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	<title>Comments on: Walter and Gwen Meyers, Treason-Lite</title>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1216166</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting &lt;strong&gt;update&lt;/strong&gt; at cq: possible that Gwendolyn Myers had access to sensitive material
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2009/06/cuba-spies-riggs-bank-had-more.html#more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting <strong>update</strong> at cq: possible that Gwendolyn Myers had access to sensitive material<br />
<a href="http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2009/06/cuba-spies-riggs-bank-had-more.html#more" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2009/06/cuba-spies-riggs-bank-had-more.html#more</a></p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215209</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to really hate this spam filter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to really hate this spam filter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215208</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a couple articles I found on Castro&#039;s comments.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Fidel Castro calls U.S. spy case ridiculous
Sat Jun 6, 2009 10:02pm EDT  

By Tom Brown
HAVANA (Reuters) - Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro on Saturday called charges that a former U.S. State Department official and his wife spied for the Cuban government for nearly 30 years &quot;ridiculous&quot; and described the case as an &quot;espionage comic strip.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For Complete Story:
http://tinyurl.com/p56hfo


&lt;blockquote&gt;Castro questions timing of Cuban spy arrests  
 
Jun 6 09:01 PM US/Eastern
By ANITA SNOW

HAVANA (AP) - Fidel Castro called the case of two Americans accused of spying for Cuba &quot;strange&quot; Saturday and questioned whether the timing of their arrests was politically motivated.
 
In an essay read by a newscaster on state television, the former Cuban leader noted that the retired Washington couple were taken into custody just 24 hours after the Organization of American States voted to lift a decades-old suspension of Cuba&#039;s membership in that group. 

Though the U.S. ultimately supported the OAS vote Wednesday, the administration of President Barack Obama initially wanted to see more democratic reforms on the communist island before Cuba was readmitted. 

Castro called the OAS vote &quot;a defeat for United States diplomacy.&quot; 

Walter Kendall Myers and his wife, Gwendolyn, were arrested Thursday in Washington after a three-year investigation that began before Myers&#039; retirement from the State Department in 2007. 

The U.S. government says they had been spying for Havana for 30 years, recruited by Cuba after a 1978 trip there. Myers received his orders by Morse code, and he and his wife usually hand-delivered intelligence, sometimes by exchanging carts in a grocery store, according to court documents. 

&quot;Doesn&#039;t the story of Cuban spying seem really ridiculous to everyone?&quot; Castro asked, without commenting on its validity. 

Myers had been under suspicion since 1995 and FBI investigation since 2006. If the couple had been watched that long, &quot;why were they not arrested before?&quot; Castro asked. Court documents say the two were such valued spies, they once had a four-hour meeting with Castro, whom Myers described as one of the great modern political leaders. 

Castro said he doesn&#039;t recall meeting them when he was still president. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
For Complete Story:
http://tinyurl.com/otnjsy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a couple articles I found on Castro&#8217;s comments.</p>
<blockquote><p>Fidel Castro calls U.S. spy case ridiculous<br />
Sat Jun 6, 2009 10:02pm EDT  </p>
<p>By Tom Brown<br />
HAVANA (Reuters) &#8211; Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro on Saturday called charges that a former U.S. State Department official and his wife spied for the Cuban government for nearly 30 years &#8220;ridiculous&#8221; and described the case as an &#8220;espionage comic strip.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>For Complete Story:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/p56hfo" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/p56hfo</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Castro questions timing of Cuban spy arrests  </p>
<p>Jun 6 09:01 PM US/Eastern<br />
By ANITA SNOW</p>
<p>HAVANA (AP) &#8211; Fidel Castro called the case of two Americans accused of spying for Cuba &#8220;strange&#8221; Saturday and questioned whether the timing of their arrests was politically motivated.</p>
<p>In an essay read by a newscaster on state television, the former Cuban leader noted that the retired Washington couple were taken into custody just 24 hours after the Organization of American States voted to lift a decades-old suspension of Cuba&#8217;s membership in that group. </p>
<p>Though the U.S. ultimately supported the OAS vote Wednesday, the administration of President Barack Obama initially wanted to see more democratic reforms on the communist island before Cuba was readmitted. </p>
<p>Castro called the OAS vote &#8220;a defeat for United States diplomacy.&#8221; </p>
<p>Walter Kendall Myers and his wife, Gwendolyn, were arrested Thursday in Washington after a three-year investigation that began before Myers&#8217; retirement from the State Department in 2007. </p>
<p>The U.S. government says they had been spying for Havana for 30 years, recruited by Cuba after a 1978 trip there. Myers received his orders by Morse code, and he and his wife usually hand-delivered intelligence, sometimes by exchanging carts in a grocery store, according to court documents. </p>
<p>&#8220;Doesn&#8217;t the story of Cuban spying seem really ridiculous to everyone?&#8221; Castro asked, without commenting on its validity. </p>
<p>Myers had been under suspicion since 1995 and FBI investigation since 2006. If the couple had been watched that long, &#8220;why were they not arrested before?&#8221; Castro asked. Court documents say the two were such valued spies, they once had a four-hour meeting with Castro, whom Myers described as one of the great modern political leaders. </p>
<p>Castro said he doesn&#8217;t recall meeting them when he was still president. </p></blockquote>
<p>For Complete Story:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/otnjsy" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/otnjsy</a></p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215203</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_CUBA_CASTRO_SPIES?SITE=NCBER&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
some of Castro&#039;s response</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_CUBA_CASTRO_SPIES?SITE=NCBER&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_CUBA_CASTRO_SPIES?SITE=NCBER&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</a><br />
some of Castro&#8217;s response</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215192</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Larry, Is there really any useful intelligence we could garner about Cuba? What exactly could Cuba do with any intelligence they might learn from us?  Would they sell it to Putin? Or is this a supposed positive development to show the FBI and the CIA in a glowing light to the American public?
The agencies protecting us are taking a lot of negative publicity from the Obama/Pelosi team...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Larry, Is there really any useful intelligence we could garner about Cuba? What exactly could Cuba do with any intelligence they might learn from us?  Would they sell it to Putin? Or is this a supposed positive development to show the FBI and the CIA in a glowing light to the American public?<br />
The agencies protecting us are taking a lot of negative publicity from the Obama/Pelosi team&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: an observer</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215179</link>
		<dc:creator>an observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boring.
Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boring.<br />
Who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215178</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an FU to CuIS all right.  A professional intel officer can gain a great deal of insight into this case from what has been exposed in the document.  One question is, though, why reveal this at this time?  Usually, counterintelligence types would be perfectly happy to let low level agents like the Myers&#039; go to their graves unexposed if they continued to compromise elements of their associated espionage mechanisms.  FUs are acts of politics and ego, not counterintelligence.  What prompted the considerations of politics and/or ego to override those of counterintelligence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an FU to CuIS all right.  A professional intel officer can gain a great deal of insight into this case from what has been exposed in the document.  One question is, though, why reveal this at this time?  Usually, counterintelligence types would be perfectly happy to let low level agents like the Myers&#8217; go to their graves unexposed if they continued to compromise elements of their associated espionage mechanisms.  FUs are acts of politics and ego, not counterintelligence.  What prompted the considerations of politics and/or ego to override those of counterintelligence?</p>
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		<title>By: Northwest rain</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215130</link>
		<dc:creator>Northwest rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That document linked above was interesting reading -- and it is probably a message to the Cuban Intelligence service. 

   So the Meyers communicated using short wave radio (the exact unit was specified as being the same as another Cuban agent). 

   Ah and then the era of the e-mail -- and the double meanings. Seems like the government is going to have to prove that the e-mail really does mean something different than what is written. As a juror I would be suspicious of this line of evidence without some solid proof that the underlying meaning of the actual words in the e-mail was different. 

  As a tax payer I can see that an enormous amount of time and money has been spent to monitor this couple -- and that this &quot;spying on the spies&quot; has been extensive. Hopefully the information gained about the methods and operations of the Cuban Intelligence was worth the tax payer&#039;s money. 

  I wonder how many double agents are involved -- Cubans who are really US agents, trying to recruit field agents for Cuba??? It seems like there might be inside information and perhaps that agent has retired or died??? 

  OK -- now who is going to make the movie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That document linked above was interesting reading &#8212; and it is probably a message to the Cuban Intelligence service. </p>
<p>   So the Meyers communicated using short wave radio (the exact unit was specified as being the same as another Cuban agent). </p>
<p>   Ah and then the era of the e-mail &#8212; and the double meanings. Seems like the government is going to have to prove that the e-mail really does mean something different than what is written. As a juror I would be suspicious of this line of evidence without some solid proof that the underlying meaning of the actual words in the e-mail was different. </p>
<p>  As a tax payer I can see that an enormous amount of time and money has been spent to monitor this couple &#8212; and that this &#8220;spying on the spies&#8221; has been extensive. Hopefully the information gained about the methods and operations of the Cuban Intelligence was worth the tax payer&#8217;s money. </p>
<p>  I wonder how many double agents are involved &#8212; Cubans who are really US agents, trying to recruit field agents for Cuba??? It seems like there might be inside information and perhaps that agent has retired or died??? </p>
<p>  OK &#8212; now who is going to make the movie?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/06/walter-and-gwen-meyers-treason-lite/#comment-1215121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Diplomatic security officials &quot;let it go for a while&quot; to see what information might emerge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who knows what &quot;a while&quot; is. Thirty years? These are clearly minor league operatives but Cuba has to be wondering about whether the stuff being sent by these two was all completely bogus. 

It would seem that they were now of no more use to the U.S. so this was, as Larry says, a F.U. to Cuban intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Diplomatic security officials &#8220;let it go for a while&#8221; to see what information might emerge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who knows what &#8220;a while&#8221; is. Thirty years? These are clearly minor league operatives but Cuba has to be wondering about whether the stuff being sent by these two was all completely bogus. </p>
<p>It would seem that they were now of no more use to the U.S. so this was, as Larry says, a F.U. to Cuban intelligence.</p>
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