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		<title>By: skinny malinky</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221583</link>
		<dc:creator>skinny malinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how somehow my screenname implie stupidity, while yours implies what, genius?

Have you ever considered that the US could probably hide whatever trail the serial numbers might provide?  Or that there are probably other ways to help the protesters that could be done covertly?  I was just continuing the example Larry used.

And yeah, it&#039;s so much better to have small-minded people who insult anyone who disagrees with them voting.  Excellent point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how somehow my screenname implie stupidity, while yours implies what, genius?</p>
<p>Have you ever considered that the US could probably hide whatever trail the serial numbers might provide?  Or that there are probably other ways to help the protesters that could be done covertly?  I was just continuing the example Larry used.</p>
<p>And yeah, it&#8217;s so much better to have small-minded people who insult anyone who disagrees with them voting.  Excellent point.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221429</link>
		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever consider that the U.S government could get cellphones made without serial numbers? Putz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever consider that the U.S government could get cellphones made without serial numbers? Putz.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221405</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right you are, I had my year wrong:  The Berlin Olympics were 1936.  But I still contend the point is valid.  Official state persecution of the Jewish people in Germany was well underway by then:  The previous year laws were passed denying Jews all voting rights, prohibiting them from holding any public office, firing them from all civil service jobs, restricting them from most professions, forbidding them to marry non-Jews, and forbidding Jewish children from playing on public playgrounds.  It was also obvious that Germany was building an offensive war machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right you are, I had my year wrong:  The Berlin Olympics were 1936.  But I still contend the point is valid.  Official state persecution of the Jewish people in Germany was well underway by then:  The previous year laws were passed denying Jews all voting rights, prohibiting them from holding any public office, firing them from all civil service jobs, restricting them from most professions, forbidding them to marry non-Jews, and forbidding Jewish children from playing on public playgrounds.  It was also obvious that Germany was building an offensive war machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221340</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Carter let the Iranian Revolution overthrow the shah’s regime in ‘79.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Carter didn&#039;t &quot;let&quot; anything happen. It was not his or ours to change. The Shah, himself, gave it up because the Iranian people had had enough of his dictatorship and there was little or nothing he could do to stop it, especially since he was so ill at the time. I am hoping something like that will occur this time, but with much different results. The bottom line is that despots are despots, no matter which extreme in ideology they embrace and when the people have had enough, they will make their desires known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Carter let the Iranian Revolution overthrow the shah’s regime in ‘79.</p></blockquote>
<p>Carter didn&#8217;t &#8220;let&#8221; anything happen. It was not his or ours to change. The Shah, himself, gave it up because the Iranian people had had enough of his dictatorship and there was little or nothing he could do to stop it, especially since he was so ill at the time. I am hoping something like that will occur this time, but with much different results. The bottom line is that despots are despots, no matter which extreme in ideology they embrace and when the people have had enough, they will make their desires known.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221339</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FDR had the same reasoning concerning Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan until Pearl Harbor&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If by this statement you are saying that FDR was not interested until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor is outright wrong. The Lend-Lease Act went into effect prior to Pearl Harbor and FDR actually sent ships to Britain prior to the law taking effect (thus actually violating American law at the time). FDR understood that if England went, we would be in a terrible fix. FDR, in addition, had to fight the American public&#039;s disposition of the time, which was isolationist--no mean feat, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FDR had the same reasoning concerning Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan until Pearl Harbor</p></blockquote>
<p>If by this statement you are saying that FDR was not interested until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor is outright wrong. The Lend-Lease Act went into effect prior to Pearl Harbor and FDR actually sent ships to Britain prior to the law taking effect (thus actually violating American law at the time). FDR understood that if England went, we would be in a terrible fix. FDR, in addition, had to fight the American public&#8217;s disposition of the time, which was isolationist&#8211;no mean feat, that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221336</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It was not at all clear, in 1936, what Hitler’s intentions were or what they would ultimately be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, it was very clear what his intentions were as he ordered german troops to reoccupy the demilitarized zone in the Rhineland in 1936. I&#039;m certain the French knew what was about to transpire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was not at all clear, in 1936, what Hitler’s intentions were or what they would ultimately be.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, it was very clear what his intentions were as he ordered german troops to reoccupy the demilitarized zone in the Rhineland in 1936. I&#8217;m certain the French knew what was about to transpire.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article on the Twitter overload.  
http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article on the Twitter overload.<br />
<a href="http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221333</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The simple truth is that the Iranians have their future in their own hands. It is not up to the US or the Western world to tell them what to do, how to do it, or when to do it.  The meddling of the West in the affairs of the ME has a long history of abject failure and long-term consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple truth is that the Iranians have their future in their own hands. It is not up to the US or the Western world to tell them what to do, how to do it, or when to do it.  The meddling of the West in the affairs of the ME has a long history of abject failure and long-term consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: nickoury</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221328</link>
		<dc:creator>nickoury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ziggy,

THERE WERE NO OLYMPIC GAMES IN 1938 .

The 1936 Summer Olympics were held in Berlin, get your history straight, even if it&#039;s only from Wikipedia. 
It was not at all clear, in 1936, what Hitler&#039;s intentions were or what they would ultimately be.

Please get your facts in order before trying to make a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ziggy,</p>
<p>THERE WERE NO OLYMPIC GAMES IN 1938 .</p>
<p>The 1936 Summer Olympics were held in Berlin, get your history straight, even if it&#8217;s only from Wikipedia.<br />
It was not at all clear, in 1936, what Hitler&#8217;s intentions were or what they would ultimately be.</p>
<p>Please get your facts in order before trying to make a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot librarian</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221321</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amost all nations have inbuilt security systems to guard against massive populist swings. 

These are usually Senates .It is never one man one vote in these houses. Rhode Island gets 2 votes with 300,000 people ?California gets 2 with 50 million.

The British House of Lords was 100% hereditary  very recently -even now political friends &amp; donors can be appointed.

USA does not even have a central registry of voters &amp; every state registers &amp; counts differently.

I doubt whether there is one nation worldwide where one vote per person is actually an equal vote.Iran gives MALE  expatriots &amp; their MALE offspring voting rights. even though they may never have been to ran.

Lebanon pays to bring voters back .Kuwait did not give women a vote till the 21st century.

Mississippi had less than 20% of blacks registered in the 1960s -often because of intimidation.

Apples &amp; oranges -every election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amost all nations have inbuilt security systems to guard against massive populist swings. </p>
<p>These are usually Senates .It is never one man one vote in these houses. Rhode Island gets 2 votes with 300,000 people ?California gets 2 with 50 million.</p>
<p>The British House of Lords was 100% hereditary  very recently -even now political friends &amp; donors can be appointed.</p>
<p>USA does not even have a central registry of voters &amp; every state registers &amp; counts differently.</p>
<p>I doubt whether there is one nation worldwide where one vote per person is actually an equal vote.Iran gives MALE  expatriots &amp; their MALE offspring voting rights. even though they may never have been to ran.</p>
<p>Lebanon pays to bring voters back .Kuwait did not give women a vote till the 21st century.</p>
<p>Mississippi had less than 20% of blacks registered in the 1960s -often because of intimidation.</p>
<p>Apples &amp; oranges -every election.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221302</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Administrator: Can my comment be rescued from the shredder?

Thanks

Ferd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Administrator: Can my comment be rescued from the shredder?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Ferd</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221300</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If the US uses covert resources to supply protesters with cell phones, etc, the Iranians will have a difficult time proving that these came from the US. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are as stupid as your name implies, Skanky. In case you weren&#039;t aware, all cellphones have serial numbers. Any enterprising person can figure that out. A little arm-twisting here; a little there, and the makers will fork over the info to the Iranian government.

It is you who has little understanding of much of anything, moron. God, it&#039;s no wonder we&#039;re screwed with idiot-savants like you voting. Why don&#039;t you shut your silly little piehole?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If the US uses covert resources to supply protesters with cell phones, etc, the Iranians will have a difficult time proving that these came from the US. </p></blockquote>
<p>You are as stupid as your name implies, Skanky. In case you weren&#8217;t aware, all cellphones have serial numbers. Any enterprising person can figure that out. A little arm-twisting here; a little there, and the makers will fork over the info to the Iranian government.</p>
<p>It is you who has little understanding of much of anything, moron. God, it&#8217;s no wonder we&#8217;re screwed with idiot-savants like you voting. Why don&#8217;t you shut your silly little piehole?</p>
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		<title>By: skinny malinky</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221289</link>
		<dc:creator>skinny malinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SJ, do you support an Iranian government that wants to wipe Israel off the map, that wants to build a nuclear arsenal, that oppresses women and routinely abuses human rights?

Why do you keep posting things that make it sound like Iran is in the right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SJ, do you support an Iranian government that wants to wipe Israel off the map, that wants to build a nuclear arsenal, that oppresses women and routinely abuses human rights?</p>
<p>Why do you keep posting things that make it sound like Iran is in the right?</p>
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		<title>By: skinny malinky</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/22/obamas-iran-trap/#comment-1221283</link>
		<dc:creator>skinny malinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have much understanding of the situation.  If Obama speaks &quot;forcefully&quot; then Iran has evidence of US meddling, and the protesters become supporters of US policies, and thus delegitimized.  I think I just made up a word there.

If the US uses covert resources to supply protesters with cell phones, etc, the Iranians will have a difficult time proving that these came from the US.  If 100 people give 100 cell phones away saying that someone in Iran wants them given to protesters and wants to be anonymous because he fears government reprisal, how is the Iranian military going to disprove that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have much understanding of the situation.  If Obama speaks &#8220;forcefully&#8221; then Iran has evidence of US meddling, and the protesters become supporters of US policies, and thus delegitimized.  I think I just made up a word there.</p>
<p>If the US uses covert resources to supply protesters with cell phones, etc, the Iranians will have a difficult time proving that these came from the US.  If 100 people give 100 cell phones away saying that someone in Iran wants them given to protesters and wants to be anonymous because he fears government reprisal, how is the Iranian military going to disprove that?</p>
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		<title>By: lorac</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops!  I just said almost exactly this below.  I totally agree with you.  I think people are just trying to couch this situation in black/white terms in order to make BO look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops!  I just said almost exactly this below.  I totally agree with you.  I think people are just trying to couch this situation in black/white terms in order to make BO look good.</p>
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