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		<title>By: Jim Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps being an Arabic Linguist &lt;em&gt;makes you gay&lt;/em&gt; and we need to stop this training process immediately.    If your child has a propensity for learning Arabic,  it&#039;s time for an intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps being an Arabic Linguist <em>makes you gay</em> and we need to stop this training process immediately.    If your child has a propensity for learning Arabic,  it&#8217;s time for an intervention.</p>
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		<title>By: Topics about Army &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DADT Is Alive And Well; DOMA, Too : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Topics about Army &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DADT Is Alive And Well; DOMA, Too : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 05:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scott Simmons Jim Allen placed an observative post today on DADT Is Alive And Well; DOMA, Too : NO QUARTERHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt&#8230; Bill Richardson, Black Agenda Report, Black Liberation Theology , Black nationalism, Blackwater, Bloggers, Bobby Kennedy, Bolshevikization, Breaking News, British, Buffoon, Bush administration, Bush Faith-Based Programs, Bush/Cheney &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scott Simmons Jim Allen placed an observative post today on DADT Is Alive And Well; DOMA, Too : NO QUARTERHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt&#8230; Bill Richardson, Black Agenda Report, Black Liberation Theology , Black nationalism, Blackwater, Bloggers, Bobby Kennedy, Bolshevikization, Breaking News, British, Buffoon, Bush administration, Bush Faith-Based Programs, Bush/Cheney &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/10/dadt-is-alive-and-well-doma-too/#comment-1203632</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even more than McClurkin, but Obama HAND-PICKING Tim Kaine, who is anti-gay, to be the Chair of the DNC!  That speaks volumes...

Great points, Woman VOter and Ani!  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even more than McClurkin, but Obama HAND-PICKING Tim Kaine, who is anti-gay, to be the Chair of the DNC!  That speaks volumes&#8230;</p>
<p>Great points, Woman VOter and Ani!  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason being that the GLBT vote is a very small percentage compared to the voting blocks he is going after for re-election -- those blocks are usually not in favor of Gay rights, to put it mildly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason being that the GLBT vote is a very small percentage compared to the voting blocks he is going after for re-election &#8212; those blocks are usually not in favor of Gay rights, to put it mildly.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 02:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never believed for a second that BHO would repeal DADT as he claimed, not after McClurkin: he says or implies what his audience wants to hear.  I do believe Clinton would have moved quickly on this issue.  Also McKinney; Nader.

One more reason to get rid of both of these awful parties:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/10/mccain-dont-ask-dont-tell/
McCAIN: But in all due respect, right now the military is functioning extremely well in very difficult conditions. We have to have an assessment on recruitment, on retention and all the other aspects of the impact on our military if we change the policy. In my view, and I know that a lot of people don’t agree with that, the policy has been working and I think it’s been working well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never believed for a second that BHO would repeal DADT as he claimed, not after McClurkin: he says or implies what his audience wants to hear.  I do believe Clinton would have moved quickly on this issue.  Also McKinney; Nader.</p>
<p>One more reason to get rid of both of these awful parties:<br />
<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/10/mccain-dont-ask-dont-tell/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/10/mccain-dont-ask-dont-tell/</a><br />
McCAIN: But in all due respect, right now the military is functioning extremely well in very difficult conditions. We have to have an assessment on recruitment, on retention and all the other aspects of the impact on our military if we change the policy. In my view, and I know that a lot of people don’t agree with that, the policy has been working and I think it’s been working well.</p>
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		<title>By: Woman Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woman Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

President Obama doesn&#039;t have Collin Powell working to undermine him (even going public to undermine Clinton) and threatening to quit and bring on the
wrath of dissent.  Obama has the press/media eating out of his hand, he could correct the wrongs, but he chooses not too and that is truly the sad part.  Everyone deserves Civil Rights and Human Rights...everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>President Obama doesn&#8217;t have Collin Powell working to undermine him (even going public to undermine Clinton) and threatening to quit and bring on the<br />
wrath of dissent.  Obama has the press/media eating out of his hand, he could correct the wrongs, but he chooses not too and that is truly the sad part.  Everyone deserves Civil Rights and Human Rights&#8230;everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do - and Obama could push for Congress to overturn it, like he said he was going to do (when he wanted votes).  Once he got elected, he started backtracking on that promise.  

That&#039;s the big issue - that he continues to drag his feet on this instead of making it a priority.

I like your &quot;congresscritters&quot; - good one!

And you KNOW I am all for Rabble Rousers to get to work!

But I disagree abt HRC - I think she would have pushed the issue much sooner.  She has been opposed to DADT since its inception.

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do &#8211; and Obama could push for Congress to overturn it, like he said he was going to do (when he wanted votes).  Once he got elected, he started backtracking on that promise.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the big issue &#8211; that he continues to drag his feet on this instead of making it a priority.</p>
<p>I like your &#8220;congresscritters&#8221; &#8211; good one!</p>
<p>And you KNOW I am all for Rabble Rousers to get to work!</p>
<p>But I disagree abt HRC &#8211; I think she would have pushed the issue much sooner.  She has been opposed to DADT since its inception.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: James (San Jose)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James (San Jose)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRA you do realize that DADT is a law right? It is mandated by federal law Pub.L. 103-160 (10 U.S.C. § 654. You do also realize that Obama is obligated by the constitution to uphold the law right? You also do realize that failure to uphold the law, even a law as pointless, cruel and counterproductive as DADT would be grounds for impeachment. You should also realize that defense hawk HRC would have done the exact same thing if she were president. She two would have been forced to execute DADT as Commander In Chief.

The only way DADT gets placed on the ash-heap of history is if Congress voids it. The only way that happens is that political grass roots pressure forces Congress to do the right thing. Right now there are probably not enough Senator to pass a repeal of DADT on an up or down vote, forget the sixty votes required to overcome a Republican filibuster.

RRA we can&#039;t even get Congress to stand strong on torture, all of a sudden they are going to find their inner civil libertarian? They are going to stand up to the Christian Crazy Homophobes and other bigots that still support DADT? Not in a month of Sundays. The only DADT gets repealed is if Rabble Rousers are able to convince voters to punish supporters of this rotten law. Once Senators and Congresscritters get the message that homophobia is a loosing proposition DADT days will be numbered. Congress made the law, it can unmake it. But while it is still law the president has no choice but to enforce it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRA you do realize that DADT is a law right? It is mandated by federal law Pub.L. 103-160 (10 U.S.C. § 654. You do also realize that Obama is obligated by the constitution to uphold the law right? You also do realize that failure to uphold the law, even a law as pointless, cruel and counterproductive as DADT would be grounds for impeachment. You should also realize that defense hawk HRC would have done the exact same thing if she were president. She two would have been forced to execute DADT as Commander In Chief.</p>
<p>The only way DADT gets placed on the ash-heap of history is if Congress voids it. The only way that happens is that political grass roots pressure forces Congress to do the right thing. Right now there are probably not enough Senator to pass a repeal of DADT on an up or down vote, forget the sixty votes required to overcome a Republican filibuster.</p>
<p>RRA we can&#8217;t even get Congress to stand strong on torture, all of a sudden they are going to find their inner civil libertarian? They are going to stand up to the Christian Crazy Homophobes and other bigots that still support DADT? Not in a month of Sundays. The only DADT gets repealed is if Rabble Rousers are able to convince voters to punish supporters of this rotten law. Once Senators and Congresscritters get the message that homophobia is a loosing proposition DADT days will be numbered. Congress made the law, it can unmake it. But while it is still law the president has no choice but to enforce it.</p>
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		<title>By: benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 20:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm............ not balanced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; not balanced.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/10/dadt-is-alive-and-well-doma-too/#comment-1203143</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ani -

ANd that&#039;s the million dollar question, isn&#039;t it?  You have these incredibly well trained people who WANT to serve their country, and do so with distinction, yet because of whom they LOVE, they are kicked out.  Other countries all over the world have out people serving in their armed services with NO problems at all.  In fact, if people aren&#039;t trying to hide who they are, they will be happier, more well-rounded people.  IMHO, that is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ani -</p>
<p>ANd that&#8217;s the million dollar question, isn&#8217;t it?  You have these incredibly well trained people who WANT to serve their country, and do so with distinction, yet because of whom they LOVE, they are kicked out.  Other countries all over the world have out people serving in their armed services with NO problems at all.  In fact, if people aren&#8217;t trying to hide who they are, they will be happier, more well-rounded people.  IMHO, that is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece, Rev. Amy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece, Rev. Amy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/10/dadt-is-alive-and-well-doma-too/#comment-1203118</link>
		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 17:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have immense difficulty understanding how any in authority in our military could be so blind and cruel as to reject capable, loyal military personnel on the basis of sexual orientation.  So much for all men and women being created equal. 

Discrimination is discrimination.

How can you fault someone for trying to serve their country.  President Obama needs to make a helluva lot more noise about this and keep his promise.  Aside from the more important issue that it is the right thing to do, we are losing out on the service of military personnel who are vital to our efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have immense difficulty understanding how any in authority in our military could be so blind and cruel as to reject capable, loyal military personnel on the basis of sexual orientation.  So much for all men and women being created equal. </p>
<p>Discrimination is discrimination.</p>
<p>How can you fault someone for trying to serve their country.  President Obama needs to make a helluva lot more noise about this and keep his promise.  Aside from the more important issue that it is the right thing to do, we are losing out on the service of military personnel who are vital to our efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: foxyladi14</title>
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		<dc:creator>foxyladi14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>career soldiers getting fired.SHAME ON YOU BARAK OBAMA..
seems i.ve heard that before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>career soldiers getting fired.SHAME ON YOU BARAK OBAMA..<br />
seems i.ve heard that before.</p>
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		<title>By: Woman Voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woman Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOASKDOTELL VIDEO REVIEW “Gays in the Military” and “To Support and Defend”
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
DOASKDOTELL VIDEO REVIEW “Gays in the Military” and “To Support and Defend”

Benecke  describes military brass as “apoplectic” about Clinton’s campaign promise to lift the ban, once they suddenly realized he really wanted to fulfill it. Senator Sam Nunn would actually hide behind the idea of violence against gays, and Colin Powell would reportedly threaten to resign. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.doaskdotell.com/movies/vgaymil.htm

&amp;

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Collin Powell
The US secretary of state dislikes military intervention because he has problems understanding the world
Lawrence F Kaplan

recounts Edward Luttwak, &quot;Powell overruled the newly inaugurated Clinton with contemptuous ease.&quot; In at least one instance-the 1993 dust-up over gays in the military-Powell skirted the edge of insubordination. Exploiting Clinton&#039;s weakness vis-à-vis the armed forces, Powell went public with his opposition to the plan to integrate homosexuals into the military, letting it be known that he might resign over the issue and humiliating Clinton into negotiating with-and all but surrendering to-his own military chiefs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=3392  

It was Collin Powell who led the charge blocking the doors of the military, Civil Rights, and Human Rights of men and women who were serving their country.  These men and women had served honorably and bravely and he stood like a bully blocking their Civil Rights, not with a cogent argument (there was none), but threatening to undermine the Commander and Chief, the President of the United States, by throwing a tantrum and threatening to quit.  A few months later, he retired, after having acted against the Commander and Chief, President Bill Clinton. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Colin Powell, Who Led U.S. Military Into a New Era, Resigns
By ERIC SCHMITT,
Published: Friday, October 1, 1993

In a farewell ceremony today on the parade grounds of Fort Myer, Va., bands played, flags flapped in a blustery fall breeze and fighter jets soared in salute to a soldier who President Clinton said symbolized &quot;a victory for the American dream, for the principle that in our nation, people can rise as far as their talent, their capacity, their dreams and their discipline will carry them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/01/us/colin-powell-who-led-us-military-into-a-new-era-resigns.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/C/Clinton,%20Bill

So, he left most pleased with himself (having gotten what he wanted, while threatening to leave) and today others would have you believe that he has changed his position, but if you listen closely to his words, he never says what he did was wrong or that he regrets the harm it has caused so many (thousands) soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOASKDOTELL VIDEO REVIEW “Gays in the Military” and “To Support and Defend”</p>
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DOASKDOTELL VIDEO REVIEW “Gays in the Military” and “To Support and Defend”</p>
<p>Benecke  describes military brass as “apoplectic” about Clinton’s campaign promise to lift the ban, once they suddenly realized he really wanted to fulfill it. Senator Sam Nunn would actually hide behind the idea of violence against gays, and Colin Powell would reportedly threaten to resign. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.doaskdotell.com/movies/vgaymil.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.doaskdotell.com/movies/vgaymil.htm</a></p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<blockquote><p>
Collin Powell<br />
The US secretary of state dislikes military intervention because he has problems understanding the world<br />
Lawrence F Kaplan</p>
<p>recounts Edward Luttwak, &#8220;Powell overruled the newly inaugurated Clinton with contemptuous ease.&#8221; In at least one instance-the 1993 dust-up over gays in the military-Powell skirted the edge of insubordination. Exploiting Clinton&#8217;s weakness vis-à-vis the armed forces, Powell went public with his opposition to the plan to integrate homosexuals into the military, letting it be known that he might resign over the issue and humiliating Clinton into negotiating with-and all but surrendering to-his own military chiefs.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=3392" rel="nofollow">http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=3392</a>  </p>
<p>It was Collin Powell who led the charge blocking the doors of the military, Civil Rights, and Human Rights of men and women who were serving their country.  These men and women had served honorably and bravely and he stood like a bully blocking their Civil Rights, not with a cogent argument (there was none), but threatening to undermine the Commander and Chief, the President of the United States, by throwing a tantrum and threatening to quit.  A few months later, he retired, after having acted against the Commander and Chief, President Bill Clinton. </p>
<blockquote><p>Colin Powell, Who Led U.S. Military Into a New Era, Resigns<br />
By ERIC SCHMITT,<br />
Published: Friday, October 1, 1993</p>
<p>In a farewell ceremony today on the parade grounds of Fort Myer, Va., bands played, flags flapped in a blustery fall breeze and fighter jets soared in salute to a soldier who President Clinton said symbolized &#8220;a victory for the American dream, for the principle that in our nation, people can rise as far as their talent, their capacity, their dreams and their discipline will carry them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/01/us/colin-powell-who-led-us-military-into-a-new-era-resigns.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/C/Clinton,%20Bill" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/01/us/colin-powell-who-led-us-military-into-a-new-era-resigns.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/C/Clinton,%20Bill</a></p>
<p>So, he left most pleased with himself (having gotten what he wanted, while threatening to leave) and today others would have you believe that he has changed his position, but if you listen closely to his words, he never says what he did was wrong or that he regrets the harm it has caused so many (thousands) soldiers.</p>
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