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		<title>By: Paco</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1209407</link>
		<dc:creator>Paco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nuke is planted in a major US city.  

YOUR children live there.

Waterboarding a terrorist would reveal the location and allow intervention to prevent the disaster.

Your &quot;moral compass&quot; won&#039;t allow it?  

I call bullshit.  If anyone truthfully would let their kids die instead of a terrorist having water poured over them with no physical harm, they are sicker in the head than the terrorist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nuke is planted in a major US city.  </p>
<p>YOUR children live there.</p>
<p>Waterboarding a terrorist would reveal the location and allow intervention to prevent the disaster.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;moral compass&#8221; won&#8217;t allow it?  </p>
<p>I call bullshit.  If anyone truthfully would let their kids die instead of a terrorist having water poured over them with no physical harm, they are sicker in the head than the terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208695</link>
		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bravo, berfle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bravo, berfle!</p>
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		<title>By: propertius</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208690</link>
		<dc:creator>propertius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Lorac, I got everything but the &quot;бухгалтера&quot;. It&#039;s been 30 years since I took Russian, I never learned the word for &quot;accountant&quot;, and I don&#039;t have a Russian dictionary ;-).

I&#039;m amazed I could make as much sense of it as I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lorac, I got everything but the &#8220;бухгалтера&#8221;. It&#8217;s been 30 years since I took Russian, I never learned the word for &#8220;accountant&#8221;, and I don&#8217;t have a Russian dictionary <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed I could make as much sense of it as I did.</p>
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		<title>By: propertius</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208689</link>
		<dc:creator>propertius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We never &lt;em&gt;stopped&lt;/em&gt; using rendition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We never <em>stopped</em> using rendition.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208641</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also doesn&#039;t have to tear the country apart.  If a prosecution is held in a fair and just manner, according to the Constitution, we might actually be able to form some common ground of belief about this subject after listening to all the evidence.  It can be done at the same time as we go ahead with governing the country.  It&#039;s not an either / or situation at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also doesn&#8217;t have to tear the country apart.  If a prosecution is held in a fair and just manner, according to the Constitution, we might actually be able to form some common ground of belief about this subject after listening to all the evidence.  It can be done at the same time as we go ahead with governing the country.  It&#8217;s not an either / or situation at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208638</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is shallow and frankly not too bright to ascribe a financial motive a 68-year old millionaire many times over (remember his tenure with the reviled Halliburten), who is presently driving to StarBucks and spending time with his grandkids when he’s not speaking out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We can also point to serial killers who &quot;loved&quot; their own families. We can point to wealthy men in history and in legend who could never have enough wealth. He may not be evil along the lines of a serial killer, simply because he would never dirty his fingers doing the work and wants others to do it.  But he has contributed greatly to spreading evil behavior using our tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is shallow and frankly not too bright to ascribe a financial motive a 68-year old millionaire many times over (remember his tenure with the reviled Halliburten), who is presently driving to StarBucks and spending time with his grandkids when he’s not speaking out.</p></blockquote>
<p>We can also point to serial killers who &#8220;loved&#8221; their own families. We can point to wealthy men in history and in legend who could never have enough wealth. He may not be evil along the lines of a serial killer, simply because he would never dirty his fingers doing the work and wants others to do it.  But he has contributed greatly to spreading evil behavior using our tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208636</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he (W) really was elected, but who knows with the way voting is managed nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he (W) really was elected, but who knows with the way voting is managed nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208635</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 00:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opinions are formed in reality.  There is an actual world.  Neurobiology and neuropsychology are all pointing to the fact that, unlike what some people believe, there is truth.  And since there is truth, there is right and there is wrong when dealing with reality.  It&#039;s in our brains; what is in brains and what is &quot;mind&quot; are important questions that haven&#039;t been answered and aren&#039;t yet close to being answered.  But the advancing science of the brain points to right and wrong as being not just in our minds--it comes from our body&#039;s life in a real world and the fact that all our separate bodies live in the same real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opinions are formed in reality.  There is an actual world.  Neurobiology and neuropsychology are all pointing to the fact that, unlike what some people believe, there is truth.  And since there is truth, there is right and there is wrong when dealing with reality.  It&#8217;s in our brains; what is in brains and what is &#8220;mind&#8221; are important questions that haven&#8217;t been answered and aren&#8217;t yet close to being answered.  But the advancing science of the brain points to right and wrong as being not just in our minds&#8211;it comes from our body&#8217;s life in a real world and the fact that all our separate bodies live in the same real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Franklin Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208630</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Franklin Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nicely done, Diana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely done, Diana.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208628</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised you didn&#039;t use the term &quot;baby&quot; instead of &quot;fetus.&quot;  In any case, I never said I liked the idea of abortion; I don&#039;t. It doesn&#039;t mean that I go along with all the pro-life people on abortion who will hang &#039;em high when they think they have a murderer on their hands.  

I&#039;ve been around for a long long time and I&#039;ve read through all the arguments pro and con, so I have my opinion about this issue, and I do not think it is the same issue as the one this post is about, so I won&#039;t go into it.  I also won&#039;t call a fetus a baby unless I am sure it is.  And I won&#039;t call a man a terrorist unless I am sure he is.  And I won&#039;t torture him to make him into one.

Being a raving sadist doesn&#039;t win anyone over to your side.  Perhaps you need anger management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised you didn&#8217;t use the term &#8220;baby&#8221; instead of &#8220;fetus.&#8221;  In any case, I never said I liked the idea of abortion; I don&#8217;t. It doesn&#8217;t mean that I go along with all the pro-life people on abortion who will hang &#8216;em high when they think they have a murderer on their hands.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been around for a long long time and I&#8217;ve read through all the arguments pro and con, so I have my opinion about this issue, and I do not think it is the same issue as the one this post is about, so I won&#8217;t go into it.  I also won&#8217;t call a fetus a baby unless I am sure it is.  And I won&#8217;t call a man a terrorist unless I am sure he is.  And I won&#8217;t torture him to make him into one.</p>
<p>Being a raving sadist doesn&#8217;t win anyone over to your side.  Perhaps you need anger management.</p>
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		<title>By: Uppity Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208558</link>
		<dc:creator>Uppity Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;agree Carol… Imagine the “fear” and Psychological “stress” all those folks felt as they looked out the window of the plane as it flew towards the ground, WTC, and Pentagon… Or those seconds before they hit the ground after jumping from 100 stories up….&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Now that was torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>agree Carol… Imagine the “fear” and Psychological “stress” all those folks felt as they looked out the window of the plane as it flew towards the ground, WTC, and Pentagon… Or those seconds before they hit the ground after jumping from 100 stories up….</p></blockquote>
<p>Now that was torture.</p>
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		<title>By: sjc-tx</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/23/news-the-astonishing-and-revelatory/#comment-1208550</link>
		<dc:creator>sjc-tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

    So cry me a river. Torture is too good for them. They should have been executed by now. I really have never understand people that have a problem with torture and the death penalty but are happy to have a fetus shredded on it’s way out of the womb.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree Carol… Imagine the “fear” and Psychological “stress” all those folks felt as they looked out the window of the plane as it flew towards the ground, WTC, and Pentagon… Or those seconds before they hit the ground after jumping from 100 stories up….

Sorry that I can;t be so self-righteous and sanctamonious as those who want to whine about persons being made to feel “unconfortable” during an “interrogation”…</description>
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<p>    So cry me a river. Torture is too good for them. They should have been executed by now. I really have never understand people that have a problem with torture and the death penalty but are happy to have a fetus shredded on it’s way out of the womb.
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<p>I agree Carol… Imagine the “fear” and Psychological “stress” all those folks felt as they looked out the window of the plane as it flew towards the ground, WTC, and Pentagon… Or those seconds before they hit the ground after jumping from 100 stories up….</p>
<p>Sorry that I can;t be so self-righteous and sanctamonious as those who want to whine about persons being made to feel “unconfortable” during an “interrogation”…</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were it that we could do that. It is like being a passenger on the Titanic and telling everybody you see an iceberg... but nobody believes in icebergs anymore. Or so the captain says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were it that we could do that. It is like being a passenger on the Titanic and telling everybody you see an iceberg&#8230; but nobody believes in icebergs anymore. Or so the captain says.</p>
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		<title>By: ConfusedAmerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConfusedAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is dismantling more than just our secruity. At the rate Obama is going Im not sure what will be left of our country in 4 years.
If Cheney is considered evil, then I would hate to think of what to call Obama; Satanic ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is dismantling more than just our secruity. At the rate Obama is going Im not sure what will be left of our country in 4 years.<br />
If Cheney is considered evil, then I would hate to think of what to call Obama; Satanic ???</p>
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		<title>By: ConfusedAmerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConfusedAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats why we need to stop all of this before 9/11 is repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats why we need to stop all of this before 9/11 is repeated.</p>
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