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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221710</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about that the madder I get. I was a Chicago bartender when I was 21. I guess that by attempting to comply with liquor laws by cutting the man off the bartender was asking for it because why would anyone work in a bar if they weren&#039;t asking to get beat up? If someone beat the crap out of that judge while the judge was serving in his official capacity he would be whining his ass off and sentencing the assailant on felony charges I am sure. Assaulting a CTA employee is a federal charge as well. What kind of stupid government employee is this judge to practically say that the bartender was asking for it just because she tried to cut the pathetic drunken loser off. I guess I should be glad that I&#039;m no longer a bar tender but honestly that judge is a friggin moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about that the madder I get. I was a Chicago bartender when I was 21. I guess that by attempting to comply with liquor laws by cutting the man off the bartender was asking for it because why would anyone work in a bar if they weren&#8217;t asking to get beat up? If someone beat the crap out of that judge while the judge was serving in his official capacity he would be whining his ass off and sentencing the assailant on felony charges I am sure. Assaulting a CTA employee is a federal charge as well. What kind of stupid government employee is this judge to practically say that the bartender was asking for it just because she tried to cut the pathetic drunken loser off. I guess I should be glad that I&#8217;m no longer a bar tender but honestly that judge is a friggin moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221709</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops i didn&#039;t see that was already posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops i didn&#8217;t see that was already posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221632</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-abbate-24-jun24,0,5965992.story

A drunk Chicago cop who punched and licked the crap out of a tiny female bartender got two years probation because according to the judge, it wouldn&#039;t really deter this kind of behavior to try to punish the behavior. I think the judge called it a &quot;drunken bar fight.&quot; Unbelievable. Like the bartender was egging it on or something.</description>
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<p>A drunk Chicago cop who punched and licked the crap out of a tiny female bartender got two years probation because according to the judge, it wouldn&#8217;t really deter this kind of behavior to try to punish the behavior. I think the judge called it a &#8220;drunken bar fight.&#8221; Unbelievable. Like the bartender was egging it on or something.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221598</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that story leslie, although I don&#039;t live in your state. The man was huge and wasn&#039;t he an off duty policeman? 

NOW has been MIA for years, but they recently reported on Dave Letterman also so we can hope they are waking up to the obscenities after ignoring them for years. Is there any group of men protesting this outrage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that story leslie, although I don&#8217;t live in your state. The man was huge and wasn&#8217;t he an off duty policeman? </p>
<p>NOW has been MIA for years, but they recently reported on Dave Letterman also so we can hope they are waking up to the obscenities after ignoring them for years. Is there any group of men protesting this outrage?</p>
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		<title>By: leslie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221570</link>
		<dc:creator>leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Chicago, we have the story of a large off-duty cop who beat up a petite female bartender in a neighborhood bar in FEb of 2007. The beating was caught on video (the story and video below).

The decision in the trial was just this week. He was found guilty and sentenced to probation and no time in jail. &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;for beating up a petite woman&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; who had the temerity to deny him any more drinks. The photo I saw this morning showed
him walking out of the courthouse holding hands with his wife - who resembled the victim (in my eyes). 

Because he had &quot;no other complaints against him&quot; and 
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;she did not sustain serious injuries&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, he will walk. I guess in Illinois, you actually have to kill a woman - on tape - for it to be seen as a serious crime.

I am boiling mad. (and so is the Illinois chapter of NOW who is planning to fight against this judges reelection to his judgeship in the coming elections.)
I&#039;m still not impressed with NOW. But at least someone is doing something.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-abbate-24-jun24,0,5965992.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Chicago, we have the story of a large off-duty cop who beat up a petite female bartender in a neighborhood bar in FEb of 2007. The beating was caught on video (the story and video below).</p>
<p>The decision in the trial was just this week. He was found guilty and sentenced to probation and no time in jail. <em><strong>for beating up a petite woman</strong></em> who had the temerity to deny him any more drinks. The photo I saw this morning showed<br />
him walking out of the courthouse holding hands with his wife &#8211; who resembled the victim (in my eyes). </p>
<p>Because he had &#8220;no other complaints against him&#8221; and<br />
<strong><em>she did not sustain serious injuries</em></strong>, he will walk. I guess in Illinois, you actually have to kill a woman &#8211; on tape &#8211; for it to be seen as a serious crime.</p>
<p>I am boiling mad. (and so is the Illinois chapter of NOW who is planning to fight against this judges reelection to his judgeship in the coming elections.)<br />
I&#8217;m still not impressed with NOW. But at least someone is doing something.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-abbate-24-jun24,0,5965992.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-abbate-24-jun24,0,5965992.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221567</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little disappointed in you tek. Do you honestly believe the women&#039;s movement was about having sex as indiscriminately as men? If I list all of the reasons women fought for their rights, you still wouldn&#039;t understand because you&#039;ve reduced the entire debate to the hormonal level. 

We are human beings, not just receptacles of seminal fluid. We think deep thoughts and wonder about the meaning of life, how things work. We appreciate great art, music and literature. Without opportunity for education, we are denied the growth assessable to the other half of the population.

Without the right to have control over our own bodies, we become domestic servants, reduced to cleaning toilets, having babies, making sure dinner is on the table when the master comes home. See the shock on the faces of male guests at a gathering when a woman expresses an opinion or wants to join a conservation on the economy or life on Mars. 

We were dependents, supplicants, prisoners denied the right of equal pay or good jobs. We were/are left with an unequal partnership choosing to marry because it was expected, cheated out of a true friendship marriage should be.

Is it any surprise then, young women have allowed themselves to acquiesce and play the role assigned to them? Frankly and speaking for myself alone, I&#039;m pretty tired of hearing about the irresistible sexual urges of some of the male population. If they think only with their penis, they shouldn&#039;t be in charge of anything.

BTW the McNaughton rule for criminal insanity:

``...it must be clearly proved that, at the time of committing the act, the party accused was labouring under such a defect of reason, from disease of the mind, as not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing, or, if he did know it, that he did not know he was doing what was wrong.

This sounds very much like the argument you are using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little disappointed in you tek. Do you honestly believe the women&#8217;s movement was about having sex as indiscriminately as men? If I list all of the reasons women fought for their rights, you still wouldn&#8217;t understand because you&#8217;ve reduced the entire debate to the hormonal level. </p>
<p>We are human beings, not just receptacles of seminal fluid. We think deep thoughts and wonder about the meaning of life, how things work. We appreciate great art, music and literature. Without opportunity for education, we are denied the growth assessable to the other half of the population.</p>
<p>Without the right to have control over our own bodies, we become domestic servants, reduced to cleaning toilets, having babies, making sure dinner is on the table when the master comes home. See the shock on the faces of male guests at a gathering when a woman expresses an opinion or wants to join a conservation on the economy or life on Mars. </p>
<p>We were dependents, supplicants, prisoners denied the right of equal pay or good jobs. We were/are left with an unequal partnership choosing to marry because it was expected, cheated out of a true friendship marriage should be.</p>
<p>Is it any surprise then, young women have allowed themselves to acquiesce and play the role assigned to them? Frankly and speaking for myself alone, I&#8217;m pretty tired of hearing about the irresistible sexual urges of some of the male population. If they think only with their penis, they shouldn&#8217;t be in charge of anything.</p>
<p>BTW the McNaughton rule for criminal insanity:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;it must be clearly proved that, at the time of committing the act, the party accused was labouring under such a defect of reason, from disease of the mind, as not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing, or, if he did know it, that he did not know he was doing what was wrong.</p>
<p>This sounds very much like the argument you are using.</p>
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		<title>By: justme_kc</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme_kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, it in no way justifies hitting another person.

i&#039;m just saying this case is not the same as the years of domestic abuse some people endure because they can&#039;t get out and to compare it to that is a disservice to women/men who truly are victims of a horrible situation and clouds the outrage people should feel over those situations.  she could get out and chose to go back to him over and over.  she even asked the judge to not be so harsh on the restraining order.  she&#039;ll be back with him before his probation is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, it in no way justifies hitting another person.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m just saying this case is not the same as the years of domestic abuse some people endure because they can&#8217;t get out and to compare it to that is a disservice to women/men who truly are victims of a horrible situation and clouds the outrage people should feel over those situations.  she could get out and chose to go back to him over and over.  she even asked the judge to not be so harsh on the restraining order.  she&#8217;ll be back with him before his probation is over.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that justifies getting the crap beat out of her?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Just tell the nurse, you slipped and fell 
It starts to sting as it starts to swell 
She looks at you, she wants the truth 
It&#039;s right out there in the waiting room 
With those hands 
Lookin just as sweet as he can 
Never Again 

Seen it before, but not like this 
Been there before, but not like this 
Never before have I have 
Seen him this bad 
She&#039;s just a woman 
Never Again 

Father&#039;s a name you haven&#039;t earned yet 
You&#039;re just a child with a temper 
Haven&#039;t you heard &quot;Don&#039;t hit a lady&quot;? 
Kickin&#039; your ass would be a pleasure &lt;/blockquote&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that justifies getting the crap beat out of her?</p>
<blockquote><p>Just tell the nurse, you slipped and fell<br />
It starts to sting as it starts to swell<br />
She looks at you, she wants the truth<br />
It&#8217;s right out there in the waiting room<br />
With those hands<br />
Lookin just as sweet as he can<br />
Never Again </p>
<p>Seen it before, but not like this<br />
Been there before, but not like this<br />
Never before have I have<br />
Seen him this bad<br />
She&#8217;s just a woman<br />
Never Again </p>
<p>Father&#8217;s a name you haven&#8217;t earned yet<br />
You&#8217;re just a child with a temper<br />
Haven&#8217;t you heard &#8220;Don&#8217;t hit a lady&#8221;?<br />
Kickin&#8217; your ass would be a pleasure </p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have thought ever since the Sexual Revolution in the &#039;60s that the real problem we have in our culture is constantly seeking means of relieving men from their innate responsibilities toward women instead of educating men to be responsible.

Unfortunately, too many mothers excuse the inexcusable behavior of their sons toward women and our whole culture now accepts first-date or acquaintance sex, the only hurdle being how to prevent pregnancy so the man won&#039;t be inconvenienced.  That&#039;s the post-feminist world.

I&#039;m afraid that &#039;70s feminists were mainly concerned with fighting to try and prove they WERE men instead of fighting for the kind of society that is beneficial and protective to women.  I was sorry to see so many women take the stance that equal rights meant they could go out and be promiscuous and irresponsible just like so many men.

And as for the provocative dress, it&#039;s too bad younger women can&#039;t realize that men are carnal animals for the most part and if you flaunt what you&#039;ve got in front of the world, there are lots of men out there who can&#039;t control their primordial sexual urges.  This, in my opinion, is where girls need education about men.  They don&#039;t look at thinking, &quot;What a cute girl, I&#039;d like to marry her.&quot;  No, they look at you think SEX!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have thought ever since the Sexual Revolution in the &#8217;60s that the real problem we have in our culture is constantly seeking means of relieving men from their innate responsibilities toward women instead of educating men to be responsible.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, too many mothers excuse the inexcusable behavior of their sons toward women and our whole culture now accepts first-date or acquaintance sex, the only hurdle being how to prevent pregnancy so the man won&#8217;t be inconvenienced.  That&#8217;s the post-feminist world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that &#8217;70s feminists were mainly concerned with fighting to try and prove they WERE men instead of fighting for the kind of society that is beneficial and protective to women.  I was sorry to see so many women take the stance that equal rights meant they could go out and be promiscuous and irresponsible just like so many men.</p>
<p>And as for the provocative dress, it&#8217;s too bad younger women can&#8217;t realize that men are carnal animals for the most part and if you flaunt what you&#8217;ve got in front of the world, there are lots of men out there who can&#8217;t control their primordial sexual urges.  This, in my opinion, is where girls need education about men.  They don&#8217;t look at thinking, &#8220;What a cute girl, I&#8217;d like to marry her.&#8221;  No, they look at you think SEX!</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and men who beat women and children will always blame the victim, it&#039;s part of the syndrome.  I think anyone who falls for that is predisposed to dislike women and blame them.  There is NO excuse for a man to beat a woman or a child.  Those people are defenseless in the face of such superior physical strength.

Perps always use the she started it line to make the woman feel responsible so he can keep her and discourage her from testifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and men who beat women and children will always blame the victim, it&#8217;s part of the syndrome.  I think anyone who falls for that is predisposed to dislike women and blame them.  There is NO excuse for a man to beat a woman or a child.  Those people are defenseless in the face of such superior physical strength.</p>
<p>Perps always use the she started it line to make the woman feel responsible so he can keep her and discourage her from testifying.</p>
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		<title>By: justme_kc</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme_kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say he didn&#039;t do anything and then admitted he was guilty.  I&#039;m saying there&#039;s a whole story that we don&#039;t know and that what set him off was not simply her reading his text messages.

And I can be just as positive that Dave didnt know it was the 14 yr as you can be that Brown WILL do this again.  It&#039;s not always a case of once an abuser always and abuser.  I think they got into a 2-way fight that she was on the losing end of... if she thought he was cheating then leave, don&#039;t snoop and badger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say he didn&#8217;t do anything and then admitted he was guilty.  I&#8217;m saying there&#8217;s a whole story that we don&#8217;t know and that what set him off was not simply her reading his text messages.</p>
<p>And I can be just as positive that Dave didnt know it was the 14 yr as you can be that Brown WILL do this again.  It&#8217;s not always a case of once an abuser always and abuser.  I think they got into a 2-way fight that she was on the losing end of&#8230; if she thought he was cheating then leave, don&#8217;t snoop and badger.</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think rap music promotes the culture of violence and disrespect toward women.  I&#039;m not sure why any young men glory in that culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think rap music promotes the culture of violence and disrespect toward women.  I&#8217;m not sure why any young men glory in that culture.</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teak:  Agree with your comments.  Somehow, the abuse cycle is beyond low self-esteem or anything we can comprehend.  I believe women get terrorized and truly think the perp will kill them if they testify.  Then, I think there&#039;s a lot of shame.  Most people don&#039;t like to think that such awful things really happen and if a woman or child has been a victim of such a man they are ostracized once the truth comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teak:  Agree with your comments.  Somehow, the abuse cycle is beyond low self-esteem or anything we can comprehend.  I believe women get terrorized and truly think the perp will kill them if they testify.  Then, I think there&#8217;s a lot of shame.  Most people don&#8217;t like to think that such awful things really happen and if a woman or child has been a victim of such a man they are ostracized once the truth comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really that simple, Craig? Abuse of teenage girls by their boyfriends has increased dramatically in the past decade. May I suggest, although stronger laws might help in existing situations, the real solution will require much more complex action. 

Education in homes and schools is a start. It isn&#039;t enough to tell girls and women they can leave a relationship unless boys and men are taught respect. Male abusers should be ostracized by other men. At the risk of being labeled a trouble maker, I will say the problem is men, not women.

There&#039;s a long list of male celebrities in music, sports and every other entertainment industry who have walked away unscathed after beating/killing or raping women. If OJ, Robert Blake, Kobe Bryant, Bobby Brown, Chris Brown, football players @ CU and so many other so called role models can get by with this, why wouldn&#039;t a high school boy think it&#039;s ok?

Why don&#039;t other men who claim to be outraged by the violence, refuse to boycott abusers and instead turn the victim into the guilty party? If you can answer that question, perhaps you will understand why women don&#039;t leave.

Most people loath the abuse of animals. Michael Vick went to prison and his career is over because he abused dogs. Forgive me if I don&#039;t understand. I believe more women are killed every year by their significant others than animals murdered by their human companions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really that simple, Craig? Abuse of teenage girls by their boyfriends has increased dramatically in the past decade. May I suggest, although stronger laws might help in existing situations, the real solution will require much more complex action. </p>
<p>Education in homes and schools is a start. It isn&#8217;t enough to tell girls and women they can leave a relationship unless boys and men are taught respect. Male abusers should be ostracized by other men. At the risk of being labeled a trouble maker, I will say the problem is men, not women.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a long list of male celebrities in music, sports and every other entertainment industry who have walked away unscathed after beating/killing or raping women. If OJ, Robert Blake, Kobe Bryant, Bobby Brown, Chris Brown, football players @ CU and so many other so called role models can get by with this, why wouldn&#8217;t a high school boy think it&#8217;s ok?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t other men who claim to be outraged by the violence, refuse to boycott abusers and instead turn the victim into the guilty party? If you can answer that question, perhaps you will understand why women don&#8217;t leave.</p>
<p>Most people loath the abuse of animals. Michael Vick went to prison and his career is over because he abused dogs. Forgive me if I don&#8217;t understand. I believe more women are killed every year by their significant others than animals murdered by their human companions.</p>
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		<title>By: justme_kc</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/23/well-that-ought-to-learn-him/#comment-1221337</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly.  she had the ability to get out of that situation.  i understand that everyone&#039;s situation is different but this should not be compared to women who have stayed in abusive relationships for 30 years because they had no way to get out or had been completely beaten down mentally before the physical abuse began and thought they deserved that kind of crap.  this was a 20 year old kid, so they couldn&#039;t have been together THAT long.  he has admitted he was wrong and will accept his punishment without dragging her through a public trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly.  she had the ability to get out of that situation.  i understand that everyone&#8217;s situation is different but this should not be compared to women who have stayed in abusive relationships for 30 years because they had no way to get out or had been completely beaten down mentally before the physical abuse began and thought they deserved that kind of crap.  this was a 20 year old kid, so they couldn&#8217;t have been together THAT long.  he has admitted he was wrong and will accept his punishment without dragging her through a public trial.</p>
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