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		<title>By: Wisewoman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216516</link>
		<dc:creator>Wisewoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mountainnaires.  You are wrong.  The key is not to stop voting but to continually vote out the people in office be they dems or repubs when they do not keep the best interest of the people in mind with their policies, etc.  Just think how afraid of the voters they would be if we voted for the best candidates, the ones in my opinion who:
1.  &quot;raised the least amount of money&quot; knowing that they would be the least corrupted by the powerful (less money = less corruption
2.  least name recognition
3.  least amount of senority (= least corruption)
4.  were voted on irregardless of party affilliation

WHEN WE VOTERS BEGIN TO START A VOTING REVOLUTION WITH THOSE PRECEPTS IN MIND, WE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME IN POLICIES, ETC.
Let&#039;s start the revolution in the next election cycle and watch their heads explode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mountainnaires.  You are wrong.  The key is not to stop voting but to continually vote out the people in office be they dems or repubs when they do not keep the best interest of the people in mind with their policies, etc.  Just think how afraid of the voters they would be if we voted for the best candidates, the ones in my opinion who:<br />
1.  &#8220;raised the least amount of money&#8221; knowing that they would be the least corrupted by the powerful (less money = less corruption<br />
2.  least name recognition<br />
3.  least amount of senority (= least corruption)<br />
4.  were voted on irregardless of party affilliation</p>
<p>WHEN WE VOTERS BEGIN TO START A VOTING REVOLUTION WITH THOSE PRECEPTS IN MIND, WE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME IN POLICIES, ETC.<br />
Let&#8217;s start the revolution in the next election cycle and watch their heads explode.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216474</link>
		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, somebody who is not a lawyer, and somebody not educated in either Harvard or Yale please. Somebody &quot;real&quot; would be a nice change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, somebody who is not a lawyer, and somebody not educated in either Harvard or Yale please. Somebody &#8220;real&#8221; would be a nice change.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawnelle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216467</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawnelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right ON Mandelay!

Millions of us.  And many more every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right ON Mandelay!</p>
<p>Millions of us.  And many more every day.</p>
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216466</link>
		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Newt...been there, done that.  Let&#039;s have a new right-wing demagogue for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Newt&#8230;been there, done that.  Let&#8217;s have a new right-wing demagogue for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216450</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You will vote against your own interest&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? Please tell me how it was in your interest to vote for Obama. I would like to know the specific policies which will benefit you.  I&#039;m sure that you have been following his every move and researching the implications of his policies, so I really want to hear from you. Do not hesitate to blow me away with your intellect and logic.  Maybe you are still believing the lie that taxes aren&#039;t going up. Wait and see.  If you take it from Bucket A instead of Bucket B, you&#039;re still taking it.  Sometimes you need a little history and experience to know a huge lie when you see one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You will vote against your own interest</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? Please tell me how it was in your interest to vote for Obama. I would like to know the specific policies which will benefit you.  I&#8217;m sure that you have been following his every move and researching the implications of his policies, so I really want to hear from you. Do not hesitate to blow me away with your intellect and logic.  Maybe you are still believing the lie that taxes aren&#8217;t going up. Wait and see.  If you take it from Bucket A instead of Bucket B, you&#8217;re still taking it.  Sometimes you need a little history and experience to know a huge lie when you see one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your argument is that sexual  harrassment in the workplace should just be ignored, and if she had just kept her mouth shut all would be ok?  
Sorry, but if a man is pulling out his penis in closed quarters around me, I am going to be terrified of being raped. Why don&#039;t you think about that situation a little bit?  What if a man pulls out his penis in front of your wife/girlfriend/sister/mother at work?  Are you just going to say &#039;oh well&#039;, just don&#039;t make waves honey, you&#039;ll embarrass yourself?

And he was not a drunken frat boy.  He was a Governor, and I&#039;ll assume sober at the time (to give him the benefit of the doubt).  

As for the second half of your post, what does being sexually harrassed have to do with &quot;controlling your own life&quot;?  Who said women were weak?  I said Bill pulled his penis out, which he did.  I don&#039;t buy the weak willed man scenario either.  That is a pathetic excuse that certain men like to use so that they can continue their disgusting behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your argument is that sexual  harrassment in the workplace should just be ignored, and if she had just kept her mouth shut all would be ok?<br />
Sorry, but if a man is pulling out his penis in closed quarters around me, I am going to be terrified of being raped. Why don&#8217;t you think about that situation a little bit?  What if a man pulls out his penis in front of your wife/girlfriend/sister/mother at work?  Are you just going to say &#8216;oh well&#8217;, just don&#8217;t make waves honey, you&#8217;ll embarrass yourself?</p>
<p>And he was not a drunken frat boy.  He was a Governor, and I&#8217;ll assume sober at the time (to give him the benefit of the doubt).  </p>
<p>As for the second half of your post, what does being sexually harrassed have to do with &#8220;controlling your own life&#8221;?  Who said women were weak?  I said Bill pulled his penis out, which he did.  I don&#8217;t buy the weak willed man scenario either.  That is a pathetic excuse that certain men like to use so that they can continue their disgusting behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: mountainaires</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216431</link>
		<dc:creator>mountainaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP is truly a dinosaur of a political party. It&#039;s amazing to watch them grasping for past glory with Newt Gingrich. Until the party moderates toss out these old, failed, farts, they&#039;re never going to have political power. People are sick of their faces and their lies. 

And, so am I. 

I honestly wish for a Republican party I could support; I likewise wish for a Democratic Party I could support. But neither party even comes close to the policy/ethical/domestic/foreign leadership I require to cast my vote ever again.

I&#039;ve come to the very sad conclusion that collaborating in the political system in this country only furthers the conspiracy to defraud the American people of their Constitutional rights and their treasury. So, I&#039;m not voting anymore. I wish everyone would just stop voting, and collaborating in the systemic sickness. But I know people will not comprehend the power that message would have, and they&#039;ll continue to assert meaningless blather like &quot;Oh, no, you have to vote!&quot; 

I know that because I did the same thing for years to others who had long before concluded what I have now realized: Our Democratic Republic is Dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP is truly a dinosaur of a political party. It&#8217;s amazing to watch them grasping for past glory with Newt Gingrich. Until the party moderates toss out these old, failed, farts, they&#8217;re never going to have political power. People are sick of their faces and their lies. </p>
<p>And, so am I. </p>
<p>I honestly wish for a Republican party I could support; I likewise wish for a Democratic Party I could support. But neither party even comes close to the policy/ethical/domestic/foreign leadership I require to cast my vote ever again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to the very sad conclusion that collaborating in the political system in this country only furthers the conspiracy to defraud the American people of their Constitutional rights and their treasury. So, I&#8217;m not voting anymore. I wish everyone would just stop voting, and collaborating in the systemic sickness. But I know people will not comprehend the power that message would have, and they&#8217;ll continue to assert meaningless blather like &#8220;Oh, no, you have to vote!&#8221; </p>
<p>I know that because I did the same thing for years to others who had long before concluded what I have now realized: Our Democratic Republic is Dead.</p>
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		<title>By: jangles</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216424</link>
		<dc:creator>jangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not like the sexist bashing of Palin but even more unforgiveable is the attacks on her female children---the latest victim being Willow.  Since when did it become ok for the Lettermans, Stewarts and pundits to take aim and fire at children of candidates---whatever their age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not like the sexist bashing of Palin but even more unforgiveable is the attacks on her female children&#8212;the latest victim being Willow.  Since when did it become ok for the Lettermans, Stewarts and pundits to take aim and fire at children of candidates&#8212;whatever their age.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandelay</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216380</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandelay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh nonsense.  There are at least 6 of us whining here. And Sarah can read.  And, when the tele-prompter fails, she can even make a speech.  She&#039;s a natural and that has everyone, even David Letterman, so scared out of their boxers and briefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh nonsense.  There are at least 6 of us whining here. And Sarah can read.  And, when the tele-prompter fails, she can even make a speech.  She&#8217;s a natural and that has everyone, even David Letterman, so scared out of their boxers and briefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216375</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me, Indiana, I don&#039;t believe in &quot;pity votes.&quot;  I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries because I was convinced she was the best candidate in the field.  The fact that she was a woman was a plus.

I voted for McCain not because he was a Republican but because I thought he was the only reasonable choice we were given.  As far as racism, there were innumerable charges of racism against everyone and anyone who refused to support Obama.  I had them leveled against me. I rejected my own party in 2008 because I simply did not believe in the Obama&#039;s readiness or rhetoric.

Still don&#039;t, and unfortunately, he&#039;s proving me correct.  

Yes, there&#039;s plenty of fingers to point all around.  But I will never forgive the DNC for what they did last year.  I come from a long line of Democrats.  But the party lost my loyalty when they proved themselves equal only to their Republican mentors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me, Indiana, I don&#8217;t believe in &#8220;pity votes.&#8221;  I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries because I was convinced she was the best candidate in the field.  The fact that she was a woman was a plus.</p>
<p>I voted for McCain not because he was a Republican but because I thought he was the only reasonable choice we were given.  As far as racism, there were innumerable charges of racism against everyone and anyone who refused to support Obama.  I had them leveled against me. I rejected my own party in 2008 because I simply did not believe in the Obama&#8217;s readiness or rhetoric.</p>
<p>Still don&#8217;t, and unfortunately, he&#8217;s proving me correct.  </p>
<p>Yes, there&#8217;s plenty of fingers to point all around.  But I will never forgive the DNC for what they did last year.  I come from a long line of Democrats.  But the party lost my loyalty when they proved themselves equal only to their Republican mentors.</p>
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		<title>By: IndianaDem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216364</link>
		<dc:creator>IndianaDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worst case scenario?  Bill propositioned her like some drunken frat boy, got rebuffed, and she walked out of the room leaving him in his underwear, feeling like an idiot, with only the two of them knowing about what had transpired.  Until she decided to take the matter to court years later and hang it all out in public.  &lt;strong&gt;She ruined her own reputation  and created whatever damages resulted herself.&lt;/strong&gt;  Adult women, in my own opinion, are not helpless creatures totally at the mercy of more powerful men.  Generally speaking, they&#039;re just as capable as men at controling their own lives.  They just have a somewhat different agenda, related to gender.  They make their own choices.  They have their own unique power.  If anything, it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; that men are sometimes afraid of.  Another generalizatin:  Men are in some respects weaker and more predictable than women, and smart women know this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst case scenario?  Bill propositioned her like some drunken frat boy, got rebuffed, and she walked out of the room leaving him in his underwear, feeling like an idiot, with only the two of them knowing about what had transpired.  Until she decided to take the matter to court years later and hang it all out in public.  <strong>She ruined her own reputation  and created whatever damages resulted herself.</strong>  Adult women, in my own opinion, are not helpless creatures totally at the mercy of more powerful men.  Generally speaking, they&#8217;re just as capable as men at controling their own lives.  They just have a somewhat different agenda, related to gender.  They make their own choices.  They have their own unique power.  If anything, it&#8217;s <em>that</em> that men are sometimes afraid of.  Another generalizatin:  Men are in some respects weaker and more predictable than women, and smart women know this.</p>
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		<title>By: IndianaDem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/09/republican-establishment-goes-mad/#comment-1216357</link>
		<dc:creator>IndianaDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t deny that a great many attacks on Palin were total distortions and totally unfair.  For those she has my sympathy.  And yes, sexism is alive and well, alas, and there were obvious elements of that.  Hillary Clinton also had that to contend with, and I have no doubt it would have gotten much worse had she been the democratic candidate in November.  (The far-right would have savaged her unmercifully with their entire repertoire of historical Clinton hatred, but did a U-turn when they saw being nicer about her could be used as a wedge to further split divided democrats.)  Still, I&#039;m not one for sympathy votes.  I strongly disapprove of Palin&#039;s positions on a number of issues, didn&#039;t believe she was knowledgeable enough to be president, and saw McCain/Palin as the continuation of 8 years of failing attitudes and policies.  

American politics isn&#039;t about fair play.  All &lt;em&gt;isms&lt;/em&gt; are shamelessly exploited.  Obama was also unfairly targeted with rumors and  groundless assertions.  Racism was always in the background, along with matters of relgious orientation, alleged sexual orientation, etc.  The most mileage possible was gotten out of the word &lt;em&gt;terrorism&lt;/em&gt;.  Obama was savaged with one of the most negative republican media campaigns I can remember--which I suspect lost the republicans a tremendous amount of support among undecided voters.  While there certainly were and are &quot;Obamtrons&quot;, that part of 2008 election history exists independent of their spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t deny that a great many attacks on Palin were total distortions and totally unfair.  For those she has my sympathy.  And yes, sexism is alive and well, alas, and there were obvious elements of that.  Hillary Clinton also had that to contend with, and I have no doubt it would have gotten much worse had she been the democratic candidate in November.  (The far-right would have savaged her unmercifully with their entire repertoire of historical Clinton hatred, but did a U-turn when they saw being nicer about her could be used as a wedge to further split divided democrats.)  Still, I&#8217;m not one for sympathy votes.  I strongly disapprove of Palin&#8217;s positions on a number of issues, didn&#8217;t believe she was knowledgeable enough to be president, and saw McCain/Palin as the continuation of 8 years of failing attitudes and policies.  </p>
<p>American politics isn&#8217;t about fair play.  All <em>isms</em> are shamelessly exploited.  Obama was also unfairly targeted with rumors and  groundless assertions.  Racism was always in the background, along with matters of relgious orientation, alleged sexual orientation, etc.  The most mileage possible was gotten out of the word <em>terrorism</em>.  Obama was savaged with one of the most negative republican media campaigns I can remember&#8211;which I suspect lost the republicans a tremendous amount of support among undecided voters.  While there certainly were and are &#8220;Obamtrons&#8221;, that part of 2008 election history exists independent of their spin.</p>
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		<title>By: ces</title>
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		<dc:creator>ces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with both parties is they are always searching for an &quot;IDENTITY&quot; but underneath they still have the same ideological base.

The Dims went with the &quot;Change&quot; brand because most people were sick of W. It worked...this time. But the W policies for which oBlunder railed against so hard are the same ones he continues to leave intact. FISA, Torture, Troop levels.

The Pugs are struggling between the Neo-Con Newts and the Pretty Palin Progress. Everybody knows Newt is the old fart who is just another beltway blowhard. But Palin appeals to a lot of people because she&#039;s different, aka gender identification. But I would assert her policies/beliefs aren&#039;t that different from any other &#039;conservative&#039; Republican. Yes, she&#039;s tried to clean up Alaska, but that won&#039;t matter to people with strong opinions about the age-old wedge issues of health care, religion and abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with both parties is they are always searching for an &#8220;IDENTITY&#8221; but underneath they still have the same ideological base.</p>
<p>The Dims went with the &#8220;Change&#8221; brand because most people were sick of W. It worked&#8230;this time. But the W policies for which oBlunder railed against so hard are the same ones he continues to leave intact. FISA, Torture, Troop levels.</p>
<p>The Pugs are struggling between the Neo-Con Newts and the Pretty Palin Progress. Everybody knows Newt is the old fart who is just another beltway blowhard. But Palin appeals to a lot of people because she&#8217;s different, aka gender identification. But I would assert her policies/beliefs aren&#8217;t that different from any other &#8216;conservative&#8217; Republican. Yes, she&#8217;s tried to clean up Alaska, but that won&#8217;t matter to people with strong opinions about the age-old wedge issues of health care, religion and abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how you 5 people on this site sit around bashing President Obama.....you are so full of it.  You will vote against your own interest.  You were a Democrat until Obama won....then all of a sudden, you&#039;d vote for Sarah Palin (who can barely read)......so please, give it up with trying to pretend that there are many of you.  On this site, it&#039;s the same of three people whining OVER AND OVER, trying to pretend that there is some vast amount of folks against President Obama.....you guys are funny.....stupid and silly, but still funny........yawn.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you 5 people on this site sit around bashing President Obama&#8230;..you are so full of it.  You will vote against your own interest.  You were a Democrat until Obama won&#8230;.then all of a sudden, you&#8217;d vote for Sarah Palin (who can barely read)&#8230;&#8230;so please, give it up with trying to pretend that there are many of you.  On this site, it&#8217;s the same of three people whining OVER AND OVER, trying to pretend that there is some vast amount of folks against President Obama&#8230;..you guys are funny&#8230;..stupid and silly, but still funny&#8230;&#8230;..yawn&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ame</title>
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		<dc:creator>ame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you say Tina Fay? Sorry, but there&#039;s been too many jokes about her. The left has ruin her as a politician.

Personally, I&#039;m glad that the Republicans realize this. Maybe Palin will eventually be able to correct this problem in the future but it won&#039;t be anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you say Tina Fay? Sorry, but there&#8217;s been too many jokes about her. The left has ruin her as a politician.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m glad that the Republicans realize this. Maybe Palin will eventually be able to correct this problem in the future but it won&#8217;t be anytime soon.</p>
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