When is “Hussein” not a Smear? When Obama says it’s not, of course.
By LisaB on June 3, 2009 at 9:42 AM in Current Affairs, Muslims & Arabs, Obama's Media Censorship
Jake Tapper reports today it is no longer a crime to say Obama’s middle name, nor to suggest he has some muslim background.
The candidate was even offended when referred to by his initials “BHO,” because he considered the use of his middle name, “Hussein,” an attempt to frighten voters.”
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In September 2008, candidate Obama told a Pennsylvania crowd. . . {Republicans are ] really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that, you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections.’. . . Just making stuff up.”
Over at NYT Caucus blog a writer notes Obama’s statement in Germany that the US could be considered a Muslim country.
The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”
“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”
Jihadwatch thinks that’s over the top, noting:
Here is a What-Is-Obama-Smoking? Alert:
Indonesia: 200 million Muslims. India: 156 million Muslims. Pakistan: 150 million Muslims.
United States: 2.3 million Muslims (according to the Pew Research Center).
2.3 million? More than the Republic of Macedonia but less than Mongolia. But whatever.
Now, BO is not a Muslim. He says he’s Christian, and, for what it’s worth, I believe that is the label he prefers.
This story aggravates me strictly because people were branded racist or moronic, or “just plain wrong” because they dared mention BO’s connection to Islam. But what was once unthinkable for Americans to talk about is now an important talking point to the Islamic world.
SusanUnPC also talked about this back in April and included a clip of BO equating people questioning his background with those talking about Bristol Palin’s womb
Obama and his minions were clearly concerned his middle name and history might prove too close to Islam for some Americans and chose to go on the offensive early in the primary. Remember all those pundits who piously said emphasizing “Hussein” was, if not racist, then nearly as wrong? So much so that during the campaign, Time asked why “Hussein” was “off-limits.”
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.: that is the full name of the junior Senator from Illinois — neither a contrivance nor, at face value, a slur. But John McCain couldn’t apologize quickly enough after Bill Cunningham, a conservative talk radio host, warmed up a Cincinnati rally with a few loaded references to “Barack Hussein Obama.” Asked afterwards if it was appropriate to use the Senator’s middle name, McCain said, “No, it is not. Any comment that is disparaging of either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is totally inappropriate.”
[Clearly, many people didn't get the memo when it came to Senator Clinton.]
The pundits were quick to applaud McCain’s fatwa against the use of Hussein, and broadcasters began trying to report on the controversy without actually saying the name too much, dancing around the offending word as if they were doing a segment on The Vagina Monologues. In both cases, the word comes off as not quite illicit, but certainly a little taboo.
NPR also discussed the “middle name problem” some time ago, but the tone from the start was that it was, basically, unacceptable to use it. They also said the “name-which-cannot-be-said” meme started with Karl Rove.
Using Barack Obama’s middle name, Hussein, sounds “like a rallying cry for bigots.”
No, that didn’t come from anyone in the Barack Obama camp. Nor did it come from any liberal pundit defending him. It actually came from someone many liberals consider akin to Darth Vader – Karl Rove.
But if the whole “name-which-cannot-be-said” meme started with Rove, then you’d think the way to answer it, if BO was as enlightened as some thought (light bringer, anyone?) would be open discussion. BO had attended a Christian church, after all, for 20 years.
OK, maybe drawing attention to his church attendance was a bigger problem. Can’t use THAT argument.
Slate did a sympathetic article back in Dec 06 about the whole “name game,” giving credibility to studies of the effect of middle names on politics. (Seriously.) It seems as if even grown-ups can’t resist riffiing on a rival’s middle name, when it’s a little bit silly – as many middle names are.
The research of Grant W. Smith, a professor of English at Eastern Washington University, who has studied how voters react to the sounds of candidates’ names, suggests that Obama’s name could hurt him with undecided voters, who, since they sometimes cast ballots on the basis of vague sentiments, may be influenced by a candidate’s unusual moniker.
(An aside here. A judge, running for chief justice of the NC supreme court, listed his name on the ballot as I. Beverly Lake. The thought at the time was he wanted to appear as a female to voters not familiar with him, so I’d say the “name game” cuts both ways. Oh, and he won.)
Slate also notes an early push-back against the use of “Hussein.”
Just days after Barack Obama mused about running for president, Republican strategist Ed Rogers winged the senator on Hardball. “Count me down as somebody who underestimates Barack Hussein Obama,” sneered Rogers, carefully enunciating Obama’s middle name—a family moniker passed down from his Kenyan father and grandfather.
Obama’s camp, which had not hidden their man’s middle name or bragged about it, cried foul. “It wasn’t a slip of the tongue, I know that,” Obama’s communications director, Robert Gibbs, told Maureen Dowd. “You can’t solve Iraq with a campaign about people’s middle names.”
Obama’s team advanced a moral argument, saying his name and background could not be used to question him, in fact that it was wrong to do so at all. And the MSM bought big.
But it was a political wrong rather than a moral one. POLITICALLY Obama could not stand for people to discuss or mention his connections to Islam, tenuous though they were. So, the machine set to scapegoating anyone who tried with a moral wrong. Using “Hussein” became racist.
Until it wasn’t. Now Obama touts those connections. Now that the politics of the thing has changed, it’s OK to remind Americans (via foreign speeches, natch) about Obama’s time in Indonesia and his name-that-shall-not-be-said. No more moral hazard? Don’t bet on it. It’ll be OK for Europe to talk about it; OK for the Islamic countries to talk about. In fact, the only people not allowed to talk about it are us. Well, just those of us not making up the Muslim country of America.
And when did political wrongs turn into moral ones anyway? And why didn’t calling Sarah Palin a c–t ever rise to the level of moral wrong? Nah, that was just hard-balled politics, wasn’t it?
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where is the birth certificate? we have got to impeach this guy
So when will it be OK to admit that he is not really an American citizen?
BRAVO
When will anyone notice that Michelle does not accompany Obama to countries with Sharia Law?
It’s hard to be a “fashion icon” when you are covered head to toe. Heh.
LOL!
Apparently Michelle can’t find any burkas at J Crew.
Good one FLDemFem!
But the Burka could get double use… tending the bees in the victory garden.
Good one FLDemFem!
Especially since she can’t show her arms.
Haha! Perfect!
The scary part is that there are high fashion burkas,& veils are in this year.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/video/4689/the_burka_hits_the_catwalk_at_london.html
http://www.style.com/fashionshows/complete/F2009RTW-CMMEGRNS
http://www.boloji.com/wfs5/wfs717.htm
Probably any day now, we will be hearing an admission that in fact he is NOT a naturalized citizen of this country. He gets cockier with each passing day, so full of himself, self-pride, and satisfaction with all he has achieved in his first 150 days!
The hallmark of his presidency is reversing himself. After all his mentor, the socialist, said it was ok to change your mind and break campaign promises. The mentor’s book said, “the people will just remember you were successfully elected – not HOW you were elected”. He surely thinks he can get away with anything these days. Yep, he’s following the mentor book to the letter!
“Probably any day now, we will be hearing an admission that in fact he is NOT a naturalized citizen”
If he *is* naturalized, he’s not eligible (that would mean he either never had US citizenship or gave it up, and then “became” a US citizen).
I’m sure after he tosses Israel aside the Mossad will come up with that birth cert.
“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said.
You mean that Barack Hussein Obama? The smartest and bestest POTUS evah? The one who now loves his “heritage”?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/obama-signals-themes-of-mideast-speech/?hp
I like how The Times doesnt even check the math. Imagine if McCain (alzheimers!) or Palin (stupid!) or Hillary (cankles!) had said something this completely false.
I think this adoration of Obama at all costs wont ever end.
0.6% of USA is Muslim
76% identify self as Christian
(last stats I read)
Its not really the numbers that bother me, its that people just go along with it. Its Orwellian.
Yes, very frightening HC123…
O boy, got to ask Wolfram Alpha something: religions percentages USA:
Protestant 51.3
Catholic 23.9
Latter Day Saints (Mormon) 1.7
Jewish 1.7
Buddhist .7
Muslim .6
other 18.6
The stunner for me in these results is that “Buddhist” edges out “Muslim.”
You apparently don’t live near Boulder, CO. Buddhism is the in religion of the with-it Boulderites.
oowawa, not all Buddhist shave their heads and wear robes. That’s a sign of humility which is something Obama knows nothing about.
LOL elise–I am a Buddhist, and I don’t have a yellow robe, and my hair is thinning but I don’t shave my head. I was surprised that there were fewer Muslims in the USA than Buddhists, that’s all–especially since The One remarked:
Now how would it sound if he had said:
And yet, by the stats from Wolfram Alpha, there are more Buddhists in the USA than Muslims . . .
How about the Taoists? The God who can be spoken of is not the true God. There are a number of us and we refrain from creation dogma of any sort.
Ooops–I answered your comment Ferd, but the Almighty Spam Filter, being an arbitrary and jealous deity, cast my response into the Lake of Fire. Perhaps someone will retrieve it . . . ?
The All-mighty spam filter is the one against which all others are judged, apparently.
Good evening Ferd! Let the games begin!
I’m sure the spam filter isn’t a Buddhist, Ferd, but happy to hear there are other enlightened ones on nq.
yes, I am not a christian or any other religion but I was really creeped by his assertion that Americans don’t view themselves as a christian, or jewish or muslim nation speech, when plainly this is a christian nation.
If you took the time to research this issue, you might actually come to a different conclusion. Your dogma, however, allows you no other alternative.
I grow weary of the Xtian dogma concerning the founding of this country. Those “Pilgrims” were kicked out of England because the Crown grew weary of their constant demands and expectations. The paternal side of my family has been in this country since one hundred years before the revolution and they were not religious whackos.
mine also & nor mine
I have added a comment to a post below clarifying my statement.
I am not only non-religious, I am anti-religion. I would like to see a world wide end of it.
But if a majority of people in this country like to watch football, then it is a football watching country.
I did not say that legally this is a christian nation according to the Constitution. You are reading into my statement something I did not say, nor intend.
The reason the statement by BHO is to me bothersome, is that he said “Americans do not consider ourselves a Christian nation…” when imo a majority of Americans do consider this a christian nation. I believe he is giving a false statement as to what Americans believe, and I do not believe in creating false impressions about the perception of islam in this country.
I have no use for any freaking pilgrims or talk of framers.
That is all I needed to hear, frankly. I do not follow the religions of the western world not do I condemn them. The simple truth is that I can make no claims in either direction for if I did, I would be no better than they. You have fallen into the trap, to your detriment, for when you deny something, you acknowledge its existence. That one is a politician and a truly sorry one. His minions are as bad, if not worse, but I will only call them on their lies. They can call on “God” until the cows come home to no avail.
I am anti- all religious institutions and ideologies, and most despise all organized religion.
Recognizing that these groups and their ideologies exist is simply factual. What I do not recognize is that any of these religions and their institutions have any truths, that is why I am against them.
I have my own beliefs, I do not require validation from anyone else, much less from any institution. But I have only once ever “seen” any being not from this world: that’s not nearly enough to justify all my beliefs, which come from what I have observed and what ideas of others that I have accepted.
It remains my opinion that probably nothing has been worse for creating a functional sustainable and equitable civilization than religion.
Hate to tell you, but that IS your religion. You failed to acknowledge your own prejudice in this issue. I don’t care much for organized religion but to condemn it out of hand would be to give it more credence than it deserves. I think you are missing my point.
if you want to call my preference for living on a planet that’s not a barren rock my religion, feel free. It’s certainly not a bad start.
I have heard the recognition theory before, I just don’t agree with it.
I would never make a statement that I am without prejudice either.
gone to take care of cats, bbl
Fuk yuen
in Chinese of course
And yuk fu, Japanese characters, of course.
You’ve got to look to the UK Times for actual reporting:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2009/06/03/barack_hussein_obama_us_one_of_the_largest_muslim_countries_in_the_world
Our ’smartest prez evah’ is abominable at math. And reason. And truth. He’s a liar, jerk, user & bully.
“And the impulse towards destruction as opposed to how can we study science and mathematics and restore the incredible scientific and knowledge — the output that came about during centuries of Islamic culture.”
Maybe The Obama needs to go study some math himself… or is he going to do that after he brings about an Islamic renaissance?
HC it looks like Obama confused Arab with Islam. There were great contributions from Arabs in history, but most, if not all, of them occurred before the establishment of Islam five or six hundred years AD.
You’re spot on Elise. Arabs (not Moslems) saved a great deal of the thoughts of early Western Civilization, including those of Plato and Aristotle. Thank you for reminding us of this.
even afterward. Herat Afghanistan was once a great intellectual center. Now its region is where the most women are immolating themselves to avoid forced marriages.
Tell us how you really feel, Sonic!
Just kidding – I agree COMPLETELY.
EXCELLENT post, LisaB – thank you!!!
Well I do believe I will
You’re probably forgetting to include all of those Muslims in the other seven states (”57 states”).
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Castro didn’t tell the world he was communist either, until he had Cuba under his complete control.
Yes, I remember. Jack Paar and the media fawned over Castro like they now are doing with Obama. Then he declared himself Communist and allied himself with Russia.
Ooops!
Ellen, what is that old addage? is it “those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”?
But Castro had white doves land on his shoulders and everything. The ironic part of Russia is now their tax rate for personal income is a flat 13%. Their corporate tax rate is 24% whereas ours is 35%. But at least we are “free”.
for now anyway…
Taxes for thee………..you know the rest.
Ooops is right. Google is your friend, Ellen D. I remembered this history but it was a very, very long time ago but Google is my friend, TOO. Castro was not initially a Communist.He was from Cuba’s populist nationalist tradition. After he threw out the right wing dictator, Batista, his government was for the people of Cuba. This may sound familiar if you think of Iran in 1953, Chile in 1973 and scores of other nations which elected leaders who planned to nationalize the riches of their nations for the benefit of their people. The US, which had originally recognized his government, turned against it and for the interests of the American capitalists. With that, Castro turned to the open arms of the Soviet Union. The rest,as they say, is history. Am I saying that Castro is/was a good guy? Hell no. Allende apparently was. It didn’t save him from Nixon. Mohammad Mosaddeq was legally elected and a moderate. That didn’t save him from the CIA and Eisenhower. And so it has always happened. So, no one can really say if Castro would have been more benevolent than he turned out to be. We do know one thing: The policy of isolating Cuba has been bad for humanity.
Nice clarification on Castro, but my readings put Castro as a socialist and Che as the communist as they planned in Mexico their revolution. Both came from well established bourgeois families. And, yes, Castro wanted to work with the USA until the US turned against him and for survival he sought alliance with the USSR -
James you need a little history lesson yourself. The only American capitalists operating in Cuba were Sam Giancano, Lucky Luciana and some other members of the mob.
Given the nature of Batista and the government of Cuba since around the turn of the 20th century, which was right wing totalitarian dictatorship benefiting the capitalists of the United States and the dictator rather than the people of Cuba, it seems fair to say that Castro had in mind a more socialist society when he took power. This is what he said:
“Our revolution is neither capitalist nor communist! … Capitalism sacrifices the human being, communism with its totalitarian conceptions sacrifices human rights. We agree neither with the one nor with the other … Our revolution is not red but olive green. It bears the colour of the rebel army from the Sierra Maestra”. (Fidel Castro, May 21st. 1959)
As to Elise, who says that I need a history lesson…Google is *your* friend, TOO, dear. American capitalism DOMINATED the Cuban economy extending from the turn of the century until the Cuban revolution and Castro. This is what the Journal of Latin American Studies says: “In 1884, when a collapse in international sugar prices pushed many Cuban sugar mills into bankruptcy, capital from the United States poured into the island, consolidating and modernising the sugar sector. In 1898 Washington’s desire to protect these new economic interests contributed to the decision to intervene in Cuba’s war of independence. The subsequent US occupation of the island tied its economy ever closer to the United States as US military governors promulgated laws giving US firms concessionary access to the Cuban market. (3) By the late 1920s US firms controlled 75 per cent of the sugar industry, and most of the mines, railroads, and public utilities. (4)
The revolution of 1959 was animated in part by a nationalist desire to reduce Cuba’s dependency on the United States”
GOOGLE wasn’t around before and when Castro took the reins of power in Cuba. I was [around] at that time. GOOGLE is a friend of the left. So I have a better understanding of where you are coming from. “heres looking at you kid”
-it seems fair to say that Castro had in mind a more socialist society when he took power.-
what? Background:
-Partido Revolucionario Cubano (Auténtico) {aka Partido Auténtico, PRC} (A): It’s program contained socialist and corporatist elements.
-Eduardo Renato Chibás y Ribas: in his youth Chibás had been a member of the Partido Auténtico. In 1947 he branches out and forms the Partido Ortodoxo (or Partido del Pueblo Cubano)-
-Among the young entrants in the Partido Ortodoxo drawn by the charismatic personality and ideas of Chibás was the lawyer Fidel Castro
Castro did not use the word “socialism” in his speeches until 1961. So, in your mind, he wasn’t a socialist while planning a revolution with Marxist Che and Socialist Youth member Raul (his top advisers).
“Our revolution is neither capitalist nor communist!..”
that’s the anti-imperialist cry of nationalism in Lat. Am. of the left: ni los bolshiviks ni los yanquis.
I am starting to lose respect for anyone who serves in his administration….even hillary……resign hillary, save yourself…dont sit by and let this happen….the clock is ticking
Firstly, let me say I was a HRC supporter and did not vote for Obama in the primary (and didn’t vote for McCain or Obama in the general).
I think the problem with the questioning of Obama’s Muslim background is that *some* people took offense that Obama may have been a Muslim. Not only is that offensive to Muslim Americans (many who have been Americans for generations), but also a rejection of the American value of individuality and personal freedom. Since when do we lump a whole group together? I’m not saying NQ writers were offensive, but you can not deny that many people, who hate Muslims (you quoted jihadwatch!), used these rumors, whether they were true or not, in order to smear Obama by playing to people’s fears and misconceptions. The story got way out of hand.
Your argument is that we were trying to prove Obama is lying and will use his background when he sees it is politically advantageous. During the campaign, obviously it wasn’t advantageous. But since he is going on a Muslim world tour, it is now politically advantageous. That’s a good argument, but for ignorant people, it’s hard to see the distinction between using Islam as a political tool and actually being a Muslim. The latter being a dirty thing you should NOT be.
I could care less that Obama got his feelings hurt, but I do care that many Muslim Americans (many of whom serve in our military) had to watch and read this anti-Islam rubbish in the media and internet. The way the media covered for Obama on the Muslim rumors made it look like you should be ashamed of your faith if you’re Muslim. That’s not America.
The problem with whether or not Obummer is a Muslim, as addressed during the campaign, had little to do with hate. It had to do with honesty and with the candidate telling the truth about himself. In 2006, Minnesota sent a Muslim to the House of Representatives. He took his oath of office on the Koran. He also trounced his competition in the election, winning by almost three times as many votes as his competitors.
Rep. Ellison was also the first African-American to be elected to national office from Minnesota. And there was very little fuss about it, as I recall. It was noted with interest as a first on two fronts, but no one got upset about a Muslim being in the House. The problem with Obummer is not whether or not he is Muslim, but whether or not he is a liar. Given his actions since the election, most of which were contrary to his campaign promises, we can see why he was so upset. He is a liar, and a cheat. Claiming that the questions about his alleged Muslim beliefs were a slur on Islam was a good way of avoiding having to answer questions on other parts of his early life. He used the questions about his background to deflect more questions by claiming religious bias on the part of the questioners. It worked. Now we have a president about whose antecedents we know less than any other president in our history.
I know. I understand the objective was to prove that he was dishonest. My point is that ignorant people who were against Obama could not see that distinction.
As for Rep. Keith, I wish Obama was as honest as him. But also note that there was controversy with him taking the oath on the Quran instead of the Bible.
Prey tell, who are these “ignorant people” you’re referring to with such sweeping generality? Do they also cling to their guns and religion?
On a case by case basis. I don’t group people together.
FL Dem you are SPOT on!
I am tired of the lies, half truths and far fetched stories about his family.
I still wonder why the only one from his past to speak at his nomination by the DNC was his brother-in-law. It boggles the mind.
Although now his great uncle (on his mother’s side) is speaking up and saying how surprised he was that Obama used his (the uncle’s) war experiences, as they had never discussed them.
Guess that’s why he kept changing the story – he freed a concentration camp, event though he was in the navy not the army, etc.
My first reaction was, why didn’t this guy speak up at the time? My second reaction was, why is he doing so now? Did he wait until the public adoration started to subside?
That nasty little habit of revenge is part of Obama’s narcissism – Uncle’s going to get an IRS visit, I think!
Did they deport his illegal and way over her visa Auntie, yet?
NO? We are still footing the bill?
Auntie got an extension (indefinite) on her stay in the USA. As far as can be determined, Auntie will NEVER be deported for ignoring the USA immigration law and will live “happily ever after” in OBAMACountry.
Other poor and probably more deserving souls have been sent packing; but not Auntie. So much for THE RULE OF LAW so important to the PRECIOUS ONE. The RULE OF LAW for BHO is whatever he damn well wants it to be!
Please SAVE US FROM THE ONE!
Wait a minute! I am pretty sure that many, many, many people who voted for Obama were some of the most ignorant people I know!!!
So it seems to me that he didn’t want ignorant people to know his middle name and assume he was/is Muslin because he KNEW ignorant people were his base and might change their minds about voting for him.
Diana I am sure they were basking in ignorance when they clicked the box.
But had the MSM done their job instead of throwing Obie on a pedestal we may have had a different outcome.
As it is now barry is assuredly hoisting himself on his own petard. fingers crossed
“The problem with Obummer is not whether or not he is Muslim, but whether or not he is a liar.”
And I think the concern about his being a liar wasn’t just about the Muslim thing, but about his whole religious narrative. All those things Rev. Wright said, but Obama, even while first saying he went every week, all of a sudden realized that he was absent every Sunday that Wright did that stuff. Plus there was a long period before Wright’s church in which he had no church allegiance at all.
So, religion has really seemed to be (and continues to be) a political tool for him. Personally, I suspect he’s an atheist. Which I don’t care about, but I really, really don’t like (what I suspect are) lies about his “faith” – Muslim, Christian, or none…
So you lump every one who is not on board with your master in the same boat.
1. I am not ignorant but you may be.
2. That distinction lacks any substantive difference.
3. Do you want to take me on, troll?
Didn’t vote for Obama. I stand by my statement. Ignorant people had a problem with Obama possibly being Muslim.
Rep. Ellison was also the first African-American to be elected to national office from Minnesota. And there was very little fuss about it, as I recall. It was noted with interest as a first on two fronts, but no one got upset about a Muslim being in the House.
If you couldn’t tell from my name, I’m from Minnesota. This comment is flat out wrong.
There was huge “fuss” over Ellison being black. This isn’t the South, but it was a big deal, and was a big part of his appeal to his base. His district, metro Minneapolis, is a deep deep blue area, so comparing his votes to the Republican and Reform candidates is pointless — they couldn’t win, period. The real action was in the primary, and his race and religion were at issue then.
And, there were tons of people who absolutely were extremely upset about a Muslim being in the US House. There is an active and healthy right-wing up here (Michelle Bachmann, anyone?!) and they hammered on for months about terrorism and CAIR and sharia and all the rest. Those folks were furious that he would take his oath on a Koran (even to the point of thinking it would be illegal to do so, misunderstanding that the “oath” is just a ceremony for the cameras, and the official swearing-in involves the same non-religious pledge to protect the constitution that EVERY other elected official takes.)
His oath became heavily politicized, and he ended up taking it on a Koran owned by Thomas Jefferson, as an act of patriotism and as a big FU to his political enemies back home. Well done, in my opinion.
Don’t downplay the controversy of Ellison’s religion to make a point about Obama, it was a huge deal.
I am soooooo tired of such references to “the South.” Please. We’ve got all kinds of AA politicians at every level and we’re hardly a racist monolith.
In fact, folks might want to read:
Sweet Land of Liberty: The Forgotten Struggle for Civil Rights in the North
by Thomas J. Sugrue.
bart:
If you ignore the non-south trolls, they do give up. I’ve lived all over this country and have found the south to be much less racist than say, the West Coast or East Coast. I’m quite happy being back in East Tennessee (Harriman) after a long stint on Washington State. The racism is minimal.
Harriman? I grew up in Rhea co and attended UT – C and K.
LisaB:
I’m in the Cornstalk Heights district of Harriman. I love the place–it is like Mayberry.
Used to drive through until I could pick up 40 closer to home (Dayton). Don’t know that district of Harriman though. I only ever saw the main drag on (I think) 27.
Unless there’s more than one Harriman in TN?
-he ended up taking it on a Koran owned by Thomas Jefferson-
politically brilliant for sure.
His was a defensive campaign both on his race and his Muslim heritage — hiding things from the electorate to flat out lying to and bullying of questioners, detractors, and dissenters (all of whom are essential for a well functioning democracy). I wonder if the world would have understood America better and appreciated it more if it was allowed to show its natural tolerance and generosity (which I think is very much there) in electing him with a normal/healthy democratic process (that is, without him resorting to all his chicanery to get elected). But then again, he probably knew he would not have survived such an examination not because the American electorate is inflexible and close minded but more because in reality there is no there with him.
In his April 6 address to the Turkish Parliament, Obama said “Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim majority country. I know, because I am one of them.”
A few weeks back, Obama said America is not a Christian nation.
America is not a Christian nation. It may be a nation with a lot of Christians, but last time I checked, the First Amendment was still in effect. Try this: http://tinyurl.com/r2p2os
Then neither is America a Muslim nation. It’s secular with a vast majority of citizens claiming to be either Christian or non-denominational.
That’s the historical heritage of America, founded and settled by pilgrims who identified themselves as Christians.
But really the point is that Obama uses whatever he thinks will be to his advantage. So now it’s his middle name is okay since he’s going to visit muslim nations. Before, it wasn’t okay to use his middle name because it would scare the Christians in the USA.
Conclusion: Obama is nothing more than a talking head political azzhat.
Disingenuous is an adjective that comes into play here.
Jason didn’t say America is a Muslim nation. His point was very clear. He even gave a link to the first amendment.
But, it did clear up any misconception in regards to Obama, in his April 6th address to the Turkish Parliament, saying that many in America had muslims in their families, now didn’t it?
Re-read HARP’s comment above.
You need to be more clear. Because Obama said there are Muslims in America (shock!), he’s saying America is a Muslim nation? He specifically said America is neither a Christian, Jewish, or Muslim nation.
You need to go to www. adherents.com and do some research.
By the way, I’m not here to serve you. If you don’t like my comments, move on.
You’re sounding like an obot in disguise.
No one is forcing you to respond. Don’t like my comments? Don’t read them.
I’ll say the same to you. Do not respond.
Let us all know when you head become visible again.
Let’s make sure there is no room for interpretation.
Let us all know when your head becomes visible again.
Oh. If he doesn’t like your comments, he should move on? When did you get the rights to the lock and key on this blog. if he doesn’t like your comments, he can comment back, as he did. I don’t like THAT comment and I said so. What would you like to do about it, tell me to move on too? You are so married to Obama being a Muslim that you can’t see for your rage. Get over it. If anything, the guy is almost certainly not religious at all but show us a politician who has the luxery of not having his religious preferences paraded. Look here up above. One of your acolytes bitched about Michele not accompanying him to Muslim nations…The next one opined that it was because she couldn’t show off her body. You people are disgusting.
I put this below, but it goes here as well:
No. It’s not that simple. Sure, these folks recognized the Repub machine that perpetrated the worst smears against the Clintons could not be put into motion over BO’s name. In other words, political dirty tricks would backfire.
But that should never have precluded any and all discussion about the man and his name. It should never have been suggested that to whisper the name would be proof of bad intention on the part of ANYONE.
Instead, use of BHO’s full name became proof, in itself, of racism, smear-mongering or low intellect.
That was/is heavy-handed, distrustful of people whose intentions might be neutral and against the notion of free speech, IMO.
It was designed to shut down speech. Period.
Then why do you hang about such low-life in your most not so humble opinion?
It is called free speech and that includes the right to ask someone to move on. Gibbs does it all the time. Obot double standards are in play again, is that it?
“You are so married to Obama being a Muslim that you can’t see for your rage.”
Since when did you graduate from Ms Cleo’s school of Phony Psychics?
Please, spare us your tomes of vitriol. The only one raging here is you, James.
Miss Cleo!!!
Or how about Bob Herbert? He sees penises about Obama everywhere.
Is it a German monument? NO!! It’s a plot to draw attention to Obama’s penis and scare the white people!!!
Bwaaahhaaaaaaahhhhhaa.
They still let Bob Herbert near a computer, huh?
Yes, that part is dead on. His pastor of twenty years said “he does what politicians do”. He ought to know, and we ought to have listened. He is a politician’s politician, an Alinsky disciple who took the pebble from his master’s hand and became something the master could only dream of himself. Hedonistic narcissistic ambition in it’s purest form. Like an ebola virus with a contagious smile.
Alinsky. There’s some nasty karma.
I do think that Obama also sat at the knee of Frank Marshall Davis, too. (could be he was really Barack’s daddy)
We have a running joke in our house about what you’ll come back as to right the karma you are garnering in this lifetime.
I think Obama will come back as a woman who will spend most of her life as a political prisoner in very cold cell with no access to arugula.
Actually that’s the clean version.
According to your logic America is not a democracy because there are communists here——-
It’s a secular nation inhabited by a majority of people who call themselves Christian. Not to be confused with real Christians.
Ver nice, MrMike.
Very VERY nice Mr. Mike. As true a statement as has ever been made. Congrats.
America is not a christian nation. Read the Constitution. No, really.
This is sort of a loaded argument.
I am not a Christian, but I have no problem saying America’s cultural heritage and foundation is primarily european and christian – specifically protestant. Any early jewish influence would be a european jewish influence, heavily influenced by european christian practices (like having one wife). Not for instance the culture of Ethiopian jews, which can be quite different. Islam is a spinoff of middle eastern judaism, so I dont think it had much influence on the framers of the constitution either.
So I personally think its fair to say America has a christian, european cultural heritage.
Our founding fathers were wise enough to disallow a state religion, and we still dont have one.
Unless of course you count Obamaism as one.
yes this is what I also meant when I said this was a christian nation. I am not suggesting that one religion is necessarily more palatable over another nor that we make christianity the official national religion or any crazy talk like that; only that a majority of americans are self-identified as christians. If that ever changes to the point that some other religion is plainly the dominant religion, I would say we are a [the new dominant religion] nation.
Kind of like we are a cheeseburger eating nation. Not every one eats cheeseburgers, but in the main ya don’t have to drive very far to find a place to get one. Not every comment needs to be held up against the Constitution for verification.
Is it not amazing that during the primaries if you ever dared to mention one word that Obama is connected to Islam you were either banned from a site, your posted delete or draw the wrath of others that wanted to ban you for life.
Now here we have Obama flying off to Cario to address the Muslim world, now we are hearing how close he is to Islam, how its not a bad thing that our President has Muslim roots, and the name Hussein should be praised and accepted.This has to be the biggest con jobs put over on the American public.
“Now here we have Obama flying off to Cario to address the Muslim world, now we are hearing how close he is to Islam, how its not a bad thing that our President has Muslim roots, and the name Hussein should be praised and accepted”
Sort of makes you wonder what the next “step” in admissions will be, the next stage of “honesty”…
I really, really don’t like this guy. I don’t know how to get over so many people thinking it was okay, even good, to elect someone who was a mystery…
“I don’t know how to get over so many people thinking it was okay, even good, to elect someone who was a mystery…”
Ha! I’m going to comment on my own comment! There are people with unhealthy boundaries who will trust anybody when they first meet them – and they often get hurt. A healthier person, one with better boundaries, waits until the person has “earned” trust, until they know something about them.
With Obama, all these people “trusted” him with his “blank slate” – which I think is now hurting many of them, as they see him breaking his promises. In religion, people believe and trust without proof, and that’s part of the deal, they’re told that’s what they are supposed to do, that it means something special about them that they believe even without proof.
At first I was thinking this was irrelevant to my point, but as someone above mentioned, Obama is like a religion, “Obamaism” – and his followers/cult, were happy to believe without any evidence, experience, or knowledge of the guy.
“I don’t know how to get over so many people thinking it was okay, even good, to elect someone who was a mystery…”
it’s a great comment!
He still is a mystery really.
This is why the Spamalot moniker is so apt for Obama, since Spam has always been mystery meat.
There is no mystery about Spam. The company that makes it claims to use every part of the pig except the squeal. The parts usually deemed inedible are what go into Spam. So even though it’s not really a mystery meat, it still applies to Obummer. Unpalatable parts squashed into a saleable form. Yup, sounds just like him!!
one of the largest Muslim countries!! What is he smoking, indeed.
He must mean the U.S. is a large country. You know, like Iran is tiny.
he just reads the words on totus.he doesn’t listen to them..
he is to busy waiting for the applause..
lol. Yeah, I’d love to see him be made to take a pop quiz after one of his own speeches to see how much he even remembers, let alone understands.
And if I were rich, I’d pay big money to have someone ask him about this discrepancy in what someone is allowed to say about his “Muslim roots” or Muslim name… The arrogant jerk would probably just out and out say it was politics…
No, he would say it was due to the bigotry of the American people against Muslims. He never misses a chance to put us down as a nation. See, that way he can claim to have elevated the tone of the national conversation by his mere presence in office. Then he would apologize for our narrow-mindedness and promise to make us see the light, whether we like it or not. Sort of like Meechelle saying he was going to put us to work. Which given the number of jobs lost since he took office is rather ironic, to say the least.
I’m beginning to think Obama is in Emperor with NO clothes mode. He’s only deluding himself into thinking this charade of his is still working.
Will this end up being worse than Jimmy Carter?
With a fawning press and unthinking supporters, he can continue his image campaign as long as he wants.
Rasmussen’s Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: Posted I hour ago, June 03, 2009
34% strongly agree that Obama is doing a good job. The downward trend of Obama’s absolute popularity since Jan, 09 is perhaps the best indicator of how this is all going for dear leader. 31% are on the other extreme. 55% at least somewhat think Obama is doing a good job. The reality is he’s not historically doing any better than past presidents.
Eventually – well actually it’s beginning now – the press will have to reverse it’s course to stay viable in the discussion of Obama.
Jimmy Carter is a devout Christian, and through everything I believe he really meant well. I just think he was in over his head. I think Obama is in over his head. Note the disparity. Yes, I believe this will be different, if not much worse.
I agree. I too think Carter is a genuine good person at heart–he was/is? just a little confused.
In the end, what more can we expect from our President, except to do that which he feels is right? I think Carter did that. In the past, I have been harsher in evaluating him. With age and wisdom, I have come to see that which was good in what we had then, and the good that was in him. He was in over his head though.
There is an old proverb in–GASP!–Of all places, the Christian Bible!! It [the proverb] goes like this “A fool judges a matter before he considers it”. Another quote from that same book is “The beginning of WISDOM is the fear of God”. And yes I agree with you again, sometimes “Wisdom” comes with ageing. Some would say that is one of the perks of growing old.
Carter suffers from serious CDS, as demonstrated by his outrageous refusal to shake President Clinton’s hand at a receiving line (of former Presidents) during one of the inaugural celebrations. Even the Bushes were taken aback by such uncouth behavior, as demonstrated by Barbara Bush consoling Bill after Carter’s egregious snub.
I used to hold Carter in high esteem for his sincerity, charity work, etc. Now all I see is a petty little man who gave us exorbitantly high interest rates in the 70s and a disastrous foreign policy that led to the Iranian hostage crisis — all of which set the stage for a Reagan Presidency and the ensuing horrible 80s decade.
“In the end, what more can we expect from our President, except to do that which he feels is right?”
I expect him to do what I feel is right. It’s not working too well, lol.
Nom I would add to that he do what is right for our country. So far I am not impressed.
Jimmy Carter is a good person. He was just a bad President.
so true.now he is just an old man.
Yes, I also thought that Jimmy Carter meant well. Obama is just well he meant to say… Big difference.
Jimmy at least had some executive office experience. But, in the end it didn’t save him.
If only this could be 1976 again. I remember seeing the Freedom Train, it went right past the folks ranch. It seems like such a long time ago, but it was like yesterday. We have fallen so far.
docelder, i used to respect carter for his piety and good works. now i lump him with the rest of the sellouts who dissed hillary. the mighty have fallen it seems.
Yeah, Carter turned out to be a huge disappointment in that context. I remember being quite shocked at his actions.
As I said, Carter has shown himself to be a very petty man with regard to Bill Clinton and his presidency.
At least Obama is consistent with his inconsistency.
Hmmm…wondering aloud if once again Obama mis-read the actual numbers scrolling across his blankie (teleprompter)…isn’t this the same person that once claimed the United States of America had 57 states?!
Yeah, he also thinks that the Great Lakes are in Oregon. Which is funny coming from someone who is from Chicago, which is actually ON one of the Great Lakes, Lake Michigan. The 57 states thing came from, I think, the 57 Muslim states in the world. Funny how he confused them, isn’t it? Well, now that he is president, he can go visit each and every one of the 57 Muslim states. At our expense, of course.
What’s new? Says one thing/does another, says one thing/says another. It’s his MO and unfortunately this is what we get for 4/8 more years.
3.5 years/7.5 years
But who is counting?
He has no intention of ever leaving. I hope people realize that.
A lot of people said that about Bush, too, though. I think both of them are inherently too lazy to stay president forever. And with Obama, he really, really needs that adoration and fawning. It has hit its peak, though, and a lot of people have realized what fools they were. I really think he’s going to lose interest eventually, because the level of fawning will continue to drop.
Doesn’t backtrack have to say he is still Muslim when he is in a Muslim state because if you are born Muslim and leave the religion there is a death penalty?
Backtrack needs no excuse to flip-flop he does it every hour of every day.
He is the only selected president in my lifetime that knows so little about America and has such contempt for this countries values.
I can picture him standing there clapping while the mobs wave rifles and shout ” Death to America”
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS and those people rule
Seems there is a clause in their Islamic, at least for some of them, religion that authorizes lieing so long as they do it [lie] in their service to Allah. Whatever.
Good one, HelenK. Barry Barack Hussein Obama (maybe really Davis or Dunham) Soetoro Obama needs to be muslim in certain instances.
BIRTH CERT , WHERE IS IT?
The BC is in the Akashic Records. Oh, yeah. Look it up.
http://www.crystalinks.com
Why have I not yet seen the announcement of a book by a prominent journalist, titled:
President Tells Big-Fat Lies
Question for fellow bloggers: What is it when you say something that is not, in point of fact, true? I’d always called it something but that word seems to be off the list now (unless applied to Bill Clinton, of course).
Some seem to think the words Politically Correct may be the definition. All liars are not politicians but obviously all politicians are liars.
LisaB, excellent and you might want to look at Brian Williams Bowing to the Usurper in the White House as well….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLYtHHxTTmc
Free Press? Nah…. Ass kissing NBC is more like it.
In Obama’s world the lies are only “slight inaccuracies”.
Case in point: I barely knew William Ayers – oh wait, Uh, uh, uh I guess he did hold a fund raiser to help launch my career!
Case in point: I never heard Rev. Wright say anything disparaging against America. Oh wait, maybe I did since I attended his church for 20 years. But I didn’t listen but, yeah, I did donate a shyt load of money!
Case in point: I am a natural born citizen, qualified to be president of the United States, buuuuut, you can’t see ANY of my records to prove that.
Truth and Barack don’t often collide into each other it seems.
Remember the “WORM”? WHAT OBAMA REALLY MEANT?
ME TEACHER….ME!!!….I know the answer!!!…It is when it *isn’t* meant as a smear…..Don’t I get an A+ and a gold star!!!?????
As you (damn well) know, it OFTEN *WAS* meant as a smear during the campaign and sometimes is NOW, like when the dolts here who are so desirous of making him a Muslim and not born in the United States, use it…that along with “messiah,” and “the chosen one…..” You know, kind of like when the ignorant ones call the Democratic Party the “Democrat” Party.
Oh…and do you know what else? Yeah…., if his root ties to Islam can be used to help our nation remove some of the stain that the xenophobic people in this country who refer to Muslims as “rag heads,” and advocate for crusades and for killing all of them……if his agnostic but Muslim father can be used to make us closer to the Muslim people of the world…..so much the better for us ALL,all the world, “don’tcha think?” So, what’s your beer?
This is how we know you keyboard is orange.
“your” so you can save the wear on your red sharpie. Sometimes I hit the add button without proofreading my typing. I guess to everybody who has orange dust in between their keys, this is a sign of ignorance. But, I think much has been written elsewhere about the informality of electronic messaging as opposed to traditional messaging.
You sound as if Obama chose you to be the official apologizer while he is away and very busilly bowing to that king you refer to as “raghead”. “When is Hussein not a smear”? Probabely when he was just yet a twinkle in his old communist Arabic father’s eye.
SHALOM–bros.
How do we know his father was Agnostic? Did he register himself as that somewhere and I missed it?
Yeah right, he was afraid of a little smear from “ignorant” and “Xenophobic” people while he smeared much of the country racist.
You know, people like you and him are playing a dangerous game. In praising and supposedly bringing yourself closer to the so called Muslim world, you are exaggerating the xenophobic tendencies, real or imagined of your own people. Exactly the kind of thing the Islamic terrorists wanted happen. They want you to acknowledge the existence of a (currently nonexistent) coherent Muslim group/world so they can dominate it at some point. Imagine if we can relegate those terrorists to the small and insignificant beings/group they are and encourage every country, Muslim or not to confront this security threat without the religious context but through dialog and policies, then where would the terrorists be? 0bama with his speeches only to Muslim audiences is helping terrorists agenda. They are laughing their asses off at 0bama dividing the world as Muslim and non-Muslim (even as he thinks he does it with the intention of reaching out to everyday Muslims — but where is the need for reaching out? What did Muslims do wrong? what did we do wrong to ordinary Muslims?).
Using his Muslim background,to whatever degree he has a Muslim background, to placate hatred toward the US and all things western from Islamic extremists is simplistic. The extreme fundamentalist movement is over 60 years in the making, it has an agenda and unless Obama can part the sea, as was alluded to during the primaries, he’s going to convince none of them. Of course, the attempt is to target the moderates and try to dissuade any from cross over to the extremist’s camp. But, it is going to take a whole lot more than just Obama’s bowing and propagating his Muslim background and making comments like Am. is a Muslim nation.
The number one issue is the Israel/Palestine dilemma.
rw, obama can’t bow deep enough or apologize enough to turn anything around. he is making a fool out of himself and thus the rest of us.
By (incorrectly) saying that we’re a Muslim nation, there could be a tragic result – we could now all be targeted because many (most) of us aren’t being “good Muslims”.
James G.
Why are you such an explainer for Obozo. He does not need you to do that. He has plenty of kow-towers who get paid to defend him at every opportunity. Or are you on his payroll too?
“…if his agnostic but Muslim father can be used to make us closer to the Muslim people of the world…..so much the better for us ALL,all the world, ‘don’tcha think?’”–James Guglielmino
Hell no. Not interested in the USA getting closer to such woman-hating cultures. Not interested in wearing a blanket over my head all day while the men take turns throwing acid on our faces for going to school, before they behead us for saying no to marital-rape.
ka-ching.
What NomNomNom saidsaidsaid
WTF? You do understand the woman abuse is concentrated in tribal regions where they lived the same way for thousands of years? It isn’t mainstream. Go to Beirut, Lebanon or Dubai, UAE. You think you’re going to see that kind of shit?
Um, would Saudi Arabia be considered a tribal region? Women may not drive there, they may not speak to a man they are not related to, they may not go out of the house without being escorted by a male relative, etc. etc. Women in Saudi Arabia are still stoned to death for adultery, even if the “adultery” was because of rape. The head of the Saudi state, King Abdullah, refuses to change any of that. And our president not only has nothing to say about that situation, he actually bows deeply to that very King. Just because a few states that do a lot of business with the West choose to not go that route doesn’t mean it’s the norm for Muslim countries. You have named three, Lebanon, UAE, and Dubai out of 57 Muslim states. Care to comment on the condition of women in the other 54??
Good response, Kat!
Yeah, we’re getting a visit from the Grand Poobah Cheeto, himself. I expect his posts to show up in orange next.
LOL!
obama the people’s prince of change….. problem is we don’t know what the hell that change is until its up in our faces.
I saw video of MO & BO in church a while back, and they did not open their mouth to reciept The Lord’s Prayer. I even wrote Hannity about it, but nothing.
Thank you Lisa for a well written article.
Great piece, Lisa B.
I remember all of that so well–how there were almost witch hunts for anyone mentioning his middle name. It was eerie.
Yes, they even had a term for it… they called it “Husseinization”.
And now it’s America, claimed by the President to be one of the largest Muslim nations, that is being Husseinized.
At one point it was strongly cautioned against or banned here at NQ, was it not?
Never has a candidate’s, now GROAN! president, image been such a fragile precious thing!
Now, where are those counter thingys that tell how many more days dear leader has in office? I need one.
strange.other potuses from day one have been made fun of and ridiculed.until this one.
no one dares say anything bad about bo.
At one point on another blog I just lost it. I typed the name Hussein over and over and dared anyone to say anything.
It is the man’s middle name. How is that a smear?
If his middle name was “Harry” and people kept saying “Hussein” that’s a smear.
Funny, Obama didn’t mind using his middle name at his swearing in. But I guess that’s different.
I always found it completely bizarre that we were basically forbidden from using his given name. If he didn’t like his name, why didn’t he legally change it? At the same time, people didn’t have a problem making fun of McCain’s middle name.
yes wonder why he never spent money with a lawyer to get rid of the middle name….seems like a good hobby
JustMe, ya think he was looking to be accepted in his mosque in Indonesia?
BO is a “tag along” and seeks affirmation in the most bizarre fashion.
Hell, even the bigger kids in the hood where he lived in Indonesian, through him in the “creek” (read sewer ditch) for his lonleyness. \
Imagine running home to “mama” stinking so bad he could make a rat have a fainting spell.
Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,Hussein,
Hey Candymarl, that feels good…like bare feet on new carpet.
I like to play word games, and I had a lot of fun with Obummer’s name, and initials. Anyone look at the connotation of his initials when spoken as words? B HO. Pretty much says it all for me. Heh.
I never liked Hussein and I never will. He’s disgusting.
While it is a fact that his middle name is Hussein, it was obvious to any thinking person that the use and emphasis of his middle name by his critics during the campaign was, in fact, intended as a smear to associate him with Saddam Hussein and/or the Muslim faith. As you point out, even KARL ROVE and JOHN MCCAIN recognized this. Duh.
No. It’s not that simple. Sure, these folks recognized the Repub machine that perpetrated the worst smears against the Clintons could not be put into motion over BO’s name. In other words, political dirty tricks would backfire.
But that should never have precluded any and all discussion about the man and his name. It should never have been suggested that to whisper the name would be proof of bad intention on the part of ANYONE.
Instead, use of BHO’s full name became proof, in itself, of racism, smear-mongering or low intellect.
That was/is heavy-handed, distrustful of people whose intentions might be neutral and against the notion of free speech, IMO.
It was designed to shut down speech. Period.
Those who used Obama’s middle name as a smear and claimed to be ‘neutral’ in doing do (ie. Ann Coulter) were simply lying.
Given that, with the exception of his swearing-in, Obama rarely referenced his middle name himself, the constant mention of his middle name was almost the exclusive purview of the smear mongers who sought to brand Obama as an ‘exotic’, a Muslim, or a terrorist.
Lastly, the constitution’s guarantee of ‘free speech’ pertains to the government not being allowed to curtail one’s speech. Last I checked, you could say the words ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ until you turned blue in the face. I never felt intimidated by anyone in my desire to call the candidate/president whatever I wanted. The smear-mongers were rightly called out for their despicable tactic.
Ann Coulter? Ann Coulter is the reason people were labeled racist for using B H O? Seriously? Ann Coulter makes a living being outrageous. She’s hardly an example of what an ordinary person might mean by uttering “Hussein.”
So, because of Ann Coulter, anyone at all drawing attention to Obama’s middle name was a bad seed.
That’s an ad hominem attack. Not justifiable.
What is his middle name, Goob?
HUSSEIN.
Enough said, troll. It is his and he owns it.
I may market a new bumper sticker…….
Where is Barry Soetoro?
Congratulations, you are aware of the president’s middle name. Want a cookie?
Since Obama is President how is it that we no longer get update on the war going on in Iraq or Afghanistan, am I to take it that we have not reached a stage where there are no American troops getting injured?
Not that I am wishing our troops harm but I do find it strange that the media seems to be silent on anything going on over there be it good or bad, guess the Muslim terrorist are now using rubber bullets and paint guns, and Obama is making a dent in the Muslim world and how they view America.
SJ, that same thought has crossed my mind. Reporting on the war and the ongoing troop surge in Afghanistan has dropped off the msm radar.
Oh, but the msm make sure they distract us with the Rightwing boogeymen — Limbaugh and Hannity.
That be the church of “riding dirty”
**some pelvic pushes***
ROFL Animal Control……. Good one!
Okay, I didn’t want to be the first. Thanks for running point on that one PKJayne. LOL!
Absolutely Kat. I have no desire to lessen my country’s standards to make another ideology or culture seem more acceptable.
That’s just some real twisted unicorn thinking to think that Obama would unite the world with an alleged muslim father in his background. I say alleged because we don’t really know who his father is.
he is spending tons of money to keep that hidden..
OT – did you guys hear that Hillary is going to be on Greta Sustern’s show tomorrow (Thurs) night? I think Greta went to Egypt with the Magical Mystery Tour.
lorac thank you for the heads up on that!
Was I the only other one besides Fox media that found it strange that Obama has not made any comment yet on the shooting of a draft board recruiter by a muslim extremist.
It was almost instaneously after the abortion Dr was killed that a comment from Obama and the WH was issued.
Could someone rescue my comment from the spam filter. I think Americans deserve to know that their president posted publicaly the location and maps to all our secret nuclear weapons, where we store the fuel for them, etc online.
That is publicly, I’m so angry, this was no accident. No one could convince me in a million years it was.
OMG! And they’re referring to this: as an embarrassing snafu?? A one-step guide to anyone wanting to know about our nuclear sites. Posted on the Internet.
We’ll be lucky to survive the next 4 years at this rate.
Where are the damn grownups?
Who is the closest person conceivable to equal Ronald Reagan? We need that person primed and on our short list. This is going to go downhill really, really fast I am afraid. So who is it? Newt Gingrich?
Yeah, imaging posting on the internet sensitive government info on our nuclear sites! It gives me the chills to think that Obama, like, Bush might want his very own Pearl Harbor.
IS THIS WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO?
A “sensitive” government report divulging a host of information about nuclear sites and programs was accidentally made public, The Wall Street Journal.
The Obama administration insisted the document didn’t jeopardize national security.
The report — posted last month on the Web site of the Government Printing Office — contained maps of facilities showing locations where stockpiles of fuel for nuclear weapons are kept. It was off the site last night.
Nuclear facilities listed included labs at Oak Ridge, Los Alamos, Argonne in Illinois and a Westinghouse research facility in Pittsburgh.
This is just a reach, but IF we needed to move those stockpiles in an emergency manner… who would do it? and where would they take them? and would those stockpiles then be secure? Let’s leave no stone uncovered here. Something is not right, if that is not just an understatement.
[...] The Muslim hatred still continues at NoQuarter. [...]
According to Obama, America is not a Christian country. But we could be “considered to be” a Muslim country.
When is America going to stand up and call out our President on his slavish (oh, no! Can I use that word?) adherence to political correctness at the expense of any semblance of truth.
I don’t know why, Lisa, but I just have the urge to cut and paste. This is Hardball and Roger Simon on the very last Sixty Minutes I ever watched. Many things angered me in 2008, but the interview Hillary did with Steve Kroft on Sixty Minutes just hours before the Ohio primary and the manic response of the media after still has the power fill me with rage. That’s not a feeling I like, but I do think this pertains to the discussion. First, everyone should realize America is a secular nation. It’s what the founders (several of whom were not Christians) intended and it is that which has made it a great country. I would like one person to show me one example of a successful and democratic theocracy.
I have my own idea about why Obama continues to make really, really stupid statements. He has spent his entire life as an adult “sucking up” (please excuse the expression) to anyone who can help HIM reach HIS goals. He has assumed, correctly, Europe will continue it’s alliance with the US, but he has found himself in a place where he feels he must live up to expectations (his ego demands it) and the only way he has ever accomplished anything has been his ability to con others. His experience was limited to Chicago, where he had a lot of help and he is now under the illusion this method will work with hard boiled leaders across the world who, for good or bad, have had to learn the way of the world through experience. He has already found himself the butt of jokes because they know how empty he is.
SUMMARY: On Hardball, the Politico’s Roger Simon falsely suggested that “the last thing [Sen. Hillary Clinton] said” during a recent interview on 60 Minutes when asked whether she believed Sen. Barack Obama is a Muslim was: “No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.” In fact, Clinton went on to say, “I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors. I have a great deal of sympathy for anybody who gets … smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time.” In his column, Simon wrote of Clinton’s “as far as I know” comment, “Doesn’t that just continue a smear?”
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Maybe the link I provided got my comment thrown off, but it really isn’t needed since everyone on nq must remember the interview Hillary did with Steve Kroft hours before the Ohio primary and the media storm following. It was the last time I ever watched Sixty Minutes. Kroft asked her five or more times if she believed Obama was Muslim and she answered “NO” every time. Why did he ask the question and why wasn’t one answer good enough for him?
IMO Obama makes really, really stupid comments to pander. It’s worked for him all his adult life, but now he is the butt of jokes from real leaders, good and bad, who have obtained their position by virtue of their experience. He knows it isn’t necessary with European countries since they are firm allies, but with the marginally important countries in the rest of the world, he doesn’t find the easy acceptance so he reverts to what has worked in the past: Sucking up.
The United States of American is a secular nation. Why does anyone have trouble understanding we are not Christian, Muslim or Jewish? The “Father” of our country, George Washington was a Freemason and though Jefferson was raised Episcopalian, in his adult life he was a Deist. The greatest care was taken by Jefferson and others to make it clear this was not going to be a theocracy. The intention was to keep the state (government) separate from any church. Secularism is what has protected protected our democracy and I defy anyone to give me an example of any theocracy ever to be democratic. It is a dichotomy and Americans need to decide if they want to be free or live under a government which imposes religious beliefs. There isn’t any middle ground.
Sorry Lisa, I posted my comment again. Thank you.
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