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		<title>By: A-Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218882</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/06/16/the-moving-finger-writes/#more-4522&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard Fernandez:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The reorientation of the IRGC mission to face internal threats is a tacit admission of political weakness.  Contrary to the narrative that Iran has been strengthened by the events of recent years, it is strongly suggestive that the opposite is true.  And now that the internal threat has actually materialized, the Obama administration should ask itself whether it is wise public policy to throw a regime racked by internal dissention and possibly collapsing upon itself the lifeline of “engagement”; whether it is opportune to give it international legitimacy and remove the sanctions at a time when it is beating itself up. In others words, the administration must ask whether it makes any sense to ring the bell just as Teheran is on the ropes.  Following the lead of Kim Jong Il can be described as an act of dialogue without precondition, or it may simply be stupidity without precedent.
&lt;/i&gt;

Help us, Hopey One Kenobi. You&#039;re our only hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/06/16/the-moving-finger-writes/#more-4522" rel="nofollow">Richard Fernandez:</a></p>
<p><i>The reorientation of the IRGC mission to face internal threats is a tacit admission of political weakness.  Contrary to the narrative that Iran has been strengthened by the events of recent years, it is strongly suggestive that the opposite is true.  And now that the internal threat has actually materialized, the Obama administration should ask itself whether it is wise public policy to throw a regime racked by internal dissention and possibly collapsing upon itself the lifeline of “engagement”; whether it is opportune to give it international legitimacy and remove the sanctions at a time when it is beating itself up. In others words, the administration must ask whether it makes any sense to ring the bell just as Teheran is on the ropes.  Following the lead of Kim Jong Il can be described as an act of dialogue without precondition, or it may simply be stupidity without precedent.<br />
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<p>Help us, Hopey One Kenobi. You&#8217;re our only hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Keyes</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218842</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following I got off HUFFPO which is from an Iranian medical student.


Hello,


It&#039;s painful to watch what&#039;s happening.

I don&#039;t want anything to do with what has been said this far, as I neither have the strength nor the resilience to face all these unfathomable events.

I only want to speak about what I have witnessed. I am a medical student. There was chaos last night at the trauma section in one of our main hospitals. Although by decree, all riot-related injuries were supposed to be sent to military hospitals, all other hospitals were filled to the rim. Last night, nine people died at our hospital and another 28 had gunshot wounds. All hospital employees were crying till dawn. They (government) removed the dead bodies on back of trucks, before we were even able to get their names or other information. What can you even say to the people who don&#039;t even respect the dead. No one was allowed to speak to the wounded or get any information from them. This morning the faculty and the students protested by gathering at the lobby of the hospital where they were confronted by plain cloths anti-riot militia, who in turn closed off the hospital and imprisoned the staff. The extent of injuries are so grave, that despite being one of the most staffed emergency rooms, they&#039;ve asked everyone to stay and help--I&#039;m sure it will even be worst tonight.

What can anyone say in face of all these atrocities? What can you say to the family of the 13 year old boy who died from gunshots and whose dead body then disappeared?

This issue is not about cheating(election) anymore. This is not about stealing votes anymore. The issue is about a vast injustice inflected on the people. They&#039;ve put a baton in the hand of every 13-14 year old to smash the faces of &quot;the bunches who are less than dirt&quot; (government is calling the people who are uprising dried-up torn and weeds) .

This is what sickens me from dealing with these issues. And from those who shut their eyes and close their ears and claim the riots are in opposition of the government and presidency!! No! The people&#039;s complaint is against the egregious injustices committed against the people. 

Classic example of what happens when &quot;dictators&quot;
think they can &quot;fix&quot; an election that is not going their way Lets crack down on the dissent etc etc.

If the Grand Aatollah (sp) doesnt wake up and smell the roses the whole country will end up in a bloody civil war because if the demonstrations dont stop and he tries to quell it with force it will only turn violent.

You dont have to be an expert to predict how this will come out. If the reform movement does not get any satisfaction or resolution then the violence and choas will escalate until one side or the other &quot;wins&quot;.

The ONLY way anything could be resolved right now to end the escalation would be for the Grand A to declare the election null and void and maybe then things would calm down and some kind of compromise worked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following I got off HUFFPO which is from an Iranian medical student.</p>
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s painful to watch what&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want anything to do with what has been said this far, as I neither have the strength nor the resilience to face all these unfathomable events.</p>
<p>I only want to speak about what I have witnessed. I am a medical student. There was chaos last night at the trauma section in one of our main hospitals. Although by decree, all riot-related injuries were supposed to be sent to military hospitals, all other hospitals were filled to the rim. Last night, nine people died at our hospital and another 28 had gunshot wounds. All hospital employees were crying till dawn. They (government) removed the dead bodies on back of trucks, before we were even able to get their names or other information. What can you even say to the people who don&#8217;t even respect the dead. No one was allowed to speak to the wounded or get any information from them. This morning the faculty and the students protested by gathering at the lobby of the hospital where they were confronted by plain cloths anti-riot militia, who in turn closed off the hospital and imprisoned the staff. The extent of injuries are so grave, that despite being one of the most staffed emergency rooms, they&#8217;ve asked everyone to stay and help&#8211;I&#8217;m sure it will even be worst tonight.</p>
<p>What can anyone say in face of all these atrocities? What can you say to the family of the 13 year old boy who died from gunshots and whose dead body then disappeared?</p>
<p>This issue is not about cheating(election) anymore. This is not about stealing votes anymore. The issue is about a vast injustice inflected on the people. They&#8217;ve put a baton in the hand of every 13-14 year old to smash the faces of &#8220;the bunches who are less than dirt&#8221; (government is calling the people who are uprising dried-up torn and weeds) .</p>
<p>This is what sickens me from dealing with these issues. And from those who shut their eyes and close their ears and claim the riots are in opposition of the government and presidency!! No! The people&#8217;s complaint is against the egregious injustices committed against the people. </p>
<p>Classic example of what happens when &#8220;dictators&#8221;<br />
think they can &#8220;fix&#8221; an election that is not going their way Lets crack down on the dissent etc etc.</p>
<p>If the Grand Aatollah (sp) doesnt wake up and smell the roses the whole country will end up in a bloody civil war because if the demonstrations dont stop and he tries to quell it with force it will only turn violent.</p>
<p>You dont have to be an expert to predict how this will come out. If the reform movement does not get any satisfaction or resolution then the violence and choas will escalate until one side or the other &#8220;wins&#8221;.</p>
<p>The ONLY way anything could be resolved right now to end the escalation would be for the Grand A to declare the election null and void and maybe then things would calm down and some kind of compromise worked out.</p>
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		<title>By: A-Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218841</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-seven-point-manifesto-of-the-iranian-resistance/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seven Point Manifesto&lt;/a&gt;

The following document, known as the Seven-Point Manifesto, calling for the resignation of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, has hit the streets of Iran. Hundreds of thousands of copies have already been circulated throughout the country.

A copy was sent from Tehran to filmmaker and activist Ardeshir Arian, who has translated it for Pajamas Media:

The Seven-Point Manifesto calls for:

1. Stripping Ayatollah Khamenei of his supreme leadership position because of his unfairness. Fairness is a requirement of a supreme leader.

2. Stripping Ahmadinejad of the presidency, due to his unlawful act of maintaining the position illegally.

3. Transferring temporary supreme leadership position to Ayatollah Hussein-Ali Montazery until the formation of a committee to reevaluate and adjust Iran’s constitution.

4. Recognizing Mir Hossein Mousavi as the rightfully elected president of the people.

5. Formation of a new government by President Mousavi and preparation for the implementation of new constitutional amendments.

6. Unconditional release of all political prisoners regardless of ideology or party platform.

7. Dissolution of all organizations — both secret and public — designed for the oppression of the Iranian people, such as the Gasht Ershad (Iranian morality police).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-seven-point-manifesto-of-the-iranian-resistance/" rel="nofollow">Seven Point Manifesto</a></p>
<p>The following document, known as the Seven-Point Manifesto, calling for the resignation of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, has hit the streets of Iran. Hundreds of thousands of copies have already been circulated throughout the country.</p>
<p>A copy was sent from Tehran to filmmaker and activist Ardeshir Arian, who has translated it for Pajamas Media:</p>
<p>The Seven-Point Manifesto calls for:</p>
<p>1. Stripping Ayatollah Khamenei of his supreme leadership position because of his unfairness. Fairness is a requirement of a supreme leader.</p>
<p>2. Stripping Ahmadinejad of the presidency, due to his unlawful act of maintaining the position illegally.</p>
<p>3. Transferring temporary supreme leadership position to Ayatollah Hussein-Ali Montazery until the formation of a committee to reevaluate and adjust Iran’s constitution.</p>
<p>4. Recognizing Mir Hossein Mousavi as the rightfully elected president of the people.</p>
<p>5. Formation of a new government by President Mousavi and preparation for the implementation of new constitutional amendments.</p>
<p>6. Unconditional release of all political prisoners regardless of ideology or party platform.</p>
<p>7. Dissolution of all organizations — both secret and public — designed for the oppression of the Iranian people, such as the Gasht Ershad (Iranian morality police).</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218670</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard they were asking obama for help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard they were asking obama for help</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218663</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believed that from the minute I heard the &quot;results&quot; there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believed that from the minute I heard the &#8220;results&#8221; there.</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218655</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this was what I was going to write and have before. He wanted Hillary for her abilities and experience but always keeping in mind she would be his scapegoat,  whenever needed,but god help us all if he does. maybe we the people should have the guts,like other countries to stand up for what is right.   Is there anyone who can get on the  job of bringing these abuses ,past and present  to the public that is unaware or forgetful.  The media is on a one track agenda and not doing their job.

 This administration is bumbling along on all the extremely important issues and the media is saying they are doing a great job. maybe they just need to add the word BROWNIE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this was what I was going to write and have before. He wanted Hillary for her abilities and experience but always keeping in mind she would be his scapegoat,  whenever needed,but god help us all if he does. maybe we the people should have the guts,like other countries to stand up for what is right.   Is there anyone who can get on the  job of bringing these abuses ,past and present  to the public that is unaware or forgetful.  The media is on a one track agenda and not doing their job.</p>
<p> This administration is bumbling along on all the extremely important issues and the media is saying they are doing a great job. maybe they just need to add the word BROWNIE.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218524</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Can Obama Say About Iran?

One of our resident lefties asked that question and today the guys at Powerline have provided the answer in the words of Ronald Reagan. Addressing the Solidarity strikes that threatened to turn into a blood bath and a point of conflict between the west and the Soviet Union, Reagan, as he always did, took the side of freedom.

    I urge the Polish Government and its allies to consider the consequences of their actions. How can they possibly justify using naked force to crush a people who ask for nothing more than the right to lead their own lives in freedom and dignity? Brute force may intimidate, but it cannot form the basis of an enduring society, and the ailing Polish economy cannot be rebuilt with terror tactics.

That&#039;s just a piece of what he said, go to Powerline to see how a real President speaks up for the oppressed.

Remember when Russia invaded Georgia and how Obama blamed both sides until McCain showed him what to say? Here&#039;s hoping that Obama avails himself of a second chance to get this right. 

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/288594.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Can Obama Say About Iran?</p>
<p>One of our resident lefties asked that question and today the guys at Powerline have provided the answer in the words of Ronald Reagan. Addressing the Solidarity strikes that threatened to turn into a blood bath and a point of conflict between the west and the Soviet Union, Reagan, as he always did, took the side of freedom.</p>
<p>    I urge the Polish Government and its allies to consider the consequences of their actions. How can they possibly justify using naked force to crush a people who ask for nothing more than the right to lead their own lives in freedom and dignity? Brute force may intimidate, but it cannot form the basis of an enduring society, and the ailing Polish economy cannot be rebuilt with terror tactics.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a piece of what he said, go to Powerline to see how a real President speaks up for the oppressed.</p>
<p>Remember when Russia invaded Georgia and how Obama blamed both sides until McCain showed him what to say? Here&#8217;s hoping that Obama avails himself of a second chance to get this right. </p>
<p><a href="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/288594.php" rel="nofollow">http://ace.mu.nu/archives/288594.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218420</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/your-guide-following-iranian-election-protests-online&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guide To Following Iranian Election Online.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/your-guide-following-iranian-election-protests-online" rel="nofollow">Guide To Following Iranian Election Online.</a></p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218415</link>
		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explain. Specifically who do you regard as having good character in any of the Arab countries? No answer? Then stifle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain. Specifically who do you regard as having good character in any of the Arab countries? No answer? Then stifle.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218390</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not seeing anything that would indicate he &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a lesser evil.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;If we went by character tests we wouldn’t be able to deal with anyone in those Arab countries.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  
Well I guess it&#039;s a good thing Clinton is our SOS and not you, because that&#039;s completely crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not seeing anything that would indicate he <em>is</em> a lesser evil.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;If we went by character tests we wouldn’t be able to deal with anyone in those Arab countries.&#8221;</em><br />
Well I guess it&#8217;s a good thing Clinton is our SOS and not you, because that&#8217;s completely crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218388</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m merely noting what&#039;s been reported.  There&#039;s no value judgment stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m merely noting what&#8217;s been reported.  There&#8217;s no value judgment stated.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218386</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anything would surprise me now, and it&#039;s not like we haven&#039;t done it before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anything would surprise me now, and it&#8217;s not like we haven&#8217;t done it before.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218374</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right wing?  Sort of.  More like militarist and ultra-nationalist.

Elements of the Revolutionary Guard who own much of the economy through &quot;Islamic socialism&quot;, charity combines, would like to get rid of the Mullah system as now composed already.

You could see the Army do a coup via &quot;peace keeping&quot; along with IRG elements who dislike having been made a domestic security force recently.

Take a look at Memri.org and such.  Ahmadinejad&#039;s rhetoric, and others, has become increasingly nationalistic and deranged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right wing?  Sort of.  More like militarist and ultra-nationalist.</p>
<p>Elements of the Revolutionary Guard who own much of the economy through &#8220;Islamic socialism&#8221;, charity combines, would like to get rid of the Mullah system as now composed already.</p>
<p>You could see the Army do a coup via &#8220;peace keeping&#8221; along with IRG elements who dislike having been made a domestic security force recently.</p>
<p>Take a look at Memri.org and such.  Ahmadinejad&#8217;s rhetoric, and others, has become increasingly nationalistic and deranged.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218348</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugh, all too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh, all too.</p>
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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/14/iran-in-turmoil/#comment-1218344</link>
		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but oowanwa tomorrow&#039;s another day. oil prices won&#039;t be staying down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but oowanwa tomorrow&#8217;s another day. oil prices won&#8217;t be staying down.</p>
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