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	<title>Comments on: Jesse Ventura Bodyslams Cheney and His Torture Cohorts</title>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209619</link>
		<dc:creator>ces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIDICULOUS.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Absolutely not. Why would you think so? I&#039;ve seen this behavior first hand in Morristown, NJ. Women at retail establishments put the change on the counter, instead of putting it in the customer&#039;s hand, because of the religious stigma. Again, we all have our weaknesses that torturers can exploit if they are allowed to.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you are implying&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You do realize that Cheney and Addington hid this policy from the top legal people in the military, right? Why turn it around and make it about me incorrectly accusing you of something? Ya see, if you know that Cheney hid this from just about everybody who dissented from his narrow interpretation, then you think torture is OK?? Is that what you&#039;re saying? Because what I was saying was, maybe MOST of the Dims didn&#039;t know?? The JAGs didn&#039;t know!! How the cowpies would joe blow representative know?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Um, absolutely NOT.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s called a figure of speech. Of course you don&#039;t forget ANYBODY who was involved! Pelosi and Conyers and the other top Dims are weak and huge hyprocrites, because they haven&#039;t brought those involved (from top to bottom) to trial. For that alone, Pelosi should be impeached. And if it&#039;s proven she knew about it, she should have her orange jumpsuit, too.

The gravity of international law excludes torture from acceptable norms, and no amount of fear or righteous indignation can overcome that. 

We can be better than our enemies, and it&#039;s time we got back to acting like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIDICULOUS.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely not. Why would you think so? I&#8217;ve seen this behavior first hand in Morristown, NJ. Women at retail establishments put the change on the counter, instead of putting it in the customer&#8217;s hand, because of the religious stigma. Again, we all have our weaknesses that torturers can exploit if they are allowed to.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you are implying</p></blockquote>
<p>You do realize that Cheney and Addington hid this policy from the top legal people in the military, right? Why turn it around and make it about me incorrectly accusing you of something? Ya see, if you know that Cheney hid this from just about everybody who dissented from his narrow interpretation, then you think torture is OK?? Is that what you&#8217;re saying? Because what I was saying was, maybe MOST of the Dims didn&#8217;t know?? The JAGs didn&#8217;t know!! How the cowpies would joe blow representative know?</p>
<blockquote><p>Um, absolutely NOT.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s called a figure of speech. Of course you don&#8217;t forget ANYBODY who was involved! Pelosi and Conyers and the other top Dims are weak and huge hyprocrites, because they haven&#8217;t brought those involved (from top to bottom) to trial. For that alone, Pelosi should be impeached. And if it&#8217;s proven she knew about it, she should have her orange jumpsuit, too.</p>
<p>The gravity of international law excludes torture from acceptable norms, and no amount of fear or righteous indignation can overcome that. </p>
<p>We can be better than our enemies, and it&#8217;s time we got back to acting like it.</p>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209604</link>
		<dc:creator>ces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll wait to see if my first reply makes it out of the NQ spam filter before writing it out again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll wait to see if my first reply makes it out of the NQ spam filter before writing it out again.</p>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209593</link>
		<dc:creator>ces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Cheney has a special place in his heart for jumper cables....

/snark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Cheney has a special place in his heart for jumper cables&#8230;.</p>
<p>/snark</p>
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		<title>By: CentralMass</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209589</link>
		<dc:creator>CentralMass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney must be easy to buy gifts for. An old rusty pair of pliars or pair of jumper cables.  The Rummy field manual on how to get the most out of that naked man pyramid, etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney must be easy to buy gifts for. An old rusty pair of pliars or pair of jumper cables.  The Rummy field manual on how to get the most out of that naked man pyramid, etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209574</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Would an orthodox Jew touch a women during her ‘cycle’? I think not. They don’t touch any woman for fear she’s ‘unclean’ due to her cycle. I would thing, because of their strict religious background, those Jews would consider it torturous to be touched by a woman, let alone one appearing to be ‘unclean.’ So, again, bringing on those stresses is torture&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIDICULOUS. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;And of course the Dims are complicit. That’s a huge part of the problem. But read up on the issue, Jules, and you’ll see that 
Cheney, specifically, hid much of this from EVERYONE else&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you are implying that I have not done the proper amount of reading and if I had then I would agree with you...you are sorely mistaken. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;So forget all the hubbub about Pelosi and the CIA&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, absolutely NOT.  Will never forget.  She is an empty-headed, petty, pathetic hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Would an orthodox Jew touch a women during her ‘cycle’? I think not. They don’t touch any woman for fear she’s ‘unclean’ due to her cycle. I would thing, because of their strict religious background, those Jews would consider it torturous to be touched by a woman, let alone one appearing to be ‘unclean.’ So, again, bringing on those stresses is torture</p></blockquote>
<p>OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIDICULOUS. </p>
<blockquote><p>And of course the Dims are complicit. That’s a huge part of the problem. But read up on the issue, Jules, and you’ll see that<br />
Cheney, specifically, hid much of this from EVERYONE else</p></blockquote>
<p>If you are implying that I have not done the proper amount of reading and if I had then I would agree with you&#8230;you are sorely mistaken. </p>
<blockquote><p>So forget all the hubbub about Pelosi and the CIA</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, absolutely NOT.  Will never forget.  She is an empty-headed, petty, pathetic hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209570</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difference is, I don&#039;t think &quot;conservapedia&quot; is making any attempt to misrepresent themselves as an unbiased source. 

Since you seem interested in psychological profiles, here is a nice profile of liberals:  

&lt;blockquote&gt;http://lexann.vox.com/library/post/liberalism-is-a-mental-disease.html&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difference is, I don&#8217;t think &#8220;conservapedia&#8221; is making any attempt to misrepresent themselves as an unbiased source. </p>
<p>Since you seem interested in psychological profiles, here is a nice profile of liberals:  </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://lexann.vox.com/library/post/liberalism-is-a-mental-disease.html" rel="nofollow">http://lexann.vox.com/library/post/liberalism-is-a-mental-disease.html</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209361</link>
		<dc:creator>ces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does if they: 

a) were setting up legal precedents to give our folks &quot;preemptive immunity&quot;...that says there&#039;s NO SHERRIFF in town. These guys set up a policy of torture. Period.

and 

b) no one was ever punished. If otherwise good people knew they won&#039;t get punished they&#039;ll do all sorts of things. And this is why I distrust/dislike Pelosi/oblunder so much...they haven&#039;t gone after those who committed these crimes (from top to bottom, including the DIMS briefed!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does if they: </p>
<p>a) were setting up legal precedents to give our folks &#8220;preemptive immunity&#8221;&#8230;that says there&#8217;s NO SHERRIFF in town. These guys set up a policy of torture. Period.</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>b) no one was ever punished. If otherwise good people knew they won&#8217;t get punished they&#8217;ll do all sorts of things. And this is why I distrust/dislike Pelosi/oblunder so much&#8230;they haven&#8217;t gone after those who committed these crimes (from top to bottom, including the DIMS briefed!!)</p>
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		<title>By: just_me_kc</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209243</link>
		<dc:creator>just_me_kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209235</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ventura may have been a mistake for Gov in MN, but he has a point regarding waterboarding. Yes or no Politicalidentitycrisis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ventura may have been a mistake for Gov in MN, but he has a point regarding waterboarding. Yes or no Politicalidentitycrisis?</p>
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		<title>By: FLDemFem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209231</link>
		<dc:creator>FLDemFem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama and his self righteous followers have put themselves on a pedestal of certain defeat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
True, true..but they won&#039;t admit to it being &lt;em&gt;their &lt;/em&gt;fault. When they fail, it will be because they were let down by the people who just didn&#039;t understand how high-minded Obummer is and didn&#039;t do as they were told. It won&#039;t be their fault, it will be ours. You just wait and see. When Obummer fails, it won&#039;t be his fault, it will be because the rest of us weren&#039;t good enough for him. Gag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama and his self righteous followers have put themselves on a pedestal of certain defeat.</p></blockquote>
<p>True, true..but they won&#8217;t admit to it being <em>their </em>fault. When they fail, it will be because they were let down by the people who just didn&#8217;t understand how high-minded Obummer is and didn&#8217;t do as they were told. It won&#8217;t be their fault, it will be ours. You just wait and see. When Obummer fails, it won&#8217;t be his fault, it will be because the rest of us weren&#8217;t good enough for him. Gag.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209206</link>
		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People die at the hands of our regular domestic police regularly. There was a sheriff deputy in Tampa not long ago, who ordered a quadriplegic to stand up... a few moments later, she dumped the guy out of his wheelchair and told him again to get up... all on camera. People are human and they react sometimes with emotion that is from the moment. That doesn&#039;t make it o.k. any more than it makes Bush and Cheney responsible for everything that happens in military prisoner handling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People die at the hands of our regular domestic police regularly. There was a sheriff deputy in Tampa not long ago, who ordered a quadriplegic to stand up&#8230; a few moments later, she dumped the guy out of his wheelchair and told him again to get up&#8230; all on camera. People are human and they react sometimes with emotion that is from the moment. That doesn&#8217;t make it o.k. any more than it makes Bush and Cheney responsible for everything that happens in military prisoner handling.</p>
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		<title>By: DCMediagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209194</link>
		<dc:creator>DCMediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woodiej: Temper temper! What happened to &quot;courtesy&quot; and &quot;being polite&quot;?  And turning the tables, Jesse Ventura is a former SEAL.  Your qualifications for loudly shouting your opinions on a blog are that you have a job, go to school, own a house with a yard, don&#039;t keep up with the news and get your information from Limbaugh and Fox. You have zero expertise in defense, intelligence, international affairs or military strategy. So I ask you, why should readers give a F*** about what YOU think? See, I didn&#039;t write the whole curse word down. I&#039;m just being courteous and polite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodiej: Temper temper! What happened to &#8220;courtesy&#8221; and &#8220;being polite&#8221;?  And turning the tables, Jesse Ventura is a former SEAL.  Your qualifications for loudly shouting your opinions on a blog are that you have a job, go to school, own a house with a yard, don&#8217;t keep up with the news and get your information from Limbaugh and Fox. You have zero expertise in defense, intelligence, international affairs or military strategy. So I ask you, why should readers give a F*** about what YOU think? See, I didn&#8217;t write the whole curse word down. I&#8217;m just being courteous and polite.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209189</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more Cheney talks, &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/05/dick-cheney-george-w-bush-poll.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; the more Americans seem to like him.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more Cheney talks, <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/05/dick-cheney-george-w-bush-poll.html" rel="nofollow"> the more Americans seem to like him.</a></p>
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		<title>By: DCMediagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCMediagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woodiej:  Glad you could take time off from your extremely busy schedule and your house with a yard (which prevents you from keeping up with the news, alas) to post. Aren&#039;t you the hall monitor who&#039;s perpetually scolding those who disagree with you to be courteous?  Your tone isn&#039;t very nice in this post. And since you&#039;re always badgering me when I post about Fox or Limbaugh, demanding &quot;proof&quot; of this or that, I return the volley.  Please provide proof - actual, tangible proof that would stand up in court - that each and every detainee being held at Guantanamo, Baghram and other facilities are guilty of being an al Qaeda follower, being a terrorist, or breaking any law of any kind. I wrote EACH AND EVERY DETAINEE, not just Khalid Sheikh Mohammad.  To quote you, are you an expert???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodiej:  Glad you could take time off from your extremely busy schedule and your house with a yard (which prevents you from keeping up with the news, alas) to post. Aren&#8217;t you the hall monitor who&#8217;s perpetually scolding those who disagree with you to be courteous?  Your tone isn&#8217;t very nice in this post. And since you&#8217;re always badgering me when I post about Fox or Limbaugh, demanding &#8220;proof&#8221; of this or that, I return the volley.  Please provide proof &#8211; actual, tangible proof that would stand up in court &#8211; that each and every detainee being held at Guantanamo, Baghram and other facilities are guilty of being an al Qaeda follower, being a terrorist, or breaking any law of any kind. I wrote EACH AND EVERY DETAINEE, not just Khalid Sheikh Mohammad.  To quote you, are you an expert???</p>
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		<title>By: Uppity Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/25/jesse-ventura-slams-waterboarding-advocate/#comment-1209148</link>
		<dc:creator>Uppity Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cheney was too busy contemplating bringing Democracy and Haliburten to the Middle East.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
......but mostly Haliburton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cheney was too busy contemplating bringing Democracy and Haliburten to the Middle East.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;but mostly Haliburton.</p>
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