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		<title>By: Ken in IL</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1203823</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken in IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 01:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Mathews &amp; KO need their own burkas!</description>
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		<title>By: Our Daughters For Sale : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Daughters For Sale : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Editor&#8217;s Note: Check out more stories by No Quarter writers on Nicolas Kristof&#8217;s excellent columns about oppressed and abused women. See especially Reverend Amy&#8217;s shocking story about rape kits that languish on shelves for years while the rapists remain unidentified and free: Kits Languish On Shelves For Years, Or “Hey, It’s Only Rape After All”. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Editor&#8217;s Note: Check out more stories by No Quarter writers on Nicolas Kristof&#8217;s excellent columns about oppressed and abused women. See especially Reverend Amy&#8217;s shocking story about rape kits that languish on shelves for years while the rapists remain unidentified and free: Kits Languish On Shelves For Years, Or “Hey, It’s Only Rape After All”. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1199759</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very curious that most of these comments are by women and not men.  Is that because no matter how &quot;enlightened&quot; men are or claim to &quot;look at the qualifications, not the gender&quot; they still believe at their core that women are beneath them? No matter what they admit to themselves or to the women in their lives, men look down on us. From BO to men in our own families, men are taught to believe this fallacy. Examples abound in our lives: coaches tell guys they play like girls, drill instructors break down men by comparing them to women and in prison, men&#039;s statuses as men are lowered by raping them, thus lowering their status to that of women. Unfortunately, there are cases where no rape actually occurred, but that is no excuse to put aside every case. Each woman, especially those who have gone through the further trauma of a rape kit, need to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very curious that most of these comments are by women and not men.  Is that because no matter how &#8220;enlightened&#8221; men are or claim to &#8220;look at the qualifications, not the gender&#8221; they still believe at their core that women are beneath them? No matter what they admit to themselves or to the women in their lives, men look down on us. From BO to men in our own families, men are taught to believe this fallacy. Examples abound in our lives: coaches tell guys they play like girls, drill instructors break down men by comparing them to women and in prison, men&#8217;s statuses as men are lowered by raping them, thus lowering their status to that of women. Unfortunately, there are cases where no rape actually occurred, but that is no excuse to put aside every case. Each woman, especially those who have gone through the further trauma of a rape kit, need to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: RWR</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1199638</link>
		<dc:creator>RWR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Elizabeth, it&#039;s just not going to happen. It doesn&#039;t hurt to push a little and maybe make some victories, but it won&#039;t be a priority in any of our lifetimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Elizabeth, it&#8217;s just not going to happen. It doesn&#8217;t hurt to push a little and maybe make some victories, but it won&#8217;t be a priority in any of our lifetimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant money to crime labs for testing is apparently being cut because of a backlog of unspent funding. Rape and sexual assault are never going to be law enforcement and prosecutorial priorities. Shameful but true. It&#039;s never going to be a priority without built-in accountability and oversight by the DOJ (not outsourced) requiring states to report how many rape kits are tested every year. 


It remains unclear why the LAPD and many other labs have not used all their grant money. Several labs contacted by ProPublica had no explanation for why the money hadn&#039;t been spent.

LAPD Assistant Chief Sharon Papa acknowledged that, on paper, the department had nearly $2 million in unspent federal DNA funds as of August. She and her staff said those figures did not account for about $500,000 of DNA work sent to private labs but not yet reflected on balance sheets.&lt;strong&gt;


http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-me-backlog9-2008nov09,0,76082,full.story&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant money to crime labs for testing is apparently being cut because of a backlog of unspent funding. Rape and sexual assault are never going to be law enforcement and prosecutorial priorities. Shameful but true. It&#8217;s never going to be a priority without built-in accountability and oversight by the DOJ (not outsourced) requiring states to report how many rape kits are tested every year. </p>
<p>It remains unclear why the LAPD and many other labs have not used all their grant money. Several labs contacted by ProPublica had no explanation for why the money hadn&#8217;t been spent.</p>
<p>LAPD Assistant Chief Sharon Papa acknowledged that, on paper, the department had nearly $2 million in unspent federal DNA funds as of August. She and her staff said those figures did not account for about $500,000 of DNA work sent to private labs but not yet reflected on balance sheets.<strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-me-backlog9-2008nov09,0,76082,full.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-me-backlog9-2008nov09,0,76082,full.story</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: RWR</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1199632</link>
		<dc:creator>RWR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would you give up to test rape kits?  Yes, I&#039;d like them tested. But this is  a democracy. 1 in 5 women raped in a lifetime (yes, higher and lower estimates exist). 1 in 5 of those a stranger rape (ditto). That&#039;s 1 in 25 women affected. That&#039;s slightly over 1 in 50 people in the US directly impacted. BUT in some communities only half of all stranger rapes are reported so only maybe one in 70 or 80 would ever be directly impacted by a rape kit issue. And some of those in some communities are tested.

Rape is horrific, but as a politician compare the odds that your voters are impacted to the odds they are impacted by cancer, alzheimers crime, immigration issues, single or teen parenting. Voters aren&#039;t going to vote based on this issue, and basically voters really do get what they ask for.

In some places where other issues compete less this may work, but unless you have a politician with a personal interest, I don&#039;t see much chance the emphasis is going to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you give up to test rape kits?  Yes, I&#8217;d like them tested. But this is  a democracy. 1 in 5 women raped in a lifetime (yes, higher and lower estimates exist). 1 in 5 of those a stranger rape (ditto). That&#8217;s 1 in 25 women affected. That&#8217;s slightly over 1 in 50 people in the US directly impacted. BUT in some communities only half of all stranger rapes are reported so only maybe one in 70 or 80 would ever be directly impacted by a rape kit issue. And some of those in some communities are tested.</p>
<p>Rape is horrific, but as a politician compare the odds that your voters are impacted to the odds they are impacted by cancer, alzheimers crime, immigration issues, single or teen parenting. Voters aren&#8217;t going to vote based on this issue, and basically voters really do get what they ask for.</p>
<p>In some places where other issues compete less this may work, but unless you have a politician with a personal interest, I don&#8217;t see much chance the emphasis is going to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that is one of the big issues - funding.  Why WOULDN&#039;T we fund the cost of analyzing the rape test kits?  In the scheme of things, it is a helluva lot less money than the costs of personnel.  

It is a priority issue, as I said, and it says a lot abt what we, as a country, think of as important.  That&#039;s the whole thing...

TX Playwright, you are absolutely right - we have to keep fighting, fighting, fighting for our rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that is one of the big issues &#8211; funding.  Why WOULDN&#8217;T we fund the cost of analyzing the rape test kits?  In the scheme of things, it is a helluva lot less money than the costs of personnel.  </p>
<p>It is a priority issue, as I said, and it says a lot abt what we, as a country, think of as important.  That&#8217;s the whole thing&#8230;</p>
<p>TX Playwright, you are absolutely right &#8211; we have to keep fighting, fighting, fighting for our rights.</p>
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		<title>By: RWR</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1199622</link>
		<dc:creator>RWR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a straight funding issue...you can only perform as many services as you are willing to pay for.  Many parts of our country are virtual 3rd world regions, and if we take in more money it&#039;s unlikely much will go to rape kit testing when we have so many expenses. Far reaching reforms would be required for this situation to change. Do you really think the country is ready for those changes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a straight funding issue&#8230;you can only perform as many services as you are willing to pay for.  Many parts of our country are virtual 3rd world regions, and if we take in more money it&#8217;s unlikely much will go to rape kit testing when we have so many expenses. Far reaching reforms would be required for this situation to change. Do you really think the country is ready for those changes?</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Playwright</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1199602</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Playwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 14:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rev. Amy.  We women MUST stand up for ourselves, again and again, in the USA FIRST, then with and for other countries.  Also, as Ben Affleck, for whom I have a new respect, said, men must own their responsibility in rape and stop other men from committing this crime.

Onward and Upward.  Women--and men--deserve to be respected AND accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rev. Amy.  We women MUST stand up for ourselves, again and again, in the USA FIRST, then with and for other countries.  Also, as Ben Affleck, for whom I have a new respect, said, men must own their responsibility in rape and stop other men from committing this crime.</p>
<p>Onward and Upward.  Women&#8211;and men&#8211;deserve to be respected AND accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good question. It was certainly scheduled to happen under the &quot;Justice for All&quot; bill signed into law in 2004.


http://www.hrw.org/en/node/81825/section/6

In order to permanently eliminate the rape kit backlog and test every booked rape kit in a timely manner, both city and county crime labs will require a significant increase in DNA analysts, expanded workspace for DNA testing, more efficient DNA testing methods and equipment, and a DNA evidence tracking system. DNA testing of rape kits is a complicated process,[27] but both the county and city crime labs can be more efficient in the way they process this critical evidence.
The National Problem

There is no doubt that crime labs across the country are inundated with requests for DNA testing. The most recent federal Census of Publicly Funded Crime Laboratories-released in 2008 using data collected in 2005-shows that during 2005 public crime labs saw their DNA backlog double from the beginning to the end of the year, and that public crime labs across the country would need to increase their DNA analyst staff by 73 percent to keep up with DNA testing needs and requests.[28]

Congress has recognized the problem of rape kit backlogs in crime laboratories. In 2004 Congress passed the Debbie Smith Act as part of the Justice for All Act.[29] The Debbie Smith Act established the Forensic DNA Casework and Backlog Reduction Grant Program, which provides federal funds for state and local law enforcement entities to test DNA evidence.[30] Both the Los Angeles City and County crime labs have been allocated substantial funding from the program, also known as the Forensic DNA Backlog Reduction Program. But it is not clear how much, if any, of the money was used to test rape kits. That the Police and Sheriff&#039;s Departments&#039; rape kit backlogs remained constant or grew, despite millions of dollars in Debbie Smith Act funding, illustrates what is wrong with the current structure of the federal grant program to reduce rape kit backlogs in the US.&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good question. It was certainly scheduled to happen under the &#8220;Justice for All&#8221; bill signed into law in 2004.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/node/81825/section/6" rel="nofollow">http://www.hrw.org/en/node/81825/section/6</a></p>
<p>In order to permanently eliminate the rape kit backlog and test every booked rape kit in a timely manner, both city and county crime labs will require a significant increase in DNA analysts, expanded workspace for DNA testing, more efficient DNA testing methods and equipment, and a DNA evidence tracking system. DNA testing of rape kits is a complicated process,[27] but both the county and city crime labs can be more efficient in the way they process this critical evidence.<br />
The National Problem</p>
<p>There is no doubt that crime labs across the country are inundated with requests for DNA testing. The most recent federal Census of Publicly Funded Crime Laboratories-released in 2008 using data collected in 2005-shows that during 2005 public crime labs saw their DNA backlog double from the beginning to the end of the year, and that public crime labs across the country would need to increase their DNA analyst staff by 73 percent to keep up with DNA testing needs and requests.[28]</p>
<p>Congress has recognized the problem of rape kit backlogs in crime laboratories. In 2004 Congress passed the Debbie Smith Act as part of the Justice for All Act.[29] The Debbie Smith Act established the Forensic DNA Casework and Backlog Reduction Grant Program, which provides federal funds for state and local law enforcement entities to test DNA evidence.[30] Both the Los Angeles City and County crime labs have been allocated substantial funding from the program, also known as the Forensic DNA Backlog Reduction Program. But it is not clear how much, if any, of the money was used to test rape kits. That the Police and Sheriff&#8217;s Departments&#8217; rape kit backlogs remained constant or grew, despite millions of dollars in Debbie Smith Act funding, illustrates what is wrong with the current structure of the federal grant program to reduce rape kit backlogs in the US.<strong></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point, jbjd - it is all abt priorities, and, well, women AREN&#039;T one.

And Kathy, you are absolutely right abt how we&#039;d treat other countries that act similarly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, jbjd &#8211; it is all abt priorities, and, well, women AREN&#8217;T one.</p>
<p>And Kathy, you are absolutely right abt how we&#8217;d treat other countries that act similarly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/01/kits-languish-on-shelves-for-years/#comment-1199588</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, YES!  Maybe our Sec of State could help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, YES!  Maybe our Sec of State could help?</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 12:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lorac, everything you&#039;ve said is true. However, the delay in processing the rape kit really has nothing whatever to do with any of that. Processing the rape kit is a matter of labs and personnel, not a question of whether or not the DA thinks he can win a case. 

And, in fact, the DA in the case specifically mentioned by RRRAmy, the DA could have made a strong case. If only the rape kit had been processed within 30 days.

I suspect many more strong cases could be made by DAs across the country if rape kits were processed within 30 days. 

Yes, there are many reasons women retreat from prosecuting their rapists. However, processing of the rape kit in a timely manner is a civil right, and women clearly are being robbed of that right by apathy, and a sexist legal system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lorac, everything you&#8217;ve said is true. However, the delay in processing the rape kit really has nothing whatever to do with any of that. Processing the rape kit is a matter of labs and personnel, not a question of whether or not the DA thinks he can win a case. </p>
<p>And, in fact, the DA in the case specifically mentioned by RRRAmy, the DA could have made a strong case. If only the rape kit had been processed within 30 days.</p>
<p>I suspect many more strong cases could be made by DAs across the country if rape kits were processed within 30 days. </p>
<p>Yes, there are many reasons women retreat from prosecuting their rapists. However, processing of the rape kit in a timely manner is a civil right, and women clearly are being robbed of that right by apathy, and a sexist legal system.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 12:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve known about this for years, and yes, it enrages me. Personally, that&#039;s why I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to protect myself with Smith &amp; Wesson. 

Why isn&#039;t there a federal mandated time limit on rape kit processing? Why? Just tell me why. We have a right to a speedy trial in this country. Our rights are being denied if rape kit processing takes years, at best many months. And, we&#039;re being put in danger daily by the delay.

Someone please. Just tell me &lt;strong&gt;why we don&#039;t have a law mandating rape kit processing within 30 days. &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known about this for years, and yes, it enrages me. Personally, that&#8217;s why I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to protect myself with Smith &amp; Wesson. </p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t there a federal mandated time limit on rape kit processing? Why? Just tell me why. We have a right to a speedy trial in this country. Our rights are being denied if rape kit processing takes years, at best many months. And, we&#8217;re being put in danger daily by the delay.</p>
<p>Someone please. Just tell me <strong>why we don&#8217;t have a law mandating rape kit processing within 30 days. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 09:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes me soo angry. I had read about this backlog about a year ago and I was shocked and disgusted.  I would like to be pro-active in changing this.  

Short of raising funds to have these rape kits processed, it would appear that the only way to get the city&#039;s to process the rape kits in a timely manner or at all, would be to have a &lt;strong&gt;class action lawsuit&lt;/strong&gt; by Gloria Alred type of attorney or the ACLU. 

Any ideas anyone?  &lt;strong&gt;Rev. Amy, perhaps through your article, a grass roots campaign to get this atrocity put right, could begin.  What say you?  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me soo angry. I had read about this backlog about a year ago and I was shocked and disgusted.  I would like to be pro-active in changing this.  </p>
<p>Short of raising funds to have these rape kits processed, it would appear that the only way to get the city&#8217;s to process the rape kits in a timely manner or at all, would be to have a <strong>class action lawsuit</strong> by Gloria Alred type of attorney or the ACLU. </p>
<p>Any ideas anyone?  <strong>Rev. Amy, perhaps through your article, a grass roots campaign to get this atrocity put right, could begin.  What say you?<br />
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