Comments on: Panetta Continues The CIA’s Culture Of Covering Up Abuses And Crimes

By: Helen Anderson

Helen Anderson — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:25:59 +0000

I wish someone from the CIA would come out and expose the things they have done and are doing! I really believe that they do more harm they good, and most of them have gone mad with power. If you search the most evil human experiments, it is usually the secret government agencies that are the masterminds and that scares the cahoonies out of me!

By: vireo

vireo — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:40:53 +0000

See the latest Cannonfire post for a summary of Obama’s probable CIA roots.

By: Glennmcgahee

Glennmcgahee — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:45:22 +0000

Think about how all this throws a kink into Obama’s plan to open a dialogue with Iran. Hillary said it was naive. But the most startling part to me is seeing all of the “change” signs being held up by the protesters in Iran. Now where could they have gotten those signs? Is this what we might have seen here when Donna Brazille threatened that there would be blood in the streets if Obama did not get the nomination? There will be no transfer of power in Iran unless we have decided to meddle once again in their mess of a gov’t over there. We’ve done it before and each time we fucked up by installing sonething far worse than existed in the first place. Sure the CIA is in place over there. They’ve always been there I bet. Why do you think these countries keep accusing us of interfering.Obama just keeps his mouth shut so he can adapt to whatever outcome and claim thats what he had planned all along. He’s so smart. Another speech in Cairo is called for. The wimin’s don’t want to wear their hajib over there. Thats very important to Obama, they must wear them, he told us how importatnt it was.

By: Animal Control

Animal Control — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:11:32 +0000

Does the CIA really exist ?

This is one of those misdirection questions correct?

By: foxyladi14

foxyladi14 — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:46:56 +0000

indeed he owns this one..

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:46:03 +0000

When first posted the author was “by Ray McGovern”.

If it was Ray or Mel the facts are the same.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:53:04 +0000

Thanks!

By: Animal Control

Animal Control — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:30:59 +0000

He is acting as if he was completely caught off-guard

In the memorable words of Sarget Schultz–I KNOW NOOOOTHING!

By: Animal Control

Animal Control — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:51:28 +0000

Nothing wrong with your memory but it appears your confidence level is a little low. You know what you know–go for it.

By: Lily

Lily — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:36:51 +0000

I’m not a scholar, or a journalist, or a politician, or a soldier, but I am an interested observer of the CIA culture. I have to conclude from everything that I have ever read about that organization that the CIA is a perversion and a monstrosity. Collecting and analyzing intelligence is one thing; covert operations are something entirely different. And I would dispute anyone who claims that deception is essential to protecting destructive military technologies or national defense priorities. As far as I can tell, anyone who ventures into the highest realms of CIA administration does so at the risk of losing his soul.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:30:10 +0000

Animal control—-thanks! I’m in my mid-60’s and worry about my short term memory sometimes!

By: NYCgirl

NYCgirl — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:09:01 +0000

Is it possible that Obama did not KNOW that there was a covert CIA operation ready to roll in Iran as soon as their elections took place? He is acting as if he was completely caught off-guard by the alleged “stolen election” and the subsequent protests, which seemed staged to me from the get-go.

If he really was in the dark about the CIA stirring the pot over there, that would explain his silence and indecision. He can’t exactly stand there and say, “Wow! Look what’s going on!” On the other hand he can’t get up there and defend the bogus “people’s revolution” either, knowing it’s a sham, and not knowing where that would lead him. And on the third hand, as much as he might want to, he cannot publicly blame the CIA’s involvement on Bush/Cheney without giving away all of the above that I just mentioned.

By: Diana L. C.

Diana L. C. — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:02:48 +0000

It appears to me that Washington D.C. has become like many small towns: Everyone knows everyone. Your neighbor may drink too much and cheats on his wife, but–hey–he’s a good guy and did a great job as the coach of your son’s little league team. Your other neighbor is a terrible elementary school teacher, but she works tirelessly for your church social committee, so don’t say anything about the terrible education those kids in her class are receiving. The newly hired teacher for your child’s school is the daughter of a city banker, so don’t bring up the fact that she got terrible grades in college, had to have intervention to get her degree, and was hired over way better qualified applicants from out of town.

I’m guessing there is too much “inbreeding” in the capital of our country. Can we just start over somewhere else with a new slate of players?

By: I'm a Linda too

I'm a Linda too — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:09:41 +0000

Wow, much info and sad to see every part of this administsration, from the Exec branch to the CIA, is all bull and their transparency only referred to them, how we could see through him when it mattered and could have made the difference our counry needed after 8 years of Bush.

Now we’re kneed deep in Bush 3.0 term, but much worse in many ways, only his idealism is far on the other side, strangling us while bleading us dry.

I can hope Panetta is trying to do some damage control, especially after seeing Obama willing and did release info that could hurt them and Pelosi making her charges and then will clean up ops, but as you point out by folks he’s bringing on board, that leaves doubt.

By: Animal Control

Animal Control — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:38:46 +0000

No, it’s not you it was there yesterday. As for who is is?????????????????????

By: Cindy

Cindy — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:19:52 +0000

Who is Ray McGovern? His name was on this post last night, and since I don’t drink, I can’t say I saw something that wasn’t there and blame it on moonshine.

By: jason

jason — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:03:07 +0000

Hi there. This article was actually written by Mel Goodman.

By: elise

elise — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:31:26 +0000

I hope these links are wrong, but wouldn’t be surprised to learn otherwise. Regime change in Iran was high on the Bush/Cheney list of things to do.

Is Obama in control of intelligence agencies and does he have information that would clarify the situation? Why isn’t he “leading” instead of allowing others to control the message? If this is a CIA operation and not a genuine revolt, he should openly reject any interference in the elections of another country. On the other hand, if it is real and not staged, he should speak out more forcefully on possible human rights abuses.

He has been indecisive and tentative in his response and if there is fallout, he won’t be able to blame Bush for this one.

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:27:04 +0000

Russians? They have financed Irans Nuke plant…
Mossad? They need intel not riots in the street and crack downs on those samesources

The CIA? same thing.

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:55:46 +0000

Ray McGovern writes a very interesting article. In his view Panetta is not all he said he would be.

The only point I would make is that the buck stop on and AT Obama’s Resolute desk.

Two things can’t true in this case at the same time.

The first is that BO is control of the intelligence forces of this country and condones / ordered Panetta to do what he is doing / not doing and all that talk of transparency is indeed bullshit…or

BO is attempting to be transparent and is finding he is NOT in control of the intellegence asetts of this country.

Either senerio leads down a bad road, as I take Ray McGovern’s comment at face value.

Clandestine officials have a great interest in making sure that the Senate intelligence committee does not receive the worst of the evidence from the investigation.