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Note to Nancy Pelosi: Colin Powell Got Snookered at CIA, too

Originally published at Op-Ed News with this message from Rob Kall, editor in chief:

I discussed this article with Ray McGovern and came away with this intro; We’re in a tough situation Ray McGovern says he’s never seen in his 40+ years of government service, The president of the United States and Leon Panetta are afraid of the CIA. Now, thanks to Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell’s chief of staff, we know a lot more about how Powell allowed himself to be snookered into helping Bush sell the war– and bad information acquired by torturing al-libi, who lied to evade further torture.

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Both snookered by the CIA?

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Think back six years.  How often did we hear then-Secretary of State Colin Powell tout his intense four-day vigil at CIA headquarters preparing the speech he would give to the United Nations Security Council on Feb. 5, 2003?  Retired Army Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell’s chief of staff, who was asked by Powell to herd cats in putting that speech together, recently threw light on why it turned out to be such an acute embarrassment. 

Surrogates of Vice President Dick Cheney were insisting on giving prominence to highly dubious reports of operational ties between al-Qaeda and Iraq, but on this particular issue (unlike the phantom WMD) CIA and State department intelligence analysts had stood firm in the face of heavy pressure.

  Indeed, the CIA ombudsman saw fit to tell Congress that never in his 32 years as a CIA analyst had he witnessed a more aggressive “hammering” on analysts to change their minds and give credence to reporting that was trash. 

How was it, then, that Secretary Powell ended up citing a “sinister nexus between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist network” to depict a relationship that did not exist?  Fair labeling: Reading what follows may not make you quite as ill as reading the Department of Justice torture memos, but it may well sicken—and anger—you just the same. 

According to Col. Wilkerson, just days before trying to sell the invasion of Iraq to the United Nations, his boss Colin Powell had decided not to regurgitate the dubious allegations about Saddam Hussein’s ties to al-Qaeda.  Just in the nick of time, however, top CIA officials produced a “bombshell” report alleging such ties.  The information was more than a year old and apparently extricated via torture, but Powell took the bait. 

Wilkerson says the key moment occurred on Feb. 1, 2003, as the two men labored at the CIA over Powell’s presentation to the U.N. Security Council four days later. 

“Powell and I had a one-on-one — no one else even in the room — about his angst over what was a rather dull recounting of several old stories about Al Qa’ida-Baghdad ties [in the draft speech],” Wilkerson said. “I agreed with him that what we had was bull___t, and Powell decided to eliminate all mention of terrorist contacts between AQ and Baghdad. 

“Within an hour, [CIA Director George] Tenet and [CIA Deputy Director John] McLaughlin dropped a bombshell on the table in the director’s conference room: a high-level AQ detainee had just revealed under interrogation substantive contacts between AQ and Baghdad, including Iraqis training AQ operatives in the use of chemical and biological weapons.” 


Snookerer and Snookeree

Although Tenet and McLaughlin wouldn’t give Powell the identity of the al-Qaeda source, Wilkerson said he now understands that it was Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, who had been captured 15 months earlier; who later claimed he gave the CIA false information in the face of actual and threatened torture; and who now seems to be quite dead. 

Presumably not realizing that the “new” intelligence was tainted, “Powell changed his mind and this information was included in his UNSC presentation, along with more general information from a previous draft about Baghdad's terrorist tendencies,” Wilkerson said. 

Wilkerson’s account provides insight into how the need to justify war gave impetus to the use of torture for extracting information, and how the Bush administration’s reliance on harsh interrogations of al-Qaeda suspects helped grease the skids to war.  Both. 

Sealing the Deal 

Powell, whose credibility essentially sealed the deal for war as far as millions of Americans were concerned, let himself be manipulated by senior CIA officials who kept him in the dark about crucial details, including the fact that the Defense Intelligence Agency had thrown serious doubt on al-Libi’s credibility.  Wilkerson told me: 

“As you can see, nowhere were we told that the high-level AQ operative had a name, or that he had been interrogated [in Egypt] with no US personnel present or much earlier rather than just recently (the clear implication of Tenet's breathtaking delivery). 

“And not a single dissent was mentioned (later we learned of the DIA dissent) … All of this was hidden from us – the specific identity, we were informed, due to the desire to protect sources and methods as well as a cooperative foreign intelligence service…. 

“As for me in particular, I learned the identity of al-Libi only in 2004 and of the DIA dissent about the same time, of al-Libi's recanting slightly later, and of the entire affair's probably being a Tenet-McLaughlin fabrication – to at least a certain extent – only after I began to put some things together and to receive reinforcement of the ‘fabrication’ theme from other examples.” 

Among those other examples, Wilkerson said, was the case of the Iraqi defector codenamed Curveball, who supplied false intelligence about mobile labs for making biological and chemical weapons, and various Iraqi walk-ins who spun bogus stories about an Iraqi nuclear weapons program. 

Though some of those sources appear to have concocted their tales after being recruited by the pro-invasion exiles of the Iraqi National Congress, al-Libi told his stories—he later claimed—to avoid or stop torture.  This is a central point in the current debate about why torture was used and whether it saved American lives. 

Torture Can Produce 

For those of you distracted by the Fawning Corporate Media (FCM) spotlight on “what-did-Pelosi-know-about-torture-and-when-did-she- know-it,” please turn off the TV long enough to ponder the case of the recently departed al-Libi.  According to a Libyan newspaper, al-Libi has died in a Libyan prison, a purported suicide. 

The al-Libi case might help you understand why, even though information from torture is notoriously unreliable, President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and the me-too officials running U.S. intelligence ordered it anyway. 

In short, if it is untruthful information you are after, torture can work just fine! As the distinguished Senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham put it during a Senate hearing on May 13—with a hat-tip to the Inquisition—“One of the reasons these techniques have been used for about 500 years is that they work.” 

All you really need to know is what you want the victims to “confess” to and then torture them, or render them abroad to “friendly” intelligence services toward the same end. 

Poster Child for Torture 

Al-Libi, born in 1963 in Libya, ran an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan from 1995 to 2000. He was detained in Pakistan on Nov. 11, 2001, and then sent to a U.S. detention facility in Kandahar, Afghanistan. He was deemed a prize catch, since it was thought that he might know of, or at least be induced to “confess” to, Iraqi training of al-Qaeda. 

The CIA successfully fought off the FBI for first rights to interrogate al-Libi. FBI's Dan Coleman, who “lost” al-Libi to the CIA (at whose orders, I wonder?), said, "Administration officials were always pushing us to come up with links" between Iraq and al-Qaeda. 

Meanwhile, at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, Maj. Paul Burney, a psychiatrist sent there in summer 2002, says, "A large part of that time we were focused on trying to establish a link between al-Qaeda and Iraq, and we were not successful,” according to Burney’s recent testimony to the Senate.  Burney added: 

“The more frustrated people got in not being able to establish that link…there was more and more pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results." 

CIA interrogators elicited some “cooperation” from al-Libi through a combination of rough treatment and threats that he would be turned over to Egyptian intelligence with even greater experience in the torture business. 

By June 2002, al-Libi had told the CIA that Iraq had “provided” unspecified chemical and biological weapons training for two al-Qaeda operatives, an allegation that soon found its way into other U.S. intelligence reports. Al-Libi’s claim was well received even though the DIA was highly suspicious. 

Serious Misgivings 

“He lacks specific details” about the supposed training, DIA observed. “It is possible he does not know any further details; it is more likely this individual is intentionally misleading the debriefers. Ibn al-Shaykh has been undergoing debriefs for several weeks and may be describing scenarios to the debriefers that he knows will retain their interest.” 

Despite his cooperation, al-Libi was still shipped to Egypt where he underwent more abuse, according to a declassified CIA cable from 2004; the year al-Libi recanted his earlier statements. The cable reported that al-Libi said Egyptian interrogators wanted information about al-Qaeda’s connections with Iraq, a subject “about which [al-Libi] said he knew nothing and had difficulty even coming up with a story.”  (This, despite the limited “success” CIA interrogators claimed to have had on this issue.) 

According to the CIA cable, al-Libi said his interrogators did not like his responses and “placed him in a small box” for about 17 hours. After he was let out of the box, al-Libi was given a last chance to “tell the truth.” 

When his answers still did not satisfy, al-Libi says he “was knocked over with an arm thrust across his chest and fell on his back” and then was “punched for 15 minutes.” 

And, sure enough, as Sen. Lindsay Graham has noted, this stuff really works! For it was then that al-Libi expanded on his tales about collaboration between al-Qaeda and Iraq, adding that three al-Qaeda operatives had gone to Iraq “to learn about nuclear weapons.”  Al-Libi added that the treatment he received improved after he told that to his interrogators. 

In any case, al-Libi’s stories apparently were music to the ears of Colin Powell, who was under pressure to establish in his U.N. speech some evidence of a “sinister nexus” between Iraq and al-Qaeda—the “axis-of-evil” kind of epithet he ended up using to try to justify invading Iraq. 

Al-Libi recanted his claims in January 2004. This prompted the CIA, a month later, to recall all intelligence reports based on his statements, a fact recorded in a footnote to the report issued by the 9/11 Commission.  But he was really a big help before he recanted! 

Just What the Doctor Ordered 

George Bush relied on al-Libi’s false confession for his crucial speech in Cincinnati on Oct.  7, 2002, just a few days before Congress voted on the Iraq War resolution. Bush declared, "We’ve learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb making and poisons and deadly gases." 

Colin Powell relied on it for his own speech to the U.N. on Feb. 5, 2003:  "I can trace the story of a senior terrorist operative telling how Iraq provided training in these [chemical and biological] weapons to al-Qaeda. Fortunately, this operative is now detained, and he has told his story." 

Bear in mind that before the attack on Iraq on March 19, 2003, polls showed that some 70 percent Americans believed that Saddam Hussein had operational ties with al-Qaeda and thus was partly responsible for the attacks of 9/11.  Worse still, about half of the American people had been led to believe that Saddam was actually involved in 9/11. 

For a while, al-Libi was practically the poster boy for the success of the Cheney/Bush torture regime; that is, at least until it was learned that he recanted, explaining that he only told his interrogators what he thought would stop the torture. 

In his disingenuous memoir, At the Center of the Storm, George Tenet sought to defend the CIA's acceptance of the original claims made by al-Libi in the run-up to the Iraq war.  Tenet even suggested that al-Libi may have been right the first time—that it may have been his subsequent recantation that was not genuine. 

"He clearly lied," Tenet wrote. "We just don't know when. Did he lie when he first said that Al Qaeda members received training in Iraq or did he lie when he said they did not? In my mind, either case might still be true." 

I am not making this up.  That incisive analysis appears on page 353 of Tenet’s book. 

Tenet, of course, is hardly a disinterested observer. If there was a CIA plan to extract a false confession, it's likely he was a key participant.  After all, he devoted 2002-03 to the mission of manufacturing a "slam-dunk" WMD-case for invading Iraq, in order to please his bosses. He had both the motive and the opportunity to commit this crime and, later, huge incentive to cover it up. 

Al-Libi “Commits Suicide” 

If al-Libi is now dead — strangely our embassy in Tripoli has been unable to find out for sure — this means the world will never hear his own account of the torture he experienced and the story he made up and then recanted.  And we have already been asked to believe he “committed suicide” even though al-Libi apparently was a devout Muslim, and Islam prohibits suicide. 

Hafed al-Ghwell, a Libyan-American and a prominent critic of the Gaddafi regime, explained to Newsweek, “This idea of committing suicide in your prison cell is an old story in Libya.”  He added that, throughout Gaddafi’s 40-year rule, there have been several instances in which political prisoners were reported to have committed suicide, but that “then the families get the bodies back and discover the prisoners had been shot in the back or tortured to death.” 

Am I suggesting…? 

Anatomy of a Crime 

Commenting on what he called the “Cheney interrogation techniques,” Col. Wilkerson, writing for The Washington Note on May 13, made the following points: 

“…as the administration authorized harsh interrogation in April and May of 2002 — well before the Justice Department had rendered any legal opinion — its principal priority for intelligence was not aimed at pre-empting another terrorist attack on the U.S. but on discovering a smoking gun linking Iraq to al-Qaeda. 

“So furious was this effort on one particular detainee, even when the interrogation team had reported to Cheney’s office that their detainee ‘was compliant’ (meaning the team recommended no more torture), the VP’s office ordered them to continue the enhanced methods. The detainee had not revealed any al-Qa’ida-Baghdad contacts yet. 

“As far as al-Libi is concerned, his harsh interrogation ceased after, under waterboarding in Egypt, he ‘revealed’ such contacts. Of course later we learned that al-Libi revealed these contacts only to get the torture to stop.” 

Cheney Family Honor 

Stung by Wilkerson’s criticism of her father, Liz Cheney, who worked in the State Department during the Bush/Cheney administration, lashed out publicly at Wilkerson on Sunday, charging he has made “a cottage industry out of fantasies” about the former Vice President.  All that Ms. Cheney could manage in support of her contention was to point out that al-Libi was not among the three al-Qaeda detainees the CIA has said it waterboarded. 

After his article in The Washington Note, I asked Col. Wilkerson for a retrospective look at how it could have been that the torture-derived information from al-Libi was not recognized for what it was and thus kept out of Secretary Powell’s speech at the UN. 

Since al-Libi had been captured over a year before the speech and had been put at the tender mercies of the Egyptian intelligence service, should he and Powell not have suspected that al-Libi had been tortured? 

Wilkerson responded by e-mail with the comments cited above regarding Tenet and McLaughlin interrupting Powell’s evaluation of the Iraqi WMD intelligence with their new —just trust us—“bombshell.” 

I asked Col. Wilkerson:  “Were there no others from the State Department with you at CIA headquarters on Feb. 1, 2003. Was the Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), State’s very professional, incorruptible intelligence unit, not represented? He answered: 

“When I gathered ‘my team’ – some were selected for me, such as Will Toby from Bob Joseph's NSC staff and John Hanna from the VP's office – in my office at State to give them an initial briefing and marching orders, I asked Carl [Ford, then head of INR] to attend.  I wanted Carl – or even more so, one of his deputies whom I knew well and trusted completely, Tom Fingar – to be on ‘my team’. 

“Carl stayed after the meeting and I asked him straightforwardly to come with me or to send someone from INR. Carl said that he did not need to come or to send anyone because he had the Secretary's ear (he was right on that) and could weigh in at any time he wanted to. 

“Moreover, he told me, the Secretary knew very well where INR stood, as did I myself (he was right on that too). 

“As I look back, I believe one of my gravest errors was in not insisting that INR send someone with me. 

“Fascinating and completely puzzling at first was the total absence of a Department of Defense representative on my team; however, after 3-4 days and nights I figured out … DoD was covering its own butt, to an extent, by having no direct fingerprints on the affair — and being directly wired into Cheney’s office, Rumsfeld’s folks knew they were protected by Toby and Hanna. 

“When we all arrived at CIA, we were given the NIC [National Intelligence Council] spaces and staff. [But] I could not even get on a computer!! Protests to Tenet and McLaughlin got me perfunctory CIA-blah blah about security clearances, etc. — and me with 7 days and nights to prepare a monumentally important presentation! … 

“[It took] 24 hours before George or John acknowledged I could be on a computer…. From there on, it was a madhouse. 

“But at the end of the day, had I had an INR rep, had I had better support, had I been more concerned with WHAT I was assembling rather than HOW on earth I would assemble it and present it on time, I'm not sure at all it would have made any difference in the march to war.” 

Not the Only Criminal Activity 

So there you have it folks, the anatomy of a crime — one of several such already on the record, with some of the same dramatis personae

Mention of Carl Ford and Tenet and McLaughlin remind me of another episode that has gone down in the annals of intelligence as almost equally contemptible. This one had to do with their furious attempt to prove there were mobile biological weapons labs of the kind Curveball had described. 

Remember, Tenet and McLaughlin had been warned about Curveball long before they let then-Secretary of State Powell shame himself, and the rest of us, by peddling Curveball’s wares at the U.N. Security Council on Feb. 5, 2003.  But the amateur attempts at deception did not stop there. After the war began, CIA intrepid analysts, still “leaning forward,” misrepresented a tractor-trailer found in Iraq outfitted with industrial equipment as one of the mobile bio-labs. 

On May 28, 2003, CIA analysts cooked up a fraudulent six-page report claiming that the trailer discovered earlier in May was proof they had been right about Iraq’s “bio-weapons labs.” 

They then performed what in Army parlance is called a “midnight requisition,” finding the only Defense Intelligence Agency analyst sympathetic to their position and getting him to provide DIA “coordination,” (which was almost immediately withdrawn by DIA). 

On May 29, President George W. Bush, visiting Poland, proudly announced on Polish TV, “We have found the weapons of mass destruction.” (For a contemporaneous debunking of the CIA-DIA report, see “America’s Matrix,” http://www.consortiumnews.com/2003/060103a.html

When the State Department's Intelligence and Research (INR) analysts realized that this was not some kind of Polish joke, they “went ballistic,” according to Carl Ford, who immediately warned Powell there was a very large problem.  Tenet, in turn, must have learned of this quickly, for he called Ford on the carpet, literally, the following day. No shrinking violet, Ford held his ground. He told Tenet and McLaughlin, “That report is one of the worst intelligence assessments I’ve ever read.” 

What seems clear is that Tenet and McLaughlin learned nothing from their decision just four months earlier to play fast and loose with intelligence—regardless of the risk of heavy embarrassment to the Secretary of State or, in this case, the President. 

“They Should Have Been Shot” 

This episode—and several like it—are described in Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War by Michael Isikoff and David Corn, who say that Ford is still angry over the fraudulent paper.  Ford told the authors: 

“It was clear that they [Tenet and McLaughlin] had been personally involved in the preparation of the [bio-weapons labs] report.  As it turned out, that analysis was unprofessional and even unethical. People did funny thing with the evidence…It wasn’t just that it was wrong. They lied…they should have been shot.” (Page 229) 

Small wonder Ford has remained angry—like Wilkerson.  It was all just too much.  Ford knew he had made a huge mistake in early Feb. 2003, by assuming that Colin Powell would face down the blandishments of Tenet, McLaughlin, and the White House members of Wilkerson’s team. 

The way these things normally work, it was not unreasonable for Ford to assume further that he would have the opportunity, in extremis, to trade on his credibility with, and entrée to, Secretary Powell to thwart the CIA seniors, if they peddled their meretricious wares at CIA headquarters. 

In the end, Powell went along; Col. Wilkerson was left to twist slowly in the wind, so to speak.  Bush, Cheney, and their courtiers prevailed and our country embarked on what the post-WWII Nuremberg Tribunal termed the “supreme international crime”—a war of aggression. 

Sad.  Very sad.  Criminal, I would say. 

A version of this article first appeared at Consortiumnews.com


Author’s Bio: Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was an Army infantry/intelligence officer and then a CIA analyst for 27 years, and is now on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

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Comment by john | 2009-05-20 16:51:46

WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE-billboards will soon be going up around the country:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98589

Comment by Billluv | 2009-05-20 20:11:50

keep up the nonsense and Obama is a lock for two terms

Comment by Betsy Buzz Ross Latte | 2009-05-20 22:32:19

HA,HA,HA.

32% dem 32% repub 34% independent.

It’s not going to be that easy..

 

Comment by Yeah Right | 2009-05-21 10:24:52

The issue of the birth certificate is not nonsense and the only way it is going away is if Obama simply provide his orginal birth certificate. It is only a matter of time until this issue begins to get serious MSM coverage. This issue can easily become a NON ISSUE if Obama will simply put up!

 
 
 

Comment by r2d2 | 2009-05-20 17:05:23

But don’t think that the Pelosi fiasco is about the CIA lies, though that’s what Nancy is selling. Nancy wants me to believe that she was an innocent person. No. Nancy should have asked questions. Nancy didn’t ask questions because she understood what Bush was doing and didn’t want to know more. As far as I’m concerned the Democrats and the GOP are as responsible for the lies, as the Bush administration. Powell went along because he’s a spineless politician that should have stayed in the military saying “yes”.

 

Comment by Texas Playwright | 2009-05-20 17:07:34

Wow. Just wow. Keep speaking up, brave Americans in and out of all branches of government. We want our country and our honor restored.

 

Comment by Cindy | 2009-05-20 17:28:55

Colin Powell wanted to be Bush’s waterboy, so that’s what he got. I don’t think he cared if the material was accurate or not.

 

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-20 17:55:23

Well, a little bit of a refresher on history helps keep these things in perspective. Things always look different when you look back on them. But look at them at the time they happened, and you gain perspective.

http://web.archive.org/web/20021214150842/www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page6141.asp

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-05-20 18:17:21

And still Colin kept his mouth shut.

 

Comment by foxyladi14 | 2009-05-20 18:26:30

that cleared it up for me..

Comment by stodgie | 2009-05-21 10:24:13

colin also supports obama today. how about that track record!

 
 

Comment by CG | 2009-05-20 18:26:56

Thank you Ray McGovern for the excellent piece!! Powell and Wilkerson were not the only ones who got snookered in this criminal endeavor. There is not a shred of decency or integrity in Cheney, he was a brute, despicable and vicious, and he exerted pressure on everyone, the CIA included, inspectors everyone, to produce the results, and approved the fabrication of so called evidence as well as put his lawyers to work to craft memos to defend his desire to permit the horrific enhanced interrogations. Cheney thought of everything, including the use of contractors. This is such outrageous abuse of power, the corruption enormous, completely criminal to the core. The charade has gone on long enough, its time for our lawmakers to recognize how unhealthy for our democracy it is to cloak and cover this up. By the way, I believed at the time the case that Colin Powell made at the UN was bogus but everyone scoffed at me in the hysteria of the day enabled by the media through Cheney surrogates. My instinct at the time was that there was a deliberate rush to make the case, and critics were silenced and threatened as being unpatriotic. Everyone was in fear to contradict Cheney so they kept silent, except those like Joe Wilson who went public, and look how that turned out. That is why I believe it is imperative to thoroughly expose the wrongdoing, lest we find ourselves in this situation again.

Comment by morris1030 | 2009-05-20 21:06:30

CG,
I will never forget the day I watched Powell at the UN and was totally convinced that he was committing a fraud. The rush to war was so apparent to me. And you are so correct in everything you say about Cheney and Fear. Cheney is a FearMeister, and he knows how efective Fear is as a foolproof path to control. Remember Hitler?

Everyone [including many of our uber Democrats] were afraid of Cheney and fearful of being labelled as unpatriotic. My God, what would the frightened voters do?

In fact Cheney’s strategy of ruthlessly promoting fear and enacting every illegal means to promote
his policies which the CIA obligingly helped him do, snookered some smart and courageous Democrats
& Republicans to believe his “intelligence”.

We really should expose this wrongdoing for our own health. Your points are so well taken, but I think the winds are not blowing for truth and transparency.
I hope I’m wrong.

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-05-20 23:06:32

everyone scoffed at me in the hysteria.

Imagine how Ambassador and Mrs Wilson, Mr. Wilkerson, Mr. Drumheller, and I dare say Ray McGovern and Mr. Johnson felt among many others , who had spoken out.

I always reflect on the image of Richard Clarke “running around with his hair on fire” but in reality it was NOT him that was a pyromaniac.

Ray McGovern is such a character. It is disturbing for many to be asked to “think back 6 years”. Like we have been engrossed in a game of Jumanji

“This will not be an easy mission, monkeys slow the expedition.”

 
 

Comment by J_Gocht | 2009-05-20 18:29:50

Say it ain’t so Jan…

Last night, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, who chairs the oversight subcommittee of the House intelligence committee, told MSNBC’s Ed Schultz…

A C.I.A. surveillance aircraft mistakenly identified the plane as a drug-smuggling aircraft, and a Peruvian military jet shot it down, killing an American missionary and her 7-month-old daughter. The Justice Department closed its investigation into the matter in 2005, declining to prosecute agency officers for any actions related to the episode…

And then this…

“Republican Rep. Hoekstra [a Pelosi antagonist, today] Accuses CIA Of Coverup”, CNN reported last November [2008]:

Rep. Pete Hoekstra on Thursday criticized “rogue” CIA employees involved in a joint CIA-Peruvian anti-narcotics program of withholding information after declassification of a CIA report identifying “routine disregard” of safety procedures that led to the plane being shot down…

http://www.truthout.org/052009L?n

 

Comment by tek | 2009-05-20 18:32:10

Colin Powell would be a better president than Obama.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2009-05-20 20:44:15

Powell is as dirty as any politician.

I have zero respect for him — he has a long history of cover-ups.

It serves him right that THIS mess will stick — while he got away with his cover-up earlier in his career.

Both 0zero and colin bowel are dirty.

The thing is we had the better/best candidate — Hillary Clinton — but she pees sitting down so that scares the hell out of the Democrat party.

 
 

Comment by Glennmcgahee | 2009-05-20 18:37:05

Why weren’t these poor innocent men who had been duped quiet as Valerie Plame was being vilified after Wilson’s exposure of the fraud of the false stories of Uranium and aluminum tubes from Niger. It seems that that episode has been easily overlooked as Powell and Wilkerson say “it wasn’t me, I was had”. We are supposed to be Americans, they are supposed to be Patriots and our servants who stand up for truth, justice, etc. How very easy now to try to go back and revisit history. Powell was out of his position by that time I believe, why keep quiet? Its time for a full accounting. How are we aure we’re not being led down another path right now?

Comment by morris1030 | 2009-05-20 20:46:27

Obama has just fed the Wilson’s to the sharks. He agrees they have “no case” in their currrent quest for justice. Their appeal has been turned down and Obama agrees with the decision.

I am still wondering how we can even question the idea that the CIA lies. Don’t we have any memories left?

Comment by ziggy | 2009-05-21 00:34:14

The CIA has to be held up as a paragon of virtue at the moment in order to justify righteous outrage over the Pelosi having called their truthfulness into question. The fact of the matter is that they have deliberately distorted the truth many times in the past–otherwise known as bearing false witness, or lying. (Refer to the article above.) There’s no reason to think they haven’t distorted the facts in Pelosi’s case.

Another fact is that many of the same people currently attacking Pelosi for audaciously suggesting the CIA’s statements about what she was told might be untrue have themselves accused the CIA of lying in the past. Consider this statement made about the CIA by none other than Newt Gingrich–one of Pelosi’s most vocal critics, who asserts anyone demeaning the CIA shouldn’t be Speaker of the House–in response to their 2007 Iran National Intelligence Estimate:

“[The NIE] is so professionally unworthy, so intellectually indefensible and so fundamentally misleading that it is damaging to our national security.

“The NIE appears to be a deliberate attempt to undermine the policies of President Bush by members of his own government by suggesting that Iran no longer poses a serious threat to U.S. national security because we apparently have credible reports that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003.”

Frickin’ hipocrit.

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-05-21 00:58:26

Ziggy, what if he was correct? Just sayin…

I really don’t know how he can say it, but on the outside chance he is, would you want to hear Nancy saying she was “informed but not briefed” unable to string a simple sentence together? Even if BO loaned her his TOTUS?

It wasamazing Bush trash his Intel community on National TV…so in that respect Nancy, Newt and Bush have something primal in common.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Diana | 2009-05-20 19:05:24

Aww the memory of Obama saying he gave a speech in 2002 based on the speech he heard Colin Powell give in 2003. Our dear president and his psychic abilities. We would have all known what Colin Powell was going to say if we’d just listened to Obama’s speech in 2002. Perhaps we could have even prevented much of what happened. But, alas many had to wait for him to re-create that speech in 2008…

I don’t believe for one minute any of them were snookered. If they didn’t bother to ask the questions that needed to be asked, they were incapable of doing the job entrusted to them. They needed/need to step down. Questions that were their responsibility to ask, instead of turning a blind eye to what they didn’t want to know.

To sit there with their mouths shut for 6 years then all of a sudden have this epiphany of how they were snookered is nonsense. Oh, and only after the current president releases information. It never dawned on them they were snookered before that. BS. Neither Powell nor Pelosi said a word before. Neither stood up in 2005 when McCain introduced a bill against torture. Not until they’re tied to it do they say a word, then it’s “We were snookered!” Yeah, Ok.

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-05-21 01:50:58

Aww the memory of Obama saying he gave a speech in 2002 based on the speech he heard Colin Powell give in 2003

Classic.

 
 

Comment by J_Gocht | 2009-05-20 19:15:17

Yes Doc,

“The Downing Street Memo’s”…!
Seeking the truth since May 13,2005…

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-20 22:20:27

Yes, but my link was from November 2002. 3-4 months before we went to war. That executive memo wasn’t produced by our CIA, Bush or Cheney. It is British. The Internet is full of truth. The Internet Archive still has a lot that has not been scrubbed. The truth is out there and in 2002, the truth was everybody “knew” Saddam had WMD’s. Perception is reality. Do we know more now? Sure we do. Hindsight is 20/20. But for Powell to say Bush made me do it… he is just playing the same politics that Pelosi is playing. Politics of convenience.

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2009-05-21 02:03:45

Perception is reality. For some.

Many a comrade says Powell should have resigned, but that he would be “leaving the troops” behind.

He was portrayed as a McAuther., when he told Bush the Bull in a Pottery Barn thing, he should have left the building ahead of Elvis.

 
 
 

Comment by Doc99 | 2009-05-20 19:41:16

Comment by Docelder | 2009-05-20 21:15:50

Isn’t that just a bit over the top for the guy who came up with the single bullet theory?

 
 

Comment by J_Gocht | 2009-05-20 19:52:37

A “Tip-O-the Hat” Doc Niner,Niner…

I foolishly didn’t address my reply appropriately to “Docelder” as was my intent.

The newest Democrat Senator appears to be coming in out of the cold…?

 

Comment by oowawa | 2009-05-20 20:04:54

Yes! It’s true that torture works, and even the threat of torture, if what you really want is a confirmation of a “fact” you have already decided upon, whether it is true or not. For example, if you are the Inquisition, and you want Galileo to confess himself to be in error and admit that the Earth is indeed stationary at the center of the universe, all you need to do is threaten torture. In 1633:

With a formal threat of torture, Galileo is examined by the Inquisition. The next day he is sentenced to prison at the pleasure of the Inqusition and to religious penances. . . . In a formal ceremony at a the church of Santa Maria Sopra Minerva, Galileo abjures his errors.

And so there is longstanding historical precedent that proves torture is a good way to validate fictional truth!

http://galileo.rice.edu/chron/galileo.html

 

Comment by J_Gocht | 2009-05-20 20:36:41

Lotsa fun here…!

An olde SEAL romances the babes concerning “torture”…?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/18/ventura-and-hasselbeck-de_n_204774.html

 

Comment by QUEENIE | 2009-05-21 01:28:19

Powell lied..he knew he lied and was snookered and he did nothing to even attempt to stop the war..in my book he is just as responsible as Bush and Ceheny for the deaths of our soldiers and thousands upon thousands if Iraqi’s..there is no grey area, and he can not today even attempt to rehabilitate himself in my book, or in the eyes of people all over the world.
It was known and in the media in the rest of the worl the so called intelligence he gtried to snow the world with that is was bullshit and all fake.

I was in London when he did that speech at the UN..it was immediately in the papers there that the intelligence was cooked up bullshit..in fact i have kept the articles in my files..

Powell is a damn liar! AND A MURDERER IN MY BOOK!

It was in European Media and press for a long time that the trucks were for weather Balloons, and yet Powell stayed silent to the American people and our soldiers who were being prepared to go to war..he is a lying sack of trash ( and I am being kind)

It was also in the European media and papers that the trucks were bought from the British by Saddam..did Powell even attempt to tell the American people the truth..hell no..he let soldiers go to war based on his own freaking lies and he knew it then and he damn well knows it now..that blood is on his hands and all the attempts of rehabbing his legacy is a damn joke!

I am going to post this in it’s entirety because the article may no longer exist:

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UK war dossier a sham, say experts
British ‘intelligence’ lifted from academic articles

Michael White and Brian Whitaker
The Guardian,
Friday 7 February 2003 09.49 GMT
Article history

Downing Street was last night plunged into acute international embarrassment after it emerged that large parts of the British government’s latest dossier on Iraq – allegedly based on “intelligence material” – were taken from published academic articles, some of them several years old.
Amid charges of “scandalous” plagiarism on the night when Tony Blair attempted to rally support for the US-led campaign against Saddam Hussein, Whitehall’s dismay was compounded by the knowledge that the disputed document was singled out for praise by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, in his speech to the UN security council on Wednesday.

Citing the British dossier, entitled Iraq – its infrastructure of concealment, deception and intimidation in front of a worldwide television audience Mr Powell said: “I would call my colleagues’ attention to the fine paper that the United Kingdom distributed… which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities.”

But on Channel 4 News last night it was revealed that four of the report’s 19 pages had been copied – with only minor editing and a few insertions – from the internet version of an article by Ibrahim al-Marashi which appeared in the Middle East Review of International Affairs last September.

Though that was not the only textual embarrassment No 10 seemed determined to tough it out last night.

Dismissing the gathering controversy as the latest example of media obsession with spin, officials insisted it in no way undermines the underlying truth of the dossier, whose contents had been re-checked with British intelligence sources. “The important thing is that it is accurate,” said one source.

What Whitehall may not grasp is the horror with which unacknowledged borrowing of material – the crime of plagiarism – is regarded in American academic and media circles, even though successive US governments have a poor record of misleading their own citizens on foreign policy issues at least since the Vietnam war. On a special edi tion of BBC Newsnight, filmed before a critical audience last night, Mr Blair stressed that he was willing to forgo popularity to warn voters of the dangers of weapons of mass destruction: “I may be wrong, but I do believe it.”

With trust a critical element in the battle to woo a sceptical public the first sentence of the No 10 document merely states, somewhat cryptically, that it “draws upon a number of sources, including intelligence material”.

But Glen Rangwala, a lecturer in politics at Cambridge University, told Channel 4: “I found it quite startling when I realised that I’d read most of it before.”

The content of six more pages relies heavily on articles by Sean Boyne and Ken Gause that appeared in Jane’s Intelligence Review in 1997 and last November. None of these sources is acknowledged.

The document, as posted on Downing Street’s website at the end of January, also acci dentally named four Whitehall officials who had worked on it: P Hamill, J Pratt, A Blackshaw and M Khan. It was reposted on February 3 with the first three names deleted.

“Apart from passing this off as the work of its intelligence services,” Dr Rangwala said, “it indicates that the UK really does not have any independent sources of information on Iraq’s internal policies. It just draws upon publicly available data.”

Evidence of an electronic cut-and-paste operation by Whitehall officials can be found in the way the dossier preserves textual quirks from its original sources. One sentence in Dr Marashi’s article includes a misplaced comma in referring to Iraq’s head of military intelligence during the 1991 Gulf war. The same sentence in Downing Street’s report contains the same misplaced comma.

A Downing Street spokesman declined to say why the report’s public sources had not been acknowledged. “We said that it draws on a number of sources, including intelligence. It speaks for itself.”

Dr Marashi, a research associate at the Centre for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California, said no one had contacted him before lifting the material.

But on the regular edition of Newsnight he later gave some comfort to No 10. “In my opinion, the UK document overall is accurate even though there are a few minor cosmetic changes. The only inaccuracies in the UK document were that they maybe inflated some of the numbers of these intelligence agencies,” he said.

Explaining the more journalistic changes inserted into his work by Whitehall he added: “Being an academic paper, I tried to soften the language.

“For example, in one of my documents, I said that they support organisations in what Iraq considers hostile regimes, whereas the UK document refers to it as ’supporting terrorist organisations in hostile regimes’.

“The primary documents I used for this article are a collection of two sets of documents, one taken from Kurdish rebels in the north of Iraq – around 4m documents – as well as 300,000 documents left by Iraqi security services in Kuwait. After that, I have been following events in the Iraqi security services for the last 10 years.”

Iraq’s decision last night to let weapons inspectors interview one of its scientists for the first time without government “minders” signalled that Baghdad may be bending under international pressure.

But diplomats will be trying to determine over the next few days whether it is a token gesture or a real shift away from what they describe as Iraq’s “catch us if you can” approach to inspections. Hours before the announcement, a Foreign Office source in London signalled that this was the kind of change of heart that Iraq would have to make to avoid war.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/feb/08/politics.iraq
Downing St admits blunder on Iraq dossier
Plagiarism row casts shadow over No 10’s case against Saddam

Michael White, Ewen MacAskill and Richard Norton-Taylor
The Guardian,
Saturday 8 February 2003 00.35 GMT
Article history

Downing Street yesterday apologised for its failure to acknowledge that much of its latest dossier on Iraq was lifted from academic sources, as the affair threatened to further undermine confidence in the government’s case for disarming Saddam Hussein.
MPs and anti-war groups were quick to protest that other features of Whitehall’s information campaign are suspect at a time when MI6 and other intelligence agencies are privately complaining at the way No 10 has been over-egging intelligence material on Iraq.

It emerged yesterday that the dossier issued last week – later found to include a plagiarised section written by an American PhD student – was compiled by mid-level officials in Alastair Campbell’s Downing Street communications department with only cursory approval from intelligence or even Foreign Office sources.

Though it now appears to have been a journalistic cut and paste job rather than high-grade intelligence analysis, the dossier ended up being cited approvingly on worldwide TV by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, when he addressed the UN security council on Wednesday.

Downing Street yesterday toughed it out, insisting that what mattered was that the facts contained in the document were “solid” and helped make the case Tony Blair rammed home on BBC Newsnight. But the middle section of the dossier, which describes the feared Iraqi intelligence network, was taken, much of it verbatim, from the research of Dr Ibrahim al-Marashi without his knowledge or permission.

“In retrospect we should have acknowledged [this]. The fact that we used some of his work does not throw into question the accuracy of the document as a whole, as he himself acknowledged on Newsnight last night, where he said that in his opinion the document overall was accurate,” the No 10 spokesman conceded. “We all have lessons to learn,” he added. The four officials originally named on the website version of the 19-page dossier include Alison Blackshaw, Mr Campbell’s senior assistant, and Murtaza Khan, described as a news editor on the busy Downing Street website.

Professor Michael Clark, director of the International Policy Institute at King’s College London, said presenting such intelligence material “invalidates the veracity” of the rest of the document. The shadow foreign secretary, Michael Ancram, called for a cabinet minister to oversee government information on Iraq.

Even before the latest row some Whitehall officials were protesting that MI6 and other intelligence material was being used selectively by Downing Street. A well-placed source made it clear that the dossier had been the work of Downing Street and the Coalition Information Centre, the body set up after September 11 to put the US-British case on the war against terrorism. The source dismissed a key section of the dossier as full of “silly errors”.

Glenda Jackson, the Labour former minister, was one of several MPs to protest that the government was misleading parliament and the public. “And of course to mislead is a parliamentary euphemism for lying,” Ms Jackson told Radio 4’s Today programme.

Dr al-Marashi expressed “surprise” at the lack of a credit for his work, as did other authors whose research was quickly identified. One anti-war group, Voices in the Wilderness, identified a passage from No 10’s September dossier directly traceable to Saddam Secrets, a book by Tim Trevan published in 1999.

The Middle East Review of International Affairs, from which Dr al-Marashi’s work was lifted, is based in Israel, which makes it a suspect source to even moderate Arab opinion, and another reason why the origin of the information should have been listed.

In Whitehall one official who regularly sees MI6 reports said that Britain’s knowledge about Iraq until recently had been very poor. But another claimed there has been a recent transformation: “What has happened in the last nine months is that there is now strong intelligence coming through.”

Disturbing reports

The government has issued three reports in the past six months, trying to establish a case for action against Iraq. Each one has drawn progressively more criticism.

September The 50-page dossier Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Assessment of the British Government relied heavily on input from the Foreign Office and MI6.

The material was damning, but most of it turned out to be years old. British journalists in Baghdad visited several “facilities of concern” highlighted in the report and found nothing sinister. UN weapons inspectors later visited the same sites and uncovered nothing.

December The 23-page Saddam Hussein: Crimes and Human Rights Abuses provided a horrifying account of abuses but was widely criticised by human rights groups, MPs and others for recycling old information.

At the launch, the Foreign Office had on the platform an Iraqi exile who had been jailed by President Saddam for 11 years. Later, he disclosed that handcuffs he had worn had been made in Britain.

January 30 Iraq: Its Infrastructure of Concealment, Deception and Intimidation, was a Downing Street production. The first sentence of the report said it was based on a number of sources, including intelligence material, but it turned out that much of it was lifted from academic sources. Glen Rangwala, an academic who blew the whistle on the dossier, said yesterday: “It really does cast doubt on the credibility of the intelligence that has been put to us.”

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/15/iraq.usa/print
US claims on Iraq called into question
Inspectors pick holes in Powell allegations and call for patience in carefully coded message to council

Jonathan Steele
The Guardian, Saturday 15 February 2003 00.43 GMT

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then he defended his bullshit ..when he knew he was exposed all over the world..he is a lying sac of trash in my book and a murderer..he will never be rehabed to me..i don’t care who tries it.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/09/1073437447036.html?from=storyrhs
Colin Powell defends US policy on IraqJanuary 9, 2004 – 9:46AM

Secretary of State Colin Powell acknowledged today that he saw no “smoking gun, concrete evidence” of ties between Saddam Hussein and the al-Qaeda terror network, but insisted Iraq had dangerous weapons and needed to be disarmed by force.

At a State Department news conference, Powell openly disagreed with a private think tank report which maintained that Iraq was not an imminent threat to the United States, and defended the case he made before the United Nations for a US-led war to force Saddam from power.

“My presentation … made it clear that we had seen some links and connections to terrorists organisations over time,” Powell said.

“I have not seen smoking gun, concrete evidence about the connection, but I do believe the connections existed.”

Three experts at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace said in a report today that the Bush administration systematically misrepresented a weapons threat from Iraq, and US strategy should be revised to eliminate the policy of unilateral preventive war.

 

Comment by elise | 2009-05-21 02:07:03

Why was George Tenet sitting directly behind Colin Powell at the UN speech given by Powell? Because Powell knew the intelligence was unreliable! Wilkerson is attempting to excuse his own and Powell’s complicity in the illegal invasion of Iraq and it doesn’t work for me.

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2009-05-22 17:55:28

If you’re a soldier, as Powell is, you’re faced with a dilemma, as is Wilkerson.

Follow orders.

Or not.

Wilkerson quit, and said why. Powell is still doing whatever Powell does, but his cred is forever destroyed. He will say in his autobiography that he was a “good soldier” and served the administration by doing what they told him to do, about which he will forever carry shame.

Powell isn’t the architect of the Iraqi genocide. I simply regard him as a messenger, and don’t hold him responsible. He and his conscience can wrestle with the degree of complicity he holds.

Meanwhile, I have a speaking offer for 200000 euros for George Bush, in Amsterdam, they rilly wanna hear you, dude, just come on over and, hey don’t mind those cops that just arrested you and sent you up to the International Criminal Court, that’s just a formality.

 
 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-05-21 10:23:02

we can all agree that the repubs used their 8 years to screw up. no argument there. HOWEVER, THAT IS BY NO MEANS RELEVANT IN SO FAR AS SUPPORTING NANCY PELOSI TODAY. SHE WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM. SHE COOPERATED, CLIMBED ABOARD AND FUNDED THE REPUB MISADVENTURES. THE DIMOCRATS ARE NOT OUR SAVIOURS OR ANSWER. THEY ARE CONNING THE HIGH MINDED TO PUSH THEIR AGENDA AND AGAIN IT IS AGENDA THAT IS NOT MEANT FOR THE WELFARE OF AVERAGE AMERICANS. DUH! BOTH OF THESE USELESS TOOLS ARE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE CORRUPTION IN THE DIMOCRATIC PARTY AND WELL AS IN THE REPUB PARTY, AMERICA.

 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-05-21 10:27:47

pelosi was part of the repub misadventure. she supported it, funded it and knew all about it. this is a democratic attempt to sway the highminded to their agenda. guess what, the democrats are part of the same coin as the repubs. neither side has the average american’s welfare at hear. wake up and smell the corruption.

tearing this country apart right now takes our mind off what the democrats are not doing for us in dc. duh

Comment by IndianaDem | 2009-05-21 15:28:20

tearing this country apart right now takes our mind off what the democrats are not doing for us in dc.

So why won’t the republicans stop yapping about what Pelosi did or didn’t know and get down to some actual business? They’re the ones creating the distraction.

 
 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2009-05-22 17:36:11

Nice one! I’ve seen Ray’s dry sense of humor in action live, as you may recall, but this is one of his best.

 

Comment by Chris Vosburg | 2009-05-22 17:41:37

stodgie writes: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE CORRUPTION IN THE DIMOCRATIC PARTY AND WELL AS IN THE REPUB PARTY, AMERICA

Caps lock key, just to the left of the “A” key. Press once. There ya go. Thanks!

 

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Church Security Assessment Tools…

Maybe, but I’m not sure it’for everyone….

 

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