Cable TV News: Who Succeeds, Who Dumbs It Down

I gave up listening to Ed Schultz 18 months ago. He was evil to Hillary, and definitely drank the koolaid. It must be a prerequisite to getting a job on MSNBC. How low do you think the ratings have to go before they realize they are headed in the wrong direction? I sure as hell won’t be watching.

Ed Schultz should not be allowed to even comment on Wrestle Mania.

I haven’t watched msnbc’s drivel since Chris Matthew’s leg tingle.

RIP Journalism.

To start, I don’t think you become a “former” Rhodes Scholar. You either are or you aren’t. She is. She is manifestly, very bright. Her show is growing in popularity and is sometimes fun. There are times when her cute little smile, more a sneer, annoys me. The person who, on another blog over here, referred to her as” Madcow,” is a dunce and should be sent to a liberal blog where he will be destroyed by five little horses (so they don’t pull too quickly) being tied to *all* of his appendeges with a bucket of grain j.u.s.t. a foot away from their hungry little mouths. Beyond examining her providing of news, my take of her is that I HATE it that she likes girls for intimate friends. She is quite cute. Anyone disdaining her is afraid of really bright women. So, there!
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Watching television news shows nowadays is like watching fiction about television news. They’re usually fake and almost scripted, so they seem like just made-up shows, like any drama or sit-com. (Remember Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman? That was a good show, especially when it then spun off Fernwood Tonight, with Martin Mull. That was hilarious!)

Watching national news now is just nothing like watching Huntley/Brinkly with my Dad back in the day. I can’t believe I am really watching news nowadays–it’s all so scewed, so I don’t watch–unless it’s a local station giving local news.

I always watch Bret Baier’s show. It really is “fair
and balanced”. Bret always seems amused at the news,
but comes up with some important points when the panel for the last 20 minutes discusses issues. I like that both liberal and conservatives have intelligent opinions without using name calling like
MSNBC. I’ve channeled surf onto MSNBC once in a while and can’t believe the Palin bashing, Bush mocking and calling real conservative and decent Americans “psychos”. That’s pathetic and who listens to it? Obviously, not too many.

As a gay man….I will tell you that Rachael Maddow is one angry lesbian! I can’t stomach to listen to her……..Keith Olbermann is still overcoming a head injury so he can’t help himself for being a moron! LOL MSNBC is NoBama News Network along with CNN… Haven’t watched either since the primary season started and it was praise Allah NoBama and down with Hillary the Witch… The media has no business doing anything but reporting things as they actually happen…

I gave up watching MSNBC and CNN in 2008 (before Lent I might add) during the dem. primaries. I became disgusted at their obvious bias against and personal remarks about Hillary Clinton, her family, and her supporters. I turned to Fox Cable News - a station I had hardly watched before. Although I don’t agree with their slant on some of the programs I watch, it’s better than the other two options. I have caught Brett Baier’s program and you are right, it’s full of news and excellent commentaries. Life has a way of surprising one. Who would have guessed two short years ago my husband and I would have even turned on Fox Cable News for anything?

I’m old enough to remember Huntley and Brinkley. It’s tragic what has happened to NBC news. Alas time passes and things change - not always for the better in the case of NBC news!

the left does not like you to challenge their heroes nor does the right (wrong). Over at Crooks and Liars I got in trouble for challenging Rachel Maddow had not had Charles Freeman on after the blogosphere was immersed. Olberman would not touch the Charles Freeman withdrawal. Hmmm

At the same site I got verbally whacked (think it is so telling) when I was challenging Jon Stewart for not taking Chris Matthews up on his invite on Hardball after Stewart ripped up Matthews yet goes kind of soft when it came to interviewing both Bill
Kristol and David Frum. Sorry but I know who I would be harder on.

The left does not like being challenged but either do those on the right.
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Hey this is bit ot but really worth it
Tonight on Hardball Frank Gaffney, David Corn and Chirs Matthews really went at on whether Spain has the right to go after our “alleged” war criminals
go to the spain clip
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#30215925

They really went at it
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Leen | Tuesday April 14, 2009 05:46 pm 20
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David Corn to Gaffney “Frank we’re you against the Nuremberg Trials”

You go David

Matthews blew a fuse ya hoo

Chris Matthews ” my view, well my view is o.k. let me tell you my view of this Frank buddy I’ll tell you my view of this. We crossed that line in that West Point speech by President Bush George W. Bush up there in 2002 when he said we are going to go into other countries and kick ass because they do not have democracies in those countries that’s when he said we’re going to go kill
people internationally because we do not like their form of government that’s when we crossed the line Frank”

I’m sure liberals tell themselves that she’s still better than Hannity, O’Reilly, et al. but that’s a pretty low bar.

Really? I thought No Quarter liked Hannity and O’Reilly. Especially Hannity. NQ posts approvingly posts clips from his show all the time.

I’m sure liberals tell themselves that she’s still better than Hannity, O’Reilly, et al. but that’s a pretty low bar.

Really? I thought No Quarter liked Hannity and O’Reilly. Especially Hannity. NQ approvingly posts clips from his show here all the time.

Here is a great piece about our News and the U.K.’s
Need a chuckle about the news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_amyJCLmMY8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.harpers.org%2Fsubjects%2FNoComment&feature=player_embedded

Chet Huntley was in a different galaxy from the bottom feeders at MSNBC.
The thing is quality still matters .My husband & I rarely watch the “news” anymore because it generally appears coordinated through Obama’s pr wing.

Having said that we do see Greta and Hume’s replacement because their demeanor is the most civilized.

Ed Schultz is a fat pig. I can’t believe that this hack with zero political talent can be offered a job as an news host. I prefer Schuster over this joke, at least Schuster has a good understanding of politics, although he is biased.

MSNBC: Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz

What a fkn joke! 4 Obama cheerleaders. Maddow is the best of the group! LOL

MSNBC waste of air time..I used to watch all of them
all the time..as of 1 year ago..i don’t even know their number on my direct tv menu…
CBS; never watched still don’t..I used to charity-tune into Katie Couric..but since she was so needlessly mean to Sarah Palin.Katie also Kaput
ABC and boorish Charlie Gibson are totally Kaput
NBC..is just completely Kaput
CNN..Wolf, Cooper, Campbell are all Kaput
although I love to watch Lou Dobbs
FOX, that I have never watched in my life, is now my mainstay for the last year!

I stopped watching Olbermann even before the primaries, as his hatred of all things Bush was just so over the top, and his attacks on O’Reilly so infantile, that I figured I was being fed a lot of far left wing BS and wanted just the facts, not the facts altered through such a biased filter.
As far as Maddow goes, her snark and sarcasm are reminiscent of high school, and, as with Olbermann, the audience she’s pandering to thinks she’s a “newscaster”. What a waste of the fine mind I used to see years ago when I first saw her on Countdown.

this is really about the news watch it
Charlie Brooker on British and American TV News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_amyJCLmMY8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.harpers.org%2Fsubjects%2FNoComment&feature=player_embedded

I must agree with your assessment of Rachel Maddow. And I thought she was the bee’s knees before she got her own show. Her cutesy antics are baffling. And her latest triumph — mocking the “Tea Party” protests with the sexual slang “teabagging,” which has caught on throughout the MSNBC family — makes me feel embarrassed.

When she’s serious, though, she’s worth taking seriously.

As for Ed Schultz, I used to listen to him on radio (2 years ago). He’s a complete embarrassment. I can’t imagine anyone other than the MSNBC crowd taking a thing he says seriously.

Excellent post, Susan. Thank you!
Bret Baier acts like a grown-up. And he gives us grown-up news. And treats US like grown-ups! It’s a privilege to watch his show.

I was one of the founding members of Ed Schultz’s audience when he went on air in March of 2004.
I knew he was a former conservative and he was someone who could be able to reach out to the conservative voting blocs. Still, he championed the causes of the liberals/progressives, especially on the economic front. I was unaware of his contempt for Hillary (and Bill) until September 2007 when Hillary rolled out her healthcare plan. There was a sudden shift in Ed. He used to defend Democrats across the board. He was hacking away at her healthcare plan and everything else she had to offer.
Once the primaries started, he was on a full scale attack against her and her supporters (which constitute a sizable portion of his audience).
His ratings once hit 5 million and they are now down to just 3 million. That 2 million loss was mostly Hillary supporters. You know, the “bitter gun clinging” ones who Ed claims to speak for.
I still listen to Thom Hartmann though.
I still do not like right wing talk radio as they are still blinded by hatred of anything to the let of the hard right.

I was a founding member of Ed Schultz’s audience.
Once he turned on Hillary, I turned him off.

I was a founding member of Ed Schultz’s audience.
Once he turned on Hillary, I turned him off.

Ed was supporting all causes dear to the liberals/progressives.
He did a remarkable coverup on hiding his hatred of
Hillary (and Bill). Once Hillary brought out her
healthcare plan in september 2007, Ed let lose and
begain throwing the hatchets into her back (like the coward he is).
Remember that Ed/Kos/Huffington were former Republicans
during the 1990’s. Their bias against anything Clinton
never went away, or should I say, they did not repent
like David Brock did.

Also, Schultz’s audience peaked at 5 million.
It now stands at 3 million. That loss of 2 million
listeners was comprised of Hillary supporters, you know
the bitter, gun clinging types that Mr. Schultz claims to support.

I do not watch much cable “news”. MSNBC is never
on my TV. CNN is on occasionally.
I watch PBS and use the web to get news.

Ed was supporting all causes dear to the liberals/progressives.
He did a remarkable coverup on hiding his hatred of
Hillary (and Bill). Once Hillary brought out her
healthcare plan in september 2007, Ed let lose and
begain throwing the hatchets into her back (like the coward he is).
Remember that Ed/Kos/Huffington were former Republicans
during the 1990’s. Their bias against anything Clinton
never went away, or should I say, they did not repent
like David Brock did.

Also, Schultz’s audience peaked at 5 million.
It now stands at 3 million. That loss of 2 million
listeners was comprised of Hillary supporters, you know
the bitter, gun clinging types that Mr. Schultz claims to support.

I do not watch much cable “news”. MSNBC is never
on my TV. CNN is on occasionally.
I watch PBS and use the web to get news.

My husband and I turned off all the jerks and only watch FOX and sometimes Lou Dobbs. Never in our wildest dreams would we have thought we’d watch Bill O. every day. We used to laugh about it. Now we think he’s one of the fairest of them all! Love, love, love Bret B. Can you guess we were Hillary supporters? Used to be liberals until we looked at the ones around us and didn’t like what we saw. It was a sad day when we realized liberals are only liberal toward you if you agree with them. Changed our affiliation to Independent after being a Dem all our voting life. Free At Last…..!!!!!!!!!!!

Same here regarding Ed Schultz as well as all of Air America.

Tonight I even heard Anderson Cooper talking about tea-bagging and giggling like a girl. The talking points memo must have gone out to the Obama stations today.

Hey they all suck—- America we are being played as the fool—- They get richer and we get more desperate every day— What is so special about O’Reilly? (Mr. Current Affair) Hannity is a phony Patriot Remember What Fox did to the Clinton Administration ? CNN FOX MSNBC they all suck with the bottom line being power and money We empower the assholes by falling for their manipulation.

Why did my post disappear? Is this a public forum or the Huffington Post?

The Axlerod talking points of late include labeling anyone they disagree with as “right wingnuts”, “rightwing loonies”, etc. Also, I guarantee you that the number of 12 million illegal immigrants has been sent out as the number to hammer home again and again, while the number is in all reality probably much, much larger than that. It’s just not a coincidence that all Dem talking heads on TV are using that 12 million number over and over again.

I think a lot of today’s cable prime time news show hosts could use a leeson from Professor Huntley right about now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ViBf2Riqqo

Great post Susan.

I have often wonder how Rachel Maddow, the woman who would interrupt Al Gore’s rally to ask about drug aid to Africa, could be covering for or making light of this new adminstration on what she used to consider so outrageous, or to be mocking what she used to hold so dearly.

How is Rachel Maddow dealing with herself. Does she say “it’s tv, it’s just entertainment” ?

Schultz and the others already showed they are whores for whatever is the in thing at the time. Schultz was a repub and still is in many ways and keith was a Jock.

Of course you love Fox and hate Maddow. Rachel pokes fun at Fox, she is all about the snark. But you really have forgotten about you supposed heroes. Rachel follows the tradition of David Brinkley who was as snarky as they came in the old school journalism. Brinkley routinely skewered politicians and pointed out the absurdities of the American political system.

But Maddow is not always about the snark, she demolished Colin Powell in her interview Larry’s favorite “butt snorkeler” She repeatedly followed up Powell’s evasions on the Bush torture policy. Powell was visibly shaken by Maddow’s terrier like tenacity on the subject.

You have a right to dislike Maddow’s politics but you have no right to dismiss her work ethic. She does her homework and it shows. She ripped into the Obama administration’s brief supporting Black site prisons and depredations of Fourth Amendments. She is willing to call “bullpucky” when she see it no matter what the source.

Stylistically I can see why Maddow may not be some person’s tea. I can also see why K.O. also may set some people on edge. But please, Fox news? Fox is the propaganda arm of the Republican party. They get stuff hilariously wrong like the “fact” that they covered the “Million Man March” Fox News did not cover that event, they were not even on the air when the event happened.

If you want real news podcast the BBC or cough up the bucks to get the Beeb on cable. I won’t even bother mentioning NPR because far too many people have bought into the myth that NPR is somehow “left wing” It is kinda of sad when a plain vanilla organization like NPR gets accused of radical agenda that it never had and never will have in a million years. But that is what happens when you listen to a right-wing echo chamber like Fox.

In my experience, Maddow is a typical bull lesbian. Pardon the bluntness, but I’ve known them all my life. They’re loud, they interrupt you before you finish a sentence, and if you listen to them long enough, they’ll spend all their time trying to convince you they’re the smartest person on the planet. If you happen to disagree with them, you’re an enemy for life.

Maddow parroted the obama party line through and through and for that I can never respect her. She along with everyone else on that network nightly portrayed Hillary as “Worse than Hitler!” That showed a naivete and a lack of integrity, not to mention a level of immaturity typical of every other talking head on my TV. As a result, I’ve given up on cable news and have blocked all those channels on my Dish. I get everything I need to know online, starting right here at NQ.

There is something both embaressing and disconcerting about a suppossedly smart, self-assurred lesbian using the urban slang word for “scrotum” over and over and over again while giggling like a sophmore. Of all the lesbians I know- family, friends, co-workers- scrotums are usually not a topic of discussion or jokes. They are just not into them, humor or otherwise. LOL

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