good news, obama really didn’t know what wright was preaching all those years.
By American Girl in Italy on June 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM in Bamboozling, Current Affairs, Hoodwinking, Obama's Illinois Associates, Pandering, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Sara in Italy
Apparently Obama really didn’t know all the vile hate Reverend Wright was preaching at Trinity United. He just lied about being a faithful churchgoer to garner votes. It was all just a big fabrication to make Obama out to be the good christian, who attended church every Sunday, at 11am.
Jeff Poor reports on newsbusters.com “According to Richard Wolffe, an MSNBC contributor and former Newsweek columnist that covered the Obama presidential campaign for the weekly magazine, people don’t have to worry about the rantings and ravings of Obama’s controversial preacher having any impact on his world view because he wasn’t there.
Wolffe, in an appearance at the Politics & Prose bookstore in Washington, D.C. on June 15 promoting his book about Obama, “Renegade,” told the audience the president wasn’t naïve about Wright - he was ignorant.”
Isn’t it great to find out that Obama isn’t a complete moron who sat in a church for 20 years but never heard any of the sermons, or someone who supports the theory the government injected African Americans with HIV and that our chickens came home to roost on 9/11, but that he is just a lying politician who created a false image of himself to win elections?
That false narrative really helped him win a big block of Christian votes…South Carolina comes to mind. He sure did a lot of pandering to the conservative Christians down south.
Wolffe told the audience Obama was using religion, specifically his church attendance to garner support for the various offices he held - from Illinois state senate, the U.S. senator and ultimately President.
“And then at the same time, he was running for various offices,” Wolffe said. “So when he went to church, and this is where the politician’s slipperiness comes in - he didn’t say, ‘I wasn’t much of a churchgoer.’ If he was in church, it just wasn’t his church. He wasn’t going to church to pray. He was going to church around the state of Illinois to get votes.”
Wolffe reference a Feb. 22, 2007 Rolling Stone article and said that was the actual first warning sign to the Obama campaign the radical preacher was a problem for Obama.
“Rolling Stone did a story about Wright’s sermons right at the start of the campaign,” Wolffe said. “The candidate saw it. He disinvited Wright from giving the public prayer at the start of the Springfield launch. He gave a private prayer with the family and he ordered his campaign staff to go research the sermons. He said, ‘Go find out what’s in these sermons,’ obviously he wasn’t there.”
However, as Wolffe explained – the research wasn’t done and it took some time before the details emerged.
“That work was never done,” Wolffe said. “That was a huge mistake.”
Wolffe described the Obama campaign as lucky the news didn’t surface before the Iowa caucuses or in the heat of the contest with Democratic challenger Hillary Clinton during the early part of 2008.
“They were lucky, lucky, lucky that it didn’t emerge before Iowa, just before Iowa or before he had won that whole string of primaries through February,” Wolffe said.
Wasn’t that lucky that the media didn’t figure it out before Iowa that Obama was a big fraud?
When the Wright controversy broke, Obama was in a tight spot. He didn’t want to admit that he lied about attending church every Sunday, especially with all the suspicion circulating that he was a Muslim (hmmm), so he said he never heard what Wright was preaching. Which was finally, actually the truth. Albeit we all thought he was a complete idiot for attending church for 20 years, without ever hearing what was said. But all that lying actually worked for him…amazingly.
This also explains why Crazy Uncle Jeremiah came out and went all bat shit crazy at the National Press Club. He was pissed. Obama used him and his church to get elected, and then tossed him under the bus. It makes so much more sense to me now.
Obama made this statement after the Wright controvery exploded:
“I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.”
But, since it was all a lie, I guess he still can’t judged on who is and what he believes in, or what his values, and judgment are, because we still don’t know. Well, except that he is a liar.
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And hillary sat in silence about it…..biggest mistake of her life
Still got that Hillary thing going eh Mark. Tell us again how you supported her.
animal…..What is it about the truth that bothers you?
In your view animal…I can support hillary only if I dont point out her mistakes? Have some more kool-aid. youre still thirsty
Don’t hold back tell me more of her mistakes–who’s stopping you.
No mater what the posts are about, your first reaction seems to be “all Hillary all the time” you got that empty glass thing going for her. I’t more than obvious. But please list some more of her failings.
I cant support Obama as I look on and see all that he is doing, the direction he is taking this country in, unfortunately by extension I cannot support Hillary either.
I am not going to say Obama is wrong, yet give Hillary a free pass. She is part of this administration, she is sitting and looking on at all that he is doing and not saying a word.
So why be hypocritical and slam Obama daily, but when it comes to Hillary try and convince myself she has no other choice, nonsense she is part and parcel of this entire fraud being hoisted on all of us.
hillary’s silence is very loud….indeed
Jerk
Oh, yeah, right! As the new SoS for the 0zero administration, Hillary should definitely be pointing out all of 0zero’s failings. NOT! Whatever Hillary’s motives are past, present, or future, a great deal of time must pass before she can do anything. She knows how important loyalty is to the POTUS. If she were doing what has been suggested here, she would be quickly removed with congress’s blessing. Don’t be so nieve!
Not everyone thinks her “silence” on the Wright issue was a mistake. You state it as a fact, when in reality you have no idea what the ultimate outcome would have been had Hillary made Wright a huge issue. Look at what happened when she tried to bring up Rezko. She got shouted down, and the Obama campaign ran with that line of offense for the rest of the campaign. Having volunteered for Hillary, I can tell you there was intense tension between the camps. Making Wright an issue would have become the focal point of the primary. She would have been out of the primary in March. Instead Hillary chose the high road and became a better woman, a better person, smarter, stronger and best of all, she is still here. We are all better for that.
still drinkin the kool-aid…..amazing
Umm..that would be you Mark. I love how your are allowed to have an opinion but no one else. lol…
Markle knows all the facts. He’ll soon enlighten everyone.
The truth acording to Mark. LOL
No one holds a monopoly on the truth….I think enlightened people welcome when good intentioned people tell them they have made a mistake..next?
You have beat it to death on most posts Mark it’s about time you moved on.
Nothing like acting like a parrot? Repetitive thinking sees you running round in circles.
How about that list mark? Since that was her BIGGEST mistake what was number two and so forth. It’s you biased truth, no one else’s.
so I guess you want a top 10 letterman style list of hillary’s mistakes?…sorry. I wont take the bait. but some friendly advice. learn how to be a critical thinker
That is a piece of advice you should take.
HRC is a patriot and is serving OUR COUNTRY more than likely because she believes she brings something to the table that this administration desperately needs–gravitas. That One needs more in his cabinet than just liquor, arugula, and affirmative-action cardboard cut-outs. That she did not need to serve would be ideal but we do not live in an ideal country and can use all the help we can get with the neophyte clown in the WH running the 3-ring circus. Try wrapping your matter-so-dense-not-even-thought-can-escape mind around that, Markie.
Ferd:
Markle- that’s classic:-)
lol..Markie..so funny.
Well, then may you should stay off the blog until your intentions are good.
no, looking back on it, she probably knew that he didn’t really attend the church that often, and that he was just a big phoney.
She did try to bring up the issue, but was always viscerated in the press. She was working against the media and she was losing…
I don’t think she wanted to fight dirty - Obama fought dirty. Dirty won, which sucks!
The good guys really do win in the end. When all is said and done, Obama will become the big loser. Unfortunately, America has to lose some things before we win because too many Americans have their heads in the sand.
Thank you, AGI! Hillary Clinton tried to raise many of these issues during the primary and was dissed for the effort, again and again. All we have to do is look at Wolffe’s language:
How “lucky” the man was . . .
What he leaves out, of course, is how lucky the man was for not being proven a liar and for not having the press do their jobs. Any negative spin on Obama was booed and/or ignored. Voters believed what they wanted to believe, not what was staring them in the face. So, the complaints now have a very bitter taste to those of us who saw through the act.
Even Wright warned us when he said Obama was merely a politician and said what politicians need to say. Again, Obamatrons did not listen; they just kept sucking on the blank slate.
And for those who find every opportunity to bust HRC? No one said Hillary Clinton was perfect. She, too, is an accomplished politician. But she also happens to be highly knowledgeable, experienced and dedicated to public service.
We’re lucky to have her serving American interests. For me, she’s the single bright light in a miserable assortment of pols that have taken over DC. Or would people be happier with Kerry in the State position?
No? I didn’t think so.
Hillary Clinton is a grownup. She took a risk when she went to State. But colleagues from the Left and Right have given her very high marks. There’s a reason her polling numbers are so high: she’s good, she’s very good. But elections have consequences. And we’re stuck with Obama.
I’m just glad there’s one person to trust in this Administration.
Well said.
Obama USED the Black church community to get elected. But had not one clue what Wright was actually preaching.
His “VALUES?” Whatever it takes to get elected. PERFORM the part. MISLEAD in half-true statements.
This sure puts his famous “Race” speech in a different light, doesn’t it?
You’re right, Mary. The “race” speech [though hailed by the press as the most significant speech since Martin Luther King's "I Had a Dream . . ."] was nothing more than an expedient way to coverup the Wright mess.
In fact, in that light it was an insult to the American public, black and white alike. I remember Obama saying he wanted to start a “dialogue” on racial issues. Seems that was kicked to the curb as well.
Then again, he’s the Prez, so that stuff is inconsequential. Like all the empty promises tossed overboard.
Change? Not the kind anyone hoped for, I’m afraid.
He also dodged the bullet on Rezko using that speech. The same day of the big announcement of his all important race speech the Trib in Illinois nailed him on his Rezko lies. That ‘reveation’ Obama had re: Rezcko, 250,000, his part in procurring the house and lot, their family dinners and daily phone calls for years-went unnoticed because..”HAIL-THE BIG SPEECH” took over the msm and he got the pass on his Rezko lies during the Ohio debates.
Does anyone know if Obama really ever attended any church other than muslim services with his adoptive Dad, at any time during his growing up, college years etc? I guess I just started to think about that. His Mom and Grandparents were what faith? Maybe atheist? Communists(reports say that’s what they were) do not believe in God do they? Has he ever really gone to a Chrisian church regularly ever except to grab votes? Yet all the good Christians who voted for him, think he is deeply devout in his faith. Problem is, they don’t realize it isn’t Christian faith at all. My my, the terrible trick that was played on America is awful to behold and now we are caught in a very tangled web.
He may or may not have actually been at many of Wright’s sermons, but there’s a lot of evidence they had a lot of contact. So, IMO, he knew about Wright’s beliefs, whether he was in church or not. Either he agreed with Wright, or he wasn’t a moral enough person to distance himself from Wright, wanting to get something from the relationship for political reasons. Either way, it’s not good….
He awarded Reverend Wright 6 million dollars in earmarks. Because it was given to a church..no one was culpable regarding the end disposition of those funds. Reverend Wright has a new 5 million dollar home and 2 Mercedes Benz automobiles…must made a lot of money as a preacher, eh? Ask where the money went-Obama says he is not responsible past the earmark..doubt me? Ask the Trib-
Obama is a liar of the first order. Wolffe’s little revelation should be on the front page of the New York Times and on every newspaper in this country. And the facade of Barack Obama should be dismantled with dispatch so that we can impeach this man who is not what he said he was….on many levels.
You would think this assessment would cause Wolffe to be self-critical about the 4th Estate’s performance both in failing to investigate the content of Rev Wright’s sermons and the fact that the President rarely attended his church (but lied extensively about it).
It’s remarkable how incurious and completely negligent journalists have been in their coverage of this President.
Fool Americans once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us . . .
I love it when the Clintonistas pile on the press.
For 8 years of Bill’s Presidency and that sham “campaign” that Hillary ran in NY for the Senate, they got a free ride in the demcong press.
Then the press fell in love with the new kid and threw their first love away……..so sad.
Yeah, right. I don’t agree with you about the campaigning, but let’s just keep the focus on some “free ride”, and ignore the fact that Hillary has worked extremely hard in all of her jobs. That’s immaterial.
Frankly, the Clintons did not think 0zero had a chance in hell. By the time Super Tuesday rolled around and he racked up more wins than expected, particularly the 11 following Super Tuesday, it was too late. But remember, the states he won were BECAUSE of the caucus fraud and his primary state victories were the southern and the Mason-Dixon line massive AA vote that gave him 90% of their votes. These included LA, AL, GA, MD, DC. The only exception to that rule was VA, which was a surprise and the momentum of the victories in those states he could not lose due to the majority of the AA voters, won him WI, another unlikely surprise. The other four wins were the fraudulent caucus wins where caucus goers were organized by MoveOn.org, bused in from other counties and states and the total numbers were inflated to suite their needs like Iran has just done in that rouge election.
In those states it did not matter what his church affiliation was as was suggested earlier here. AA’s would have voted for him under any circumstances at that point. They had finally been convinced he could win and they supported him across the board - dem, repub, rich, poor, professionals or wage earners. As in SC only the AA voters were being contacted to vote, thanks to SC Rep. James Clyburn, one of the main king makers. It was all by design just as Clyburn’s success in getting the SC primary moved up to the third contest in January 2008 during MLK’s birthday week.
Everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) worked in this neophyte’s favor. Even the astrology magazine I read had to backtrack in March 2008 to say the author predicting Hillary would win it all had grossly underestimated 0zero’s ‘progressed’ jupiter since neither his birth time nor his birth place was unconfirmed(imagine that!)at the time the article was written (July 2007).
With the kind of “good luck” aspect that emerged from the correction, nothing could stop him - not the fraud, not his Muslem background, not William Ayers, and not even Rev Wright. Of course, one thing about it, that aspect won’t last forever.
For Hillary her discovery of Jeremiah Wright and his rantings was a little too late in the process for her to use effectively. Had she known earlier we would be addressing her as “Madam President.”
McCain DID know but chose not to use it as a campaign issue which is the only reason Obama is in the White House. For that I will never forgive McCain.
Obama knows everything that is going on with FoxNews but claims he never heard or read anything in 20 years of what he called a close personal relationship with Wright - his spiritual mentor.
What I am finding with Obama is that he truly is a morally, ethically, and now legally corrupt cheap suit politician. How did this guy happen???
I think the larger question is why? Why is the media pretty much selecting Presidents for us now? Why that… and why don’t we get it?
I think you hit on it.
To take back our country we need to take back control of our own media and not leave it in the hands of a small elite to control what is said and how it is portrayed.
Journalism and the free press is dead for now.
Yes, Obama is a symptom of our problem and not the larger problem itself. The media reveres him for his “game”. The politics of the office and the power of it and the gamesmanship to achieve it has now taken precedence over the primary function of the office itself. In a way, Barack didn’t just out game everybody else, he rewrote the rules of the game itself. In a perverse sort of a way, you have to have some level of respect for that… it is the same kind of respect you might give to a live culture of an ebola virus, but respect nonetheless. We can get through this, I just hope we learn something from it all.
Docelder, you give B0 too much credit! HE did not come up with these strategies. They were devised for him by those determined to win in 2008 at any cost (Dem party leadership of the DNC, Dean,Brazile, Clyburn, Emanuel, the Kennedys, MoveOn.org, Acorn, and the fundraising machine secured by Pelosi from her own SF district, the race-baiting/race-card playing Team Obama, headed up by Jesse Jackson Jr, et al). The same groups were just as determined that it would not be Hillary. Hillary was not as pliable as B0. While Pelosi and the other’s puppetry is going to be short-lived (this man is very narcissistic and thin-skinned), they wanted their sweeping agenda and knew it would be better enacted by B0’s election than by a centrist like Hillary.
I would agree with you if the strategy had been his idea or even if he had selected all these players. But, the truth is he did not. It was all handed to him on a silver platter with the exception of the Chicago group - he did choose them. Therefore, all of the vile strategy cannot be admired and credited to him and his winnings because it was not his plan. Instead, it was a h u g e group effort that worked hand and glove but each group worked independently. He just went along with it.
The most money B0 ever raised for any one of the other 3 or 4 campaigns he waged was $100,000. He was not even hi-tech savvy - that came from Move-On.org and his fundraising social networking machine, thanks to Pelosi who also used the same company for raising the money to elect the dem majority in congress in 2006 and 2008.
In fact, 0 was not even a techy at all until the 2008 campaign. Only give credit where credit is due, please.
I keep having to remind myself that the media are owned and completely controlled by the vast corporations who bought the presidency for Obama, who dutifully rewards them with billions in bailouts and kickback schemes.
Yes, we need to take back the free press, but we also must first take back our democratic right to one person, one vote. To do that, the flawed caucus loophole discovered by one of Howard Dean’s geeks MUST be outlawed and policed if necessary to insure our sacred right to vote. In fact, the whole caucus system must be outlawed. Don’t look for that kind of reform before the 2012 election since it was the winning ticket for the WH and the dem majority in congress. They are all pretending it didn’t happen. Worst of all, there is no court to help or protect us. Even the Supreme Court says they don’t get involved in partisan politics. The political parties must work it out.
She, along with everyone else, could not touch him for fear of being labeled racist. That Fraud won because we all were trying to prove that we are not racist. I hope we are happy now.
The majority of blacks just would have turned on her sooner. The reality is that she needed their support and they did not want to hear any criticism of Obama! Also, many blacks have no problem with that Wright preached.
So was it in the speech that made Mathews leg tingle that Obama stood and told bald faced lies to 30 million of us in real time?
Or was it in the Lincoln-esk speech about race relations that he stood and lied to our faces? Or is this another cover so we won’t look for Wright on the WH guest list - if we ever get our hands on it?
Mathews chorus “tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies…”
The problem with Wolffe reporting this now is that Obama has told so many lies about his relationship with Wright and many other things, no one knows what to believe. Frankly, I’m not buying this any more than I bought any of his other stories.
Ulitmately, all this tells me is that he will do any say anything to any audience and if finally called on it, arrogantly look back and say ‘well I was campaigning, what did you expect.’ Politico and others ran stories recently about his flip flopping without apology. He has only a passing acquaintance with the truth.
As to Hillary doing something about his lies re Wright — where would she start? This was like a Gordian knot. I remember the campaign — people were so protective of him, like he was a toddler and she was some abusive mother — everyone from the press to his more virulent supporters. I’ve never seen anybody coddled like this man. It doesn’t make her decisions right but she chose to go after Rezko, since that was pay to play, which she tried to do — and she was excoriated for it.
Whatever mistakes her camp made, I don’t know that there’s any way she could have beaten the entire press corp, the backstabbers in the DNC and his money printing machine together with his voters wrapping him in baby bunting.
Just remember how many conflicting stories this guy told about Wright — nobody called him on it — nobody.
I don’t hear anything about obama attending church now that he’s occupying the white house. Oh, I guess I heard “they” were looking around. Right!! No need for any pretense now.
exactly.
Yup.
Great job, AGII.
Why are people laughing while Wolffe tells how Obama lied, cheated, and manipulated people to get their vote?
Obama is disgusting. He CHOSE Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan, Frank Marshall Davis, Auchi, and others to promote himself.
Who are those idiots who think it’s funny???
Wolffe’s own laughing while he exposes Obama for what he really is speaks volumes about Wolffe’s own wink-and-a-nod implication that what Obama did was ok.
Wolffe was one of the biggest ass-kissers in the primary, and was working for Newsweek while interviewing him. He was hand-picked by Obama to do this book on his behalf.
And Newsweek’s editor Ethan Thomas was giving us all long, wordy essays about God’s will and completion of the long civil rights journey, and blah blah blah , all the while his reporter (Wolffe) knew Obama was a USER for his own advantage.
Man, those Newsweek/MSNBC “journalists” sure pulled a fast one on the American people.
Gain the world, lose your soul.
Major league BAMBOOZLING by the candidate and the press that supported him.
May Newsweek be exposed for what it is, and may the market response result in their bankruptcy.
I do not think they were pulling anything over on anyone. They were and are true “believers” in this imposter. They drank the koolaid and are still in la la land over this most ordinary man that they have lopped with greatness. It is truly mind numbing.
I have few illusions about politicians, any politicians D or R. But this man is just so slimy that the thought of him sitting in the Oval Office makes me nausious.
I know we’ve had bad presidents before. I know we’ve had slime balls occupying the Oval Office. I just wish that we, as a people, as a nation, would stop acting like partisan pinheads and adolescents watching American Idol.
The president of the United States doesn’t need to be a Rock Star, or have charisma or to give us tingles up or down our legs. They need to be relatively honest, expecting complete honesty from any politician is too naive for adults, they need to be competant. And they need integrity and courage. And they need to stop giving a damn whether they get re-elected. They need to care about doing the right thing.
Okay, off my soapbox now. But this crap just drives me nuts. It’s as if we are all giving these clowns a pass on being lying scumbags. I can’t speak for anyone else but I sure as hell don’t!
It sounds like you would enjoy reading this letter someone wrote to Glenn Beck and then please sign the petition:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/26742/
I saw a video of Beck reading the letter. it was a great letter.
We all saw what honesty got Kucinich.
Ridicule.
I know that at least one friend and I wrote persistently to the press people about Rev. Wright, so if they didn’t know what Wright was all about it’s because they didn’t want to know. This way, two years later, they can claim — as Obama is now doing — that they “had no idea” Wright was the hate-monger he is.
It enabled the press people to let Obama (and, now, themselves) off the hook.
Obama is a user and a Chicago hustler. Obama and his croonies are not going to stop until there is nothing left of America…
Already Obama has tripled the debt Bush had, and hes not stopping. If the healtcare goes through our debt will be another trillion or 2…
Already Obama has told the world how embarrased he is of our country while bowing to various muslim leaders.
Has this fraud told a single truth in his adult life? During the election, I read more than once that O’linsky was known to listen to Wright’s sermons via iPod while on the road (after he severed ties), and that he is indeed much closer to Rev. Farrakhan than the public realizes. At the very least, he has clearly been inspired by both of these ranting racists. What a shame our voting population chooses to be so dangerously misinformed about this man. I know many people who still think this charlatan is a great patriot, walks on water, etc.
Sorry (not really), but this is straight up bull! Even if he did not go to church every Sunday or at all, there is nothing you can say to convince me that he did not know about Wright’s views or sermons. The men were friends for over 20 years!
I personally think Wright was upset because Obama hadn’t publicly shown the loyalty that Wright expected him to show.
I don’t think Obama used Wright. I think their friendship was sincere and give and take. Wright helped Obama out politically and when Obama was in a position to help Wright (as a state politician) he looked out for him, his causes and his church.
I have heard rumors about Obama and Wright but I am not going to go there. But I do believe that the friendship was very genuine. And unlike everyone else, Obama didn’t throw Wright under the bus until he had no choice and that was after Wright’s spectacle at the Book Club!
Why not?
I don’t like to spread rumors and it would be totally unfair for me to try to air something especially if I don’t know if it is true or not and can be very damaging.
I also believe every word and move involving the Obama and Wright relationship is planned and carefully scripted. It’s always another calculated stunt performed in order to protect the comrade. I still cannot believe this country has been duped to this magnitude.
Getting ready for 2012, that is what they are doing.. rewriting history. For 0bama to say he didn’t know Wright’s sermons because he was not a regular churchgoer, is another big lie. For 2012, not being a regular churchgoer is a better storyline than of him sitting in Wright’s church for 20 years.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised. Wolffe is totally shilling for Obama and will print anything he is told.
DITTO, on that! The effete Wolffe was total slave for Barry Soetoro during the election cycle…. I don’t believe one word from that phony supposed, unbiased reporter! If you can call him that?
If Obummer claims that he wasn’t in church for those sermons, he is lying(quell surprise!), at least about the anti-Clinton rant, the “riding dirty” one where Wright was humping the pulpit. At the end of the YouTube video of that tape, the last two or three frames, you can see Obummer, standing and laughing, wearing shirt sleeves, with Meechelle sitting right next to him. So he was there for at least one of them. I doubt he missed all of the rest of them.
When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago’s South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched. Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people — pastors and congregants — who took their churches and their church-going very seriously. Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, “Where do you go to Church, young man?”
So, Obama finally joined a church, in part to deepen what one friend called “a whole web of relationships” in the community that gave him a strong political base and a well-connected mentor.
In the paperback version of “The Audacity of Hope,” in the chapter entitled “Faith,” beginning on page 195, and ending on page 208, Obama is telling us that he doesn’t really have any profound religious belief, but that in his early Chicago days he felt he needed to acquire some spiritual “street cred.”
Therein lies 0bama’s chicanery. For people who want him religious, he has a church. For people who want to highlight his connection with Wright’s church (as a negative), he has no church.
yep. there are so many lies, peope can’t figure out the truth.
This is exactly what George W and Obams’s cousin Dick Cheney did.
“We know where those WMD’s are”
“No that’s not what I said”
is but one example.
I read recently that in his “Audacity of Hope” he wrote that BOTH his parents were athiests. He also admitted he thought it was important for his community organizing to join a church. I think he just out and out lied to Rick Warren that he accepted Jesus and became a Christian in that church. Had that happened, given his background, he would not be able to talk enough about it. He speaks very little about it and works against Christianity in many respects.
Boxer Asks General To Call Her “Senator” And Not “Ma’am”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/17/boxer_asks_general_to_call_her_senator_and_not_maam.html
Elitist Senator…
This is ridiculous………..AND it doesn’t really matter if oblhama was checked out during the sermons, supposedly. His ever so loving wife michelle heard every Gdamn word and I’m sure she injected the venom into Barry’s mind. Or was michelle checked out too?
0Fraud is one big lie after another…is anyone surprised? Noticed that Barry/Barack is getting a little gray these days?
I don’t buy the premise of this article at all. There are so many mistruths (lies) being spread to either cover up or deflect from the truth, that it is difficult to sort out. Obama knows/knew/endorsed/continues to endorse all the hate and venom of Wright and his church. I need to keep it simple. When so much crap is being hurled out there, reduce it to a simple thought. Obama is a lying creep and loses on both ends of this argument - nothing matters beyond that. Just stay focused on 2012 and work to get him out of the White House. As for Hillary, she will have to answer for her complicity in all of this. I am continually amazed at her 180 after the Primaries. In my book, if he was a lying sack of shit during the primaries -he’s still a lying sack of shit even if is the Nominee/President.
Enough said…
Mr Obama is a thug and a crook…
he cares about the people of this country and this country only insofar as they are a stepping stone to the world stage..which is where he really wants to be…
the American people have allowed themselves to get duped, and snookered by a flim-flam man..who very deftly scammed his way to the position of POTUS…
[you cannot make this stuff up really]
he is now in the process of eviscerating this country…and filling the coffers of the IMF…and whatever else we are not overtly privy to…
It is far too embarrassing to admit all of this subterfuge before the whole world, how debasing would that be for the most powerful country in the world to be totally taken in like this, by a little Kenyan narcissist…..
so it is going to ride at least for this term…
the damage that he will incur will be substantial..
and next time we will cast an informed vote..hopefully..
The legitimate president of this country, Hillary, is nursing a fractured elbow..
I would mis-step also
if I had to pay homage to such a creep…it would make my skin crawl
IT IS ABSOLUTELY UP TO US TO SEE TO IT THAT HE, AND HIS CRONIES GET ONE TERM ONLY….
THEY SHOULD ALL BE FIRED AT THE POLLS…WE NEED NEW BLOOD IN DC
Like I believe this author’s statements. Even the crowd was laughing. You see pictures of him being married, singing along with the choir and the lovely picture of Wright and Obama together.
When is going often (10 times out of the year and not 52)?
How about BHO tell us if he heard and sermon like that b/c in his famous RACE SPEECH, he said “yes he did”?
I’m personally very very pleased to hear about this. I was always hoping that Obama was just lying about being a big Christian to get votes. Why? Because I’m very very much against organized religion. Thank “God” Obama isn’t a real church goer IMO!
Obama isn’t a real anything. IMO
OK. Not really sure what that means, but if it makes you happy - go for it!
My attempts at levity sometime go awry.
The fact that this reveals our president is a lying opportunist that makes you happy? A fraud for a leader? If we cannot believe him about his supposed Christian experience (Rev. Wright led him to Christ, so he said) — then why should we believe him about healthcare? GM? The economy? Climate change? A LIAR HAS NO CREDIBIILITY - and neither do you, A-Nony-Mouse.
Oh please. All politicians lie about things like this. It’s sad that we have so many small minded people in this country that care about things like whether a candidate is religious or not but we do. And the simple fact is that a nonreligious person could not be elected President in the US in 2008. If Obama had to feign religiosity to get elected, good for him. I’m glad he’s not really religious because I greatly question the logical thinking ability of those who are overly religious.
And for those of you trying to pretend this is some new thing: Ronald Reagan wasnt religious. He almost never went to church. Yet his campaign was the first to really try to make use of the fundamentalist voting block. It’s all part of the game.
That much is true. This is just a game to him and his party. It is all about playing the game better, playing to “win”. Unfortunately him “winning” doesn’t help us much because he could care less about the job… just the next “win”. Without the smoke, he is just a mirror. He even said as much himself. He is the illusion of a President, and not a real President.
People of faith may or may not attend church. I’m one of them who rarely goes inside a church but I cannot imagine a day without prayer and thanksgiving to my Creator. You reveal an incredible lack of understanding about people of faith. You mentioned “small minded people.”
That seems an apt description for one who makes erroneous generalizations, such as yours about Reagan. Pick up a copy of Wolffe’s book; it was written for folks just like you.
Nony-Mouse, I couldn’t care less if the president is religious or not, but I insist on high moral and ethical values, honesty and trustworthiness.
But BO being a lier is ok with you?
So then where was he on Sundays? Possibly at the mosque of Louis Farrakahan in the same neighborhood as Trinity Church? He recently admits to being a helper to muslim families during his community organizing days, “to those who used islam to bring them peace”. Was he also attending these services along with his ‘constituents’? If so, Obama is a double liar (I was never a muslim). He is definitely a USER and has USED everyone in his life, LYING TO EVERYONE, agreeing with whatever philosophy and creed and bias anyone would have to get their support, get their money, sponsor him to satisfy his need to gain attention, power and some degree of validation in his life. I believe if all the records of his school applications, college records, loan or scholarship application/records, law school records, Law review, passport applications, birth records, were UNSEALED, we would have a much better view of just how much Obama has allowed these LIES to shape him and JUST HOW MUCH HE HAS LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Well Susan h! According to Larry Sinclair who is supposed to be writing a book regarding where Barry Soetoro was spending his time! Maybe he was riding around in Larry’s black Limo? Dick Wolffe was one of MSNBC and Newsweek’s most bised supporter for Barry Soetoro. Can this chaLaTan BE BELIEVED??? He must have hurt feelings, maybe Barry is not paying too much attention to him??? His book sounds alot like Corsi’s book. I don’t put too much credence in the effete’s Wolffe’s proganda for the phoney one!
propaganda…
Lying made 0bama president, his lying will end his presidency.(wait, u’til the fat lady sings). What I’m going to say, is not against Hillary.God knows, in any minut I would like to go back to the primaries, and turn the thinks in her favor. But, I have to say, accepting to make part of a administration based in cheat and lie, left a very sour test in my mouth. Reffering to a ” Gordian knot”. Suppose, three good friends, you are in the middle, loyal to both of them. But, one of your friend action, will destroy the other. What you will do? accept to stay by your other friend,even, he is using you in order to advance himself, or STAND UP FOR YOUR HONEST FIREND? Depends what is more important for you? loyal to what is fair or compromise your beliefs.
I think the more accurate way to see this metaphor is to recognize that one of the friends is her country, or to see it as her family.
If one part of your family is causing problems and can potentially hurt the rest of the family, one option is to stick close to that wayward family member, to keep an eye on them and try to minimize the damage.
Because families, life, and politics are complicated.
You could stand up for your family by verbally condeming the wayward member and isolating yourself from them, or you could follow the harder and more productive path, by doing more than talking (verbally condeming), and do what you can to help your famiy (State Dept) and stay in contact giving input to the problem family member.
That might explain his really odd behavior about his puppy. http://muttaqun.com/dogs.html
As a dog lover, I was struck by the way he spoke about Bo during the interview with Brian Williams. It seemed like he was someone who had no use for dogs at all. Poor Bo.
thats because muslims think dogs are filthy. he was forced to get that dog but dont expect to see him with the dog anytime soon.
It’s fun to imagine how Richard Wolffe got the scoop that the devout O really didn’t go to church much. In a magical moment of privileged access to The Presence, Thee One beckons him over and says, in a low voice,
“Richard,” (or does he call him ‘Dick’), “I decided I’m going to let you in on a little secret . . . ” Wolffe’s eyes widen as the Great O speaks near his ear, and his heart begins to go thumpity thumpity thumpity more rapidly in his chest . . . . “Now this is what journalism is really all about,” he thinks. He’s proud; he’s humbled; he’s profoundly grateful for this confidence . . . this privileged and exclusive access to the Real Truth . . .
I never thought Obama cared much about the UCC except for political power purposes.
What has always concerned me is what happens after the sermon Wright gave.
Obama and Wright are like father and son and Obama learned from his mentor the tools to hoodwink the gullible.
Wright and Obama spent hours together having dinner and sitting around talking.
There is NO WAY that Obama didn’t know in their entirety the works of Wright,Alinsky and Cone.
But…Obama DID hear Wright’s acid sermons and he REPEATED them!
Wolffe is full of chit. He’s lying to try to cover for Obama.
Watch Obama repeat all of Wright’s sermons, in a less acid tone (the pertinent part begins at the 6:00 mark):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs&feature=fvw
Even the style of BO’s bamboozin is taken from Wright.
Exactly! Everything in that video I posted shows without a shadow of a doubt that Obama believes and propagates everything Rev Wright has said. He just does so in a more saccharin way, so as not to scare whitey, whereas Rev Wright wants to scare whitey because he hates whites.
That’s who he really considered his father. Even wright himself says “Of course I voted for him; he’s my son. I’m proud of him”
yes.he learned it all from him.
I’d say he’s a creep if he did know what was going on in the church and he’s a creep if he didn’t–either way, to me, he comes out stinking.
Another reason Obama is bad for America:
Of the 13 countries who submitted 11 bids to host the 2018 World Cup, only one has a rock-star head of state, an advantage that Sunil Gulati says will help the United States win the right to host the tournament for a second time.
“Given everything that, frankly, President Obama has said, everything he stands for, everything he’s talked about in terms of reaching out to the world,” the U.S. Soccer Federation president said Monday, ”that trying to bring the global game to the United States and opening our borders up for a festival of 32 countries and hundreds of thousands of people from all corners of the world would be viewed in a very positive way.”
Gulati isn’t the only sports executive who thinks Obama’s popularity abroad will boost his country’s bid. The organizers behind Chicago’s bid to host the 2016 Olympics turned to Obama, who lived in Chicago and represented Illinois in the Senate, to give their effort a boost in November. Obama taped a video message that was shown to a meeting of European Olympic Committees in Instanbul in the fall.
This is snark right? Obama is bad for America because he’s going to help us get the world cup in 2018 and the olympics in 2016? …
The real folks in Chicago DO NOT WANT the Olympics. You already can’t drive to work on the jammed expressways, and we don’t want money diverted to “fix up” the areas on display. This is all about the crown jewel in Mayor Richie’s long reign and the contracts received and money made, probably off the backs of the taxpayers.
I’ve never been religious and I’m not religious. Yet, when I listened to the glib Richard Wolffe audio and heard people laughing at the deception that was pulled off, I felt bad. They were laughing because their hero is a liar? They laughed because their hero told a “noble lie” for the greater good? They laughed because in some way they were snubbing Americans who take religion seriously and bother to attend church at an appointed hour every week. To laugh at people who take these activities seriously..? Is that funny? This is sort of outrageous. This speaks to Obama’s character. If you’re not a religious person, be honest and just say so.
Wolfe retold this story as if it was something from “Oceans 11″ — “remember that time we had to pretend to be Christian to get elected President, and then we got elected and I was all ‘Sucker!?!’…? Yeah, good times.”
I actually hope this story gains some kind of traction on FNC and the mainstream media. This isn’t a simple issue of a man who doesn’t go to church that often. It’s about a man who basically isn’t religious and lied to your face about it because he doesn’t take all those ‘guns n’ religion/redneck teabaggers’ seriously.
Big problem with your scenario: Almost all politicians pretend to be more religious than they actually are including Saint Ronald Reagan and War Hero John McCain!
Pretending like this is something unusual is absolutely preposterous. Very few politicians are actually religious but they know a great deal of the uneducated masses are religious and won’t vote for an nonreligious person - thus the pretense. If you make a big deal about it with Obama then you have to do the same for all of the other faux religious politicians.
And you are forgeting that Obama ran as some sort of a pure soul who was above all of this sort of thing — that was really the only reason to vote for him. He would bring change, honesty and transparency to Washington. He was supposed to be an end to corruption — and people believed him.
We always knew he was a lying politician and you may have known it too. But the fact is he has a resume that fits on a postage stamp and little else to speak for him except the “above reproach” narrative he and Axelrod created. There are a lot of decent people out there who contributed more than they could afford to elect this man who is now continuing and expanding many of Bush’s policies and bailing out corporate interests while telling others to get lost.
I don’t like it — lies are nothing to laugh at.
Honor and Integrity in the White House
1800-2001
Transparency in the White House
1800-2009
RIP
I think there is a difference. It seems to me, that many politicians, similar to most of the country, believes in god, but they aren’t really into religion itself, into going to church, etc. But I do think they believe in god. Personally, I don’t believe Obama does - based on his words, behavior, and his book saying that he doesn’t really have religious feelings.
I’m agnostic, I have no idea if there is a god, so I don’t care if a politician believes there is or not. But I do care about the extent of this lying. A politician who believes in god, making themselves go to church for political reasons is bad, yes. But a politician who doesn’t even believe at all but saying that they do, is far worse. Especially when they’re pretending to have a belief that many people take very seriously. I mean, it’s SICK.
I don’t get why people choose to be religious, but I respect the fact that it’s very important to them. It’s so wrong to minimize that by pretending to be one of them.
Well said, lorac. That ‘respect’ that you offer is the tolerance that we Americans strive for and value.
I don’t see how this revelation about Obama playing the American people for fools will benefit him. Believers and non-believers alike will surely be repulsed by the revelations in Wolffe’s book.
And how would you know? Unless you are clairvoyant, your statement is meaningless. Try another unknown fact.
I have to be clairvoyant to have an opinion? If I were clairvoyant, it wouldn’t be an opinion.
Sorry, Ferd, I thought you were talking to me.
No problem, Lorac–I’ve done the same thing as it is sometimes difficult to see who is responding to which comment.
other politicians may be pretend to be more religious than they really are, buf few create a whole scenario in which they are “deeply spiritual” and stand in front of bunch of flags and lie about the intensity of thier religions convictions like in the “I can no more disown him. . .” b/s speech. That takes a special kind of creep.
“This isn’t a simple issue of a man who doesn’t go to church that often. It’s about a man who basically isn’t religious and lied to your face about it because he doesn’t take all those ‘guns n’ religion/redneck teabaggers’ seriously.”
Exactly. I’m agnostic, and I get tired of people assuming that if you don’t have religion, you must not be a moral or ethical person. I’ve always suspected Obama is either an atheist or agnostic, and for this to all be a big chuckle “ha ha I’m not religious, I’m better, I’m a liar and I got away with it” makes it look like it’s true, that if you aren’t religious you have no ethics. Thanks, Obama. You jerk.
The only comment I have is that being religious (frequenting a religious edifice regularly and/or reciting the Bible/Torah-Talmud/Koran/Tao-te-Ching/Bhagavad Gita regularly and beating others over the head with it) and being a person of spirit (ethical, moral, and centered) are two different things. That One could certainly be religious and not spiritual, thus finding a way to justify his thoughts and deeds. If spiritual, however, he could not so do. A somewhat appropriate analogy in the current vernacular is truthiness versus truth.
Oceans 11 an interesting analogy.
What is clear here is that BO is a liar. Many of his far-left supporters are happy about his lying about religion because they hate religion, and believe BO to be an atheist like themselves. BO’s Christian supporters simply took his word on faith, because they wanted also to believe.
What is the truth here? A self-serving narcissist politician who will bamboozle anyone or use anything for his advancement and continued adulation - there are likely no depths to which he will not stoop to reach his ends.
“A self-serving narcissist politician who will bamboozle anyone or use anything for his advancement and continued adulation - there are likely no depths to which he will not stoop to reach his ends.”
And worse than that - he has the arrogance to later blatently admit his deceptions, “Oh, well that was campaign speech, you know that excuses me”. Yeah, right.
First of all Wolffe isn’t writing a word that hasn’t been edited by Rahm and David. They are choosing the lesser of two evils–this fraud is so bad, such a radical that it’s better to call him a liar than to tell the actual truth, that he and Michelle, who were amrried by Wright and their children who were baptized by him, agree and support and live by the liberation theology of Wright. You see that’s so much worse, so much more dangerous and revealing than the fact that he just went there to get votes. You see we can live with that. We’re used to that in our politicians. Some of the above posts even validate this. So as with any propaganda, whether it’s coming from the Kremlin or the WH, they choose which lie is less incendiary for their leader. Wake up people.
So, he’s simply a lying politician?
In other news, the Sun is slightly warm.
In even better news, not only is he a liar, but worse yet, an incompetent.
My question is where does this leave the famous “race speech”. My biggest concern with that speech was that Obama did not address Wright’s comments especially the one about the government creating AIDS to kill blacks. Yet when Obama finally “disowned” Wright he claimed to be dismayed by that comment. My question is if you are going to give a speech precisely because you learned that your mentor had said things that upset people — does it not behoove you if you have a modicum of integrity, to find out what people are upset about? If Obama did know what Wright said then giving the speech as a US senator and presidential candidate, without denouncing that comment means he must agree with those sentiments. and if he gave the speech without knowing what Wright had said then he is a shallow empty bag of *$#@. I rather suspect the latter.
I continue to believe that the Obma team orchestrated Wright’s return so that Obama could publicly denounce him after the race speech failed to end the discussion. This book is just another attempt to publicly distance Obama from Wright and to make appear as if Obama was in control of the situation. In the meanwhile, I am sure that Obama and Wright remain kissing buddies in private.
Really, this is so sad.
The sheeples have been had.
Time to politically paralyze this very dangerous fraud. I hope these gutless politicians start to put two and two together (see the new polls on trust in Obama’s actions) and start covering their asses for the 2010 elections. They were on the Barry bandwagon when it was on the way up. Time to jump off as the wheels are starting to come off.
Palm Tree: there are likely no depths to which he will not stoop to reach his ends.
We are going to have to help our elected officials to see that he is radioactive, and they need to distance themselves.