Martial law on the web
By Eastan McNeal on April 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM in Current Affairs
Does anyone find it unusually coincidental that the same day a new, over-reaching cybersecurity bill is introduced a huge “BE VERY AFRAID” story hits the Wall Street Journal.
Typically news like this is kept secret by the government. But, for some undisclosed reason, an un-named a senior intelligence official told the newspaper all about the threat.
I think the attack story is a planted from the White House. Obama wants total control of the internet and, since the introductory drafts of his new cybersecurity bill have been reviewed, many technology publications have been critical of the idea that:
A new cybersecurity bill being proposed would give the President emergency authority to halt web traffic and access private data, effectively declaring martial law on the web.
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which was introduced by Sens. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), would empower the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) to establish “measurable and auditable” security standards for all networks and systems run by federal agencies, government contractors and businesses that support critical infrastructure services. Under this act the president would … have the authority to declare a “cybersecurity emergency.”
Policing private networks
It’s unclear how industry will respond to the bill, though, since it effectively allows the federal government to shut down private computer networks.“The cybersecurity threat is real, but such a drastic federal intervention in private communications technology and networks could harm both security and privacy,” said Leslie Harris, CEO of the Center for Democracy and Technology, an industry group.
Industry groups say the bill doesn’t provide enough detail on what is considered “critical infrastructure.”Critics also say imposing uniform standards on computer networks could be counterproductive: Hackers who find a way around the government’s defenses would have unfettered access to critical networks.
The National Institute of Standards and Technology. NIST would be in charge of setting standards for the government and the private sector. But many experts have been critical of the agency, saying its current cybersecurity guidance isn’t based on data about actual attacks.
“NIST doesn’t have current attack and threat knowledge,” Alan Paller, director of the SANS Institute, a Maryland-based computer security research firm said. “If you allow them to do the threat standards, you’re going to be defending against the wrong thing.”
Read the source: Federal Times
Bertrand Russell once wrote that the power of influence and public persuasion can equal or best the power gained through economic or military strength. News organizations, especially those “damagingly” critical of WH policy, could be deemed a critical network (part of our information infrastructure) and the govt could shut down or filter news and opinions, as is done in China cyber cafes. This site would not be safe.
The WH thought that we all would be occupied with the AIG type news and nobody would even see the new cyber bill hit the floor. When the bill met with resistance, in my opinion, the WH decided to ‘leak’ the fearful news that our private networks (power companies) are under cyber attack and we should therefore trust in the one to take care of us by letting him dribble the internet.
This administration’s approach to governing is much like the orchestration of media events during the campaign. I once accused GWB of having someone read to him Plato’s “Republic” and suggested that he thought it was a handbook on controlling the masses. I now fear that someone gave Obama a Readers Digest copy of Russell’s “Power” and told him to focus on the chapter on “spin doctoring” (as described by Samuel Brittan)
The contemporary role of “spin doctors” would not have surprised Russell who writes eloquently about power behind the scenes: courtiers, intriguers, spies and wire pullers. The system in which they reign supreme, he observes, is unlikely to promote the general welfare. — Samuel Brittan
“Barack” says his handlers “Just take care of your role in the power of mass persuasion and we will take care of everything else, such as war, money and the power of information.”
Some of you may argue that Russell once noted that: The only satisfactory way ahead was “the abolition of national sovereignty and national armed forces and the substitution of a single international government.” Yes, he said that. But, it is also then fair to add this Russell quote:
From Samuel Brittans’s introduction to “Power.”
For me the clarion call is the statement in the penultimate chapter: “For my part, I consider that whatever is good or bad is embodied in individuals, not primarily in communities.” This is a refreshing antidote to the communitarianism of so many on the centre-left. The statement needs also to be pondered by those on the right who are overfond of Burke’s “little platoons” or who preach the gospel of civic conservatism.
As Russell elaborates a few pages later: “The really valuable things in human life are individual, not such things that happen on a battlefield or in the clash of politics or in the regimented march of masses of men towards an externally imposed goal. The organised life of a community is necessary, but it is necessary as a mechanism, not something to be valued on its own account.”
(my bolding above)
I value my individual rights and I do not like it when my government uses smoke and mirrors to try to steal even the most minuscule morsels I still have on my patriotic plate.
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Isn’t that like illegal search and seizure or something?
and people were worried about Bush? *snort*.
Oh good grief. I said Obama would be Bush on steroids. Not a peep from so-called progressives/liberals.
When Bush tried this type of power grab the screams from the major left-wing bloggers were deafening.
Obama does the same or worse? Crickets….
Well Candymarl, I assume that sites such as HuffPo & DK do not feel themselves threatened, since their Leader is in charge.
But as Eastan notes, “This site would not be safe.” I’m sure we could easily compile a list of the other sites that “would not be safe.” And as for the folks who post regularly on these “unsafe” sites? Well, for the most part we’re “old and in the way,” so once our platforms are eliminated, we’ll likely just fade away . . .
Oh no, oowawa. We had a progressive/so far Left I’m-falling-off-the-world comment yesterday on another thread:
The pirate situation is the fault of the United States and we shouldn’t blame the pirates because America and the West have so sorely dealt with Somalia in the past.
I kid you not. It’s our fault.
The pretzel-twisting logic is breathtaking. But we live in a very twisted world at the moment.
Incredible!
Well, shiver me timbers, Peggy Sue, I could get into this “hug-a-pirate” program, but the body odor is just a bit off-putting . . .
I know the pirates are OT, but why the hell did they send in the FBI rather than a SEAL team? We don’t know where their mother ship is? Good lord, why do we ahve all those satellites? Why is that mother ship still floating?
Pirates OT? I thought we were talking about banks and credit card companies! I’ll bet the CEO of Wells Fargo has tentacles all over his face, the the other execs turn into rotting corpses in the moonlight . . .
Whooops–looks like I drifted into the wrong thread . . . Avast, nowadays there’s pirates everywhere you look . . .
I’ve also thought that the whole electrical grid story was a plant from the WH to insure the micro brained would fall for it and demand the government protect us.
Americans not only need to grow a pair they also need to fluff a few neurological brain dendrites and start thinking.
But, you forget–we didn’t get any outrage from the right-wing/neocon side when Dubya was pulling this. Nope. All we got from them were accusations of “traitor” and “you don’t love this country” when anyone dared criticize the Bush Administration (that is, when they weren’t howling “9/11″ to justify the Bush Administration’s outrages).
Good lord, when are you going to deal with the world NOW, rather than keep excusing the left’s destruction of this country because of Bush? Bush is gone. Wake the hell up. If you care about your country, then start dealing with the here and now. No one can blame Bush anymore. These people are 100 times worse.
First off, YOU and some of your other like-minded people have no problem slamming the Democrats during their 2 years under Dubya (even though that is not “NOW”). The Democrats during that time were willing participants in the Dubya Administration, doing very little to rein in Dubya’s ambitions (and, you might remember that it was Dubya who wanted FISA so badly and got it with the help of some conservative Democrats, plus Obama).
Secondly, you jerkwad, I was pointing out how things are really no different. (Of course, you’ve refused to deal with how this country’s problems BEGAN with Dubya. You let him off the hook for EVERYTHING that he started because it’s not politically convenient for you.)
Third, you and your ilk had no problems putting blame on the Clinton Administration.
Jose, go get a drink you nutjob. I didn’t vote for Bush dumb dumb…And I don’t give a crap about your revisionist history and your constant slams that the GOP has caused everything down to your jock itch. I am merely stating that you are not doing the country any good by sitting on your ass whining about Bush all day. Do something to stop the crap that’s going on. Period. Use your to deal with that we’re living through now, jerkwad, because this is more dangerous than Bush ever could have been. You people who can’t get off the party meme are contributing to the problem. Period.
JozefAL,
I agree with you, there’s plenty of blame to go around. It’s not for nothing that we think BOjob is W II (or maybe that should be WWIII).
Oh, please, that excuse is gone. You lknow damn well that most of us here yelled our heads off at Bush’s power grabs – that has been explained to you REPEATEDLY.
You are a mental midget and worse then my kids. How fucking OLD are you? Really, are you like, 12 or something?
Do I need to tell you the same thing I told my children growing up, when they tried to pull that: “But…but….he/she did such and such!” when I was talking to them about THEIR behavior?
Since you seem to be a child, I guess I need to: “I am not talking about what your brother did – that is not the subject here. I am talking about YOU.”
I’m sorry that your ability to reason in that of a 2-year old, you ignorant shit. (If you want to go all potty-mouth, I’ll sling it right back.)
Did you fucking miss the “right-wing/neocon” phrase, you stupid fuck? Apparently you did. This site is NOT “right-wing/neocon”. Hillary is not (and never was) “right-wing/neocon”.
If you bothered to actually read anything, my response was to show that “nothing has changed”. But, again, your reading comprehension skills are very poor.
If it makes it easier for you, try this:
The left is no different from the right when it comes to defending their leader.
Was that clear enough for you, you piece of filth? Try learning how to THINK about what you read.
LMAO! Oh, Lord, I love tantrums. They’re cute.
So, JozefAl, the argument is that it’s okay for the Dems to pull out the Neocon playbook of dirty tricks, lies and smoke and mirrors.
Tit for tat, sort of thing. Throw principle out the window. Do anything necessary in order to get your own twisted ideology on the map.
Yeah, that makes the world a whole lot better.
Didn’t say it did. But, I’m getting tired of all these right-wingers coming here simply to pile more shit on progressives while ignoring what THEIR people did for the last 8 fucking years.
It seems that far too many of the comments on this site are coming from right-wingers who are trying to hijack NoQuarter and turn it into just another right-wing Obama-bashing and Democrat-bashing website while completely ignoring the woes that THEIR people initiated. Dubya tried this same bullshit about taking over the internet, and I didn’t hear much from the far right against it. No, from them it was “if you’ve got nothing to hide, then you don’t need to worry”. The problem for me is that there are some things that the government DOESN’T need to know about me. The gov’t doesn’t need to know with whom I communicate, whether by IM or e-mail or anonymously through a website like this–at least not without going through the proper LEGAL procedures, and even then, they need to have some very strong reasons for going to the courts. If I’m under a criminal indictment, fine–check my computer records and history, whatever. But until such time, NO ONE in the gov’t (whether it’s Obama now or Dubya then) has any reason to be checking on me.
And as to “throw principle out the window”, please tell me that you don’t honestly believe that Obama has “principles”. We got far too much crap thrown out because of Dubya’s rush to “keep this country safe”, and, it seems to me that if this cybersecurity bill had been pushed through by a GOP Congress, the right-wing Obama critics here would be trolling this site claiming that we’re worrying over nothing and pulling the same old “if you’ve got nothing to hid” trope that they used during the 8 years of Bushite control.
The last eight years is history. Fixating on it is a trap. We live in the present… those of us who are alive.
Hey, JosefAl:
This may surprise you but you and I agree on this point:
I’m sick of the right-wing apologists. I didn’t like Bush and I liked Cheney even less.
But I don’t like, nor do I trust Barack Obama. In fact, I’ve lost trust in the party I spent a life supporting: The Democratic Party.
I do not believe either party at this point, not at their present partisan levels.
It’s hard to tell the difference between the Dems and Repubs anymore, except for the ideological buzz words they keep throwing around.
And here, you’re absolutely correct again: If in fact, this was being pushed by the Republicans, the whole cybersecurity issue, the right-wingers would be beating the drums and saying it was a great idea and if you don’t buy it then you’re not a “real” American. You’re not a patriot.
We heard it for eight years.
But being supported by the Dems [possible control of web-based info] makes it no better. But again we agree, the government regardless of the party has “no” right to my personal information [beyond what they have already]. I’ve never committed a crime, I pay my taxes and I take my privacy very seriously. I don’t expect anyone to be reading my private mail or tapping my phone [just in case]. I don’t care how dangerous the world is.
As to not believing that Obama has principles? I have no idea who this man is, a man without an extensive written record, a man whose resume is thin to say the least, a man whose mystery and inexperience was sold as a virtue.
They were never good enough reasons to vote for the man. He never earned my trust as a voter. Still hasn’t.
” I’m getting tired of all these right-wingers coming here simply to pile more shit on progressives while ignoring what THEIR people did for the last 8 fucking years.”
JozefAL, d’accord encore.
Bush started it, BOjob is trying to finish us off.
Peggy Sue, Well put!
Yes, and now it’s “you don’t love Obama” and “it’s America’s fault” or “you’re a racist”. Different phrases but the same attitude and the ability to make excuses.
Other side of the same coin.
EXACTLY, candymarl. I’m glad that someone understands what I was going for.
There’s an epigram that applies so perfectly in politics: “Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose“. Those of us who were Hillary supporters in 2008 knew that applied so well to Obama. Unfortunately, the Obama fans didn’t get it, and the current right-wing Obama-bashers (who still call Obama a “liberal” or describe him as a “progressive”) don’t want to accept it, because they honestly believe that Bush was some type of a hero.
(For the ignorant, the above French phrase literally means, “The more it changes, the more it’s the same thing”. It’s credited to Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Kerr.)
So not speaking French is a sign of ignorance?
But CandyMarl, it’s “OUR” FISA now.
It was not that our constituional rights are being trampled. No, the “left” incensed that was the rethugs had the “power”.
Now that BO and his minions are feeding at the FISA trough, it is all good.
And I say this knowing that the US has intercepted the of “US persons” for years.
Well we already have communist China telling us to quit spending money we don’t have. Before this is done, websites who defend truth are going to have to be hosted someplace like China. How is that for irony?
I thought the same thing. This cyber-hacking of our grid, etc is nothing new. It has been going on for years. And yes, it’s a threat.
But suddenly it’s big scary news, just as 0bama does his internet power grab? Please. Yes, I believe the story was deliberately pumped and leaked by the administration.
Why not leak that, after all the media/press believes he didn’t BOW to the Saudi King and so yup they think we are all asleep at the switch.
Taking Civil Liberties away is OK as long as it is done by someone that is calling himself a constitutional professor. They took our votes away on May 31st 2008 and no one said a word…because they could.
I heard or read similar comments the other day regarding the stories about our electrical grid being infiltrated–that the story was a deliberate plant, a way to lay the ground work for huge expenditures. It’s not that cyberspies and infiltrations aren’t happening. It’s not that the grid doesn’t need modernization. It’s a matter of ratcheting up the fear so the public trots along with the desired programs and never blink as more and more funding washes out the door.
Control the message and you control the public will.
Propaganda anyone??
The Democrats have been well-schooled by their Republican counterparts. Nothing new under the sun.
Depressing!
At first I was freaked about that story when it broke. Then if you look at it, it seemed that Homeland Security knew about it for a YEAR. Another poster and I kind of got into it about it, and I realized maybe I was wrong. Maybe this is another media BS thing to allow Borerack to take more power from us. Sigh. This is the most bizarre time to be an American. It’s like being Alice in Wonderland these days, where everything’s topsy turvy.
If you go to CERT and read, none of this is new at all. The Internet has not been the same, nor have traditional defenses been the same since the “code red” worm. The Time article sums it up nicely… this administration is all about polls, public relations and propaganda. They are even proud enough to talk openly about it.
Cyberthreats Rising Against Electric Grid
GAO: Homeland Security Isn’t Doing Enough To Protect Critical Power Facilities WASHINGTON, Oct. 17, 2007
@PM317…if you pass this way.
Here is a really good one.
Googled this;
Searches related to: “60 minutes electricity grid 2007″
Google suggested;
“barack obama 60 minutes”
In the context of Easten post, even when it is up and running the comms are up, it still is “wack”.
We will use smoke signals soon.
And you can tell the masses there is absolute support, because no one is dissenting, never mind that they can’t.
Brave New World Folks
Timothy McVeigh is making more & more sense
No, jackie, Tim McVeigh was a scumbag murdering terrorist, and he will NEVER make sense.
Take that shit elsewhere.
agreed WMCB.
I can’t agree with you because he killed innocent people including children. However, I will admit that that thought did occur to me.
No matter how patriotic you think you are, there are some lines that just cannot be crossed without becoming “something else.”
You are scum. You’re just as bad as Bill O’Reilly and Ann Coulter and John Bolton when all of them (AFTER 9/11) made “jokes” that other sites on US soil should be attacked.
Somehow I don’t think you’d be so fucking blasé about such a comment if one of your family or friends had died as a result of McVeigh’s actions.
McVeigh was every bit as horrible as Osama bin Laden.
McVeigh was a domestic terrorist. He killed his own and deserves nothing but our condemnation.
He’s the wrong example to being up in any discussion.
This is a concerted effort to pull up the site as being in support of such MIND THINK!
You all need to pick this up and delete them (comments). This happened during the primaries, where they would deliberately goad people and twist their words trying to get them to say some thing that could be used against them. Remember the lady that had a visit for speaking to a phone banking person for Obama?
These folks supported him over Hillary, they knew she voted against FISA and he voted for it, so the ‘I am so surprised’ while attacking us at the same time is not logical.
McVeigh had a sociopathic mind set and showed no remorse at all, not even for those innocent babies. The man was a monster!
McVeigh/Ayres and company are terrorists.
There is no excusing their behavior.
“Acorn Bot Alert” beep beep
OT, but I am so disgusted I could spit. Obama is REFUSING to even comment on the terrorist hostage situation (because yes, that’s what it is) of the Alabama captain.
FOX reported that reporters pressed him 3 times for a statement, for a comment, for anything, and he declined to even comment, because he “wants to focus on the economy”.
WTF kind of leadership is that? He can’t handle the economy and an AMERICAN HOSTAGE CRISIS at the same time? He can’t speak to and reassure the country that he cares, and is on top of things, even if he’s lying? Of course, he can go on Leno and do NCAA picks while dealing with the economy, no “loss of focus” there. But if you are an American citizen taken hostage by terrorists, you are just an irrelevant distraction to Dear Leader.
What a spineless wimp. What an arrogant asshole.
You’re kidding right? Please tell me you’re kidding. No sitting President, when even one American life is in danger, should say they have to ‘focus’ on something else.
I guess Obama simply doesn’t care. Sigh.
Nope, not kidding. I was so furious, I screamed at my TV.
Even if you have to freaking lie and spout platitudes, you say SOMETHING to the people at a time like that.
His arrogance is breathtaking.
I’m sure it was just that TOTUS hadn’t been programmed with the appropriate response.
He’s waiting for Hillary to do something, so if it works he can claim the glory, and if it goes south he can blame her.
There was a slightly disturbing video going around this morning of Hillary’s response to the situation…and she was giggling at it the same way Fraudstain was laughing on 60 Minutes. I was concerned.
By the way…Here’s a good one…
MSNBC poll of 1.8 million: Obama earns ‘F’
In less than three months in office, president gets failing grade
Posted: April 07, 2009
9:37 pm Eastern
By Chelsea Schilling
With more than 1.8 million responses to a MSNBC poll, President Obama has earned a grade of “F” for his performance in office.
He received a failing mark in an MSNBC unscientific online survey after having spent less than three months in the White House.
In its “Give President Obama a Grade” survey, MSNBC asked nearly 2 million respondents, “If you were grading Barack Obama on his performance as president, what would he get?”
The largest number of respondents – or 43 percent – gave Obama an “F.”
Jeez, if he gets an F on an MSNBC poll, which is bound to be weighed very way possible in his favor, then things are even worse (better?) than I thought!
yep..thats his m.o..remember during the debates him saying i agree with Hillary..
OMG.
What a piece of crap…”no comment?” Way to GO Fraudo on that leadership prowess.
The sad thing is, they have nothing to worry about from us, the citizens. All we are guilty of is discussing their illegal actions as elected officials.
Is there no way that we can get off the grid that they are using and feel the need to protect? Are the general service providers that we subscribe to not capable of providing a private grid, separate from the one the government and corporations use?
Hey Im waiting for some official to come knocking at my door and grab my puter for all the dishing I do of Obama….
They are working on our rights bit by by–first guns and then speech…
KintheNorthwest…I wait for it every day too. I actually welcome the Homeland Security/FBI freaks to pay me a visit. They’ll find out what being on the wrong end of a $500/hour lawyer means. I can’t believe what they have done to people. Going into their homes and searching them…Steve Pidgeon has been followed and harassed by those idiots, etc. Shameful. We still have our first amendment rights and I will talk about the Stoner in Chief until they pry my computer out of my cold, dead hands.
I was thinking about this. If one wanted to get guns… and you had to fight the second amendment to do it. I think the first target wouldn’t be the guns themselves, but the ammunition for them. I think that is what we will see first… an attack on extravagant military capable guns and ammunition of all kinds… probably in the from of an exorbitant tax on ammunition touting health care costs from gun violence etc… followed by organized civil suits against ammunition makers and sellers i.e. WalMart to make it not even worth selling this in the stores.
Might I ask why the hell a PRIVATE citizen needs a “military capable gun”? There is absolutely NO reason why you or I need such a weapon. Hunters certainly have no need of them (and I can’t think of a responsible sporting organization which would ever endorse the 2nd Amendment’s covering such a firearm).
If you want a “military capable gun”, join the military (or law enforcment). Otherwise, you don’t need them, and they do NOT deserve any 2nd Amendment protection.
Thanks for making my point. These guns will be first, followed by an exorbitant ammo tax and probably orchestrated floods of lawsuits against ammo retailers. I don’t care for military guns myself, but the point I would make is those who would manipulate the legal system to bring a political end are another form of terrorists.
The 2nd amendment was not designed to protect hunters. It was designed to have an armed populace as a fail-safe to the government becoming tyrannical.
The entire POINT of the 2nd amendment was that they wanted the govt to quite literally be scared to push the people too far in oppression. Please remember that the people who wrote that amendment were armed revolutionaries who had just overthrown their own govt, and had stated in their Declaration that the people had the right to do the same in the future, should it become necessary.
So saying that any particular gun is not necessary for sporting or hunting purposes, and is therefore not covered by the 2nd amendment, is a lame argument – since hunting and sporting had nothing to do with the 2nd amendment.
Yes, but do note how this poster has already fallen right in line. Personally, I don’t want any military style guns in my house either, but that isn’t the point is it? The point is we have the second amendment, and the first and they don’t convey us any rights… rather they recognize that we are born already having rights. What we are losing isn’t just the individual rights themselves… more importantly, it’s the understanding that we are born with rights to begin with.
Why don’t you move to Cuba, Jose? Apparently you have a problem with America and the Constitution. Bon Voyage!
Docelder, excellent analogy. By the same token, an assault on 1st Amendment rights will not be direct; they will go after the “ammunition,” in this case the platforms (the World Wide Web, for example), upon which 1st Amendment rights are exercised. Right?
Yes, a very astute interpolation and dead on right. The “www” is the ammunition for without the channels there will be no conflicting speech to staged propaganda. Good grief, just look to the teleprompter… we are already seeing staged speech.
Wasn’t 0bama supposed to be the consumate multi-tasker?
Why yes he was. That’s why he could ridicule McCain
when McCain suspended his campaign to deal with the financial crisis. See, Barry had a phone and so because of that he could deal with everything at once. Yes, Barry is the biggest scumbag I have ever seen. I used to swear a blue line when I even saw Bush on my tv. With Obama, the revulsion is so deep it is amazing. I just don’t seem to like psycho liars in the white house. Go figure.
He is. He travels, he campaigns, he’s got his boyz working on the economy, he has open house at the White House on Wednesdays, they’re trying to pick out a new dog. Sheeesh! What do you want:)
How very interesting. I made a post here, then went back to post again. On the second try, I was blocked with a message that I have never seen before. Then the No Quarter web page went away. I went back in and posted successfully. Is anyone else having similar difficulties? Just curious.
not me..yet..???????????????
The Twizzler couldn’t comment because he didn’t have his 12 teleprompters with him. The only thing he’s able to talk about without the ‘prompter is HIMSELF–he is afterall, his favorite subject.
Any time the government imposes new violations of Constitutional rights, under the guise of imminent threat is reason for suspicion and scepticism.
The numerous unnamed sources in the WSJ story are a red flag to me, and to others more knowledgeable about cyber-threats [below]. But whether or not the story was “planted”; it seems to me that the WH is likely pleased to exploit it to further legislation which directly affects freedom of information in this country, and that is always cause for alarm. Giving up freedom for security is never a good trade, in my view.
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9131297&source=NLT_PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/8798997/the_man_who_sold_the_war/
War, Propaganda, and the Media
http://www.globalissues.org/article/157/war-propaganda-and-the-media
mountainaires, thanks for perspective.
Obama is quickly taking control of not just our means of living but our means of communicating. He wants complete control, I believe total domination is his goal.
If we are not careful he will get his way, he will control us. Hell, with the economy he is controlling our incomes, our unemployment isn’t enough to live on, 138.00 per week.
WTF is happening to our country? When the men and women we hired to look out for our best interests have become complacent, it’s scaring the hell out of me.
What can we do, why would they want to make the tax day seem like a “fringe group”, just like they called us PUMA’S. They want everyone to think that those who disagree with the president and his taking control of our Constitution and our rights, are merely a FEW disgruntled Americans who just want to be on T.V.!
It pisses me off, there are millions of us out here who want our rights as Americans protected! DAMN-IT! WHAT THE F**K IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY!!!!!! GOD HELP US!
anyone get the impression that 0bama wanted this job so he could travel around the world on our dime? seems that all he has done since becoming cic.then again he considers himself a “citizen of the world” and not a citizen of america.
Daddy’sDarlin, exactly ” WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY”? It’s frightening me to death. I jusr finish reading – canadafreepress.com. writen by Rev.michael Bresciani; THE UNITED STATES CHRISTIANITY AND HISTORY INSULTED and one other article by Douglas V.Gibbs: Newsweek Headline, THE END OD CHRISTIAN AMERICA, echoes 0bama’s, We are not a christian nation. Making contingencies with the Cybersecurity Bill, it looks like 0bama want’s a total control over YOU AMERICA. GOD HELP US.
Sorry for my mistakes, but I was so disturbed by the articles I read that I just send my thoughts and fear. It was to late to make any corrections. Sorry
I can’t remember if it was Tom Paine or Thomas Jefferson that stated that when government was afraid of the people there was freedom, but when the people were afraid of the government there was tyranny. There is not a dime’s worth of difference between the Democratic party and the Republican party. We have a poltitical aristocracy that is telling us to eat cake. People are losing jobs and homes and our government wants to spy on us.