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	<title>Comments on: Ken Lewis: Great American or Mere Corporate Pawn?</title>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194530</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is mentioning Ken Lewis&#039;s 60-Minutes interview with Leslie Stalh in Dec 2008 in which Lewis talked about how BofA didn&#039;t need the bailout money they received because some years back they had made the decision NOT to participate in the sub-prime mortgage market.  That was the reason he was giving for the good health of BofA.  And, I thought he said they used that money to buy Merrill Lynch the weekend BEFORE ML went into bankruptcy.  

This meant BofA paid full market price for the company instead of letting it go into bankruptcy and getting it for far less money.  His reasoning for that was they preferred to buy it straight out and not have to deal with the government calling the shots in bankruptcy court.  Little did he know. 

As a former BofA marketing employee in the 80&#039;s, I was very pleased to be privy to that interesting piece of information.  

Not six weeks later, BofA was reeling from their stock going to next to nothing, going to the government for MORE bailout money, and Lewis&#039; job was on the line.  The explanation was Merrill Lynch was in much worse shape than originally thought.  ML probably participated in the sub-prime mess plus giving their execs those much begrudged bonuses.   

It sounds a lot like what happened to Wachovia which found itself in the first wave of failed banks due to a similar company they bought at the height of the market in 2006.  That company had nothing BUT sub-prime mortgages that caused the Wachovia failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is mentioning Ken Lewis&#8217;s 60-Minutes interview with Leslie Stalh in Dec 2008 in which Lewis talked about how BofA didn&#8217;t need the bailout money they received because some years back they had made the decision NOT to participate in the sub-prime mortgage market.  That was the reason he was giving for the good health of BofA.  And, I thought he said they used that money to buy Merrill Lynch the weekend BEFORE ML went into bankruptcy.  </p>
<p>This meant BofA paid full market price for the company instead of letting it go into bankruptcy and getting it for far less money.  His reasoning for that was they preferred to buy it straight out and not have to deal with the government calling the shots in bankruptcy court.  Little did he know. </p>
<p>As a former BofA marketing employee in the 80&#8217;s, I was very pleased to be privy to that interesting piece of information.  </p>
<p>Not six weeks later, BofA was reeling from their stock going to next to nothing, going to the government for MORE bailout money, and Lewis&#8217; job was on the line.  The explanation was Merrill Lynch was in much worse shape than originally thought.  ML probably participated in the sub-prime mess plus giving their execs those much begrudged bonuses.   </p>
<p>It sounds a lot like what happened to Wachovia which found itself in the first wave of failed banks due to a similar company they bought at the height of the market in 2006.  That company had nothing BUT sub-prime mortgages that caused the Wachovia failure.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194515</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuomo did seem to be very interested in  Hillary&#039;s Senate seat.  Perhaps the fact Patterson did not give it to him and remove him as his own opponent for the governor&#039;s race was because Cuomo needed more time to make this name for himself he&#039;s trying to make.  Then he can run against the less well-known upstate NY legislator that Patterson named to the seat.  

But, I&#039;m thinking Cuomo might prefer to follow in his Dad&#039;s footsteps to the Governor&#039;s mansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuomo did seem to be very interested in  Hillary&#8217;s Senate seat.  Perhaps the fact Patterson did not give it to him and remove him as his own opponent for the governor&#8217;s race was because Cuomo needed more time to make this name for himself he&#8217;s trying to make.  Then he can run against the less well-known upstate NY legislator that Patterson named to the seat.  </p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m thinking Cuomo might prefer to follow in his Dad&#8217;s footsteps to the Governor&#8217;s mansion.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194505</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuomo is no doubt positioning himself to run for governor just like Eliott Spitzer did.  Spitzer, like Cuomo, was the NY Attorney General when he made a name for himself going after all the &#039;prostitution rings&#039; and prominent NYers who were participants.  Karma can be a reeeeeal bitch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuomo is no doubt positioning himself to run for governor just like Eliott Spitzer did.  Spitzer, like Cuomo, was the NY Attorney General when he made a name for himself going after all the &#8216;prostitution rings&#8217; and prominent NYers who were participants.  Karma can be a reeeeeal bitch!</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an epidemic of anger right now. I&#039;m wondering if this will give Lewis &quot;leverage&quot; as LD suggested? Mr Cuomo is really making a name for himself. Is he planning to run for the Senate or run against Patterson for governor? Patterson&#039;s approval rating is pretty low right now. Wall Street&#039;s behavior has been despicable debauchery, but the government is messing where &quot;it don&#039;t belong&quot;. The idea of the Secretary of Treasury using extortion to force a CEO to make vital decisions without informing the shareholders is more cause for concern than the relative straight forward fraud and mismanagement. I was sorry to hear of the suicide of the CFO of Freddy. Maybe he did something wrong and maybe he didn&#039;t, but the lynch mob mentality directed at executives on Wall Street effectively takes the focus off Paulson, Bernake, Giethner and the rest of our esteemed government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an epidemic of anger right now. I&#8217;m wondering if this will give Lewis &#8220;leverage&#8221; as LD suggested? Mr Cuomo is really making a name for himself. Is he planning to run for the Senate or run against Patterson for governor? Patterson&#8217;s approval rating is pretty low right now. Wall Street&#8217;s behavior has been despicable debauchery, but the government is messing where &#8220;it don&#8217;t belong&#8221;. The idea of the Secretary of Treasury using extortion to force a CEO to make vital decisions without informing the shareholders is more cause for concern than the relative straight forward fraud and mismanagement. I was sorry to hear of the suicide of the CFO of Freddy. Maybe he did something wrong and maybe he didn&#8217;t, but the lynch mob mentality directed at executives on Wall Street effectively takes the focus off Paulson, Bernake, Giethner and the rest of our esteemed government.</p>
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		<title>By: foxyladi14</title>
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		<dc:creator>foxyladi14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they should be.</p>
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		<title>By: arran Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194155</link>
		<dc:creator>arran Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a recap of bailout money received by BofA and date of receipt, here is the record that I&#039;ve found:

--$25B, in fall 2008

--$20B, 1-16-2009

--$5.2B channeled through AIG,(and what&#039;s with that route?), 3-15-09

for a total of $50.2B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a recap of bailout money received by BofA and date of receipt, here is the record that I&#8217;ve found:</p>
<p>&#8211;$25B, in fall 2008</p>
<p>&#8211;$20B, 1-16-2009</p>
<p>&#8211;$5.2B channeled through AIG,(and what&#8217;s with that route?), 3-15-09</p>
<p>for a total of $50.2B.</p>
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		<title>By: oowawa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194150</link>
		<dc:creator>oowawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another take on this from an angry market analyst:

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/982-Paulson-and-Bernanke-Indictment-Time.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another take on this from an angry market analyst:</p>
<p><a href="http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/982-Paulson-and-Bernanke-Indictment-Time.html" rel="nofollow">http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/982-Paulson-and-Bernanke-Indictment-Time.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: arran Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194143</link>
		<dc:creator>arran Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portia--I don&#039;t think in actuality Bernanke or Paulson will, or can, be held liable. 

Ken Lewis has to stand before his shareholders, of which I am one.  Many are calling for his resignation, of which I am not doing with the information I have at present.  

In December, Lewis did consult with his legal counsel to determine whether BofA could be released from the Merrill merger via a MAC, material adverse clause, when information about Merrill&#039;s massive 4th quarter losses ($21.5B) were recorded.  The US government forced him to allow the merger to be completed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portia&#8211;I don&#8217;t think in actuality Bernanke or Paulson will, or can, be held liable. </p>
<p>Ken Lewis has to stand before his shareholders, of which I am one.  Many are calling for his resignation, of which I am not doing with the information I have at present.  </p>
<p>In December, Lewis did consult with his legal counsel to determine whether BofA could be released from the Merrill merger via a MAC, material adverse clause, when information about Merrill&#8217;s massive 4th quarter losses ($21.5B) were recorded.  The US government forced him to allow the merger to be completed.</p>
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		<title>By: Portia Elizabeth Crockett</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194093</link>
		<dc:creator>Portia Elizabeth Crockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If what Lewis is saying now is true, can&#039;t Bernanke and Paulson be prosecuted for criminal fraud?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what Lewis is saying now is true, can&#8217;t Bernanke and Paulson be prosecuted for criminal fraud?</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Revere</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194041</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula Revere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that there is big news about Freddie and Fannie, and that&#039;s why the CFO of Freddie &quot;killed himself.&quot; (Yeah, right).  Dodd is way deep in Freddie and Fannie, and so is the Fraud.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s another pay to play, keep your mouth shut deal.  But I don&#039;t see Dodd getting re-elected.  What a creep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that there is big news about Freddie and Fannie, and that&#8217;s why the CFO of Freddie &#8220;killed himself.&#8221; (Yeah, right).  Dodd is way deep in Freddie and Fannie, and so is the Fraud.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s another pay to play, keep your mouth shut deal.  But I don&#8217;t see Dodd getting re-elected.  What a creep.</p>
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		<title>By: lee M</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid that Ken Lewis is just another self-serving individual who puts his own survival above that of the country.

I&#039;ve long stated that from the outset Henry Paulson was too anxious to get an ok on the TARP deal, and his and Bernanke&#039;s actions of &quot;the sky is falling&quot; plea to congress was suspect.  I wouldn&#039;t trust either of these men to take out my garbage, much less to put them in charge of so much money and the future of my children and grandchildren.

Ken Lewis&#039; wail of &quot;he made me do it&quot; gets no sympathy from me. He has proven he has no backbone, and he and the whole board of directors of BofA should be terminated immediately. The fear of losing their jobs meant more to them than the integrity of their decision.

Henry Paulson and Ben Bernanke both belong in jail.  Together they have put the United States of America in the worst place than she has been in for ages.  This does not absolve George Bush for being so stupid for buying their act. (Or was he in on it?)

I don&#039;t foresee congress taking any action against anyone who is culpable of wrong doing in this matter, because they are all tied up in dirty deals themselves. The fact that fraud was perpetrated against the shareholders doesn&#039;t seem to count for very much.

Could there be any connection here for the reason Obama is so loudly proclaiming that he will give Chris Dodd all the help he needs in his re-election bid?  The fact that he stated that Dodd is going through a &quot;bad patch&quot; doesn&#039;t strike me as reason enough. Obama never goes out on a limb for anyone unless there is something in it for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid that Ken Lewis is just another self-serving individual who puts his own survival above that of the country.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long stated that from the outset Henry Paulson was too anxious to get an ok on the TARP deal, and his and Bernanke&#8217;s actions of &#8220;the sky is falling&#8221; plea to congress was suspect.  I wouldn&#8217;t trust either of these men to take out my garbage, much less to put them in charge of so much money and the future of my children and grandchildren.</p>
<p>Ken Lewis&#8217; wail of &#8220;he made me do it&#8221; gets no sympathy from me. He has proven he has no backbone, and he and the whole board of directors of BofA should be terminated immediately. The fear of losing their jobs meant more to them than the integrity of their decision.</p>
<p>Henry Paulson and Ben Bernanke both belong in jail.  Together they have put the United States of America in the worst place than she has been in for ages.  This does not absolve George Bush for being so stupid for buying their act. (Or was he in on it?)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t foresee congress taking any action against anyone who is culpable of wrong doing in this matter, because they are all tied up in dirty deals themselves. The fact that fraud was perpetrated against the shareholders doesn&#8217;t seem to count for very much.</p>
<p>Could there be any connection here for the reason Obama is so loudly proclaiming that he will give Chris Dodd all the help he needs in his re-election bid?  The fact that he stated that Dodd is going through a &#8220;bad patch&#8221; doesn&#8217;t strike me as reason enough. Obama never goes out on a limb for anyone unless there is something in it for him.</p>
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		<title>By: oowawa</title>
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		<dc:creator>oowawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In forming judgments on this matter, we should read all pertinent accounts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your point is well taken, arran.  I, for one, am often prone to leap to conclusions, and I know I shouldn&#039;t.  When you&#039;re always angry, it&#039;s hard to do the necessary research before venting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In forming judgments on this matter, we should read all pertinent accounts.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your point is well taken, arran.  I, for one, am often prone to leap to conclusions, and I know I shouldn&#8217;t.  When you&#8217;re always angry, it&#8217;s hard to do the necessary research before venting.</p>
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		<title>By: arran Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1194001</link>
		<dc:creator>arran Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify my comments above:

After his investigation, Andrew Cuomo wrote a letter dated today to Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Mary Schapiro (SEC), and Elizabeth Warren (Congressional Oversight Panel).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify my comments above:</p>
<p>After his investigation, Andrew Cuomo wrote a letter dated today to Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Mary Schapiro (SEC), and Elizabeth Warren (Congressional Oversight Panel).</p>
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		<title>By: arran Madison</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/23/ken-lewis-great-american-or-mere-corporate-pawn/#comment-1193992</link>
		<dc:creator>arran Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Doyle--I&#039;m not a subscriber to the WSJ so I wasn&#039;t able to read all the link you provided.  

In the Charlotte Observer (online) today is the post, &quot;Federal officials threatened BofA CEO&#039;s job security&quot;, and under that headline is a link to Andrew Cuomo&#039;s letter.  In forming judgments on this matter, we should read all pertinent accounts.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/

&quot;Federal officials threatened BofA CEO&#039;s job security&quot;

&quot;Read documents on BofA-Merrill merger (pdf)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Doyle&#8211;I&#8217;m not a subscriber to the WSJ so I wasn&#8217;t able to read all the link you provided.  </p>
<p>In the Charlotte Observer (online) today is the post, &#8220;Federal officials threatened BofA CEO&#8217;s job security&#8221;, and under that headline is a link to Andrew Cuomo&#8217;s letter.  In forming judgments on this matter, we should read all pertinent accounts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.charlotteobserver.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.charlotteobserver.com/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Federal officials threatened BofA CEO&#8217;s job security&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Read documents on BofA-Merrill merger (pdf)</p>
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		<title>By: oowawa</title>
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		<dc:creator>oowawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In one of the funniest moments in &lt;em&gt;Blazing Saddles&lt;/em&gt;, the bearish Mongo (played by Alex Karras) gazes vacantly off into space and experiences an epiphany: &quot;Mongo just pawn in game of life . . . &quot;

In that context I read this question:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is Ken Lewis a “great American” serving the interests of his country, or a mere pawn . . .
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Presumably this shrewd character is a bit more slick than poor oxlike Mongo . . . A pawn?  LMAO!  On the other hand, my cynical nature will not let me believe that national interest was his motivation . . .  So the &quot;either-or&quot; question doesn&#039;t work for me.  Now if there were another &quot;or&quot; option--&quot;or acting out of self interest in a way that is not immediately clear,&quot; now I would want to check that choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one of the funniest moments in <em>Blazing Saddles</em>, the bearish Mongo (played by Alex Karras) gazes vacantly off into space and experiences an epiphany: &#8220;Mongo just pawn in game of life . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>In that context I read this question:</p>
<blockquote><p>Is Ken Lewis a “great American” serving the interests of his country, or a mere pawn . . .
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<p>Presumably this shrewd character is a bit more slick than poor oxlike Mongo . . . A pawn?  LMAO!  On the other hand, my cynical nature will not let me believe that national interest was his motivation . . .  So the &#8220;either-or&#8221; question doesn&#8217;t work for me.  Now if there were another &#8220;or&#8221; option&#8211;&#8221;or acting out of self interest in a way that is not immediately clear,&#8221; now I would want to check that choice.</p>
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