that your application is endorsed by powerful friends. Turks are not European, neither geographically nor culturally.
While the Clinton and Bush administrations might have supported Turkey’s application to membership because it serves the interest of the US to be in good terms with Turkey, neither Clinton nor Bush has expressed it in such an insistent and arrogant manner…!
The title of the first video is “Obama makes sex with Sarkozy…….” LOL Something got lost in translation.
LMAO.
Or not…
i know, that cracked me up too. not sure what that was all about. haha
Or maybe the original video was edited . . .
WAIT! Shouldn’t there be a comma between business and turkey?
there was originally, but i decided to make it less obvious. hahah
Obama talks from both sides of his mouth.
When he was a young, fresh, incompetent Senator he condemned Turkey’s Genocide of 2 million Armenians after the First War and promised to bring some sense to the Turks for their piggish denial of this historical fact.
Now that Barrack is a young, fresh, incompetent President, he says that Turkey and Armenia should just sort this out between them! My, how time and the president’s undeserved job change this Chicago political rat-sewer product!
Oblablah should apologize to everyone who understands the barbaric holocaust that the Armenians suffered in the hands of the brutish muslim Turks was, in fact, genocide.
The Turkish monsters who dug mass graves and raped millions of innocent Armenians and destroyed their lives and villages from the face of the earth back then should be made accountable. They cannot live in denial of this holocaust they caused–any more than the German Nazi monsters can live in denial of their extermination of their innocent Jewish victims in World War II.
SHAME on Obama for changing his tune on a historical fact that first has to be acknowledged by a brutish, sexist Turkish Dictatorship he wants to befriend–before healing can begin. As for Barack’s own healing, well, we have to wait until this idiot finishes his Bushian Third Term of Incompetence!
Senator he condemned Turkey’s Genocide of 2 million Armenians after the First War and promised to bring some sense to the Turks for their piggish denial of this historical fact.
I have some protien memory jarred loose from this Mary. Did not BO not vote for the resolution?
Obama is turning into the unwelcome mother in law who tells everyone how to cook, clean, and raise children.
He waltzes over there as if he knows ALL about any situation and adds his worthless two cents. There’s a word for it: ARROGANCE!
Buzz, are you saying that the POTUS is like . . . MARIE VARONE? Then our problem is even worse than I thought.
Oh, typical narcissist projection on others. When he said Americans are arrogant, he meant he is very arrogant. Yep, typical narcissist projection.
And yep, I am qualified. I was married to an NPD for 13 years, long, horrific years!
I, too was married to one for 10 years. It was hell on earth. And That One behaves just as she did/does.
I understand that I’m a knuckle dragging Republican, and my vote for McCain was a waste, but if our President, or one of his minions, can please explain this logic to me, I’d be grateful:
How does he say that Americans should butt out of Europe’s affairs, and then tell Europe that they should admit Turkey? This is the same sort of logic that he displayed in his reaction/response to the NK missile launch. Amazing.
To quote Casey Stengle’s observation about one of his ball players on the 1962 Mets: “His limitations are limitless.”
Nous les Français nous sommes nombreux à être furieux contre BHO, au sujet de la Turquie, pour qui se prend-t-il ce type ?
I got so much entertainment out of watching Sarkozy’s facial expressions around Barky. Reminded me so much of Bill Clinton with Boris Yeltsin. Bill always had this amused looked on his face, like he was trying hard not to burst out laughing. Sarkozy- same thing.
The brutal Turkish Dictatorship has put in jail every Turkish journalist who dares to speak the Truth about their KURDISH,ARMENIAN AND GREEK-CYPRIOT GENOCIDES COMMITTED BY THE BARBARIC MUSLIM-FANATICIZED TURKISH GOVERNMENT that was so loved by Bush.
Obama should shut the hell up. He is as ignorant of the history of the Greek-Cypriots, Kurds and Armenians in the hands of the TURKISH MISOGYNIST BARBARIANS as Bush was.
Obama should hang his head in shame for allowing the Turks to get away with murder!
The Turks have brought in thousands of their rapist-soldiers in northern (formerly Christian) Cyprus to alter the Greek-Cypriot ethnic makeup. Kissinger, the mass murderer of Nixon, allowed this mess on the ISLAND OF APHRODITE!
The Kurds are jailed and their villages have been exterminated by the hudnreds–under Bushian eyes.
The Armenians were slaughtered by the millions by these muslim-misogynist hordes.
Obama must cut Turkey’s leash now. And acknowledge the GENOCIDE AND RAPES OF ARMENIANS! History has hte pictures that tell the frightening tale of mass rapes and horrible crimes against Armenian, Kurdish and Greek-Cypriot Women. Who speaks up for these victims? Not Barack The Sexist Idiot!
Obama’s cluelessness about History is phenomenal. It is only surpassed by his cluelessness about women’s issues. What a jerk!
OBAMA CONDONES GENOCIDE OF ARMENIANS, RAPES OF KURDISH WOMEN AND THE BRUTAL OCCUPATION OF NORTHERN CYPRUS (formerly Christian) BY TURKISH MUSLIM BRUTES
What irony, I used to live in Glendale, CA a large Armenian population, how they swooned over the One. Now they finally see what a farce BO is, too sad its too late for the Armenians and Americans to get their votes back. and to add insult to injury they are about to commenerate the genocide this month.
Besides the hilarious title of the video, I also had a laugh looking at Obama’s face of disbelief and annoyance when he is confronted by protesters. He probably thought that every country is fascinated with him. What an arrogant and disgusting fool!
I find Sarkozy charming in a very euro/continental sort of way.
I definitely envision the euro heads of state having a great belly laugh over the absolute political rube the Americans supposedly elected as president.
Obama’s better career choice would have been Reverend rather than President.
Buzz Latte
You’re pure Genius. And I say this and truly mean it. I’ve often thought of Barry Soetoro sitting with Mrs. Barky in Uncle Rev. Jeremiah’s Church of Trinity listening and copying his mannerisms.
Have you noticed he’s at his best when he’s waving his finger and turning his head, just like uncle Jeremiah!?
He should have been a Preacher and not practise at our expense in Washington.
During the campaign he kept saying “Turkey should acknowledge its genocide of millions of Armenians”. He was playing up to a sizeable Armenian constituency. Now in militant Turkey, he changes his tune. What a flip-flopper this misogynist piece of Bushian crap he is…The other side of the Bush Incompetence Coin..but with a touch of continental stupidity…ugh
I honestly don’t get what he said that was so wrong about EU.. Support for Turkish membership has been the strong US policy, of every president at least since H.W. Bush…
HELLO>>>> EU stands for European Union. Since when is Turkey located in Europe? It’s in another continent for Gawd’s sake!!!
And while you’re pondering on that, imagine Sarkozy, Brown or Merkel coming to visit Mexico and declaring in a speech live on every major American TV chanel that the US have to erase their border with Mexico and incorporate Mexico in the US because Mexico is part of North America (NOT).
I like Obama referring to the (non-existent) Austrian language. When we first moved to the US a kindergarten friend of my daughter’s asked her to “say something in Canadian”. Obama should know better.
There’s a lot of — I don’t know what the term is in Austrian — wheeling and dealing –
The whole mindset of that statement is really so bizarre. Was the expectation ever raised that Obama would be able to switch between reasonably universal English and slightly idiomatic terms in a foreign tongue ? Or rather trying to unconsciously impress upon us zombies all that a language, however unreal, was being learned ? Maybe in that sense “I don’t know how to say this in German…” would have been too obvious. hehe
Obama needs to butt out. If he actually knew anything about these subjects, then his commments might be taken more seriously, but they’re just words he reads from his TOTUS. He’s so ignorant he doesn’t even know he’s being arrogant.
How can you “anchor Turkey in Europe” when Turkey is not IN Europe? Maybe we could just anchor Turkey in the US and cut out the middleman.
Why would the EU want to bring in another country that would need huge infusions of money, and a non-European country at that? What would be next, Syria? Israel? Maybe if the whole middle east joins the EU, that will resolve all the problems there.
“Obama needs to butt out. If he actually knew anything about these subjects, then his commments might be taken more seriously, but they’re just words he reads from his TOTUS. He’s so ignorant he doesn’t even know he’s being arrogant.”
yep; i can’t take anything he says seriously, because he has no clue what he’s talking about.
“He’s so ignorant he doesn’t even know he’s being arrogant” You can say that again. But isn’t it the height of audacity that the self proclaimed “student of the world” doesn’t have a clue of the history between East and West, Europe and Turkey? Let start at the beginning for Barky in the 4th century the Roman Empire split in two…..
Sandy78,
Unfortunately, Turkey IS IN Europe.
Sorry….
HELL NO….look at a map
C’est faux ! il s’agit de 2 ou 3 kilomètres à la frontière de la Bulgarie, et si on considère, qu’une frontière est importante on pourrait demander au Brésil d’entrer dans l’Europe car il a une immense frontière avec la Guyane française !!!………. et donc il serait prioritaire
Thank you for that sane comment. And I love the idea of cutting the Middleman… I’ll pass it on.
The very first, very real , totally politically incorrect, but since when the french paid even lip service to PC- reason why France opposes Turkey is simply religious. tHEY CONSIDER that they have enough muslims to deal with, from north africa former colonies, women who never tried to learn to speak french as opposite to spanish, italian, pole, eastern europe immigrants…
as it is there is still a very close follow up of what happens in french churches, templs, synagogues etc – the home ministry has a special branch called the ministry of the cults. and they take a dim view of a religion which does not speak the home language.
hEBREW IS NOT A PROBLEM AS jews despite bad times have been part of the national scenery as early as the 500ys- where they -already-suffered some sort of pogroms frm dark ages merowigian kings.
But muslims with women in veils do offend the non muslim french. tHEY HAVE SOME TURKS WHO SEEM TO GET MORE INTEGRATED THAN THE north africans and if france was not burdened by second generation north african muslims , she would probably welcomed turkey as it must be said the 2 countries have a diplomatic bond going way back to…1532! BUT ALAS it cant be and as the US knows: however small and irrelevant, the freedom fries cheese eating surrendering monkeys can be pretty stubborn….
You’re an idiot!!! And an ignorant at that. Stick with the threat of Mexico government collapsing at our frontiers. That should keep our little mind busy enough on the principle of National Sovereignty.
Do you really want to see what the Turks are all about and why there are no human rights in their country, no women’s rights and a brutish Dictatorship?
See this film 1922 about the gang raping and pillage and burning of Armenian and Greek Orthodox Churches (still going on in Izmir and Instanbul!). There were 3.5 million Greek Orthodox residents in pre-WorldWar II Turkey. This was before the Genocide Project! And the bloody Turks want to DENY this historical fact–with Barky’s help!
Europe doesn’t need Lectures from this ‘blowhard’ idiot!
I think it strange how some countries are known based on their religion and others are not. Turkey is muslim. Very strange concept.
This coming from the buffoon who said “I don’t speak Austrian.” Dumbass.
This is a real can of worms. Trying to mix the battle for economic strength (potential EU membership and what is means to current members) with political expediency is for grown-ups only and baby O should stay out of it. Pelosi has a huge Armenian constituency that is pressuring her to pass this ‘resolution’. Obama jumped on as a political favor. He neither knows nor cares about world history. But you can see from some posts above what a hot button issue it is.
I do not think Congress should mess about with history–that’s what historians are for. Congress should be working on our economic problems instead of pandering to various lobbies.
Obama is like a deer in the headlights over there.
lota wheeling and dealing going on..
Armenian American activists today said that President Obama’s refusal to pushing Turkey to recognize its genocide against Armenians — or to even used the “g” word — fell “far short of the clear promise he made as a candidate that he would, as President, fully and unequivocally recognize this crime against humanity.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/candidate-obama.html
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