Comments on: (Open Thread Too) “Hacking Democracy” LIVE CHAT Wed. May 6th at 9:00 PM (EST)

By: b mathews

b mathews — Wed, 06 May 2009 20:15:07 +0000

dont know if this is OT but i read recently that folks recieving social security will NOT be getting anymore cost of living increases until 2013. even then its only 1.5%. are they kidding? trillions for banks, automakers and illegal aliens but lets cut back on seniors who can barely make ends meet now!this is a disgrace!!1 i have written sen.harry reid asking if this is true and if he backs this. if so i, and many of my fellow seniors will NOT be voting for him in the 2010 election. i suggest anyone living in nevada do the same.

By: Tricia Spiegel

Tricia Spiegel — Wed, 06 May 2009 17:14:50 +0000

This is so disturbing. Thank you for sharing this with NQ readers. I am looking forward to seeing this documentary.

By: jbjd

jbjd — Wed, 06 May 2009 15:29:49 +0000

I absolutely agree in paper balloting but, this system is not foolproof, either. On the negative side… When I showed up to vote in the primary, I was handed 2 (two) ballots, presumably by accident. (They were ’stuck’ together.) I realized the mistake before I voted; luckily, I returned the extra ballot. But I could just as easily have voted twice. (My teenage son witnessed this; he votes with me at every election.) On the positive side, representatives from all parties involved get to witness the official counting by state elections officials.

By: jbjd

jbjd — Wed, 06 May 2009 15:24:24 +0000

tek, everything starts from there; BO in concert with the DNC stole the D nomination from HRC. I documented that even in binding vote states – there are around 13 of these – that is, in states that enacted laws requiring pledged delegates to stick with their candidates on the floor of the convention; BO’s thugs were pressuring these delegates to switch BEFORE the convention, thus enticing them to break the law.(Governor Rendell said on FOX there is no such thing as a pledged delegate; not surprisingly, PA is not a binding vote state.)

By: tek

tek — Wed, 06 May 2009 15:10:56 +0000

Nancy: seriously, I am beginning to think the only antidote for the U. S. is a breakup. This country is too big with too many people for average people to have an impact the way they did in 1776. Only the federal government has the resources and manpower to control the inner workings of the country and states. Naturally, it’s all become terribly corrupt.

By: tek

tek — Wed, 06 May 2009 15:06:56 +0000

HARP: I have to say, I don’t like a police state, but I would prefer it to being at the mercy of the Mexican Mafia. Of course, over time, it will morph into the same thing.

By: tek

tek — Wed, 06 May 2009 15:05:10 +0000

Glenn: I, too, was a BradBlog fan. I am still befuddled by journos seeking honesty who embraced Obama. What troubles me even more is that, now he’s in office, lots of people who were outraged at him during the campaigns are giving him the benefit of the doubt because they want the Democrats to be in power.

I believe we should never forget how he STOLE the nomination from Hillary. We should never forget the people (DNC, Axelrod, Durbin, Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle) who helped him steal it and we should guard against such a fiasco in the future.

I fear, though, that the hispanic illegals will be amnestied and the Democrats will have a fail-proof majority that is corrupt. Then, we’ll get a hispanic president and the whole country will Mexico North (i.e., Miami). Once cubans got political power in Miami, only Cubans can hold public office. The federal government seems determined to do this to the whole country. If an amnesty goes through, we will instantly have 75 million Mexicans alone in the U. S. who will have the vote. Go look at NumbersUSA.com. Only about 1.5 million Americans vote, so where will that leave us?

By: tek

tek — Wed, 06 May 2009 14:57:48 +0000

I know of countless incidents where Democrats in 2000 and 2004 hit buttons for Gore or Kerry and the machine registered George W. Bush. Never corrected. Once politicians in both parties saw that it was possible to steal elections electronically, even the shadow of democracy ended in the U. S. (and we all know Obama is more techie than everyone else, right)?

It’s ironic that Rose Kennedy made that remark because I did not know until the ‘08 election (this is embarrassing because I’m a historian) that the Chicago machine fixed the 1960 election for John Kennedy. I saw it in a documentary about Frank Sinatra! But it was reliably sourced.

By: Peg

Peg — Wed, 06 May 2009 14:07:56 +0000

Thank you Kathleen Wynne, Black Box Voting.org, and No Quarter. Without the integrity and credibility of the voting system, we have no democracy.

By: SiliconDoc

SiliconDoc — Wed, 06 May 2009 13:53:12 +0000

I have a very large problem with any voting system that doesn’t start with the citizen scribing (or changing in some form such as a chad punch) upon a paper ballot.
The simple reason is, if an electronic machine merely spits out a count on tiny piece of standard issue cash register paper, as I saw, this leaves a recount impossible, or some very dark process of lies.
In todays world, I can clearly see many people applauding in approval as the spinmeister holds up the register tape and says “We have a paper trail, it’s right here” – and the press person or interviewer, makes some comment or follow up question, likely even on another area of inquiry, and if not ” But isn’t that paper trail insufficient? ” in that lovely reporters tone that is so irritating.
I guess the laughter and words fraudster and liar, and the bloodied nose are a thing of the past.
There is a lot of fraud with paper ballots as well, but the paperless vote is a gigantic insult to the USA, and to all those humiliated by forced participation – who have every right to be absolutely outraged.
There is no backup, nvram be damned.

By: HARP

HARP — Wed, 06 May 2009 13:10:17 +0000

Military Police at the Kentucky Derby:

“The military has NO BUSINESS policing the citizens except during extraordinarily exceptional times of national emergency by an “executive order”. This is very disturbing and completely un-American. Maybe even more disturbing is that no one seems to care how quietly and easily we have accepted the burgeoning police state.”

http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/Military-Police-at-the-Kentucky-Derby.aspx

By: Glennmcgahee

Glennmcgahee — Wed, 06 May 2009 11:41:40 +0000

Thank you No Quarter for giving Kathleen another outlet to get the message to the people. I’ve been paying attention for years to this topic. I live in Florida. The good folks at Blackboxvoting have done more to peel back the onion on our loss of voting rights than any other group. These ladies (yes, the leaders of BBB are ladies) have even taken to dumpster diving in select areas, finding not only poll tapes but also ballots. They have had the law sicked on ‘em while persuing what the entire country should have been paying attention to. All the work they’ve done is amazing and they’ve had to hack through a jungle just to get a smidgen of attention from any media. Like corrupt voting machinery and missing ballots shouldn’t concern us at home when we are busy voting for American Idol by telephone or text. I got turned onto them originally through The BradBlog. He’s been a relentless advocate for voting transparency and I read him religiously until he too, fell under the Obama spell somehow, believing Obama to be an honest broker. To be honest myself, I quit reading the blog there and don’t know if he’s reconsidered. But I’m from Florida, we fought against the voting machines, we at least got a paper receipt of our vote for audit and thats exactly what cost us our Primary that gave Hillary 1.8 million votes and as we all know now, we didn’t even go to the polls that day, it was all a mirage. Then, my former party, decided that I was only half a voter when it no longer could make a difference. Thats when I left the Democrat Party and awakened. Kathleen, thanks for your relentless advocacy on behalf of those who are in the dark and those who could care less. I had wondered if anybody cared anymore. The Dems sure don’t anymore since they won. We never did get to any of those hearings that were promised did we?

By: Tom Cat "wodie j" Jefferson Esq

Tom Cat "wodie j" Jefferson Esq — Wed, 06 May 2009 11:34:51 +0000

we reap what we sow. What’s sad is Elizabeth Edwards standing by this creep and then doing so to keep Hillary from winning. Sounds to me like one of those “stand by your man” women who will take any shit a man dishes out and has no self respect.

By: SiliconDoc

SiliconDoc — Wed, 06 May 2009 10:25:32 +0000

Hillary was ROBBED any way one looks at it – the whole situation was disgraceful – from media right down to caucuses.
That was quite a wake up call.

By: SiliconDoc

SiliconDoc — Wed, 06 May 2009 10:21:18 +0000

Ok, but without the money from the big 3 abc, nbc, cbs, non cable broadcast, cable couldn’t pay for the VNS plus renamed to what now system. Did you notice Walter Cronkite at instant vote pickup company in 2000&2004 ?
So…. cable is nothing on vote night without the big 3. Nothing.