“As The Stomach Turns”
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on June 25, 2009 at 1:01 PM in Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton, Republican Party, South Carolina
Well, as you have probably seen by now, Governor Sanford has admitted before everyone that he was unfaithful to his wife. In fact, that is the big, huge headline across the front of The Post and Courier: “I’ve Been Unfaithful.” Oh, yeah.
And it has gotten worse with The State printing a whole bunch of emails sent between Sanford and his paramour. Emails that they have had in their possession for FIVE MONTHS. That’s kind of curious, isn’t it? They claim they were trying to “authenticate” them. Amazingly, they seemed to have done that in just a few days. Huh – that’s not the least bit coincidental, is it? Ahem.
Here is a good overview of the whole situation, including some of those emails:
Wow. It is astonishing how people can just implode, destroying their families, their careers, and their integrity, all in one fell swoop. Shocking.
And one of those people most affected is his wife, Jenny Sanford. The video above briefly alluded to her statement about the situation in the video above. I think given what she has gone through over the past 5 months, she deserves the space to have her version told in her own voice, “I Believe Mark Has Earned A Chance To Resurrect Our Marriage,” and here it is: South Carolina first lady Jenny Sanford issued the following statement Wednesday:
I would like to start by saying I love my husband and I believe I have put forth every effort possible to be the best wife I can be during our almost twenty years of marriage. As well, for the last fifteen years my husband has been fully engaged in public service to the citizens and taxpayers of this state and I have faithfully supported him in those efforts to the best of my ability. I have been and remain proud of his accomplishments and his service to this state.I personally believe that the greatest legacy I will leave behind in this world is not the job I held on Wall Street, or the campaigns I managed for Mark, or the work I have done as First Lady or even the philanthropic activities in which I have been routinely engaged. Instead, the greatest legacy I will leave in this world is the character of the children I, or we, leave behind. It is for that reason that I deeply regret the recent actions of my husband Mark, and their potential damage to our children.
I believe wholeheartedly in the sanctity, dignity and importance of the institution of marriage. I believe that has been consistently reflected in my actions. When I found out about my husbands infidelity I worked immediately to first seek reconciliation through forgiveness, and then to work diligently to repair our marriage. We reached a point where I felt it was important to look my sons in the eyes and maintain my dignity, self-respect, and my basic sense of right and wrong. I therefore asked my husband to leave two weeks ago.
This trial separation was agreed to with the goal of ultimately strengthening our marriage. During this short separation it was agreed that Mark would not contact us. I kept this separation quiet out of respect of his public office and reputation, and in hopes of keeping our children from just this type of public exposure. Because of this separation, I did not know where he was in the past week.
I believe enduring love is primarily a commitment and an act of will, and for a marriage to be successful, that commitment must be reciprocal. I believe Mark has earned a chance to resurrect our marriage.
Psalm 127 states that sons are a gift from the Lord and children a reward from Him. I will continue to pour my energy into raising our sons to be honorable young men. I remain willing to forgive Mark completely for his indiscretions and to welcome him back, in time, if he continues to work toward reconciliation with a true spirit of humility and repentance.
This is a very painful time for us and I would humbly request now that members of the media respect the privacy of my boys and me as we struggle together to continue on with our lives and as I seek the wisdom of Solomon, the strength and patience of Job and the grace of God in helping to heal my family.
The pain the First Lady is in just pours off the page. How sad, for her, and for her family, especially to have their personal issues played out across the screen and page all across the nation. Unfortunately, Jenny Sanford has joined an exclusive club, one which includes members Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Edwards. Her personal pain has been writ large. She, like the others, is handling it with grace. She, like the others, was successful in her own right, and helped her husand to be successful, as well And like the others, it seems she is willing to give her husband another chance, which is her CHOICE. As much as it might upset some of us that people stay with partners who cheat, the reality is that the women mentioned above are FAR from alone.
Bottom line, this is a sad situation insofar as this one man’s selfish actions have had a rippling affect far greater than the man himself, who is only a man after all (meaning he is just a human being), for himself, his family, his position, and his party. People are people, and sometimes, okay, a lot of times, that means they do stupid, short-sighted things, and think with a different part of their anatomy than their brains. Most, though, don’t have it played out on a national stage, nor do their wronged partners. THAT is the hard part, especially for those most closely affected: Jenny Sanford and her sons.
Bless your heart, First Lady Sanford, you didn’t deserve this public humiliation you are having to endure, nor do your children. Whatever your choice ends up being about your marriage, you have every right to make it, even if it is to “stand by your man.” Every relationship is different, and no one knows what the day-to-day nitty gritty aspects of that relationship are. So, no matter HOW it looks to us on the inside, WE are not the ones living it – you are. I hope you can discern what is truly best for you and your family without the clamoring voices influencing you too much. It is YOUR life, and your children’s lives. Do what’s best for y’all, and don’t let all of the nosey Nellies influence you. All the best to you as you and your family work this out, whatever the end results of that work may be…
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nice post. and some on the left are comparing it to the clinton-lewinsky scandal….the two are not the same…..gov sanford wasnt under oath in front of a federal judge committing perjury, and sanford didnt wag a finger at america and lie about it and claim innocence..and sanford didnt try to attack his mistress like clinton and carville and begala did….I am not proud of what sanford did…..but at least he was a man about it
Oh please. Sanford got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He’s not “being a man” about anything. Hell he rambled for 8 minutes at his press conference before he finally admitted to what he had done. He’s just another “family values” candidate with a conservative mind and a liberal penis.
None-ya:
You plagarized Jon Stewart by the way.
Give credit where credit is due.
I thought it was “HufPo” as a co worker who reads that site said verbatum what the mouse said this morning.
Stop the plagarizing I thought?
Sounds better coming from you.
At least Bill Clinton didn’t disappear from the White House and his official duties for several days, leaving no one able to contact him. He got his “exotic” right at his desk, even while making and placing phone calls to public officials, no slacker he…
Exactly. Sanford left his government essentially in legal limbo. I just love it when the neoconbots get beaten over the head with the same billy club they used on WJC.
Ferd: Exactly. The greater wrong is that Sanford did a runner and left his state high and dry. That in and of itself demonstrates that the man is not in his right mind and is unfit to serve in higher office. There was no need for him to go to Argentina and sort out his issues with the other woman face to face – that is, unless he had ulterior motives. And I for one do not believe for one second that hanky panky didn’t ensue.
But again, the point is, as you point out, that the man acted like an irresponsible teenager instead of a grown man. The people of South Carolina have a right to feel embarrassed and betrayed by his irresponsibility.
An additional point is that one does not leave one’s post because of personal problems unless they admit to them and resign. WJC never quit, in spite of the enormous odds. It appears that Sanford tried to take the easy way out, thinking he would get away with it. I’ll take a WJC any day. At least he fought the battle.
Ferd: Following up on your point…
I was working for a network when Clinton was being impeached. We had Bill Weld on as a guest. The host was grilling him on why he didn’t think Clinton should be impeached. Weld responded that Clinton’s misdeeds did not rise to the level of impeachment. When the host asked him what WOULD constitute such behavior, Weld said that if Clinton had up and moved to another country (he cited France as an example) then Congress would have had every right to vote for impeachment.
Interesting and ironic given the Sanford situation.
Believe me, people here are pretty upset, on both sides of the aisle. And yes, judging from what folks were saying at the Toyota dealership the other day when I took my car in for service, people are NOT amused by this shenanigan of Sanford’s, and that was BEFORE we knew abt the affair. Yikes.
But clearly the REPORTER from The State knew where Sanford was – that’s why she was WAITING FOR HIM at the Atlanta airport. I’m guessing some other folks really did know, too, but were playing dumb, like his staff, for instance. They came up with the whole Appalachian Trail thing on their own. But how did she know?? Someone leaked it, I am guessing.
Oh, and Sanford left after the legislative session was over, for what THAT’S worth. It was hugely irresponsible and unprofessional, but as I have stated elsewhere, his leaving did not violate the terms of his office as far as the state constitution goes. Not saying it was RIGHT, or even SMART (it sure as hell wasn’t), just saying it isn’t actionable on that level.
Not to quibble, but taking a five day trip doesn’t QUITE equate to moving to another country. But I get your point.
You are correct. However, should anything have happened while in Argentina, a Constitutional Crisis would have occurred in SC because there was no formal transfer of power while he was gone. That constitutes malfeasance.
I posted this comment on another entry…
If I disappeared from my job for 5 days, didn’t call in and then bumbled in as if nothing had happened I’d be fired. Period.
Actually, not according to the SC Constitution. From the post and Courier yesterday under the State Constitution part:
(http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/jun/24/sanford_expected_back_at_work_today87009/)
According to the paper, our constitution here is, um, “vague” on this point. Amazing, isn’t it?? But there it is (remember, Ferd, this IS South Cackalacki, after all – don’t get your expectations up too high!).
I suppose that I was under the false impression that each state had a line of succession and the means by which such was put into action. I have lived in many states and each one of them did. Sorry to hear about SC. So much for my assumptions. Your neighboring state, Tennessee, to which I returned after several years away (and with great joy in returning, I might add), does have such a succession.
I got tired of all the hullabaloo about Bill Clinton and Monica. I got tired of the Kennedys and their womanizing. I got tired of Foley and Craig, etc. etc. We are human. We make mistakes, whether writ large across the national or global stage or in our own personal lives.
What Barry’s doing is much more important to me. What’s happening with his national health care plan? What’s he doing with the cap and trade? And how bad is our economy really going to get?
There was nothing manly about what he did.
I don’t condone what Clinton did, but I don’t feel that his blowjob from Lewinsky was a public matter, warranting being questioned under oath in the first place.
Gov Sanford was missing, no one knew where he was, therefore making his disappearance a public matter, but as a result of his actions, his private life was exposed. It wasn’t the affair itself that was the issue.
Allegations that Obama is a downlow brother can become a public matter because he is clearly not an advocate of gay rights, affecting the lives of gay voters, when he himself is possibly a homosexual.
There’s always a thin line as far as what is private in public officials lives.
The republicans, and their financial backers, went through great expense to pay Linda Tripp to befriend and spy on Lewinsky to obtain the evidence needed to take Clinton down. I don’t condone what he is either but it that also was matter between consulting adults. Who knows what philandering Sanford would have done had this case gone to trial. It’s obvious that the secret was out.
I don’t feel this is any of our business period. It wasn’t any of our business with President Clinton and his wife. This is an A and B conversation and we need to C our way out of it. Marriage is a set of sacred vows “two” people take between each other. They have to work it out, decide where to go from here for themselves.
Good people do things they’re not proud of. My life is not so perfect that I should be out there casting the first stones at other people for the mistakes/lessons they have to learn in life. To insinuate that this affair wasn’t between two consenting adults is ridiculous or did they say that she was a young teen girl?
If he is doing the job people sent him to do…he’s not the first man/woman to have an affair and he won’t be the last.
Hell, the mayor of LA is living with his girlfriend (a reporter from Mexico)while his wife and children are living in the Mayor’s home(mansion). He openly flaunts his affair in front of the voters, the press, his wife and his children. He’ll probably be re-elected too.
Both Democrats and Republicans have affairs. 1 in 3 marriages fails, they’re not all Republicans.
True that – didn’t that happen with Rudy, too? His wife and kids were living in the Mayor’s Mansion, and the judge told him he couldn’t take his mistress there while his family was there? Yeah – people do stupid things.
Sure, there are some differences, though as I pointed out yesterday, Sanford did not violate the state constitution, nor did he shirk any official business.
It is CLEAR, though, that people knew this was afoot – how else to explain The State having those emails for FIVE MONTHS, and sitting on them until JUST NOW?? All of a sudden they were verified when they hadn’t been before?? Yeah, okay, sure…Nothing coincidental there.
Bottom line, I agree – this is the Sanfords’ problem, just like it was the Edwards’ problem (and John was mighty sanctimonious abt the “sanctity of marriage,” too, don’t forget – so the hypocrisy is the same there, too – and he wasn’t sneaking into break up with his girlfriend, nor did Elizabeth know abt her – just sayin’).
I’ll shut up now and see what else y’all are saying (busy afternoon – grooming Jordan and all)…
I’ve always defended the lewinski scandal as a private affair, but I do have to agree with friends I know who say that it would have been a private matter were it not in the Oval Office and on company time. They have a point. Had the event happened in a hotel, then I would say leave it alone, but I have been convinced that it was a public matter because of the details.
I just wish Republicans would go after Obama the same as they did Clinton. At last with Obama there is much dirt to find. Why are they quiet for this one? Fear of being called racist? I get called a racist still because of my distaste for anything Obama. I am numb now to the accusation. I just simply don’t care. I know the reason and it’s good enough for me. Some great Republican better start looking for the dirt and fast! I have no idea why they kiss Obama’s ass like they do!
lying to a federal judge is a public matter….period
Not all lying under oath is perjury, and one requirement to constitute perjury is materiality. In any trial, someone is usually lying, otherwise there would not be a need for a trial and a finding of fact. When Bill Clinton was impeached, the Republicans controlled the House & Senate for what was always a political witch hunt masquerading as a trial, and he was still not convicted. What Bill Clinton did was not smart (he allowed himself to be set up in a perjury trap), was not right, and was not a violation of criminal laws.
An excellent axiom.
his trial was about sex related acts……the lewinsky matter was about sexual acts……game…set…match
False analogy, Do-Right. The Lewinsky matter was about a disgruntled federal employee who “befriended” an intern and used her to get even with the person that she thought had done her wrong.
It is called jealousy. But then, you aren’t the brightest bulb in that chandelier of a thousand points of light, buster.
Nice one Ferd
Thanks, AC. Actually I remembered a skit with John Goodman in drag on Saturday Night live–put two and two together, and voila. Tripp was repulsive on so many levels that I felt sorry for Monica (for both what WJC and, especially Tripp, did to her).
Oh please! As soon as the Republicans fall from grace, we get a Clinton history lesson. Sanford a man about it? Well, okay he did a public mea culpa. But he also took off for five days to “get it right” with his paramour.
Honestly? I don’t think any of this should be taking headlines. Sanford’s affair is his own personal business. It’s bad enough when a marriage slips out of gear. But to expose an infidelity in public is ridiculous overkill.
Despite what Republicans would have us believe marital problems and sexual liasons are not that uncommon. If you’re lucky, you get to patch things up with a spouse. If not, you split for better or worse.
But Republicans turn themselves into absolute hypocrits being so giddy when it comes to a Dem then shocked when it involves a Republican member.
Infidelity cannot be morally defended. But get a grip. It’s not murder or rape. The Republicans were hellbent on twisting the Monica Lewinsky affair into a major hullabaloo.
So, I don’t feel sorry for any of them now. You reap what you sow!
I second the ‘Oh please!’
Sanford is a big fat hypocrite. I have to say, I tire of all the people, men especially, who stand up and proclaim that they NEVER would do what Bill Clinton did. And just as bad are the ones that are trying to mitigate Sanford’s actions as somehow superior to Clinton’s.
How about this: What happens in a marriage should stay within the marriage. None of us have any idea what’s going on between the governor and his wife and that includes his mistress. It’s simply NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. Just like what happened between Bill and Hillary was NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.
And that includes the fact that he did what all husbands do when caught, LIE FIRST and apologize later.
I feel for yet another political wife who has to be humiliated over the actions of her husband. And who will be ridiculed endlessly by the cacophony of shrew voices who feel that she should kick her husband to the curb just to make them feel like strong women. You know how many men in situations like this really care if their wives kick them to the curb? Very few. It’s probably better to stay and really make their lives miserable.
Just the same, I repeat: NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.
lying to a federal judge is a felony….and a public matter…..period
Not any more factual than a few posts earlier. Some lying to a Federal (or a State)Judge would be a violation of criminal laws, but not all lying or misrepresenting in court rises to that level or is deemed “material”.
oj wasnt convicted …but he was guilty as hell I find it amazing you hang your argument on the issue of being “material”….try using common sense. I suppose clinton wagging his finger at america was ok with you?
OJ was acquitted of murder but found guilty of wrongful death in a civil trial (much lower burden of proof required). As a nation of laws and not of Nancy Grace, we accept the verdict of the jury, and hope that justice is ultimately done some time down the road (OJ is now wearing the prison garb that he probably deserves). As far as Clinton’s finger wagging, no, I’m not alright with that, but I certainly understand the political tactic behind it. Frankly, he should have just told the press, “bite me, it’s none of your damned business”, but he decided he had to make the denial for political reasons, not knowing that the famous blue dress and his DNA was waiting in the wings. Frankly, I’m much more troubled by George Bush and Cheney going before the country and proclaiming “We don’t torture.”
Or the GWB lie of WMD in Iraq — which resulted in the deaths of many on both sides. WJC’s BJ didn’t kill anyone.
didn’t kill anyone
didn’t displace millions
didn’t open up a hornet’s nest in the middle east
didn’t cause us to go trillions in debt
didn’t drive a stake through the heart of our CONSTITUTION
just look at the oath……..”the whole truth and nothing but the truth” that is quite clear and specific……next?
This is why we require judges to go to law school. Sorry Mark, it is just not that simple.
What does either part know about truth?
Take the Plame incident. Scooter Libby was obviousely doing the bidding of a superior, most likey Cheney. Rather then go after the real crime of exposing a covert CIA agent, and the path upward and the likely conspiracy to cover it up, the issue becomes Scooter Libby lying. Plame and the democrats become the villians. Libby gets his sentence commuted, and Cheney, who Libby went to jail for, goes on media tour telling everyone how angry he is with Bush for not granting Libby clemency (for doing his dirty deeds).
Nothing. All they have are agenda… talking points to make their agenda more palatable… and mantras, which when repeated often enough, lull the electorate into a walking stupor.
I should have added that those in that walking, waking stupor are the bots, aka the ditto heads who brought us Shrub and Obumble.
I’m next, drip.
Now really, Markie, so you say a lie under oath is worse than a lie not under oath. Let’s see, if I lie and someone dies but I’m not under oath, then I’m less morally (and legally) culpable than if I swear to tell the truth and then lie? Wow. You do have a perverse opinion of truth.
To the contrary, the truth is the truth, irrespective of where such truth is or is not divulged. You suffer from legalese, a malady that afflicts those who will lie if they think they can get away with it, all the while criticizing those who lie and don’t get away with said. Your own view is obviously one that condones lying where an oath is not taken but has a tantrum where such an oath is. Tell me where the distinction lies. Come on, Markie, clue us all in.
If there is such a thing as honesty and truth, it is not defined by an oath but exists in its own right, whether acknowledged or not. You aren’t so much interested in the truth as you are in scoring points for your own twisted view of reality. Do shut up.
what part of “the whole truth” are you having trouble with?
Which part of truth exists in and of itself, irrespective of where such is said are you having trouble with, selectively indignant one? You seem to have no difficulty with lies elsewhere, even though they are still lies. You remind me of a bush apologist who didn’t mind the lies that drug us into an unnecessary war with the ensuing lives lost but have distinct trouble with a white lie that killed no one.
Why don’t you read the comment, give an answer that doesn’t sound like an attorney’s or a spinmeister’s, and actually come out from behind the facade of truthiness?
If there is such a thing as truth, it does not merely reside in a court room, you purveyor of hogwash.
The part that was not said under oath. see Bush Cheney 911.
Which part of truth exists outside of an oath are you having trouble with, drip? It must be your terminal obtuseness that is getting in the way of communicating fundamental concepts, of which you apparently have no inkling. Too bad for you, shill. You’ll end up in the box that defines you, oblivious to the reality that exists outside your zero-sum existence.
materiality is the issue
A+, AC
Whew….
Thankfully, we had that Republican Independent Counsel Office witch hunt over a bj….so that opening a proper Independent Counsel investigation about a war of convenience wouldn’t be done. /snark
Yours is a very silly argument. To wit:
1) He lied in a civil suit
2) His affair was inconsequential in the realm of governance
3) He did not leave Washington in secret
4) He did not create a succession crisis
5) He was aquitted in the senate after impeachment by the House.
lied in a civil suit…..correct. thats called a felony…..next?
he didnt leave washington in secret…..nope…but he was in the peoples house…the oval office……..as for the succession crisis….was there a crisis in south carolina? was sanfords affair harming south carolina? nope sanford is a dirtbag….but I thought far left people liked that in their politicians….aka mcgreevey…spitzer…barney frank…john edwards….the list is endless
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Ah, the equivocation fallacy. It was a felony ion name only, markie. Have you ever heard of the “so what” test? Didn’t think so, markie. You parents must have had a difficult time potty training you, little boy as your anal-retentiveness
shines throughrears its ugly head each time you comment.3a) He did not leave Washington in secret to serve a fake Turkey to the troops in Iraq.
Correct, teak. Score one for you.
markiemelodramaman apparently is one anal-retentive control freak. OK to lie outside of court but not in it. It seems to me that such a position constitutes a distinction with zero difference.I disagree that this situation was none of our business. The man abandoned his office and disappeared. He aspired to higher office. And he HAD to hold that press conference. He owed the people of South Carolina an explanation for his bizarre behavior. He also has a history of being a self-appointed member of the Legion of Decency when it comes to others (see Clinton, Bill and Livingston, Bob). This episode demonstrates yet again why working for a politician is fraught with peril. Your life is entwined with dependent on their behavior. Their carelessness could lead to you finding yourself out of work through no fault of your own.
I remember meeting a young woman who moved to DC from Georgia to work for Newt Gingrich when he was still Speaker. Within a few weeks she was unemployed. I felt sorry for her. She was an idealistic kid who ended up getting shafted because of Gingrich’s irresponsibilty.
I disagree that this situation was none of our business. The man abandoned his office and disappeared. He aspired to higher office. And he HAD to hold that press conference. He owed the people of South Carolina an explanation for his bizarre behavior. He also has a history of being a self-appointed member of the Legion of Decency when it comes to others (see Clinton, Bill and Livingston, Bob). This episode demonstrates yet again why working for a politician is fraught with peril. Your livelihood is dependent on their behavior. Their carelessness could lead to you finding yourself out of work through no fault of your own.
I remember meeting a young woman who moved to DC from Georgia to work for Newt Gingrich when he was still Speaker. Within a few weeks she was unemployed. I felt sorry for her. She was an idealistic kid who ended up getting shafted because of Gingrich’s irresponsibilty.
They had this information for 5 months huh? hmmm.
That is interesting. The press had information about John Edwards for a long time but sat on that as well.
I guess they pick and choose who they want to expose.
Jack Ryan.
Funny you should bring that up. When I heard about this, I wondered if it wasn’t publicized because Sanford had to be forced to take the stimulus money. I further wondered if he went to think it over after a chat with Rahm. This sounds liek the Chicago way to me. Although Sanford didn’t have to have any dirt that could be exposed so I do not feel sorry for him.
Bingo!!
Well, if publicity was the thing that Sanford was not after, then he should have stayed home and not gone off to a foreign country. Your argument falls upon deaf ears because no one forced the man to leave unexpectedly without signing over the reins of government while he was away. Put the blame where it lies–on the man who left office without notice. Irrespective of who controls the media, this was a patently stupid thing to do–I mean really, I can find no justification for it whatsoever. A spade is a shovel is a farm implement.
My gut says Emmanuel/Axelrod are behind this, just like I believe they bullied John Edwards out of the race or they would expose his affair. Why else would he quit just a few days before Super Tuesday? MoveOn took their poll to see if their membership wanted them to endorse a candidate about five minutes after Edwards dropped out – ensuring that Obama would get enough ‘votes’ from their membership to endorse. Then I believe the Obama puppeteers blackmailed Edwards one more time to endorse Oblowme in Detroit on the same day as Hillary’s triumph in Kentucky and elsewhere, to deflect from how badly she was kicking Oshithead’s sorry ass at the end of the primaries,in stark contrast to their ridiculous meme that the race was over. Then, when Edwards could no longer serve His Nibs, they leaked the affair anyway to destroy Edwards career forever and take him out as any kind of opposition to the Pretender in 2012.
I do not miss the timing of the release of this ‘news’. Hmmmm. Sanford questions the stimulus bill, challenges the usurpation of his state’s powers in court and, lo and behold, dirty laundry is aired. This has been five months in the making. What happened five months ago? Thinking, thinking……oh, yes, that’s right. Barack and his lying sack of steaming shit friends came to power to order us all to live better lives.
What a world, what a world……
Can you imagine what would have happened if this was Gov. Sarah Palin… running off to South America with a paramour? While Todd tended the kids back in AK??
OMG! It would be everywhere. All over the media…. til we all threw up from it.
And no one would be trying to “authenticate” anything. That is for sure. Hell, they’d not only NOT try to authenticate it. They’d be embellishing it night and day….
Jenny Sanford is showing what a classy lady she is. Now I hope the media and others stop judging the Sanford’s personal life and let the family start the healing process whether they remain together or not. For Ms. Stanford the response was heart felt and painful. Any time a woman has to acknowledge that her marriage was not wonderful, hurts to the core. While Ms. Sanford is holding it together for the family this gives her no time to address all the issues and feelings she is going through. May her faith keep her moving forward and may her choices be wise and whatever her decision may she have the strength to follow through.
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i totally agree w/centralmass and thinker. plus all these hypocrites have learned how to handled these situations better and better each time learning from each other.
While all the pundits are talking about “forgiveness” for Sanford, here is what butthead, loser extraordinaire, John Kerry, had to say in response to the “missing governor”:
“Too bad,’’ Kerry said, “if a governor had to go missing it couldn’t have been the governor of Alaska. You know, Sarah Palin.’’
Looks like Kerry was channeling Letterman. These guys are incapable of respecting women and the only reason Letterman “apologized” was because he was losing sponsors (it’s only about the money). They are really threatened by Palin and her ability to connect with people of all party affiliations.
Kerry shouldn’t be talking. He folded like a deck chair in the 2004 presidential election without making the slightest effort to do what he told his supporters he would do “no matter what” – COUNT ALL THE VOTES! What a loser.
And while we are all distracted by this circus, Congress is getting ready to pass an energy bill that will raise our utility costs to astronomic levels. I’ve got to give it to Obamboozler, though — as a liar he stands head and shoulders above everyone else in the entire world. First it was the one about cutting the deficit in half in a couple of years after first he quadruples it. Then today he said this misbegotten turkey of an energy plan will enable us at some unspecified point in the future to pay no more than a postage stamp for our energy costs. We better quit focusing on Sanford’s penis and start calling our elected officials to try and put a stop to this fiasco. Not that I don’t think Sanford is total scum, because he is.
I agree … and I think this is an orchestrated distraction. Now we have some juicy stuff to think about while things go nuts in Iran and nuts in our Congress. Whenever Obama looks weak … whether it’s the Iran situation or questions aobut the health care costs or the energy bill or the firing of the I.G. … whatever … somehow one of these stories appears to take the spotlight off him. How many times are we going to fall for this?
Mandelay makes an excellent point. How perceptive.
Yes, I’m sure the Dims got this chump to take off for five days with his fling…uh huh, right.
I believe this is just a variation of the Dim policy of “never let a good crisis go to waste” only at present it is “never let a good scandal go to waste.” Only you could interpret this as a contention that the Dims actually caused Semen for Brains to go on his little field trip.
Only me? Whatshisname up there said it was an “orchestrated distraction”.
I don’t agree with oBlunder on a lot of things, but I don’t thiny Nancy and Harry have been sitting and waiting for Sanford to reveal his mess…just to pass some energy legislation.
The guy skipped town on Father’s Day! The paper had the good for five months. It was the woman’s husband who finally pulled the plug on things and told Sanford to make it public, or HE (the other husband) would.
Besides, oBlunder is gonna look weak on everything. Even some of the corp. media are catching on.
Some of us around here thing this is/could be a tactic that BOTH sides use to gain some perceived advantage.
And lastly, Marcy, it’s called SARCASM.
Oh, thank you so very much for explaining sarcasm. Little ol’ me would never have figured that out on my own. Now, I’ll try to type slowly for you so you will un-der-stand what I am try-ing to say.
The energy bill, which some thought might have to pass a few more hurdles before being brought to a vote, apparently is going to be voted on tomorrow. How much time is devoted to this issue by the Obamedia? Which issue will affect our lives more, our utility bills skyrocketing or the adventures of little Sanford?
And before you bring it up, I don’t think the Democrats killed Michael Jackson just to throw us off the trail of any other of their sucky legislation.
I could have asked you the same question 11 years ago and I’m sure your answer would have been much different, i.e., Clinton was a bad man and should be punished. I understand that it is all in whose ox is being gored.
By the way, our utility bills will skyrocket irrespective of who is in office (Bush had $5.00/gallon gas on his watch). Speculators will determine the price.
Since Ferd is totally and completely wrong, I am disappointed that my repeated attempts to respond to his comment will not post.
You must be Marcy ‘Arcy. Give my best to Jefferson.
My opinion is mine and as an opinion, it is not wrong–just mine. It is a shame such Sisyphus-like devotion to duty is wasted on another ditto-head like you.
Mea culpa, Marcy. I meant Marcy D’Arcy.
Your opinion that I am anti-Clinton is wrong. Your opinion that I am a ditto-head is wrong. And your attempt to insult me by calling me Marcy Darcy is just stupid. I loved that show and Marcy was one of my favorite characters.
If I promise to immediately thereafter leave this blog forever, will you please allow my full response to Ferd (and any responses to any of his further comments on this topic) to post? Please.
Ferd, since I will keep my promise and not comment here ever again, here is the response I have been attempting to make:
I voted for Bill Clinton every time he ran for office except when John Paul Hammerschmidt defeated him for Congress; I could not vote for him in that race because I did not live in that district. I would vote for him again if I got the chance; I do not now and have never believed him to be a bad man. I do believe that he has been proved beyond any doubt whatsoever, however, to be a total doofus in certain instances which shall go unnamed here. I also believe that Barack Obama and today’s Democratic Congress is not fit to be in the same room with Bill Clinton. I was appalled at the witch hunt by Ken Starr and at the waste of millions of taxpayer dollars and by the hypocritical circus of the impeachment and trial. The only part of that whole spectacle that I enjoyed was seeing Larry Flynt prove the hypocrisy of so many Republicans. So, you would be, what’s the word, oh yeah, WRONG, totally and completely wrong.
I further disagree with your contention that it will not matter whether this energy bill passes. This bill allows Wall Street speculators to participate when carbon allowances are auctioned, effectively allowing them to do to the entire country what Enron did to California a few years ago. Instead of putting heat on House members to vote this turkey down, we are mesmerized by the latest sordid details of the scandal of the day, as brought to us by Obamedia. I blame all the reality shows — I think they cause brain damage. And to anyone who will be parsing this comment, that last sentence was a joke.
I take it that was a big not only no, but hell no. Oh, well. Heaven forbid anyone argue with Ferd.
These faithful wives are to be commended for their sense of loyalty in face of the ultimate betrayal by these high-profile politicians. It’s so unfair.
First, I am sorry for the pain Jenny Sanford and her kids are feeling. Best wishes to them.
Second, may our slimy media grow some backbone and report the news instead of hurling private lives into the soap opera of yellow journalism.
Third, I absolutely believe AxelRahm and co. are behind all this dirt digging to deflect their destruction of our Bill of Rights, our economy and our democracy. They have no soul, no heart and no class.
Fourth (Estate), citizen jounalists, it’s up to us to research and spread the NEWS.
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Who would be better then Hillary? No one comes to my mind. I am afraid though that Hillary may go down with ship USS disasterbama so I hope someone becomes clear soon!
texas playwright- i totally agree. and when i was watching him live yesterday, the feelin i was gettin was somethin was not right. he was way too eager to give soooo much intimate information freely! and then some. who does that?
Well, if he’s really in love with the woman from Argentina, he might ramble on about her even in a sub-optimal situation. That’s what I thought was going on. I mean, he said it was first “a truly remarkable friendship” that evolved into “much, much, more.” And when he talked about who had been hurt, the lover always came before the wife. Why ditch your public responsibilities to take 5 days to cry over “getting your heart right?” That’s what you do when you can hardly bear to tear yourself away from the beloved….he’s besotted and couldn’t resist the urge to go on about her.
Yeah, guys madly in love will sure do this. And later they may slap themselves repeatedly in the face or drive their fists through the wall while chanting “Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!”
Very perceptive comments, Scout.
every person i ever knew in my life that cheated were an overall a**hole. They stole money from people, lied to anyone, some physically abusive, greedy, under-handed, mean, ext. Isnt it funny how that works out. almost like its a (awful) symptom of someone who has qualities you would never want in a public figure (or anyone friend, employee, acountant)
people bring up clinton (who i like too) but sometimes during the election i thought that mabe if that whole scandal didn’t happen she would be in a better postition. People that i asked in my family if they were voting for Hillary said “no, not after what Bill did”. putting her in that position sometimes bothers me now.
the letters being released must be EXTREMELY disturbing for Jenny. I dont have kids, and i just cant imaging if my husband told the women he is sleeping with that she would be great with MY SON. that is heartbreaking. It’s like *take anything else from me you want, say I’m not as good in bed, I dont speak as many languages, I’m not a better women, but dont take away my son from me and say another women would be great with my child* that really cuts. poor Jenny.
You’re right, sad. This really is sad. It is, as you say, “heartbreaking.”
Someone explain to me how politics is different than what we see in the entertainment industry or in corporate business or frankly anywhere else in society.
I don’t condone any adultery no matter who is committing it, what their political beliefs are, how good an athlete they are, how well they entertain us, or how successful in business they are.
The ONE thing that can be concluded from all of these sordid affairs is that gays and lesbians could not do worse when it comes to the institution of marriage and maybe they can teach the rest of us something.
Sure looks like a major set up to me, how did the media get hold of his personal e-mails? That is what I would like the media to find out, was it someone in his office sent these letters to the press, was it his wife?
Sure seems strange that the press got their hands on these emails, and I am sure if he knew he had that on his computer he was not going to let everyone has access to it, so who broke into his com files?
Funny they can get that information, yet they couldn’t find, Rezko, Blago, Wright, birth certificate issues, annenberg challenge, Ayers, Farrakan, Auchi, and many other things. Funny, that.
Agreed they sure got the goods on this guy love letters, and up to this day we cant find out one thing Obama did in his college years, no love letters, no old girl friends, no grads nothing.
I sure wish someone would be so forth coming on getting the goods out on Obama I would bet he will have a few skeletons in his closet.
They couldn’t get anything to stick on a group that sold banned weapons to a terrorist state, laudered money throught the drug cartel, and funded a covert war either.
EXACTLY, politicalidentitycrisis – that was EXACTLY my thought. They can’t find ANY of Obama’s IL state papers, ANY of his date books, NONE of his transcripts, and all you mentioned, but they can find these private emails??? Uh huh. That’s not at all suspicious.
I agree. It smells like Chicago style politics, don’t you think?
It does not excuse Sanford’s behavior and I do think he should resign with dignity – unlike Blago.
It seems the targets are potential GOP Presidential candidates (Palin, Ensign, and now Sanford)
If this is true, he and his people must be really worried about 2012.
It gets worse… apparently John Kerry wishes it WAS Gov. Sarah Palin that went missing.
Yes it is too bad, Senator Kerry. Too bad for you and your cronies, that is.
Well, “reporting for duty” Kerry is responsible for Bush’s second term. Maybe he might remember that before he pats himself on the back for his stand-up routine.
LMAO. I forgot that silly-ass “reporting for duty” at the convention in ‘04. Too bad he fell asleep at the wheel.
I say he is pulling a Letterman, or the Dems really are afraid of Sarah Palin.
Personally I vote the later.
I do, too. Sarah is tough as nails. I think the world of women who can be tough and yet not be a wall-flower. She’d get my vote again.
Kerry is such a LOSER!
There are a lot of losers in politics. I can rattle of a few hundred without breaking a sweat.
Good point, docelder.
And yes, SYD, that “joke” was offensive, too – seems to me that she has managed her state pretty damn well. How’s MA doing these days??
Again, I don’t agree with her politics, but she doesn’t deserve all of the classist, elitist, misogynistic BS she gets, either…
Amy,
Such elegant adjectives:
I do agree with you 100%, except I would not have used such positive adjectives.
John K is NOT clean either – seems he likes sleepovers w/ladies who are NOT named Teresa
Heinz Kerry. If you go over to “Discover the Networks” and type in her name, there will be an article on the right side in Front Page Magazine Online.
LOL – I was cleaning up my language. For some reason, people expect that from a rev – but feel free to let loose!
I would not be ONE bit surprised to find that out abt John K, or heck – a bunch of them, for that matter.
Amy be bad
When will these old fools understand Viagra make you think with the wrong head, The side effects are expensive.
PS
Has the twitter from inside Iran stopped? I saw a thing on Atlas Shrugged that say it was stopped. Isn’t the only form of communication that the protesters had to the outside world. I do not know anything about twitter but was reading the posts about what was being communicated.
WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
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I was wondering about Iran, too. It sure seems the MSM has lost interest in the protests. did they get marching orders from Crisisbama because they were making him look bad????
I really hate our Government. When are we going to really protest? I will be at my 7/4 tea party, but peaceful doesn’t seem to do anything but bring about sick jokes from the MSM and Ocrisis just laughs and shrugs his shoulders!
helenk,
Seems Iran had agents outside the country trying to find tweeters, and some got arrested. That may have to do with no one getting through as they are being very cautious about responding to ANYONE who has not been tweeting since first day.
This is a pretty reliable site so just go to the bottom of the tweets and you can read the info:
http://twitter.com/oxfordgirl
The sad thing is that if all adulterers were tossed out of politics, there would likely be very few elected officials left. Seems to me there is a relationship between the perceived ‘power’ of a politician and the likelihood of an affair. But why is it that a Republican caught in an affair is dealt with more harshly than a Dem, all things being equal?
In this case, the affair should be a personal thing between him and his wife, and he should only resign if there is proof of some other impropriety (use of state funds, for example).
I’m more curious if his Lt. Governor was aware Sanford was gone. Isn’t that one of the duties of a LG?
For the record, what concerned me most re: Clinton was not the affair itself, the lying, or the on the job / white house issue. It is more the age difference, combined with the difference in power and the fact that ML was an intern. I’d have felt much differently if it had been a 45-year old businesswoman with whom Clinton had an affair.
She had reached the age of majority. Many women and men, for that matter, prefer older mates. When I was 21, I didn’t want old fogies telling me what to, especially since I was finally free. Of course, at age 52, my opinion is quite different. Monica had a right to make her own decisions. It is that pitiable creature, Linda Tripp, who “befriended” her who is the truly evil one. She used Monica to get back at her perceived malefactors. She betrayed everyone involved with her back-stabbing and disgruntled nature.
OT, sorry:
wow, was just over at Red Dragon, report is that Michael Jackson has died of cardiac arrest. I guess this has probably been all over the msm, but I seldom look at it. I remember when I was really little watching him on tv. It doesn’t seem like he could have been 50.
While I did not care for his mien, he was an extremely talented person. The waste of such an enormous talent was and is a shame. Rest his soul.
Hard to believe, isn’t it?? And the O/T is understandable – it’s pretty shocking….
Amy,
Such elegant adjectives:
I do agree with you 100%, except I would not have used such positive adjectives.
John K is NOT clean either – seems he likes sleepovers w/ladies who are NOT named Teresa
Heinz Kerry. If you go over to “Discover the Networks” and type in her name, there will be an article on the left side in Front Page Magazine Online.
Where have you been? I wouldn’t use those adjectives to describe most of our government employees, whether elected, selected, appointed, or hired. Hell, if you check out just about any representative/senator through any search engine of your choice, you will find some sort of dirt. I have worked for a government contractor for over 18 years and I can tell you from experience that many are somewhat corrupted by their very position as an employee of the federal government.
If you want to throw around negatives, ensure that you do so with an unbiased eye.
Whoa Fred – I was being snarky.
Thanks for the tip on Politico’s. However, I am aware of it. Just that John Kerry’s behavior truly disgusts me as I volunteered for him back in 2004.
If he wants to throw everyone he is against into the toilet, no reason Mr. Unclean deserves to go unscathed
Kerry made my Dead To Me Dem list when he backed lil Barry.
He is a tool that is looking for his 15 minutes of fame still.
Evening, PK.
Kerry was derelict in that duty he allegedly reported for, imo. He was an utter disappointment.
Evening Ferd, ltns. He sure was a disappointment.
He is another one that should be voted out of his seat. Time for some new blood on the hill.
Amen to that sentiment. He lost my support when he pussied out the first time with his “I voted for… before I voted against” nonsense. Up until that point, this veteran and step-father of another veteran with two tours in Iraq and one in Kosovo was all for Kerry as the Iraq war was an unnecessary diversion from the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
JK failed miserably and we got four more years of wanton Dubya stupidity, which is now to be followed by four more years of wanton stupidity in the guise of Obumble.
If I offended you, mea culpa–truly. However, it does not go unnoticed by me that the things our current president is doing (and I was against him from the beginning, am a staunch HRC supporter, and voted for McCain–i.e., I’m a PUMA) are no worse than the sorts of things Chimpy McFlightsuit did. I am a radical centrist who grows weary of the same old song-and-dance routine that went out with the demise Vaudeville, except in DC and in the craniums of automatons of any political stripe.
Fred,
No mea culpa’s necessary.
I do see what you mean about Obama. Perhaps for me it is too much research and therefore information. GWB and Cheney were blatantly about oil and the hell with killing troops to get it. At least they believed they were doing what they erroneously but sincerely felt best for USA in the long term.
My sense with Obama is that he is truly dangerous to us and every precept we hold dear. Hopefully by summers end I will have taken care of enough of my personal business to prove why.
I am also PUMA, and coming from NH have always been a fiscal conservative and social moderate. We call that common sense.
Agreed on the idiocy of same old song and dance. Am working on some plans to use O’s Alinsky (Al Capone codified) against him.
Have draft outline – need to fill in so WE THE PEOPLE are driving the agenda and creating some “manufactured crises” for the over-aged adolescents in the WH.
Nellie:
I’m with you. Those of us who want “Live Free or Die” (yeah, I’m also a history buff) want no part of either party.
Yep, Ferd, I’m all partied out for this lifetime.
No more stinking badges!
Party Unity My Ass!
I second that, oowawa. The only parties I’ll join in must include dry martinis–stirred, intelligent conversation of any political persuasion, and be situated as far from the seat(s) of power as humanly possible.
PUMA
Nellie, Maybe the force be with you in that endeavor.
In the meantime there are demonstrations in both Iran and Irag….The bomb deaths in Iraq are really starting to add up
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31542844/ns/world_news-conflict_in_iraq
The phone is still ringing in the White House. Barry is scared to pick up the phone at 3am.
Both countries have citizens who need to keep up the pressure. We can point the way but cannot lead them
Confused American,
This may be hard to understand, but there WILL BE an increase in violence. As American’s with draw from the cities, there will be old scores settled between Shite and Sunni’s.
It is horrible to us, but it has been that way between them for hundreds of years. Changes in old cultural habits evolve only when there is freedom to evolve. Otherwise it will always be the settling of scores of repression and no forward movement.