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		<title>By: Mark67</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are some of the lessons emerging from these experiences? ,</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Humans who give vultures a bad name&#8221; &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Humans who give vultures a bad name&#8221; &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 10:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who give vultures a bad&#160;name&#8221;  Posted on May 6, 2009 by Uppity Woman   Pat Racimora at No Quarter reminded me that I really should remind you that the &#8220;There is a sucker born every [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] who give vultures a bad&nbsp;name&#8221;  Posted on May 6, 2009 by Uppity Woman   Pat Racimora at No Quarter reminded me that I really should remind you that the &#8220;There is a sucker born every [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SiliconDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/04/humans-who-give-vultures-a-bad-name/#comment-1200901</link>
		<dc:creator>SiliconDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, I'm suddenly really sad and embarrassed. See I got this SS number when I was born, then this O guy thought to be so great scammed his way onto my TV, then into all the banks, and next thing you know I'm the hook for like 10-20 years of tax payments, and he gave to all the loot his wall street crime buddies, and I didn't sign anything.
 I know, somehow I've got to protect myself better.
Yeah, not just a vulture, more like an arch vampire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I&#8217;m suddenly really sad and embarrassed. See I got this SS number when I was born, then this O guy thought to be so great scammed his way onto my TV, then into all the banks, and next thing you know I&#8217;m the hook for like 10-20 years of tax payments, and he gave to all the loot his wall street crime buddies, and I didn&#8217;t sign anything.<br />
 I know, somehow I&#8217;ve got to protect myself better.<br />
Yeah, not just a vulture, more like an arch vampire.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/04/humans-who-give-vultures-a-bad-name/#comment-1200867</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If eyes really are the windows to the soul…I could never look into any vultures eyes and not have my eyes well with tears from the sadness I saw. 

Interesting story thanks Diana.

Learn somthing new every day, Thanks Pat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If eyes really are the windows to the soul…I could never look into any vultures eyes and not have my eyes well with tears from the sadness I saw. </p>
<p>Interesting story thanks Diana.</p>
<p>Learn somthing new every day, Thanks Pat.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/04/humans-who-give-vultures-a-bad-name/#comment-1200865</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 05:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else do mix in the bath tub Ben? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else do mix in the bath tub Ben? <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: samsyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>samsyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 05:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hii ..
I am interested with your post, I will frequently visit your blog. Thanks my friend.</description>
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I am interested with your post, I will frequently visit your blog. Thanks my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Topics about Lenders &#187; Humans Who Give Vultures a Bad Name</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/04/humans-who-give-vultures-a-bad-name/#comment-1200839</link>
		<dc:creator>Topics about Lenders &#187; Humans Who Give Vultures a Bad Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 04:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dewey created an interesting post today on Humans Who Give Vultures a Bad NameHere&#8217;s a short outlineThe economy is booming in at least one sector, namely fraudsters out to separate you from your money. These human stains have always existed, of course, but the meteoric rise in the sheer number of scams in recent weeks is startling. And what better target than the already weakened? People who&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dewey created an interesting post today on Humans Who Give Vultures a Bad NameHere&#8217;s a short outlineThe economy is booming in at least one sector, namely fraudsters out to separate you from your money. These human stains have always existed, of course, but the meteoric rise in the sheer number of scams in recent weeks is startling. And what better target than the already weakened? People who&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ConfusedAmerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConfusedAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like there is a lot wrong with the picture.  I have a feeling that they are more money from politicians in DC escaping taxes than companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like there is a lot wrong with the picture.  I have a feeling that they are more money from politicians in DC escaping taxes than companies.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well that I agree with completely.</description>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, I understand the +6 are the industrial ones.  have not heard about problems with chromium nicotinate but wouldn't be that surprised if they did occur either (former chemistry (shcolarship) student here, switched to soil science.  I like chemistry, though!).  Have they even got the exact structure of it yet?  I'm aware that the processes for making it can yield different products.  I read something about it in a magazine just a couple of months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, I understand the +6 are the industrial ones.  have not heard about problems with chromium nicotinate but wouldn&#8217;t be that surprised if they did occur either (former chemistry (shcolarship) student here, switched to soil science.  I like chemistry, though!).  Have they even got the exact structure of it yet?  I&#8217;m aware that the processes for making it can yield different products.  I read something about it in a magazine just a couple of months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I saw Obama talking about this with tax cheat Tim Geithner standing next to him.  I guess ole Tim can help him with all those tax loopholes.  You can't help but think what is wrong with this picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I saw Obama talking about this with tax cheat Tim Geithner standing next to him.  I guess ole Tim can help him with all those tax loopholes.  You can&#8217;t help but think what is wrong with this picture.</p>
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		<title>By: ConfusedAmerican</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/04/humans-who-give-vultures-a-bad-name/#comment-1200806</link>
		<dc:creator>ConfusedAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey what about all these politicians that have and are still getting away with thousands of dollars in unpaid taxes.... IF that isnt a scam I dont know what is...
Now Obama is trying to get more tax codes to get more money from US idustries, especially the ones with over seas interests. He is even hiring more IRS agents to go after them with.  
"&lt;em&gt;Obama also proposed a package of disclosure and enforcement measures designed to make it harder for financial institutions to help wealthy individuals evade taxes in overseas accounts. Obama said the government is hiring nearly 800 new IRS agents to enforce the tax code.&lt;/em&gt;" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090505/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_taxes

Hmmmm Wouldnt it be nice if the agents looked into all the politicians accounts. I think every congressman, person working on Capitol Hill could use a good audit.  One about every 3 or 4 years before they can campaign again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey what about all these politicians that have and are still getting away with thousands of dollars in unpaid taxes&#8230;. IF that isnt a scam I dont know what is&#8230;<br />
Now Obama is trying to get more tax codes to get more money from US idustries, especially the ones with over seas interests. He is even hiring more IRS agents to go after them with.<br />
&#8220;<em>Obama also proposed a package of disclosure and enforcement measures designed to make it harder for financial institutions to help wealthy individuals evade taxes in overseas accounts. Obama said the government is hiring nearly 800 new IRS agents to enforce the tax code.</em>&#8221; <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090505/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_taxes" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090505/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_taxes</a></p>
<p>Hmmmm Wouldnt it be nice if the agents looked into all the politicians accounts. I think every congressman, person working on Capitol Hill could use a good audit.  One about every 3 or 4 years before they can campaign again.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Franklin Berfle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From: http://www.pharmpro.com/ShowPR.aspx?PUBCODE=021&amp;ACCT=0000100&amp;ISSUE=0905&amp;RELTYPE=IN&amp;PRODCODE=0000&amp;PRODLETT=C&amp;CommonCount=0

The FDA is warning consumers to immediately stop using Hydroxycut products by Iovate Health Sciences Inc., of Oakville, Ontario and distributed by Iovate Health Sciences USA Inc. of Blasdell, N.Y. Some Hydroxycut products are associated with a number of serious liver injuries. Iovate has agreed to recall Hydroxycut products from the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From: <a href="http://www.pharmpro.com/ShowPR.aspx?PUBCODE=021&amp;ACCT=0000100&amp;ISSUE=0905&amp;RELTYPE=IN&amp;PRODCODE=0000&amp;PRODLETT=C&amp;CommonCount=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.pharmpro.com/ShowPR.aspx?PUBCODE=021&amp;ACCT=0000100&amp;ISSUE=0905&amp;RELTYPE=IN&amp;PRODCODE=0000&amp;PRODLETT=C&amp;CommonCount=0</a></p>
<p>The FDA is warning consumers to immediately stop using Hydroxycut products by Iovate Health Sciences Inc., of Oakville, Ontario and distributed by Iovate Health Sciences USA Inc. of Blasdell, N.Y. Some Hydroxycut products are associated with a number of serious liver injuries. Iovate has agreed to recall Hydroxycut products from the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Franklin Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/04/humans-who-give-vultures-a-bad-name/#comment-1200781</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NNN: I'm not against "real" supplements or real vitamins. I take them myself. It is the crap which is sold by the boatload to unsuspecting consumers with the promises of newfound health or weight loss and fat reduction &lt;strong&gt;without&lt;/strong&gt; exercise or even a rudimentary ability to push away from the table in some timely fashion.

Most "real" vitamins aren't even advertised because they have long outlived any patents and are generic. Vitamin C is Vitamin C, irrespective of claims by any company that theirs is "better". Do you see where I'm coming from?

The only supplements I think need regulation are the ones that make unfound, undocumented, unscientific, and unreal claims.

Ferd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NNN: I&#8217;m not against &#8220;real&#8221; supplements or real vitamins. I take them myself. It is the crap which is sold by the boatload to unsuspecting consumers with the promises of newfound health or weight loss and fat reduction <strong>without</strong> exercise or even a rudimentary ability to push away from the table in some timely fashion.</p>
<p>Most &#8220;real&#8221; vitamins aren&#8217;t even advertised because they have long outlived any patents and are generic. Vitamin C is Vitamin C, irrespective of claims by any company that theirs is &#8220;better&#8221;. Do you see where I&#8217;m coming from?</p>
<p>The only supplements I think need regulation are the ones that make unfound, undocumented, unscientific, and unreal claims.</p>
<p>Ferd</p>
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		<title>By: shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellen, someone called in on Rush Limbaugh's show and said they were ripped off of $1,000 after filling in information on Obama's mortgage help website.  Apparently some lawyer called him and wanted $1,000 to help him renegotiate his mortgage.  It sounded like the lawyer took his money and ran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellen, someone called in on Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s show and said they were ripped off of $1,000 after filling in information on Obama&#8217;s mortgage help website.  Apparently some lawyer called him and wanted $1,000 to help him renegotiate his mortgage.  It sounded like the lawyer took his money and ran.</p>
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		<title>By: shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't hydroxycut just kill someone?</description>
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		<title>By: Tricia Spiegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia Spiegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear Baba Rum Raison!  Good quick advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear Baba Rum Raison!  Good quick advice!</p>
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		<title>By: mamakay</title>
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		<dc:creator>mamakay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is true Solara but think of Bernie Madoff.  He was a total ass hole for 20 years and really caused so much pain, but now he is in an 8 x 8 cell and  can see the sunshine for an hour a day.  YEAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true Solara but think of Bernie Madoff.  He was a total ass hole for 20 years and really caused so much pain, but now he is in an 8 x 8 cell and  can see the sunshine for an hour a day.  YEAH</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Franklin Berfle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picolinates would never pass my lips.

The chromium chloride that you mention is always in a non-hexavalent state as far as I'm aware.

Nicotinate is troublesome. Morevover, It is in combination with the metals I worry about. I still wouldn't take it. I'm a chemist, btw, and understand those pesky oxidation states of chromium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picolinates would never pass my lips.</p>
<p>The chromium chloride that you mention is always in a non-hexavalent state as far as I&#8217;m aware.</p>
<p>Nicotinate is troublesome. Morevover, It is in combination with the metals I worry about. I still wouldn&#8217;t take it. I&#8217;m a chemist, btw, and understand those pesky oxidation states of chromium.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, I agree vs a lot of the tv infomercial stuff: but very few supplements are actually sold this way: most are in health food stores and supplement stores and in the vitamin section of a lot of stores.
I am not recommending anyone take Extenz!

IMO there has always been and will always be a need for a caveat emptor philosophy, especially with claims that sound too good to be true.

However the attempts to "regulate" supplements, including vitamins, is a clear attempt of the medical/ pharmaceutical industry to control the market and has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to improve anyone's health.  
If they were so freaking concerned with health, there wouldn't be a new regulated drug being recalled every week, and I could turn on my tv without seeing some new commercial meant to tempt people into purchasing a drug they've never before suspected they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I agree vs a lot of the tv infomercial stuff: but very few supplements are actually sold this way: most are in health food stores and supplement stores and in the vitamin section of a lot of stores.<br />
I am not recommending anyone take Extenz!</p>
<p>IMO there has always been and will always be a need for a caveat emptor philosophy, especially with claims that sound too good to be true.</p>
<p>However the attempts to &#8220;regulate&#8221; supplements, including vitamins, is a clear attempt of the medical/ pharmaceutical industry to control the market and has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to improve anyone&#8217;s health.<br />
If they were so freaking concerned with health, there wouldn&#8217;t be a new regulated drug being recalled every week, and I could turn on my tv without seeing some new commercial meant to tempt people into purchasing a drug they&#8217;ve never before suspected they need.</p>
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