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Clintonomics Endorsed by Republicans!

"Clintonomics: How Bill Clinton Reengineered the Reagan Revolution" by Jack Godwin Ph.D.

"Clintonomics: How Bill Clinton Reengineered the Reagan Revolution" by Jack Godwin Ph.D.

Bob Dylan was right on target back in the early 1960s: The times, they are a-changin’.

Those of us who were politically savvy in the 1990s knew that President Bill Clinton was a shrewd politician, and a great leader as president. He’s still revered by most moderate Democrats, although his image has been tarnished by partisan attacks. But maybe not so much as you might think.

On May 1, 2009, Christopher Ruddy, the Editor in Chief of Newsmax.com, a website devoted to conservative Republican issues, completely blew my socks off by publishing an article with the title “Obama Needs Clintonomics – and Soon.”

He opened with this comment:

CIA Director Leon Panetta has some urgent advice for President Obama: Read “Clintonomics” and use it!

Panetta’s advice is no secret. He is referring to a new book just out, “Clintonomics: How Bill Clinton Reengineered the Reagan Revolution,” (AMACOM) by Dr. Jack Godwin, a political scientist.


Ruddy’s piece is basically a book review, adding his political editorializing. Herewith is my review of his review. Feel free to review my review of his review.

The “vast right wing conspiracy” that Hillary blamed for the political persecution of the Clintons was quite real, and some Republicans have admitted openly that is was so. The Republicans of the 1990s hated the Clintons, and most still do. That’s one of the reasons why I can never embrace the Republican Party, no matter how much the current Democratic Party sickens and frightens me, for reasons any reader of NQ knows all too well.

This is not to say that I hate Republicans, nor what they stand for. Many Republicans are good people with good intentions, just like normal people. I think the Republicans are absolutely necessary to forestall the creeping Socialism of the Democrats, just as the liberal Democrats are necessary to keep Republican authoritarianism in check.

But sometimes the streams merge, with exciting effect.

Check out Ruddy’s fascinating take on Bill Clinton’s economics [emphasis mine]:

Here’s what Panetta said about “Clintonomics”: “This book is a must read for those struggling to figure out the present economic crisis.”

As we all know, Obama is one of those struggling.

Before Panetta assumed his CIA post, he had served as President Bill Clinton’s chief of staff. Panetta is a pragmatic man, not an ideologue.

So his praise for this new book should come as no surprise.

But what is surprising is that, as a Republican of the Reagan type, I couldn’t agree more with Panetta’s assessment.

OMG! I could hardly believe my eyes! Conservative Republican Newsmax.com promoting Bill Clinton’s economic policies! I had to put my head between my knees to keep from fainting! That’s when I noticed my socks were gone.

Christoper Ruddy continues:

Author Godwin’s basic point is that, contrary to widely held opinion, Clinton did not seek to turn back the economic policies of Ronald Reagan, dubbed “Reaganomics.” Instead, he embraced them and perfected them.

Godwin’s point of view is even more interesting because the foreword to the book is written by John Garamendi, who served in the Clinton administration as deputy secretary of the Department of Interior.

When Clinton came to office in 1993, the economy was in a downturn.

“Clinton attributed the country’s less than optimum economic performance to low productivity, low growth, stagnant wages, unemployment, budget deficits, and high healthcare costs, among other things,” Godwin observes.

“He outlined the essential components of his economic plan: shifting our emphasis from consumption to investment; making public policy friendlier to workers and families; reducing the federal deficit and cutting government waste; reforming the tax code; and, of course, creating jobs.”

Clinton, in short, sought to put a happy face on Reaganomics. [Godwin points out that Reagan himself disliked the characterization that it sounded like an “aerobic exercise or fad diet.”]

OK, now that made me laugh! Reagan did have a good sense of humor, I’ll give him that.

But now we see the author of this article is starting to give President Bill Clinton some of the respect he deserved as the steward of our economy.

He goes on to say:

Reagan strongly believed that “government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” Though Clinton did not agree with that view, he did believe that government needed to be both improved and downsized.

Both Clinton and Reagan grasped the notion that the private sector, not the public one, is the primary productive engine of the economy.

Thus Clinton offered a “New Covenant,” which Godwin writes “was indeed based on an old idea — the idea that with opportunity comes responsibility. Clinton wanted to create a leaner, not meaner government . . . In practice, this meant downsizing the federal government, cutting unnecessary and wasteful spending, and bringing down the deficit.”

I can hear the Gipper applauding Clinton’s sentiment.

And I can hear a million Republicans gasping! “Sacrilege!!” they scream as they fall to the floor, rending their garments and gnashing their teeth in anguish!

This is one courageous Republican writing here! He must have Titanium balls! And I’m not talking walnuts here, I’m talking zeppelins!

As the Republican ideologues writhe in partisan apoplexy, Ruddy twists the knife deeper:

Clinton is even quoted as saying that he was “the man who downsized the government more than President Reagan did.” This is true.

Democrats have long complained that Reagan gave us huge budget deficits and grew the national debt dramatically.

This also is true.

Some on the left even saw a conspiratorial overtone to the Reagan deficits. Reagan ran up huge deficits to prevent the Democrats from funding new entitlement programs, so the theory went.

Although Reagan did run up the national debt wildly, it had nothing to do with entitlements. Reagan repeatedly stated, before and after his election in 1980, that he would opt for large deficits if he needed them to bankroll his military buildup to counter the Soviet Union.

Indeed, Reagan’s plan worked. The massive military buildup not only helped defeat the Soviet empire but also left the U.S. a sizable “peace dividend” in the 90s.

Ronald Reagan set the stage for Bill Clinton. Clinton’s brilliance was in realizing the gift he had received from the Reagan years. He easily could have moved to shift the “peace dividend” from declining defense expenditures to social programs. But he didn’t.

Instead, he reduced the growth of government, ultimately leaving his successor, George W. Bush, a budget surplus.

“A budget surplus.” Wow! What was that like? Surplus! To quote Bob Dylan again, from the song My Back Pages, “I spoke the word as if a wedding vow. Ah, but I was so much older then. I’m younger than that now.”

These words have mystified many listeners over the years, but put simply, Dylan was trying to convey that he had grown up, abandoning the arrogance of know-it-all youth. With maturity, he gained the humility of knowing that he didn’t know it all as a student and was now embarrassed by his youthful idealism. I can definitely relate to that, as a formal liberal who is now a staunch Centrist.

To paraphrase: I was so much more arrogant then, I’m humbler than that now.

How little we, as a nation, appreciated the incredible economic gift bestowed upon us by Clintonomics. The national deficit run up under Reagan, then more so by G.H.W. Bush, was the highest the country had ever seen at that point. Bill Clinton came into office, and eight years later, the deficit was turned into a surplus. Eight years after Bush II, the deficit was the worst in history. But that’s nothing compared to what Obama has managed in a little over 100 days.

I’m reminded of Groucho Marx as President Rufus T. Firefly in Duck Soup, as he sang about the plans for his administration.

“The last man nearly ruined this place
He didn’t know what to do with it
If you think this country’s bad off now
Just wait till I get through with it.

The country’s taxes must be fixed
And I know what to do with it.
If you think you’re paying too much now,
Just wait till I get through with it.”

As much as I love digressing, I’ll now force myself back on topic, and back to this wonderful piece of editorializing, allowing Newsmax Editor Christopher Ruddy to finish his thought-provoking article in its entirety:

When Clinton came into office, he tinkered with nationalizing healthcare with the so-called “Hillarycare” program. But Congress thwarted his plans.

It was the best thing that ever happened to Clinton.

Well, one little interjection here. I know some of you will be seething at this remark, but please, allow yourself to admit that the time, 1993, wasn’t right yet for such a sweeping change, as much as we all support Hillary’s healthcare reform ideas. Now, with the wisdom of maturity, many of us realize that a national health program may never be right for America, but that we still support reforms that will ensure proper medical treatment for all, without driving families to bankruptcy.

I speak for myself only. And those that agree with me. You know, the majority!

And now I’ll let the man finish:

After the healthcare debacle, he moved to the center. He adopted a bipartisan approach and even worked with Newt Gingrich in some areas, including welfare reform and cutting the capital gains tax.

“Bill Clinton launched his campaign to end welfare as we know it because he . . . believed millions of people were trapped in the system,” Godwin notes.

“When Clinton signed welfare reform legislation in 1996, he passed the greatest test of federalism, according to the standard set by Ronald Reagan himself.”

Clinton argued that entitlement programs do not work if the government does not require something in return from the recipient. He often referred to “the politics of entitlement” as a way of criticizing his own party.

“Some, but not all, in the national Democratic Party have placed too much faith in the whole politics of entitlement, the idea that big bureaucracies and government spending, demanding nothing in return, can produce the results we want,” he said in a speech.

“We know that is simply not true. There is a limit to how much government can do in the absence of an appropriate response by the American people at the grass-roots level.”

Clinton’s approach is starkly different from President Obama’s. With strong majorities in the House and the Senate, Obama has brushed aside a bipartisan approach. And unlike Clinton, he clearly favors the public sector over the private sector in restoring economic growth.

As Godwin says, Clinton’s governing philosophy was the logical corollary to the Reagan Revolution, stressing fiscal discipline and the end of big government.

“In public, Clinton positioned his governing philosophy as the antidote to Reaganomics,” Godwin writes. “In fact, Clinton and Reagan are fellow travelers separated more by party affiliation than political ideology.”

Barack Obama does have something to learn from Bill Clinton and “Clintonomics.”

Many Republicans have been reevaluating the Clinton years and realizing, as I have, that the country prospered under a more centrist approach. Obama should take the advice of his CIA director.

I’m staring at this revelation, slack-jawed in awe! Read that last paragraph again while I catch my breath!

Is it possible that even conservative Republicans now appreciate Bill Clinton’s policies? Have they now, like Dylan 44 years ago, realized that the times they are a-changin’? Have they come to realize that they were so much more arrogant then, but they’re humbler than that now?

I, for one, applaud this fresh outlook with enthusiastic optimism. Let’s hope it’s contagious! That would be one pandemic I could look forward to spreading!

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Comment by pm317 | 2009-05-11 13:17:46

Good post, Steve. The Dem primaries just showed everyone including the Repubs how good they had it during Clinton years (except of course for the 0bots).

Comment by Tom Cat "wodie j" Jefferson Esq | 2009-05-11 13:41:37

that’s because the Obots have been stuck in a perpetual world of Cheetos and American Idol

 

Comment by Steve_in_KC | 2009-05-11 13:55:18

Thanks, pm. I suspect that many of the “nouveau riche” who lost their portfolios recently got rich in the first place during the Clinton administration.

Perhaps they thought that by voting for the Democrat this last election, that would bring prosperity once again. If so, I believe they bet on the wrong horse… in the primaries.

 
 

Comment by Tom Cat "wodie j" Jefferson Esq | 2009-05-11 13:18:19

I felt Clintons economic policy was successful. To credit Reagan as well, is what bipartisan is. I am not suprised (or should I be?) that some Republicans gave Clinton credit. Clinton was moderate as I feel all of our leaders should be. When they go too far in either direction, it becomes extreme and radical. It begins to benefit one portion of society more than the other.

Comment by Mary Kay | 2009-05-12 12:22:32

Exactly. George W. Bush wasn’t a Republican – He was a neo-con. Obama isn’t a Democrat – He is a Progressive. I think there are centrist views in both the Republican and Democratic party. In fact, I think most people – at least the ones that I know – are somewhere to the middle – slightly right or slightly left. We respect diversity and we agree to disagree at times, but when we get into this far right or far left philosophy, all we get is more debt, bigger goverment (or less control of our lives), and bitter hatred. As someone who considered herself left-of-middle most of my life, I am looking downright conservative now. I won’t attack anyone on their belief system, and I think we’ve gone from one extreme to the other in this country.

I wish we could bring Bill back.

Comment by stodgie | 2009-05-12 12:29:05

mary kay, i don’t agree that obama is a progressive. i see him as regressive ie back to the 1960s far left. look at his friends and associations. i too am moving back to conservative from thinking of myself as liberal.

 
 
 

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-11 13:18:28

So, now we are all embracing “compassionate conservatism”. Well, to be fair… Obama did bring about change. Not the change he wanted, but change we can believe in. I will say it again, the broad center has been effectively unrepresented by the past two administrations. Just show the broad center some respect and the White House is yours. Trouble is, neither of the “parties” can do that even if they wanted to. We will either see a third party soon, or face epic failure.

Comment by Betsy Buzz Ross Latte | 2009-05-11 13:30:50

It would appear that Obama has brought about a rise in moderates from both parties.

Hopefully, this rise will stop any plans to socialize the nation.

 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-05-11 13:27:49

I remember during the primaries, Hillary asking:

“What didn’t you like about the Clinton years: the peace or the prosperity?”

Many on the Left and Right poo-poohed that idea.

But now we have a diehard Republican praising Bill Clinton for the truly good job he did?

The world has turned inside out and upside down. Amazing!

Can we assume that some people are starting to wake up after a long and troubling sleep? I hope so.

Comment by Tom Cat "wodie j" Jefferson Esq | 2009-05-11 13:39:32

I believe the majority of Americans are down the middle and they are damn sick and tired of the “far” side of both parties.

Comment by stodgie | 2009-05-12 12:30:26

tom cat, i nominate your comment for top comment of the day. that is so true!

 
 
 

Comment by Betsy Buzz Ross Latte | 2009-05-11 13:44:50

If Obama has done anything, his s-election has brought Americans back to their centrist roots.

One term for him ought to be on par as we are through the looking glass when the GOP looks fondly upon all the good of the Clinton administration.

Actually to answer Hillary’s question.

We MISS the peace AND the prosperity.

 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-05-11 13:45:06

Btw, anyone still dreaming that Obamanomics is or will work ought to read Karl Denninger’s blog:

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

This morning’s entry: “The Economic Tsunami is Curling Over” makes me want to run for ‘dem dar hills.’

We are so screwed!

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-11 13:52:04

Government spending has sucked the capital life force out of the economy. Business that would take the chance to expand right now can’t get any funding to do so. It is death of capitalism by oxygen deprivation as it were… money being the oxygen to a capitalistic system.

Comment by Seattle Moss | 2009-05-11 13:58:32

Nobody wants to take a chance on risk since Obama is changing the rules.
Investors…You’re in the back of the line!

Do I need to say it again

Self Fulfilling Prophesy!
If you run on class warfare like a Lenin you get a collapsed economy.

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-11 17:27:59

Hey Seattle, If BHO had a platform, then class warfare would surely be at the crux of it.

 
 

Comment by andrew 191 | 2009-05-11 14:46:04

Business is wary of the uncertain future, that’s to be expected. But what is really going to sink capitalism is the insane quadrupling of the deficit to payback all of the 0bama supporters. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that massive inflation is on the way (government will merely print money to pay back the loans). Inflation favors the debtor and punishes the investor. While banks are being bailed out (with money that our government has to borrow) so that they will ideally be more generous with loans, the whole nature of the set-up is naturally having the reverse effect; loans will be tougher to get. What intelligent banker will approve a loan of $300,000 today, for a thirty year mortgage, when in a year or two, $300,000 won’t buy a used car? It was the government created inflated value of houses, and the CRA mandated foolish loans for them, that triggered this economic dissaster, and now they are attempting to set up a similar scenario on a more massive scale. When the new strategies fail, we’ll look fondly back to the current economy as the days of milk and honey.

 
 
 

Comment by Ani | 2009-05-11 13:45:17

Great post, Steve. Welcome back.

The Clintons did leave the country in better shape than they found it — it would be nice if the Republicans (and everyone else too young to know better) started to give them more credit for the same.

Comment by Steve_in_KC | 2009-05-11 14:02:15

Thank you, Ani!

I think the key phrase in your comment is “too young to know better.”

For those whose memory of political life started on 9/11/01, all they know are the lies they were told, first by the Republicans, then by Obama. They are still too young and naive to have a clue what the economic-political realities of the previous decade were like. Hell, most of them seemed to think Obama was running against Bush!

 
 

Comment by kenoshamarge | 2009-05-11 13:46:10

I suspect it took a supremely “bad’ Republican Administration followed by what looks to be an insane spending spree by a Democratic Administration to wake some people up.

Good post BTW.

 

Comment by IndayHill | 2009-05-11 14:09:25

Excellent post, Steve.
What a wishful thinking for us Americans, who were cheated of a fair and honest presidential election.Thanks to the American Idol style of “electing ” the POTUS, the Americans are deprived of the economy enjoyed during the Clinton years.But there is still “HOPE”.Hillary 2012 !

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-11 14:23:57

As a third party candidate maybe? I was hoping for that in 2008. Hillary was sacrificed for the sake of party. That only makes any logical sense to me if perhaps Bill could run again at some point in the future… which as of right now, he can’t.

 

Comment by foxyladi14 | 2009-05-11 18:24:02

 
 

Comment by IndayHill | 2009-05-11 15:14:32

May God give them good health and safety from evil.
Moreover, I ask God that I live to see either of the Clintons bring back prosperity and peace to this great nation I love so much.
And may God save America from more despair.

 

Comment by arran | 2009-05-11 17:06:10

Within a month of taking office, Obama had repealed President Clinton’s ‘96 Welfare Reform via the passing of the 2009 Stimulus Package. The link is below:

“Evidence Unearthed Obamas Plan All Along Was to Repeal Clinton 96 Welfare Reform” –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEhsjAcGayA

 

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-11 17:25:01

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

But, give a man just enough of his neighbors fish so that he is able to just survive on, but not enough to ever get ahead to do better for himself… and he will be indebted to vote for you for a lifetime. Blame his lack of fish on stinginess of his neighbor and he will never realize who his true enemy really is.

Comment by avwrobel | 2009-05-11 18:51:54

Sounds fishy

 

Comment by Tom Cat "wodiej" Jefferson Esq | 2009-05-11 20:11:12

well said!!

 
 

Comment by Lisabona | 2009-05-11 18:00:56

My biggest disappointment was, when Hillary gave up her rightful place to a cheater and a liar. I always will hold responsable all the Clinton haters, those who voted just for the color,the democrats who put the party first,before their Country. They voted for a person,with no any experience,who refuse,evan today,as president to tell the American people,WHO HE REALLY IS???? As , I read today in the “canadianfreepress.com, the GDP situation of Canada,Britain and USA.Canada debt, 53% of GDP,Britain’s 103%,US’s 122%. Thanks to those, who choose to remain blind and stupid, and still clap for the PONZI style economy in destruction of our life, our children’s life and grandchildren’s. Not to mention, our Country’s destruction for decades to come. I’m ferm convinsed, those who voted for 0bama, have not the slightest idea, the consequences of their doing, because they don’t read, the don’t know what is happening around them. They voted blindly and live blindly. THey just, don’t care about their Country, as far as the selected one is in the Throne.

Comment by Ellen D | 2009-05-11 18:29:40

Now why is it that you think I’d agree with this:

1993, wasn’t right yet for such a sweeping change, as much as we all support Hillary’s healthcare reform ideas. Now, with the wisdom of maturity, many of us realize that a national health program may never be right for America, but that we still support reforms that will ensure proper medical treatment for all, without driving families to bankruptcy.

If not then, when? Now? Obama has said that the Health Industry has grown to a point that you can’t reform it toward single payer. And don’t tell me that we can make other “reforms” which will accomplish what other countries did with single payer. The Health Industry in the U.S. is one of the giant leeches that is sucking this country dry until it kills its host.

Other countries have had the guts to do what is necessary. Do you think that Canada had no private health insurance before the government took over? Please, please, someone with guts, please take on Health Insurance and the Banks.

Comment by Steve_in_KC | 2009-05-12 22:32:22

I completely understand the point of view you expressed, Ellen D. I didn’t expect everyone to agree with that observation. But I have to stand by the statement that the time wasn’t right in 1993. The Republicans used “HillaryCare” to bludgeon the Democrats into a minority party in Congress for the next 15 years. Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America” gained a lot of converts from this attempt at universal health care, with Republicans calling it “Socialized Medicine,” as most of them still do.

As for the part about maybe it’ll never be right for America, that is just a gut feeling I have, resigning myself to how difficult this change in our whole capitalistic healthcare system will be. The costs are enormous, and I am afraid it will never pass now, due to the extreme deficit spending we are already committed to. I hope I’m wrong.

 
 
 

Comment by James Guglielmino | 2009-05-11 18:10:38

Bill Clinton was *potentially* a great leader. He badly misjudged his administration’s ability to get the nation national health care but that wasn’t his down fall. His downfall was the arrogance that resulted in his really stupid indiscretions. If he was so damn smart, he surely knew that the Republicans would take him apart given the chance. He ignored that for a few blow jobs. The rest is history. His second administration was crippled with his fight to avoid removal from office, a fight he came within an inch of losing. The fall out of that was the election of George Bush, a man so poorly equipped to be President that the idea of that happening would have been laughable EXCEPT that Clinton had turned do many people against him and that led to the Republicans winning. HE is responsible, therefore, for the debacle of the last eight years and that will forever be Bill Clinton’s legacy. Frankly, it brings tears of agony and anger to my eyes.

Comment by Betsy Buzz Ross Latte | 2009-05-11 18:42:44

So what’s the excuse for the debacle unfolding before us now? Bush’s legacy is socialism and Barack Obama?

I voted twice for Bill Clinton. He was a good president despite the likes of Newt Gingrich, the unholy religious right, Rush Limbaugh and a few Judas dem congress persons who are now just showing their true colors.

 

Comment by Steve_in_KC | 2009-05-11 18:47:55

Well, James, there are several points you make that are reasonably debatable, but I’m not in the mood to argue right this minute.

I will, however, take exception to your belief that Clinton begat Bush. Bush was a light-weight, to be sure, and not many took him seriously, but the Republicans fought hard for him. What got Bush elected, IMO, is more attributable to the natural ebb and flow, the rotation of parties through the White House. Clinton had 8 years, and many voters were ready for a change, regardless of Bill’s problems.

But what I believe really truly got Bush elected was Jeb Bush being governor of Florida, which as we all know was the deciding state.

But what REALLY kept Gore from winning was Gore. He was over-confident, smug, and arrogant about his intelligence, especially compared to Bush. Then he made a lousy choice of VP in Lieberman, who was selected solely because Gore was trying to distance himself from Clinton and Lieberman was one of the few Democrats to speak out against Clinton in the impeachment process. By trying to appease Democrats who were angry with Clinton, he lost a big chunk of loyal Democratic voters. Those who were pissed off at Bill were goint to vote for Bush anyway. Gore made the mistake of turning his back on Clinton, and that is what cost him the election.

He kind of screwed the pooch in the debate with Bush where he strode around the stage and at one point walked right up to Bush while W was answering a question. Bush knew it was coming, and didn’t get flustered. In fact, he scored big points with voters by calmly acknowledging Gore with a friendly “hello” and kept on answering the question. Gore looked like a fool, and Bush looked kind of cool at that moment. That was the final straw, in my opinion, that broke the back of Gore’s camel.

 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-05-11 20:54:48

James, I was never convinced GW won the election in 2000. I just watched a series called “Hacking Democracy,” which only further convinces me that the 2000 and 2004 elections were rigged to the hilt.

So, please. Save your Clinton analysis for another site. I go back to the Carter years, and Bill Clinton is the best President of my personal memory. Blow job or not.

And btw, anyone clinging to a JFK wet dream needs to look into the man’s personal history. He makes Bill Clinton look like an amatuer.

 

Comment by trixta | 2009-05-11 21:34:52

Uninformed commment, George G. The Supreme Court gave the 2000 presidency to Bush. And as for Gore, well, his campaign was run by none other than Donna Brazille, who has always hated the Clintons.

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-05-12 01:34:13

By your same arguement, Bush was responsible for the torture BO has sanctioned. OK you say he closed all the black op site etc down?

If you believe that, I have an “Under new management” sign to sell you.

I never knew so many Americans in positions of power could pass the buck so easily.

 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-05-12 12:34:05

james, you make some points but i think it is deeper than that. thanks to the media and a down graded education system, we have a poorly informed, eduated public who thinks in terms of “stars” for elections and not ability. we have the far righ and far left gaining an edge and exploiting for their benefit and not the american public.

 
 

Comment by foxyladi14 | 2009-05-11 18:28:08

i voted for Clinton twice.glad i did.he will go down
in history as one of the best.

 

Comment by avwrobel | 2009-05-11 18:56:13

2 things I believe worth mentioning:
Al Gore did a fantastic and completely unappreciated job as Vice-President. He was in charge of overseeing efforts to reduce government size while improving its delivery of services, which he did a fantastic job of because he had the complete support of Big Bill.
Also, the health care effort may have failed, but we need a floor on which to stand. Basic coverage for all must happen. A floor must be found.

 

Comment by Betsy Buzz Ross Latte | 2009-05-11 19:04:34

I voted for Bill Clinton, twice. The only two times I ever voted for the winning candidate. Yup, you guessed it. I was a democrat.

Bill and Al Gore did alot for this nation. Yet, the detractors will always be around to complain that his administration was weak here or there or he made too many enemies in Washington DC.

Perhaps the most important thing to remember is that he gave ALL americans a better life. Now, it’s anybody’s guess who is going to benefit from Obama – if there will be any benefits.

Comment by SYD | 2009-05-11 19:10:00

Same here. FINALLY I voted for the winner. Twice.

What a terrible shame that Mr. Obama felt it necessary to deride President Clinton’s contributions to our economic wellbeing. He made it a point, if you recall, to praise Reagan…. and ignore Bill.

Yes. I *WAS* a Democrat. Once upon a time.

No more.

Comment by Don | 2009-05-11 22:10:48

“Yes. I *WAS* a Democrat. Once upon a time.

No more.”

My sentiments exactly. I was a registered democrat from 1962 until May 31, 2008. Doubt that I will ever again be a member of any political party.

 
 
 

Comment by Jules | 2009-05-11 19:34:32

Hindsight changes your perspective. It is not a surprise to me whatsoever that Republicans now have a more favorable opinion of Clinton. Look at who we now have to compare him with! I would take Clinton ANY DAY over the current insane administration. I used to feel like Repubs and Democrats just had some basic differences of opinion, but we were all good. I wasn’t terrified for either party to be in charge. Now I’m terrified. I feel that the current democrats are truly trying to destroy America as fast as they possibly can. Now we are BEGGING for the old democrats. What happened to them??? PLEASE bring them back.

 

Comment by Lisabona | 2009-05-11 22:37:33

I agree with those ” Once Democrats”, me too, and never again. I voted twice for Bill Clinton and gladly supported Hillary, being certain, both of them will restore our economy. What a different perspective all of us, Americans, would have. This adm. is a curse.

 

Comment by politicalidentitycrisis | 2009-05-11 22:37:57

I really wanted Hillary and as I watch and have watched what has happened, I’ll admit it. I’m bitter.

I want a Clinton redux. Why in hell people did not want that and were willing to go with the current occupant in DC, I’ll never, ever understand!

Comment by candymarl | 2009-05-12 01:17:15

The rationale was that there would be a Clinton “dynasty” like a Bush “dynasty”.

That point of view disregarded the fact that the Bush’s came from a long line of money . Neither of the Clinton’s did.

Also it made the media, the wealthy and Hollywood, feel good that the person they backed got into the WH.

1984 is here. Personality worship and all.

Funny, how the so called liberals/progressives objected when “the rich” supported GWB. “The rich” on the other end of the political spectrum support Obama. Crickets.

 
 

Comment by VinceP | 2009-05-12 03:04:58

I”m a Conservative (former GOPer).

I was around 18 years old in 1992.

So let me speak from my point-of-view, I hope nothing I say comes off the wrong way.

What I remember from the start from the Clintons is hearing how Reaganomics had failed and how the Clinton were going to radically change course. I think that language was way stronger than what Bill’s actually governance ended up being. And the language was received as “Red alart: the good ideas of the 80s (tax moderation) is going to be undone”. I never considered deficit to be part of Reagan’s true economic plan, but something that the Dem Congress foisted on him in return for them giving the tax cuts and military restoration. Plus the recession of the early 80s due to the Fed strengthening the dollar really had a brutal short-term economic impact.

Now of course, the Republicans credit themselves with saving Bill from himself. I think that’s true. The competition wasn’t who could spend the most but who could be seen by the public as being the most prudent with the money. That ended up being a very good thing and wasn’t anticplated by anyone,. which I thikn is why , it’s only in hindsight that many people can appreciate it.

Obviously the GOP went off the rails in the 00s. Though I honestly believe that if the Dems had Congress throughout the 00s, the spending would have been even higher and because of the way the media is in this country, the issue would have been framed in a totally different way.

I dont believe National Health Care is right for America.

1 – The GOvt has no right to see our private medical records, not have the right to force us to conduct our business via them. Nor do they have hte rihgt to demand our financial transactions wiht doctors. If wiretapping is illegal then surely getting a prostate exam and keeping it private is too.

2 – There is no way to pay for it.

3 – There would be no increase in the resource supply. IE: There isn’t going to be a hospital building spree, THere arne’t going to be millions of new doctors

4 – By paying for all, you open the flood gates of customers (demand). With a skyrocketting of demand, and a static supply, prices skyrocket too.

5 – Rationing would be the only way to contain costs.

6 – Politics in this country sucks, and politics would be the method that this rationing would be done

7 – Destroys self-reliance that is at the heart of being an American

 

Comment by arran | 2009-05-12 16:27:06

Vince — Gee, I remember being 35 — had lots of energy and thought I knew it all.

Since it’s not a current topic, I have held back with my info on cap and trade, but 0bama might plan to fund universal healthcare and other new social spending with these tax increases. The hardest hit energy customers will be those living in the Southern, Plains, and Midwest states. The electric industry accounts for less than 40% of emission. I’m for clean energy, but its costs should be fairer.

Here’s the link:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123655590609066021.html

 

Comment by Jonny | 2009-05-13 01:22:53

VinceP, your points about universal health care are nonsensical. Remember we already have a government health care program -> Medicare. It works.

 

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