I had the feeling Bill was very surprised about that. But, you know, Hillary can talk with anyone and it is always great - filled with little golden nuggets of one description or another.

Whatever groups that are left were and are just as silent about Hillary as they are about Palin. Laura Ingraham is like them as well, railing constantly about where are the feminists? Where is NOW like NOW is THE voice of liberal feminists.

Since you helped found one of the NOW Chapters, I’m sure with your leadership NOW was much more effective in combining many women’s issues and not the narrow view they have always had in most of their chapters. In the heat of the women’s movement in NC, NOW simply was not that strong. The Women’s Political Caucus way outnumbered them and trumped their effectiveness because of that group’s continuous lobbying and interaction with legislators, congress people, and most elected officials. I do realize that was not the case every where. Today, NOW should not be looked at as “THE VOICE” of women, although I’m afraid it is.

How do you like my usage? hehee!

The Ones that OWN the ONE have WON!
(but ONE is the loneliest number)

especially when it’s flying over the cuckoo nest!

as the ONE FLEW (who knew?)

BTW, I wish I could remember the article, but just the other day I read a piece written by a woman about Hillary and she described what she was wearing! It wasn’t a negative piece by any measure but still, why must a woman’s appearance be part of the story?

To try to offer a slightly different take on this:

There’s a huge amount of interest all over the world in Hillary as SOS — what she’s doing, thinking — and yes, what she’s wearing. I really don’t have a problem with this. I know that Hillary has been looking very good in her post as SOS and I am sure she puts a lot of thought and time into her appearance. So, if people notice her outfits or hairstyles that she has gone to some effort to make attractive, that can only be for the good, IMO.

If you read blogs devoted to Hillary, many of the comments will center on her pantsuits, her hair (which she changes frequently), her jewelry (much of which Bill buys for her, apparently). But does anyone doubt that these bloggers take Mme. Secretary seriously? She is not a “cupcake”, by any means. But people do appreciate an attractive, strong woman, and they are respectful of her position while admiring her style.

I have a problem with people attacking Hillary for her appearance — as has happened so often in the past, and I have a problem with them not taking her seriously as a world leader. But if we like her new hairstyle, I think it’s fine to say so. JMO.

“And classism, as a previous poster noted earlier in this thread.”

I am not really against the “classics”.

I do not support Palin’s politics — I am not a conservative. But I will certainly back her up as a woman battling sexism and misogyny. And classicism, as a previous poster noted earlier in this thread.

Excellent post. We are certainly deteriorating as a country by letting this kind of behavior go unpunished. And it is very true that we do lose our moral authority, telling other countries to treat women better when we do this — and so many women are still on the receiving end of violence.

Further, Letterman’s behavior is typical of the type of man (and some women) who hate confrontation and don’t ever want to be called on the carpet — they cannot ever admit they are wrong so it’s always about some schoolboy sheepish crap that they were “misunderstood”. He is 62. Grow up, Dave.

He expected Hillary and Sarah and their families to take the endless filth that he dished out without comment and now he can’t even take his own lumps like a grown-up. Unbelievable.

If any one of these neanderthals like him, Maher, Matthews, Olbermann, Leno and the like had ever been on the receiving end of this firestorm of disrespect, vitriol and crass put downs, they would alternately be crying foul at the top of their lungs, and curled up in a corner in the fetal position.

Letterman is a big baby — with all that he has in his life, he cannot even find the humility to admit he was wrong.

What kind of sexuality is OK for you?

I can’t believe I’m answering this, but here goes: Julia, I like kind sweet intimate love between consenting adults. I hate cruelty, either physical or emotional. As to “the kind of sexuality we have done, brutal and violent,” I can only say, I’m not part of that “we.” I don’t demonize masturbation, and if a naked drawing or picture helps a lonely person to get it on with his or her own imagination, then fine. It’s OK with me. Violent images are another matter: that’s not OK with me. The Playboy bit on the “conservative women hate list” crossed that line.

Both Hillary and Sarah confused the masculinity issue in the election, and therefore threatened the status quo: the former being a brainy and tough leader/mother who commands respect, and the latter being a frontier woman, leader/mother, and beauty queen to boot.

In other words they both broke the mold, and thus put a certain type of masculinity on notice. Misogyny and sexism are the ways to put women back in their place (e.g. Michelle and Laura Bush).

so I think she’s leaning left to start with
as left as you can lean and still work for Faux Fox

but then a LOT of people claim to be Dems or Reps and then when you watch them vote or act it screams something else (aka Lieberdon’t, Hagel, BenNelson or even the aristocat (blonde) in Louisiana

all puzzling to me

I left a comment earlier regarding “hate sex” that hasn’t posted yet. Lost in the spam filter?

That’s OK with you?? well, you should think again. What kind of sexuality is OK for you? Playboy is a sexist sexuality. The problem isn’t the sexuality (or masturbation obviously) but the kind of sexuality we have done, brutal and violent.

I remember a particularly startling quote from one of the blogger boys during the general (I don’t remember his name, but I’ll post if I find it).

He set it up by saying he had a really understanding girlfriend. So understanding that she was willing to enable his fantasy of f***ing Palin on his Barack Obama sheets while his girlfriend read aloud from the Constitution.

I kid you not. I’ll never forget the cold feeling that went through my body when I read that. I really started to appreciate how mistaken I was about the progress of America in eradicating sexism.

Clearly, we were fair game, and no-one bothered to hide it anymore.