Comments on: To All Those Who Jumped on Janet Napolitano’s Statement…

By: Docelder

Docelder — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:04:48 +0000

No, I think he reported that protesters called him killer. O’Reilly didn’t call him anything personally, he just reported what others had said. It is a news show and the guy and the controversy was newsworthy.

By: Kbentleyis

Kbentleyis — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:00:13 +0000

I have never heard O’Reilly promote the death of this doctor. I remember him reporting the news on the doctor’s indictment on late abortions, but never did O’Reilly say anything about killing this man.

Incidentally, since when can’t a journalist have an opinion on this type of abortion? I think people should stop trying to find someone to blame for this doctor’s death. Frankly, he received more publicity from his indictment than O’Reilly ever gave him!

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Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:42:17 +0000

[...] course the crazies were out to justify the murder of Dr. Tilley, while of course saying that they do not condone [...]

By: lorac

lorac — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:52:59 +0000

My understanding is that she also produced a left-wing portfolio – but the MSM didn’t talk about that one.

By: anon

anon — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:40:18 +0000

I don’t condone or in any way sympathize with the violent and illegal actions of the Weathermen. In fairness, let’s remember that they always targeted symbols of authority–not other human beings–taking care to do their damage when no human beings were present. After 24 bombings, the only deaths resulting from their terrorist activities were several of their own.

The Brinks robbery, in which a guard was killed, did involve 2 former Weather Underground members, but occurred in 1981, several years after the Weather Underground group had disolved. The robbery was the work of RATF and the BLA. It might be argued those were criminal gangs more than political organizations, though their actions were rationalized by way of political ideology.

By: Betsy Buzz Ross Latte

Betsy Buzz Ross Latte — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:39:42 +0000

Well put, Scout.

And thanks, Ferd.

By: ces

ces — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:29:36 +0000

Googling “medical reasons for late term abortion” gave this as a first hit:

I’m not a doctor, so can’t vouch for the integrity of the list, but at least it’s a place to start.

If it were my wife and my unborn child, I’d want to know the facts, the statistics, and the options.

By: ces

ces — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:26:42 +0000

So, should we base policy off your experiences alone? Please site your references about “no” conditions for late term abortions. I’d genuinely like to see it.

Of course, killing fetuses is awful, but it’s not always a black/white scenario.

By: ces

ces — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:22:51 +0000

Yup, people != policy. As is the case for a lot of institutions.

But still, I would assert that the Church’s message and policy has a lot of sway. If we followed Rome’s rules, Catholics would not use birth control, correct?

But your point is well made.

By: o

Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:25:37 +0000

Governor Palin Statement on George Tiller and William Long
June 1, 2009
Governor Palin Statement on George Tiller
“I feel sorrow for the Tiller family. I respect the sanctity of life and the tragedy that took place today in Kansas clearly violates respect for life. This murder also damages the positive message of life, for the unborn, and for those living. Ask yourself, ‘What will those who have not yet decided personally where they stand on this issue take away from today’s event in Kansas?’
Regardless of my strong objection to Dr. Tiller’s abortion practices, violence is never an answer in advancing the pro-life message.”
Governor Sarah Palin
http://www.sarahpac.com/news/news32.aspx

June 2, 2009
Governor Palin Statement on William Long
“The stories of two very different lives with similar fates crossed through the media’s hands yesterday – both equally important but one lacked the proper attention. The death of 67-year old George Tiller was unacceptable, but equally disgusting was another death that police believe was politically and religiously motivated as well.
William Long died yesterday. The 23-year old Army Recruiter was gunned down by a fanatic; another fellow soldier was wounded in the ambush. The soldiers had just completed their basic training and were talking to potential recruits, just as my son, Track, once did.
Whatever titles we give these murderers, both deserve our attention. Violence like that is no way to solve a political dispute nor a religious one. And the fanatics on all sides do great disservice when they confuse dissention with rage and death.”
Governor Sarah Palin
http://www.sarahpac.com/news/news33.aspx

By: stodgie

stodgie — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:19:34 +0000

ferd, there is nothing wrong with having a right and left side otherwise there could be no middle. (smile) it is the power being given to these two sides and their attacks and destruction of the constitution and our cheristed rights/way of life that alarm me. the media as we all know played an important part. there will always be sides but the dumbing down of americans aided by the media certainly helped this slow dance to chaos.

By: NomNomNom

NomNomNom — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:53:59 +0000

A person with an incurable disease is not a threat to the health and often future fertility of their mother, so I don’t see the two cases as analogous.
I am for a patient’s right to die, and in the case of persons with guardians, for the guardian’s right to choose when to end treatment.
I do not believe anti-abortionists stand for life, I believe they stand against a woman’s right to self determination as noted in post immediately above.
Here are a couple of examples:
http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/24/incest.abortion/ 12 year old girl raped and impregnated by her brother receives right abortion at 7 months
http://cookcounty.injuryboard.com/nursing-home-and-elder-abuse/cna-sentenced-in-rape-of-nursing-home-resident.aspx?googleid=218158
The woman in this case was in a coma and paraplegic following a car crash. The pregnancy was discovered at 5 months. Her family wanted her to be forced to have the baby. She probably did, but I could not find any follow up articles. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/04/05/doctor_on_trial_in_missed_pregnancy_of_raped_coma_patient/
Another comatose woman raped, gives birth to premature brain damaged infant before any decision about her case was made
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/12/nyregion/doctors-perform-abortion-on-comatose-li-woman.html
Nancy Klein case, where nuts tried to claim guardianship of comatose pregnant woman in order to force her to have baby; husband sues and wins guardianship in hope that abortion will improve wife’s chance of recovery; after abortion, Klein subsequently came out of coma and at last report was recovering.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/12/nyregion/after-battle-on-abortion-a-struggle-to-recover.html?sec=&spon= Nancy Klein
http://www.aperfectcause.com/artman/publish/article_810.asp
Yet another comatose woman raped and impregnated bears child of nut who says he raped the woman “in the interest of science”
http://viv.id.au/blog/20090209.3672/women-as-wheelbarrows-italian-pm-wants-woman-in-coma-alive-as-fetus-container/
Here’s my favorite: Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi tries to block removal of feeding tube of woman in coma for 17 years because,” she’s in the condition to have babies.” She hasn’t been raped and impregnated yet, but Hey, you never know, Berlusconi might get lucky!

By: I'm a Linda too

I'm a Linda too — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:51:10 +0000

…about right-wing extremists posing a national security threat, how’s this working for you? Oh, and remember him?

What?

By: Owllwoman

Owllwoman — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:17:24 +0000

Using your theory, someone with an incurable disease, might also be put down or given an injection, to save money for the State or save the family from monetary loss? The man who killed the Doctor was wrong. But that doesn’t make what the doctor did, abortions, right. At some point we as a Nation have to stand for Life, or demean its value all together!

By: beebop

beebop — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:44:51 +0000

The young recruiter was slaughtered by someone converted to the terrorist faction of Islam … so. They you are.