The President Slams His Sycophants, His Policies and His Staff at Dinner
By Ani on June 22, 2009 at 10:01 PM in Arrogance, Barack Obama, Buffoon, Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Oprah, President Barack Obama
President Obama spoke at the TV and Radio Correspondents’ Dinner on Saturday, where some of his jokes reflected a greater attachment to truth than he finds necessary in any of his speeches or press conferences. Although, like his predecessor, who chose to joke about looking for WMDs under the podium when delivering a speech, I can’t find very much of what Mr. Obama says very amusing. CQPolitics has the entire transcript of his remarks, but here is a sampling for your listening and dining pleasure:
I want to express my appreciation for the opportunity to tell jokes that weren’t funny enough for me to use when we did this five weeks ago. (Laughter.) Whatever. (Laughter.) The jokes may not be as good, but neither is the guest list. (Laughter.) I’m just joking. For me, there’s no contest. Why bother hanging out with celebrities when I can spend time with the people who made me one? (Laughter.) I know where my bread is buttered.
I should say so, Mr. President. The Press threw a yearlong party for you and stuck us with the bill. This video captures part of his remarks:
It is great to be here with so much talent from the world of TV and radio. Despite the flood of new media, I think your programming is more relevant than ever before. At least, that’s the impression I get when I read the blogs every day. (Laughter.)
I appreciate his compliment. Surely big media is increasingly irrelevant while citizen journalists on blogs like this one are doing a helluva lot more to hold our representatives’ feet the fire. Wonder how the Press who have been disseminating his Kool-Aid feel about being told they are, collectively, “his bitch?” The camera cut away to Chris Matthews not looking at all amused. Whatsamatter, Chris, are ya’ pissed the President doesn’t get a tingle up his leg about you?
Mika Brzezinski is here, I believe, in the house. (Applause.) Mika and I have a lot in common. We both have partners named Joe who used to be in Congress and don’t know when to stop talking. (Laughter.)
Gee, I guess Scarborough being the only holdout on MSNBC who thinks our President is kinda goofy has not escaped Obama’s notice. It seems quite narcissistic to so closely monitor every single lowly person who has the temerity to criticize you. But surely VP Biden has done just as much in that regard – thanks, Joe – both of you!
And President Obama cannot help but insult his own senior staff. He talked about wanting to turn Larry Summers into a hologram – you ain’t alone, Mr. President. And of course the evening would not be complete without deriding his very successful and very popular Secretary of State and intimating that her staff wants to maim her:
Now, one person that you know could not be here tonight is Secretary Hillary Clinton. As most of you know, Hillary broke her elbow a few days ago on her way to the White House. And we all wish her a very speedy recovery. I do have to say, though, that while it’s been reported as an accident, there were some suspicious. (Laughter.) Just before the incident, Secret Service spotted Richard Holbrooke spraying WD-40 — (laughter) — all over the driveway. (Laughter.)
No, Mr. President, but I wonder if that’s what you wanted to do – (laughter) – all during the Primary. (laughter).
Not surprisingly, Andrea Mitchell was the one who laughed the loudest at the President’s joke. Why shouldn’t she? She had plenty WD-40 of her own waiting for Hillary last year.
But this is the piece de resistance:
I have to admit, though, it wasn’t easy coming up with fresh material for this dinner. A few nights ago, I was up tossing and turning, trying to figure out exactly what to say. Finally, when I couldn’t get back to sleep, I rolled over and asked Brian Williams what he thought. (Laughter and applause.)
Good one, Mr. President. Brian Williams certainly is in bed with you. Yes, it’s all said in jest, but I wonder if deep down it irks Williams, aka “Mr. Gravitas,” that the man to whom he just bowed his head in an interview sees fit to humiliate him in public. Well, Brian, you broke it, you bought it.
The President then pointed out to more laughter out how “ABC is planning a series called “Dancing with the Czars.” Yeah, let’s celebrate the fact that the people supposed to be doing their jobs can’t do their jobs because we have all these “czars” in the way running interference at every turn. Wow. That is side splitting.
Look, it’s nothing personal, but this dinner conflicts with my date night. (Laughter.) I was supposed to be going out with Michelle for Thai food. In Bangkok. (Laughter and applause.)
That’s a laugh riot! Unemployment keeps rising but you keep making jokes about giving us bread and circuses, spending taxpayer money on these extravagant personal junkets. George Bush got himself into a lot of trouble for giving the impression he was “fiddling while Rome burns.” Let’s see how this behavior works out for you with the voters…
I found this next section particularly telling:
Of course, most of my attention has been focused here back home. As you know, we’ve been working around the clock to repair our major financial institutions and our auto companies. But you probably wouldn’t understand the concept of troubled industries, working as you do in the radio and television.
AUDIENCE: Oooh!
THE PRESIDENT: Oh — we don’t joke about that, huh? (Laughter.) That’s not funny. (Laughter.)
I realize some may hate Hollywood or news networks and blame them for electing Obama, but be aware there are many honorable rank and file folks in TV, radio and film who may not agree with his politics but they still have to feed their families – they are unemployed now too. This is a multi-billion dollar industry that helps keep our country afloat, as much as any other successful industry does. To deride it seems rather ungracious to me. But why not, Mr. President, you’ve got your book deal, right?
And after he made jokes about his fly swatting prowess…here’s a few more tasty treats:
Now, the challenges we face are many, and I’ll be honest — I don’t have all the answers. And when I’m not sure what’s right, I often ask myself, “WWLD?” What would a wise Latino do? …
(snip)
Another difficult challenge is how to help our automakers thrive in the 21st century. We’ve tried a number of different approaches, and tonight, I’m announcing a new one. It’s a plan passed on to me by a close friend and advisor, Oprah Winfrey. So if each of you will look under your seat, you find that — (laughter) — you get a car company! (Laughter.) You get a car company! And FOX — you get AIG. (Laughter.) Enjoy!The truth is, as I’ve said all along, I have no ambition to run an auto company. I’m not the salesman-in-chief. And GM will rise or fall on the quality of its products — like the taut, athletic design of the new Buick Enclave. (Laughter.) It’s French-seamed leather and warm wood tones make the Enclave more than transportation. (Applause.) It’s a modern driver’s retreat. (Laughter.) Come on, work with me here. I’ve got cars to move, people! (Applause.)
It makes me so happy that the President can mine so much good comedy material from our economic problems and his horrid policies; buying an automaker that even he does not think is much good. Mission Accomplished, Mr. President. Oops. Sorry. That was the other one who said that. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
In closing, the President said the following:
…[D]espite the jokes I’ve told, I’m here tonight because I appreciate the work that all of you do and the role that you play. You report the news as it happens, and you’re covering history as it’s made. With a handheld camera or a mic, or now even a cell phone or a blog, you bring the truth to people and allow people to bring truth to the world.
Well, I’m not sure who in our fourth estate is bringing the truth to the world anymore, but perhaps some of them will take the President’s suggestion to heart and find a way to do their jobs again.
























The major joke at that dinner was Obama himself, but he’s the kind of joke that is not funny in the least.
that would be nice.but journalism died in 08.
That’s when it died? Not in the build up the Iraq war? Not throughout Reagan’s Presidency? Hmm… Selective memory?
He’s roasting his own administration? Rimshots?
In these dire times, the performance does not rate one uneasy snicker from the corner of the room.
Imagine FDR doing this in the midst of the depression.
Yuk it up sycophantic bozos.
Please replace Letterman with Obama. At least he would be on TV only once a day and the jokes are of the same caliber.
I don’t think they get it, everything he said, he meant, he always does. Those people are just too STUPID to get that he was mocking them. Look at me, I am so cool and I kill you with jokes and you don’t even feel the knife going in. He is a sicko!
Like his giggling on 60 minutes! “Gallows Humor” he called it, well he knew he’d already bankrupted us! Just too funny. This guy is a MAJOR PSYCHOWHACKJOB he needs a straight jacket and a fly buzzing around in a padded room like at the end of the movie Psycho.
We must never stop challenging that he’s OBVIOUSLY ineligible, on a daily basis and realize he is not a president, he is not one about whom to bicker over policies, he is an ineligible usurper and he is literally at war with America. Until we embrace that reality he will pick away chip away until we’ve nothing left!
Lord, I love this site. They let crazy people say whatever they feel like, and nobody says boo about it. The only “wrong” thing you can say here is that maybe Obama isn’t horrible. This place is priceless.
It truly is. It’s like all of the craziest people on the internet have come here. They are joining together to make some kind of new level of crazy that has never been reached before.
Wow… yes… embrace that “reality” and you may end up in a white room with padded walls.
Obama has sold out America at every turn and at every opportunity, violating laws and the Constitution on a regular and frequent basis. The firing of Walpin and four other inspectors, violated his own law. And the fact that he can never be a natural born citizen, which he agrees to as cosponsor of Senate Resolution 511 which defines natural born citizen, show arrogant disdain for the Constitution.
Just because his supporters allow this fraud usurper a pass does not make him a legal president.
Obama invites fascist murderous Iranian regime to White House for July 4th Barbeque:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hMtZsaQT4cTxcgA51WrpiUS6cWGg
You are absolutely insane.
You absolutely have no facts, only ridicule. So, STFU unless you can dispute anything based on facts.
Ick! Mouse Droppings!
Get out the gluetraps!
R.O.F.L.A.O.
You can now get “Where’s the birth certificate yard signs”. I will display mine without fear. I really don’t care what anyone thinks. I am still a free American and would bet big money Obama is an Indonesian citizen, making him ineligible. If Ahs and Anonymouse think Obama is sane, well, then I’d just as soon they think I am crazy. To me it’s a compliment, relatively speaking.
Apuzzo’s case WILL proceed and Obama’s legal team which illegally uses taxpayer dollars and campaign contributions to prevent the showing of his bonafides, is going to FAIL.
Nine unanimous state grand juries have found Obama guilty of treason and of being a usurper.
Tell the bots to go back to their ridicule since they have no facts, no legal precedents, no bonafides to back up their cultmaster who in writing, agrees that he is an ineligible usurper.
I think it’s a good idea that all of you nutters get that sign, that way everyone will know where the crazy people live.
What’s most crazy about this whole “birth certificate” insanity is that Obama has actually shown a copy of his birth certificate (which is all you can get sent to you, if you’ve ever had a BC sent to you, you would know that reality) which is more than I can remember any other political candidate ever doing.
And the whole thing about “how about his ORIGINAL birth certificate” is certifiably insane. You do realize that Hawaii only has birth certificates on record for people born in Hawaii, right? Why would they have a BC for someone born in another country? That doesn’t make any sense. By definition if Hawaii has that BC on record then he was born in Hawaii. And since Obama had a copy of his Hawaii BC sent to him (which he displayed on his website) … case closed.
You really are going to have to find something better to get in a tizzy about if you don’t want everyone with basic intellectual skills making fun of you.
Suzie: You really should not counter your cultmaster because it is He Himself who says that a natural born citizen is born of TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS ON US SOIL.
Or, are really too too stupid to understand that he is on the legal record defining himself as NOT a natural born citizen?
Tsk tsk, both stupid and insane, poor suzie.
Barry Goldwater (1909–1998) was born in Phoenix, in what was then the Arizona Territory of the United States. During his presidential campaign in 1964, there was a minor controversy over Goldwater’s having been born in Arizona when it was not yet a state.
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GIGGLES!
Suzie go back to 3rd grade and read Article II s.1 of the US Constitution, then get back to us about whether any US citizen can be POTUS, mmkay stupid?
Tminu, the Lord of the Flies has dispatched his loyal subjects to stick up for His dignity. They’re not worth swatting.
Do you really think if there was any real question of Obama’s eligibility to be President that Clinton & McCain wouldn’t have raised holy hell about it? Try to be rational.
This has always puzzled me, but I think that Clinton and McCain were both trying to take the high road in this matter, especially with the delicacy of the “racism” issue. I think they both figured they could defeat Obama without using the eligibility issue.
Why would you think that? Obama had a clear advantage in the Dem primaries for months - during that time Clinton could have raised the issue if there was any merit to it.
Likewise McCain was getting trounced in the polls for months. He could have raised the issue if there was any merit to it.
The reason the issue was never raised is obvious: There is no merit to it.
McCain was NEITHER a natural born citizen himself and he knew his personal liability was equal to his ambition for president.
That’s why the Democrats wanted McCain! McCaskill tried TWICE to get a resolution to redefine a natural born citizen, S.R. 51l attempt #2 was cosponsored by Barack Obama back April 2008. That’s when he knowingly defined a natural born citizen as jus soli jus sanguinus, the standard codified definition since 1748 (”La Loi Des Gens” Vattel, the basis of the US Constitution), which has been since ruled as such by SCOTUS several times.
McCain had no business purporting to be a Republican OR that he was eligible.
He was born in Panama before the military base was even built—by FIVE YEARS!.
Ask yourself WHY WOULD DEMOCRATS MCCASKILL AND OBAMA BE HELPING MCCAIN TO GET A RESOLUTION DEFINING HIM AS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN? It was both to nail his ass to the wall saying “we know you’re not eligible so you’d better not say anything about Obama not being eligible either”, mutual blackmail, and a way to promote a non-threatening opponent. McCaskill was drooling over VP slot which went to Biden for Beau’s false arresting of Sinclair as DE AG. McCain never bared fangs or claw when he easily could have, over Ayers over illegal campaign funding by the hundreds of millions that Obama was receiving…he was an installed patsy and now we have an installed illegal usurper.
I agree completely!
HaHa inconsiderable wretch, as this comment is pushed farther and farther down the page, in becomes increasingly difficult to figure out what it is that you completely agree with!
Inconsiderable Wretch’s comments were directed at PoliticalIdentityCrisis’ post:
This just reinforces my decision when the LA Times called be to subscribe again.
I explained that” I could not justify the cutting down of trees for Obama’s newsletter.”
The msm stopped doing their job years ago. They don’t even have enough honor to feel shame.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE
Ani — once again I applaud your post. I also want to thank you for listening to that drivel so we don’t have to. The sound of his voice sets my teeth on edge. What he calls jokes are very thinly veiled insults. I pity anyone in that audience who had to laugh or suffer banishment from the WH.
BO makes Marie Antoinette look like Mother Theresa.
Good one, Helenk!
And EXCELLENT post, Ani. I swear, reading Obama’s “jokes,” all at OUR expense, really, is not the least bit funny. What it does do, though, is give us a crystal clear lens through which to see how HE really sees us, and his job. (I know, I know - most of us didn’t need it, but still…)
A shame abt that Fourth Estate, though, right? Maybe if we had a real one of those, we wouldn’t have had a bloodless coup in 2000, and we would have ALL known abt the rampant voter fraud in 2008 (you know - the same thing people are protesting in Iran). Sadly, we do not…
Well done, Ani!
BO stated in an intrview with CBS that his daughters must ‘make their beds, walk the dog and they don’t watch TV during the week.’ Gosh, no TV? They must never see their father.
Yes, and then on the weekends their father plays. It was reported that he went golfing for several hours on Father’s Day. I might think a busy guy like the President of the United States might take what little free time he has to spend with his beautiful girls since he had to rush to the top job because he couldn’t take time to prove himself when the girls were this young. The people would have seen through him by the time his daughters were teens or adults.
It’s amazing how you folks can turn every single comment Obama makes into something negative.
sounded like a funny joke, to me.
It’s amazing how you give His Fraudulency’s bankrupting looting criminality and treason a pass too.
WWLD - was from west wing wasn’t it. CJ gave it to Josh in the last episode if he got stuck just WWLD - What would Leo Do.
I nominate Obama for the Letterman Award for useless blather.
Narcissists do frequently give subtle “tells” about what they really want to do.
I did not watch the video from above, but I did see a clip on tv of the Brian Williams joke. I thought that would have been funny if it were so sadly true. what I found strking when I saw the clip was that he must not have read these jokes beforehand because his delivery stunk and he laughs at his own jokes. Not cool, Mr. Kool aid, not cool.
Loser
I guess his usual TOTUS was out sick. The jokes were pretty lame and in bad taste.
He’s a very mean spirited person.
aka evil fraud usurper
at least Apuzzo’s case is going to require Obama’s response soon, he cannot keep putting off that judste
your run of the mill mean spirited person would not have the audacity and evilness required to pull off the grandest fraud ever perpetrated on humanity
The charlatan president is just a barrel of laughs, isn’t he?
Since Larry Sinclair’s book just came out, maybe he thinks he’s defusing “rumors” that would stem from that. Except for the part where Larry gave him $200 and Obama brought back drugs, aka dealing, aka a crime. Another one. He commits crimes, breaks his own laws, and violates the Constitution on a daily basis.
I might just have to buy that book. Larry should profit from fake POTUS, whether his tales are true or not, but since I know a professor who constantly is proud to tell people that she smoked dope while at occidental with Obama and she can prove she knows him (because TIME magazine printed her now famous photos), I tend to believe Larry. I think his book being number one on the New York Times bestseller list would at least get folks talking, you know? I’ll help get some folks buying his book.
hahahhahaha! so because Obama smoked dope in college, that makes you tend to believe Sinclair’s tales of gay sexcapades? hahahahaha!
I mean, even the Obama-haters here got to admit that Sinclair is credibility-free — we’re talking about a career criminal, whose long rap sheet specializes in crimes of deceit. And he failed a polygraph on this very topic! And you want to buy his book to help this criminal make money off another money-motivated lie! I love the wishful thinking — do you guys really hate Obama so much as to relinquish any credibility?
He did not fail the credentialed polygraph and in fact passed several with the highest scores, but the setup by Axelrod was a sandbagging and done by a fake. You might want to try to actually know what you’re writing about.
And how convenient you’re omitting the critical facts about the Donald Young murder, which was announced by Wright in a service before the coroner had pronounced him dead.
You wish to write off facts with ridicule; how Alinsky of you.
He did, in fact, fail the polygraph; the fact that Sinclair then shouted “conspiracy!” doesn’t change anything.
And, of course, you did not at all address the fact that Sinclair is a career criminal, whose crimes are all crimes of deceit and fraud.
“You wish to write off facts with ridicule” — that’s EXACTLY what you did! Sinclair is a professional liar and con artist! And you’re willing to ignore that because you hate Obama SO MUCH you’re willing to embrace lunacy to attack him.
and HAHAHAHA the Donald Young murder?!!?! “Critical facts”?!?! Are you SERIOUS?
Christ, the embrace of INSANE conspiracy theories on this site is amazing. (and kudos for the Alinsky reference, how Rush Limbaugh of you).
dang slim, having your shoe for breakfast every morning when you stick your foot in there must be hard on the teeth!
slim, Except that punch-drunk Obama is still taking to his bong in the WH. He calls it gallows humor, but we call it being high.
What’s your point? Obama admitted to smoking marijuana when he was younger, just as just about every other Democratic Presidential candidate. So. What. ???!!!
A little blow too. You know when he could find it.
hey everyone, LOOK AT SUZIE Q AND YOU WILL SEE AN EXAMPLE OF STUPIDITY, ARROGANCE, SHALLOW THINKING AND TOTAL LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY. NOW WHO DOES THAT REMIND US OF? OF COURSE, HER OR HIS GLORIOUS LEADER!
Using caps doesn’t make what you’re saying any more interesting.
actually it does!
Sorry, can’t look at the man.
Soooo, while innocent citizens in Iran bravely stand up to tyranny for freedom and human rights, Obama has time to tell jokes and play golf…hmmm. Just wondering aloud if this man can do anything that isn’t already scripted for him. While an opportunity to demonstrate bold leadership passes him by in Iran, Obama remains silent until someone fires up the old trusty teleprompter and tells him what to say and do…
The last time they rioted in the streets was to appoint he Ayatolla Khomeini as their Supreme Leader. Ahmadinejad and Mousavi were both part of that revoloution. Mousavi was their Prime Minister from 81-89. Those were golden years for US-Iranian relations, not.
I don’t it make a rat’s @$$ of a difference to us which one of them take the reins of power.
I feel like Steve Buschemi in Armageddon, “Are we staying, are we going, I mean I had a pretty good seat picked out!”
God help us all from this Self bloviating POS.
The flies even see it, why not the rest of the country??
i wonder if chris matthews and brian williams will get into a hair pullin fight since obamba is now making jokes about being in bed with brian. and brian is feelin tingles up his leg too. what a bunch of bitches. they make me sick and i would just like to bitch slap all of them!!!
oh- thanks ani! wonderful post! love love love your posts!
Geezuz what a gasbag he is.
right… who knows where to even begin with this stuff? obama derangement syndrome indeed.
Blowbama–a sophomoric, arrogant, egotistical arse.
Thinks he’s so funny and clever-telling his sarcastically lame jokes. He’s as pathetic as that old fool Letterman. The biggest joke of all?? BO being POTUS. We can thank the MSM and the DNC for Mr. Big Stuff. Hope they’re happy.
Do you think I should send the following joke to Letterman?
What’s black and white, has curly hair, big ears, lives in the White House and never stops yapping?
Answer: Bo Bama, of course–the First Dog!
My apologies if I have offended anyone–especially dog lovers!
and You all are thinking that You know all.
Be gone troll. You forgot the 0 in front of blablabla
Notice how they all come out to defend their love interest? How DARE anyone criticize their false God.
Since BO reneged on just about every campaign promise, the Bots have no arguments left to defend him. All that’s left is defending their undying love for him. Indeed, they are love-sick fools.
catty.
By the way, I just read through the comments above.
Good Lord. Serious, Good Lord.
By “Lord,” are you referring to Obama? I know you get the two mixed up all the time.
“I’m not the salesman-in-chief.”
He himself has said, “Tell me what you want me to sell, and I’ll sell it.” We’re not buyin’.
Don’t you get it? It’s YOU that has the fixation on Obama. You are making everything about him. You are dreaming up fantasies about him. The Obama in your mind has little relation to the one that lives in reality. GET. A. GRIP.
suzie, i bet even your mom’s embarrassed with your lack of snap or common sense. she probably changes the subject quickly when you get in from junior high everyday and try to “educate” everyone.
Heh, agreed 100%. That’s why I enjoy reading the comments so much.
slim, get your foot out of your mouth. people are laughing at you(as usual).
I know, it’s shocking isn’t it? These comments are seriously deranged. These are folks with no concept of reality. No ability to think logically. Just absolutely bat shit insane folks who are so filled with hatred for Obama that they cannot even come close to thinking straight. Did I mention that their hatred is completely irrational?
suzie, you wouldn’t know reality if it kicked your arse every morning. you live in giggle, giggle ibot reality which is is say the exact opposite of daily living, smarts and common sense.
I think you just made Suzie’s point…
yeah right! the only point suzy has is at the top of her head! thanks for playing!
Are you adding anything here other than childish insults? It’s just pathetic.
I don’t think you or Suzie are adding anything. All I keep seeing from you two are insults. No debate on the posts, just insults. Makes me wonder, if you think everyone here is so deranged, what that says about you.
It says I like to witness train wrecks, I think. I do find crazy people fascinating.
if you aren’t going to engage in civil debate, and don’t stop insulting the writers, and commenters, you will be blocked.
I find it very interesting that you visit here - especially because you just insult people, and talk to yourself, using two different aliases.
Suzie and Anonymous are the same person.
A-nony-mous may also be just another incarnation of the other obamabots who once frequented the site such as Debbie, believe, Francis, Kelvin, and a host of others. They are
carbon copiesclones of each other or else they have families with non-branching ancestral trees.You find them fascinating because you are one of them. You come here day after day, posting the same drivel with an expectation that your banality will be respected as an opinion having some gravitas. That you even think this way qualifies you for a long-sleeved white jacket and a room without a view.
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090621/capt.8acff98cac01425b9c758aa0e7e9fac8.obama_dcsa103.jpg?x=293&y=345&q=85&sig=Iyq_4h0QXnkvIRJtu4HaTA–
Obama’s reference to his bedfellow Brian Williams, gives a whole new meaning to date night.
i wonder if mo approved that remark..
Indeed, foxy!
Where reasonable people see jokes, noquarter sees “slams.”
And when reasonable people legitimately criticize Obama, Slim Tyranny sees “blasphemy”.
Reasonable people? No. Not seeing that here. Reasonable criticism of the President should always be encouraged. We are a Democracy and we should never treat our President like a King. But there’s a difference between reasonable criticism and the kind of nonsense we see here.
A reasonable criticism might be: Why isn’t Obama pushing for single payer health care? A reasonable response may be: He doesn’t think it’s political tenable. A reasonable response to that may be: Perhaps not, but at least then it would allow the “public option” to be seen as a compromise rather than something to be compromised from.
Do you see how a reasonable argument may work? A reasonable argument is not “Obama is a usurper who was born in Indonesia and who had gay sex parties with some dude” … this is the kind of thing you see in those rags on the side checkout aisle at the grocery store. These are not reasoned arguments based on fact.
I applaud wanting to criticize the President when he does something wrong, but when you do it in this sort of irrational way you lose all credibility and can no longer be taken seriously by thinking individuals.
“A reasonable argument is not “Obama is a usurper who was born in Indonesia and who had gay sex parties with some dude” … this is the kind of thing you see in those rags on the side checkout aisle at the grocery store. These are not reasoned arguments based on fact.”
Also in the rags you see at the check out line was that Edwards was having an affair and fathered a child. And that Clinton had a fling with an Intern. And that Larry Craig was arrested for soliciting gay sex in an airport bathroom. And George Michael was arrested for gay sex and drugs in a park in England.
One persons *unreasonable argument* is another persons truth.
One persons *unreasonable argument* is another persons truth.
Yes, as Carl Sagan reminded us, they laughed at Galileo and they laughed at Newton. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
In the world outside this blog, AG, there is absolutely no doubt which of the above persons corresponds most closely to you, and that goes for the rest of you as well.
Larry, this is a fascinating experiment, I guess, like the Stanford Prison thing, but running a breeding ground for psychopaths isn’t what I think you’d want to be remembered for.
Grab the reins, please.
wasn’t it Bozo’s intent to make them laugh?
Good point AG, unlike Galileo and Newton, who were not stand-up comics, it was Bozo’s intent to make the audience laugh. Now who was Thee One acting like in his stand-up routine? Certainly not like Galileo or Newton. Should a President act like Bozo the Clown in these dire times? So, to paraphrase Chris’s comment,
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He has the big ears for the job–all he needs is the red nose and the floppy shoes . . .
American Girl in Italy writes: wasn’t it Bozo’s intent to make them laugh?
Yes, that’s correct, it was Bozo the Clown’s intent to make them laugh.
I’m assuming that you’re unfamliar with the writings of Carl Sagan, so I’ll run through it again for you.
Carl Sagan humorously described one of the many non-arguments presented by advocates of far-fetched theories, as this: the claim that derision was something all advocates of far-fetched theories have unfairly endured as well, as some sort of a badge of legitimacy of the theory being presented.
Again: They laughed at Galileo, They laughed at Newton. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
Now do you get it? Derision is not in and of itself an imprimatur of legitimacy and let’s go back to Sagan for the closer:
“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs.”
Your claims are extraordinary to say the least. Most regard them as, uh, how shall I say it, shithouse rat crazy.
The onus is on you to prove, defend, and support these arguments–
Or didn’t you know that?
Thanks for explaining all of that so clearly, Mr. Vosburgh. Is this “Carl Sagan” fellow a famous philosopher or something? He sounds like he’s plenty smart.
Nah, just some guy.
*sigh*
You are confusing the National Enquirer (which does occasionally break stories) with the mags that have stories about goats giving birth to aliens (these are the types that have the Obama is gay stories in them.)
A-Nony-Mouse, in between the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News there are, as you know, many tabloids of various quality. Since the MSM can in general no longer be trusted, we need to keep a closer eye on these non-mainstream sources. Sometimes they’re right, and sometimes they’re wrong. Nothing is to be trusted as gospel, especially mainstream sources like The New York Times or Newsweek.
Yes, you must construe according to your wits.
Oh, dear.
I’ll agree that no source should be treated as the gospel but I’m quite certain that the stories printed in the NY Times and Newsweek are of a higher quality and contain more facts than those printed in checkout stand tabloids. If you disagree with that premise then perhaps it’s time you reevaluate your perspective.
What kinda bothers me is that the thread gets hijacked talking about something other than what this post is about — namely that our President sees fit to use a gallows humor, snarking about matters that are of grave importance to the American people — namely these auto bailouts, the economy, and the sycophantic press — glad he is so happy to report that the fourth estate is dead. It has certainly been to his benefit. Would you not agree?
And as to your particular comment, certainly while NYTimes and Newsweek would be conidered more reliable than the Enquirer, they were two of the biggest culprits lasy year in marketing this candidate to an unsuspecting public, much as the Times sold Bush’s war years ago.
ani, it is called deflection. change the tone and purpose of this discussion. they keeping thinking they are winning. let’s make it clear for nony, ding! you lose! thanks for playing
Yes, hijacked by a handfull of bystanders who wondered out loud “what’s the point of believing something if there is no factual basis?”
Don’t feel alone. It happens every day here (I’m in Hollywood CA), We get ‘em cleaned up and try to sort through the problems.
So, where you at?
nony, you need to get off that backside of yours and go research the ny times a once esteemed paper who sold their soul to the highest bidder for example before the iraq war. you can’t have it both ways though in obit land that is being tried to great failure. thanks for playing! ding! you lose!
It was the National Enquirer that had the Larry Sinclair story. The NE, and the Globe.
And?
Incidentally, are you actually in Italy?
Tabloids.
“Sir, it’s not really what you might call a newspaper of record, so we have no archive.”
This is the response of the local public library in Hollywood, CA, to a request for back issues of the Enquirer.
He was very polite and I felt like a fool for asking him. Oh well, I’ve been there before, asking for far wilder things, so he already knows I’m a fool.
SuzieQ — why are you commenting about this when the article never mentions any of what you are talking about here — the article has a valid point that Obumble makes fun of dire situations at expensive dinners — fiddling while Rome burns.
What is the hell does that have to do with birth certificates and Indonesia? The author never mentioned that. Why don’t you respond to the topic?
She’s referencing some of the truly insane comments that can be found above.
As far as the topic itself: I don’t find it very interesting. So the President made some jokes at an event where the President makes jokes every year. It’s not that big of a deal. Even in the worst of times there can be humor to be found, it doesn’t make the issues any less serious.
You have got to be kidding me. Blowing 50 billion on an auto bailout that did not work and you find that funny?
But why should our President give a damn that people are losing their homes and their shirts or have no jobs and don’t have people reliable enough to report the truth of what is going on –
the President is not spending his own money, so its all monopoly money to him.
We are all very flattered that you would devote this much time commenting on a thread you “don’t find interesting.” When I find something not interesting, I find somewhere else to be.
While I don’t find the post itself interesting, I do find the lunacy of some of the comments being made interesting (in a sort of disturbing kind of way) and it’s those comments that I’ve been responding to. This isn’t really unusual, often time the discussion in blog comments ends up being about something other than what the initial post was about.
Then you are terminally obtuse. Reasonable criticism to your kind consists in no criticism at all. No matter what the opposition says, you find some spin or ad hominem abusive with which to counter. Your Anointed One is unqualified, unfit, and dangerous. Nothing unreasonable there. He has no history, no records to speak of, and no experience.
I would suggest that you stop projecting your inadequacies on those of us who actually are able to think beyond party and/or personal biases and see That One for what he truly is: yet another political hack in the mold of Dubya. In addition, you should also see yourself as the left-wing version of a Bushbot–an Obamatron. You sound just as silly and uneducated as they did.
Ferfle writes Then you are terminally obtuse. Reasonable criticism to your kind consists in no criticism at all. No matter what the opposition says, you find some spin or ad hominem abusive with which to counter. Your Anointed One is unqualified, unfit, and dangerous. Nothing unreasonable there. He has no history, no records to speak of, and no experience.
Would this by any chance be an example of what you regard as reasonable criticism?
Reasonable criticism to your kind consists in no criticism at all.
What kind is that, Ferd?
Where No Quarter uncovers demonstrable banality on the part of a pretender of a POTUS, Slim
TyrannyPickins finds a place to worship.Has there ever been a larger gathering of so many well-dressed and bejeweled turds? I think Mr. Obama should be able to treat his lackies any way he wants, after all, he is the light that guides their way.
I’ve heard that you can’t polish a turd. But to flies, polish is not really necessary.
True. Have you heard if a memorial service has been planned for the fly that Obama swatted?
No memorial service, but I hear Thee One is having a belt made with the following inscription: “One at one blow!”
The confrence is the height of hypocrisy. They promise to free america from poverty while they hold these 3000 dollar a person dinners. Imagine him giving that speech to a dinner for poor and homeless people. This is the problem with america.
In the past a president has resigned before Congress could force him out (Nixon). There is solace in knowing that history repeats itself.
It’s tough to read this stuff because it not only isn’t funny, it’s too pathetically close to the truth.
The MSM doesn’t share a pair of balls between them and have their noses buried so deep up his a** that they don’t know s*** when it’s shoved in their faces.
When are people going to wake up to the fact that making fun of other people’s misery isn’t funny? Obumble is nothing more than a sad comment of today’s humor which is sadly found in the toilet.
what i don’t understand is what the hell are “the messiah’s” sheep doin on this website? if they don’t like it; get the hell out! i never go to their God forsaken sites, so, what are they doin here? nobody has them here by force. buh-bye!
The Obamatrons have no life because they are incapable of even a cursory examination of what constitutes real living; they merely exist day-to-day, watching the TV, either in their Mommy’s basement or at the local Y, hoping that this will be the day that their Anointed One will: 1) smite those of us who are on to his scam, 2) Buy them a house or make their mortgage payments, and 3) buy them a car or make those payments, too. I pity the slavish fools who come here as this is all they have, other than the non-responsive boob tube, and the only place where they get any sort of attention at all, even though it is negative attention. Any at all is better than none.
Fascinating. Ther’s an entire wing of psychoanalysis fodder here.
Ferd, as long as I have your attention, would you mind answering the following questions?
Are you of a family wealthy enough to guarantee your subsistence through either current or subsequent care?
You work?
What do you do?
Another comment in the shredder. Uncle.
Found and rescued.
Thank you.
This appears to be a lost sheep that is fairly masochistic to say the least, and quite the low watt as well. Pitimouse
I love the comments on this site. All of yow saw him clearly and early. The rest of the USA is catching up. (See latest Rasmussen report polls. Very encouraging.) No Quarters commentators: ahead of the pack. Because you all saw the truth.
This speech is no surprise coming from Alynskyite Obama. This crude arrogant pusilanimous man..cloaked with propanganda by these very same people during th e campaign will continue to be seen by Obama as what they truly are :toadies..sychophants and jesters who all too easily as he well knows and here in his speech is making sure that they know deserve precisely what he gave them.