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Is Admiral Olson Unbalanced?

(bumped up from this morning)

Let me state at the outset that I have high regard for Admiral Eric Olson, Commander of Special Operations Command based in Tampa, Florida. However, I think Admiral Olson has imbibed too much of the kool-aid and is offering a prescription for a problem that is grossly exaggerated–terrorism. I believe that terrorism is a real threat that we should take seriously. I am not advocating “ignoring” it. However, to pretend that terrorism is the gravest, most significant threat we’ve ever faced is lunacy and ignorant.

Admiral Olson’s piece, A Balanced Approach to Irregular Warfare, was published in Security Affairs. Let me take you thru his piece.

Spring 2009 – Number 16

A Balanced Approach to Irregular Warfare

Admiral Eric T. Olson

To successfully deter and confront the global insurgency threatening the world and our nation today, the U.S. military must be able to employ a balanced approach to warfare, carefully blending the full spectrum of military, para-military and civil action to achieve success. It is an approach I refer to as “balanced warfare.” It is the manner in which our nation’s Special Operations Forces are combating terrorism today, and it is the guiding principle behind the Department of Defense’s campaign plan to combat global terrorism.

The environment

Today, we find ourselves living in a “new normal.” The world is not going to go back to the way it was before 9/11. Our national security is threatened not only by terrorists and terrorist organizations, but also by fragile states either unwilling or unable to provide for the most basic needs of their people. Further, sovereignty is not what it used to be; advances in communications, transportation and global networking continue to make borders more transparent, economies more interconnected, and information available on an unprecedented scale. The effects of this globalization create stresses on underdeveloped and developing nations and societies, which in turn create regional instability and unrest.

Here’s the reality–the military only has a minor role to play in the so-called “war on terrorism.” Terrorists are not organized nor do they operate in units that make them feasible targets for the U.S. military. Do you realize that the killing of the three pirates who held the Captain of the Maersk Alabama hostage was the first counter terrorism op of its kind since the SEAL unit with the counter terror mission was established? They did a great job. But such opportunities are few and far between.

Our national security is not threatened existentially by terrorists or terrorist organizations. They do not have the reach or numbers required to threaten our nation’s security in the way that Russia or China can threaten us. Hell, not even North Korea or Iran are a “threat” to our national security. A genuine threat to our nation’s security is one that can destroy millions of Americans and wipe out our ability to retaliate effectively. Hitler’s Germany, Tojo’s Japan, and Stalin’s Soviet Union posed existential threats.

Terrorists are a fucking nuisance. I am not saying, “give them a pass.” Hell no. We should kill or capture them and put them in jail. But stop the nonsensical mythologizing that presents the terrorists as a 21st Century version of Ghengis Khan or the German barbarians. We can contain and seriously weaken the ability of groups that want to use terrorism to punish or pressure America. A “war footing” makes for good political theater but as a policy it is useless and costly.

As a result of our current environment, war is not what it used to be. Traditionally defined forms of warfare such as counterinsurgency, unconventional warfare and guerrilla warfare are now lumped under the umbrella term of “irregular warfare.” We have commonly referred to the current conflict as the Global War on Terrorism, but this term means something else when translated into most other languages. Our current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, identified it best when he wrote recently, “What is dubbed the war on terrorism, in grim reality, is a prolonged, worldwide, irregular campaign—a struggle between the forces of violent extremism and those of moderation.”1 Regardless of how the term is defined, one thing remains constant: The type of warfare we fight on the ground is not determined by what forces we have on the ground; it is determined by our adversaries.

We need to be responsive enough to adjust rapidly to what the enemy throws at us, and we need to have the agility to transcend the spectrum of conflict. In many cases, we fight at various levels of conflict simultaneously. The ability to do this successfully requires a holistic approach to warfare, aimed at both eliminating our most determined adversaries and eroding the conditions which led to their behavior.

So, if our enemy operates in very small groups and hides among civilian populations does the military, even special ops, have much of a role. Not really. These are missions better handled by intelligence and law enforcement organizations. Unfortunately, Admiral Olson has a bit of a Hollywood mentality when it comes to fighting terrorists. He enjoys the fantasy that the U.S. spec ops guys (and some gals) will ride to the rescue.

Really? Then explain why the U.S. special ops forces (and the U.S. Government for that matter) sat on its hands and did nothing to respond to the Al Qaeda backed terrorist attack last year in Mumbai, India. Americans were killed and held hostage. And Bush was in charge instead of wimpy Barack. What happened? Nothing from the U.S. side.

We once again were confronted by the reality of national sovereignty. In this case, India’s. India dictated who could do what in their country. Once we recognize that the number of “failed” states in the world–i.e., nation’s with no effective national government or military force–are very few then you begin to understand that U.S. military forces, even the most elite spec ops units, are not welcome.

This is not new. Back in the 1990s a terrorist group in Peru, Tupac Amaru, took over the home of the Japanese Ambassador in Lima, Peru. The terrorists held hundreds of hostages. The result–the Peruvians rejected offers of help from the US, the Brits, the Israelis, the Germans, the French, etc. They did let a couple of U.S. military folks offer some advice but they kept control and ultimately, with some help from intelligence services, launched a successful rescue op.

Sorry Admiral, but your “new” world is old news. The major differences between terrorism today and terrorism in the 1980s is that there are fewer terrorist groups and most of the terrorism today is carried out by Islamic extremists. It is a narrower threat.

The strategy

The Department of Defense campaign strategy against terrorism is contained in Concept Plan (CONPLAN) 7500. Crafted at the United States Special Operations Command and approved by the Secretary of Defense—first Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and subsequently Secretary Gates—it serves as both the guiding plan within the Department of Defense and a supporting plan in the interagency environment for combating terrorism. It is supported by regional Global War on Terrorism plans crafted by each of the geographic combatant commanders around the world.

The United States Special Operations Command is uniquely suited to develop a campaign plan for what is essentially a global insurgency. Formed primarily out of U.S. Army Special Forces and Naval Special Warfare units created to combat the guerrilla and insurgent threats facing the United States in the 1950s and 1960s, the Command can draw upon the resident knowledge and institutional expertise required for counterinsurgency planning. Since the Army officially established its Special Warfare Center in 1956 for the purpose of training its servicemembers in counterinsurgency operations, unconventional warfare and psychological operations, the officers and noncommissioned officers assigned to these specialty areas are drawing on five decades of experience in developing the doctrine for, and conducting, insurgent and counterinsurgent warfare.

The approaches

CONPLAN 7500 provides the framework for two approaches for influencing the behavior of our adversaries: direct and indirect. While the direct approach focuses on isolating and defeating the threat, mostly through violent, kinetic actions, the indirect approach focuses on shaping and influencing the environment itself.

The direct approach consists of those efforts that disrupt violent extremist organizations—the polite way of saying capturing, killing, and interdicting terrorists and terrorist networks to prevent them from harming us in the near term. It also denies access to and use of weapons of mass destruction by violent extremist organizations, many of which have declared their specific intent to acquire and use such weapons to kill great numbers of people in the U.S. and elsewhere. These operations are conducted largely by the military. The direct approach is urgent, necessary, chaotic and kinetic, and the effects are mostly short term.

But they are not decisive. Enduring results come from the indirect approaches—those in which we enable partners to combat violent extremist organizations themselves by contributing to their capabilities through training, equipment, transfer of technology, wargaming, and so forth. It consists of efforts to deter tacit and active support for violent extremist organizations where the government is either unwilling or unable to remove terrorist sanctuaries. It is the efforts to shape and stabilize the environment that impact the enemy in the longterm. This is truly “draining the swamp,” rather than simply attempting to capture or kill all of the “alligators.”

In a global campaign against terrorism, these two approaches are rarely mutually exclusive of one another. While the direct approach is mostly decisive in its impact, it also buys the time for the indirect approach to have its desired effect. Capturing and killing adversaries will always be necessary, but we will not kill or capture our way to victory. Nor will we talk our way to victory. The key to long-term success in a global campaign against terrorism lies in changing behavior.

Nonsense!! CONPLAN 7500 is a fantasy cruise. Let’s hear the good Admiral explain why CONPLAN 7500 (there are several classified annexes to this plan) stayed on the shelf during Mumbai. Explain why that plan remained on the shelf during the rescue of the Alabama’s Captain Philips. While there are some missions the military can do, the opportunities are few and far between.

From theory to practice

Although these two approaches are easily defined in theory, they are often difficult to distinguish in practice. People, units and capabilities cannot be categorized as direct or indirect in nature; only activities can be, and only at the time they are occurring. Oftentimes, they are intertwined and occurring simultaneously.

A great example is what most Special Operations Forces are doing on most days in Iraq—eating, living, planning, preparing, and fighting with the Iraqi Special Operations Forces. When these forces fight, they look like us, they move like us, they shoot like us; they take all of the actions at the objective that we would. Through night-vision video, it is difficult to tell them apart from us. And that, after all, is the point. The ultimate effect is the enabling of our partners to combat violent extremist organizations themselves, so that eventually we can turn the operations over to them—and they will be able to control their own destiny. That intertwining happens several times a night, in several places across Iraq, and it consumes most of our force there on any given day. Disrupting violent extremist organizations has had a powerful impact in Iraq, and we are seeing a dramatic reduction of al-Qaeda’s capability there.

Another example of the direct and indirect approaches to warfare can be seen in the counterinsurgency efforts being conducted by our Special Forces detachments in Afghanistan. During a recent seven-month deployment, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, consisting of about 2,400 total personnel, conducted nearly three thousand operations where the operation was expected to be non-kinetic (with no anticipation of an exchange of gunfire). Additionally, its soldiers conducted over two thousand operations where they anticipated, or experienced, an exchange of gunfire, resulting in several thousand enemies killed or captured. More importantly, they also treated 50,000 local nationals in medical, dental and various other kinds of clinics. Among their various humanitarian operations, they dropped nearly a million pounds of supplies in places that would not have otherwise received aid. They established 19 local radio stations and distributed almost 8,000 radios to ensure the broadcasts could be heard. They completed a large number of construction and engineering projects, often in partnership with the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). In turn, these projects, consisting of the construction of culverts, bridges, irrigation systems and schoolhouses, have had a tremendous impact on the local population.

Throughout the same period, the same task force—along with representatives from other branches of the U.S. military, various U.S. government agencies, and local Afghan security forces—employed 1,347 Afghans, and engaged heavily with the local population. In the event of a shura (an organized meeting of local leaders), a Special Forces A-Team Commander attended and negotiated any number of issues: “How can we help? How can we engage? What do you know that we might want to know?” During their seven-month deployment, these detachments went to such meetings more than 300 times. They also conducted less formal meetings, where, while on routine patrol, they would stop in a village and talk to the village elder. There were 950 of these meetings during the same period. A total of 1,200 engagements with local leaders took place during the course of that deployment, and these intertwining actions had a powerful effect on the battlefield.

The application of the balanced approach is not limited to areas where we are engaged in armed conflict, such as Iraq and Afghanistan. Our nation’s Special Operations Forces are also at work applying the indirect approach to combating terrorism in several other parts of the world as well. On a typical day, the operational forces of the U.S. Special Operations Command can be found in 60 to 70 countries, primarily conducting foreign internal defense (FID) and civil affairs operations.

In the case of FID, the effort is focused on enhancing the internal security of other nations, primarily through unit-to-unit engagement and training events. These operations either involve an Army Special Forces A-team, a Navy SEAL platoon, Air Force combat aviation advisors, or a Marine special operations team working in a remote place with a handful of counterparts. For many of the partner nation units, this is the most prestigious training they will get all year, and the participants are handpicked. Very important relationship building occurs during these FID events.

Civil affairs operations, some of which occur in conjunction with FID, nation building, and humanitarian assistance missions, are different. Under the umbrella of civil affairs operations, we do not paint schools and dig wells, but we help determine which schools need to be painted and where the wells should be dug. We normally contract with local organizations to do the work so everybody benefits. This also helps empower local leaders in their efforts to provide improved governance and services.

Here Admiral Olson is counting on the ignorance of the average American. The counter terrorism units under Olson’s command are highly classified and rarely briefed even to other U.S. senior officers. For example, when I was a Fox News analyst in 2002 I shared the air with General Paul Vallely and General Thomas McInnerny. I was read in and cleared for access to these classified units. Neither General ever had been. They spent their careers outside the tent of the CT community in the military.

When these units go overseas they do not seek out locals for the kind of interaction and training that Green Beret Special Forces teams do. They view their mission as “counter terrorism” not “counter insurgency.” Here’s the sad truth–the U.S. Army Special Forces units are some of the most effective we have on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan but they receive the least respect from the regular Army and even the Spec Ops community.

Olson is doing a bang up job of selling his boys and promoting their budget, but you can cut the SOCOM budget by 20% and not lose any significant capability.

Persistent presence

The key to success in applying the indirect approach is persistence. Building partnerships requires the development of meaningful military-to-military relationships. That effort is long-term, and the effects are enduring. This approach not only builds partner nation capacity and regional stability, but it also deters the tacit and active support of sanctuaries that foster and develop future terrorists. Again, the effect is to drain the proverbial swamps—the perceived social injustice, and the persecution and intimidation—that can feed the germs of terrorist activity.

The decisive effects of such persistent engagement can be seen in places like the Philippines, where for over five years Special Operations Forces have been advising and assisting that nation’s armed forces in their successful campaign against Islamic insurgents. Even more pronounced are the effects of our nation’s persistent partnership with, and military engagement in, Colombia. For over 10 years, U.S. Special Operations Forces have been advising and assisting the armed forces of Colombia in the fight against the leftist Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC). In recent years, the Colombian armed forces have dealt serious blows to that organization, culminating with the recent dramatic and brilliant rescue of U.S. and Colombian hostages in 2008 in an operation that was completely planned, led and conducted by Colombian forces.

Staying the course

The concepts behind balancing these direct and indirect approaches in what amounts to a global counterinsurgency effort are not new to irregular warfare. They are the product of the doctrine developed over decades by our Special Operations Forces. In a 1962 address to the U.S. Army Special Forces on the topic of what was then referred to as “special warfare,” President John F. Kennedy stated:

Pure military skill is not enough. A full spectrum of military, para-military, and civil action must be blended to produce success. The enemy uses economic and political warfare, propaganda and naked military aggression in an endless combination to oppose a free choice of government, and suppress the rights of the individual by terror, by subversion and by force of arms. To win this struggle, our officers and men must understand and combine the political, economic and civil actions with skilled military efforts in the execution of this mission.2

Regardless of the name we use—special warfare, counterinsurgency warfare, irregular warfare—one thing is for certain: it characterizes the nature of warfare we are experiencing, and will experience, for the foreseeable future. We must recognize that “pure military skill” will not be enough. While the ability to conduct high-end, direct action activities will always remain urgent and necessary, it is the indirect approaches, working through and with others in building a global network of partners, that will have the most decisive and enduring effects.

Admiral Eric T. Olson is the eighth commander of U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). He is a Naval Special Warfare officer and a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy and the Naval Postgraduate School. He has been designated a Joint Specialty Officer and Political-Military Affairs sub-specialist on Africa and the Middle East. His awards include the Distinguished Service Medal and the Silver Star.

1. Robert M. Gates, “A Balanced Strategy,” Foreign Affairs, January/February 2009.
2. John F. Kennedy, Speech to the United States Army, April 11, 1962, as reprinted in Special Warfare: An Army Specialty(Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1962).

Don’t get me wrong. I have enormous respect and affection for the men (and the few women) who serve under Olson. They are brave, hardworking and have made tremendous sacrifices. They do have a role to play in the campaign to go after terrorists. But they are not Robert DeNiro or Leonardo DiCaprio–the star. They are a bit player who gets on stage once in a while. It is only if policy makers understand that truth that we can start fixing the lingering problems in mounting the full force and power of the United States against terrorists who wish to do us harm.

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Comment by J | 2009-06-25 08:13:09

Larry,

Is Adm. Olson seeking a ‘political office’, besides trying to ‘enlarge HIS turf’? That’s the way I’m reading his ‘essay’, or are my eyeballs playing with mirages.

 

Comment by mark connette | 2009-06-25 08:27:42

This post by larry is dangerous. 9-11 was caused by thinking the terrorist problem was a police matter….to go back to fighting it like it was a police matter is a grave mistake…

 

Comment by mark connette | 2009-06-25 08:54:01

the title suggests that the admiral is “unbalanced”…..just like obama claiming that gerald walpin the fired inspector general…was senile

Comment by Gleep | 2009-06-25 09:27:51

The difference, Sir Failbot, is that Larry can’t fire the General. Having a political opinion about someone totally unrelated to you and having a medical opinion about an employee that you can fire are two very different things. But hey, don’t let those pesky details bother you.

 

Comment by ces | 2009-06-25 13:47:59

Or maybe, it could be his viewpoint is unbalanced, in favor or heavy military, instead of the special ops Larry mentions.

But damn, that’d be logical and not an emotional way of reading it. Who’dathunkit?

 
 

Comment by J.J. (The PUMA) | 2009-06-25 09:45:30

I only partially agree with Larry. Terrorists don’t threaten us the way we were threatened in the Cuban Missle Crisis. But, an Iranian bomb would have the capability of killing millions, and thereby wrecking our economy for a generation. But, what we have seen terrorism already accomplish is a deterioration of our values born out of fear. That is why we condone torture, and give the president the power to declare even American citizens as enemy combatants.

To my mind preventing an Islamic Extremist Bomb is our number one priority.

Comment by mark connette | 2009-06-25 09:50:25

I agree. and going back to the police as the primary terror fighting tool is wrong…..and stupid

Comment by jwrjr | 2009-06-25 10:17:10

And your experience in counter-terrorism is … what?

Comment by mark connette | 2009-06-25 10:26:46

my experience is watching the first wtc attack…the attack on 2 embassies in africa. the u.s.s. cole and 9-11 and most important of all. my experience is common sense. the “gorelick” memo is one of the things that brought on 9-11 and the use of police to go after terrorists….whats your experience?

Comment by ces | 2009-06-25 12:51:14

The Millenium action was prevented with “police” actions.

And the first WTC bombers are now in a supermax prison in Colorado…by “police” forces.

You don’t find snakes in the grass by cutting down the trees.

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2009-06-25 14:12:18

In other words, you have no experience at all. As for my experience, I am not claiming to know more than Larry. You are.

Comment by J.J. (The PUMA) | 2009-06-25 19:26:58

I am not claiming to know more than Larry. I am just claiming to have another opinion than Larry.

Comment by jwrjr | 2009-06-25 23:28:56

Sorry that I was unclear. The comment was for “mark connette”.

Comment by mark connette | 2009-06-26 08:17:48

sorry….I never claimed to be smarter than anyone…….

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-06-25 21:52:14

Iranian bomb … a sovereign state.

 
 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-06-25 10:13:03

i’d say both sides have a point. the police can and should be used more in conjunction with other service/sources. the military can be used at appropriate times. it sounds like this olson is trying to make sure he is in line for the doled out monies.

my concern lay with bush and the invasion of iraq misuing the military there. of course we cannot go back to the mindset before 9/11 and we can’t afford the mindset of the pelosi/obama crowd either. misuse of the military doesn’t work(bush) and apologizing to the world doesn’t work(obama). a little common sense would sure be nice.

 

Comment by Ladydawnelle | 2009-06-25 10:22:38

“it is a narrower threat”

THANK YOU LARRY! Jez Louise you would think if you ONLY watched FOX and Prick Chainsaw Dick Cheney that the world was run completely by Terrorists.

A view from the far left (where I once stood) that rhetoric has been a YAWN for years (thanks to those mentioned above) and it’s a shame they went so over board. Now they’ll never live the lies down. I mean I don’t recall anyone bombing the hell out of Saudi Arabia?? (um pilots 911,911,911,911!!!!)

I’ve recovered from the 911 yawn but still don’t FEAR it even as much as I FEAR the new THEFT by the LYING LEFT!

Comment by Animal Control | 2009-06-25 15:31:09

THEFT by the LYING LEFT!

Like it!

 
 

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-06-25 10:41:43

“The decisive effects of such persistent engagement can be seen in places like the Philippines, where for over five years Special Operations Forces have been advising and assisting that nation’s armed forces in their successful campaign against Islamic insurgents.”
We are apparently doing more than advising and assisting: the first US soldier was wounded in combat in May.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/05/09/18593985.php
And we now seem to be favoring a semi-independent Moro state.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/philippines-fighting-worst-5-years-while-us-plays-both-sides

 

Comment by Lonni | 2009-06-25 10:43:46

I agree with Admiral Olsen and don’t think he is “unbalanced”. This sort of military planning happened long before 911. It hit it’s first test run in Viet Nam. While there were brigades, pilots firing missiles and such during the VN war from the regular Vietnamese military there were also gorilla fighters and “tunnel rats” that the American forces were not prepared for. Especially considering that these “gorilla fighters” could blend in with the civilians during the day and the only way to route them out was by getting to know the populace and enlisting their help. I see Admiral Olsens’ paper as a plan to combat terrorism on all it’s fronts…not just a group of wild-eyed, bomb-toting radical extremists.

Comment by JozefAL | 2009-06-25 11:38:29

If you’re going to use a word, spell the damned thing correctly.
The word is GUERRILLA, not “gorilla”. The former is a member of a fighting unit, usually one acting in resistance to a superior army by using unconventional fighting tactics. The latter is a type of large ape.
(Incidentally, most of the early American fighters during the Revolution used tactics that would later become prominent features of guerrilla warfare, especially when compared to the standard conventions of war that the British soldiers employed.)
Some may think this a minor nitpick, but but it isn’t. (A real nitpick would be pointing out the incorrect use of “it’s” in the sentence immediately following the reference to 9/11.) Lonni’s trying to make an argument using a misspelled word–twice–to bolster that argument.
I’d also point out, Lonni, that terrorists do NOT use “guerrilla” tactics. Terrorists now are using the SAME tactics that terrorists (whether the people who assassinated the various tsars or the Jews in Palestine from the 1920s to the 1940s or the Algerians and the Mau Mau in Kenya in the 1950s) have used since the advent of modern terrorism.

Comment by Patience | 2009-06-25 12:48:07

Guerrilla tactics employed during the American Revolution included snipers. Couldn’t today’s use of IE devices be considered a guerrilla tactic?

Comment by Animal Control | 2009-06-25 15:35:59

 
 
 
 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-06-25 11:11:31

Larry wrote: “So, if our enemy operates in very small groups and hides among civilian populations does the military, even special ops, have much of a role. Not really. These are missions better handled by intelligence and law enforcement organizations.”

EXACTLY. So why in the world are we at war with Afghanistan? Why are we bombing, firing missiles, killing, maiming innocent civilians?

“Razia had just finished breakfast when U.S., French and Afghan forces
appeared near her village March 14 in the Tagab Valley of Kapisa, north of
Kabul. Abdul Aziz, a father of nine, told his children to get inside their
mud-brick home.

But two shells ripped through the house. Fire, smoke and dust filled the
room.

“The sound of the blast was very strong and I was almost unconscious. I
couldn’t think. My children were shouting at me: ‘Wake up! You’re
burning!” Aziz said.

Flames engulfed Razia. Aziz dumped a bucket of water on her but the
chemicals burned on. Two of Razia’s sisters lay dead. Five other family
members, including the mother, were seriously wounded.

Aziz took Razia to the Afghan soldiers near his home, but they could do
nothing. A private Afghan vehicle took Aziz and his daughter to the nearby
French base. Razia slipped in and out of consciousness as her father
poured water on her face to keep her awake.

White phosphorus burns until it’s gone. It can burn right down to the
bone.”

photo of now Razia.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2427/3659502653_ea8acee1dd.jpg?v=0

Comment by mark connette | 2009-06-25 11:53:46

Im a linda too……..yours is the most absurd post I have seen in a long time

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-06-25 13:56:28

the use of white phosphorus and thermobaric weapons, both of which the US and the UK have employed (supplied by us, of course), is detestable, and pointing it out is not at all absurd, troll.
you need to learn to do research and offer some sort of informed commentary instead of mindless criticism of other people’s posts.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/28/british-pilots-afghanistan-thermobaric-weapons
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Thermobaric_weapon good description on how thermobaric weapons work
http://www.futurefirepower.com/thermobaric-weapon-explosive-fuel-air-bombs video

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-06-25 14:01:06

Absurd. It seems the only absurd thing is you. Do you know what the word means, even?

Of course, while you stop by to make your Organizing model, could you at least try, just try, make an effort to explain what is so absurd?

That Obama is at war with a country that did nothing and is killing and maiming innocent civilians and children. In that case, I would have to agree with you.

But we appreciate that this honesty shook you enuf while cruising this blog to have to make any effort to try support Obama’s policies and organizing models. lol

 
 

Comment by Animal Control | 2009-06-25 15:46:27

Why are we bombing, firing missiles, killing, maiming innocent civilians?

Because for the “right makes might crowd” there is immediate gratification rather than spending the untold billions finding cures for cancer, diabetes, and other disabling diseases.

 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-06-25 12:07:51

I agree with Larry. As horrific as 9/11 was for the whole country, I think most reasonable people would admit that going into Iraq was senseless and stupid. The terrorists have been marketed as the new boogie man. Afterall, we needed an enemy to replace the Godless Soviet Union. And Bin Laden was the perfect ruse, to keep us fearful and angry and agree to the gross expenditures in military equipment. Cheney knew exactly what he was doing: exchanging the Cold War for the War on Terrorism.

As a population? We’ve been had on many fronts. The real war right now is on our economic flank. And we’re being gouged repeatedly by the same Kings of the Mountain.

Thanks for the article, Larry. This one should provoke alot of comments. As it should.

 

Comment by Patience | 2009-06-25 13:01:29

If I understand Larry’s article correctly, I have to agree that effectively defeating terrorism will rely on good intelligence rather than military force. Terrorists who are a threat to the US don’t line up in red coats in an open field — they’re either rogues or cells. And suicidal at that. Terrorist plots that’ve been thwarted so far relied on intelligence, not soldiers.

I’m curious to know what Larry thinks about our approach in Afghanistan.

 

Comment by graywolf | 2009-06-25 17:39:16

Yeah, lets put our national security in the hands of the FBI.
The bumblers who missed 9/11 and want to give Miranda warnings to terrorists – just like the low life criminals that the feebs catch once in a while.
The military has more of a “mission” than their pension or the next free meal.

 

Comment by Covert Operator | 2009-06-25 18:25:33

For those of you dumb enough to give any credence to Larry Johnson or anything he writes about terrorism, let me direct you to the following site listed below and…remember, this guy, Johnson, never ran a covert Op in his life. He didn’t understand Islamic terrorism then (1990’s), and he certainly doesn’t understand it now. As for his unjustified, condescending attack against Gen’s Vallely and McInerney, clearly Johnson continue’s to show his ignorance. As someone who ran covert Ops for over two decades for the agency I can assure you that Gen’s were briefed on CT, CI and CNarcotics Ops when necessary. Oh well, Johnson must have forgotten that.

http://northshorejournal.org/larry-c-johnson-cia-wiz

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-06-25 22:18:41

Johnson also criticized the military and intelligence bureaucracies, saying they were “desperate to find an enemy to justify budget growth.”

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Covert Operator, if you have such depth explain why you say Mr. Johnson “never ran an op”, which is contrary to his bio?

He managed crisis response operations for terrorist incidents throughout the world and he helped organize and direct the US Government’s debriefing of US citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence on Iraqi operations following the 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

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One point you do not address is the “war footing” Mr. Johnson writes about. You can have all the “kenetics” you can stomach and all the un-intended consequences that come with it, but it is a questionable exerside if the intel sucks. No?

I thought I might inquire of you, if in your experience bad intel created obstacles for your mission objectives?

Or in un-classified terms how would you go about;

start fixing the lingering problems in mounting the full force and power of the United States against terrorists

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???

Comment by Ladydawnelle | 2009-06-25 22:55:56

Wow, I mean this is still a free country and that inspiration must be what keeps Larry allowing such slams against his character on his own personal blog site.

Nothing in the law, rules of the abyss or blogs says you must act like an AMERICAN and allow ALL free speech on your own blog. But it’s damn refreshing to see it there. Can’t wait for Larry’s response although TEAKS defense was nice.

I don’t spend enough time here to know all of the “characters” that blog here regularly and/or frequently so I may just be spitting in the wind.

And how is the troll situation these days? I mean it seems pretty mild. Are they hiding under their blankies cuz THE ONE has abandoned them in their Dreams of Nirvana? sniff sniff po po sheeple people

heeheehahahoho!

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-06-26 00:28:18

Evenin’ LadyD.

Not my intention to defend Mr. Johnson which would be above my pay grade on this topic.

Mr. Johnson’s points went over the head of this poster as said right of the bat that he was not dissin anyone but offered respectfully word response.

It strikes me as odd that a person who claims to have 20 under their belt running ops might add to the discourse instead of flapping his jaw.

It strikes me at times, that the universe of common sense applies to all disciplines.I will listen and learn.

 
 
 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-06-25 23:23:53

Well, gee, now that you’re here on Johnson’s site……lmao

 
 

Comment by tzada | 2009-06-25 18:58:15

It’s the creeping jihad happening quietly in the towns and cities and countrysides in the USA. They are making converts in prison. They are stifling free speech.

FREE SPEECH ATTACK: Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’

A flagrant, blatant violation of the first amendment. Freedom of speech in the age of jihad.
Maine Fines Group for ‘Inflammatory Anti-Muslim Message’ Patrick Poole

An organization in the national spotlight recently for producing a documentary identifying several dozen potential terrorist training compounds in the U.S. has offended the sensibilities of Maine bureaucrats, who have fined the organization $4,000, alleging among other things that the group sent out mailings containing an “inflammatory anti-Muslim message.”

The group in question, the Christian Action Network (CAN), received notice of the fines and the fundraising ban in a May 6 letter from Elaine Thibodeau of the State of Maine’s Department of Professional and Financial Regulation. Enclosed in the letter was a prepared consent agreement for CAN to sign agreeing to all of the state’s allegations, waiving all rights to appeal, and agreeing to pay the $4,000 fine. As part of the consent agreement, CAN is required to agree to all of the state’s allegations, including their assertion that their mailing amounted to hate speech.

“These bogus charges and fines the State of Maine has imposed are nothing but an attempt to stifle our free speech and silence our organization from speaking out about the steady creep of radical Islam in America,” CAN president Martin Mawyer told Pajamas Media. “We fully intend to appeal the state’s penalties because if they successfully silence us here, we will quickly find that we won’t be able to speak out anywhere.”

Jihadist Forum Thread Discusses If and When One May Eat the Flesh of U.S. Soldiers

A recent thread on the Al-Falluja jihadist forum discussed the case of whether a Muslim who has nothing else to eat may kill an infidel in order to eat him. The discussion was prompted by a recently published book by Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdisi, one of the most influential jihadist sheikhs active today.

The following is a summary of the discussion thread.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2102.htm

…and what of the California school that teaches Islam and the children dress as Muslims?

Comment by allimom99 | 2009-06-27 11:39:20

God forbid that Muslims should have their own schools, not like, say, Catholics? Does it not make sense that the children in this school are from devout families and would therefore observe customs of dress?

Even public schools have uniforms these days. Perhaps you should do a little more research before you assume that Muslim=terroris. Nobody that I ever saw equated Catholic to IRA when that group was terrorizing Britain and Ireland. Freedom of religion includes all of them, not just the ones that you understand.

 
 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-06-25 21:20:36

deter tacit and active support for violent extremist organizations where the government is either unwilling or unable to remove terrorist sanctuaries

Pakistan? How is a hellfire missle “indirect”?

Is it not violent?

Disrupting violent extremist organizations has had a powerful impact in Iraq, and we are seeing a dramatic reduction of al-Qaeda’s capability there.

True?

 

Comment by texaslatina | 2009-06-25 23:13:42

personally, in my opinion, our country’s gravest threat is the commander in chief himself! geez, who needs enemies?

Comment by Ladydawnelle | 2009-06-25 23:16:20

He and his cabal of punks & lemming fist bumpers

 
 

Comment by Hot librarian | 2009-06-26 04:08:44

The biggest & only true threat to the USA is its indebtedness.

Then civil unrest.

Then bad hair days.

Then Al Bore lectures.

 

Comment by elise | 2009-06-26 06:19:21

If I understand correctly, Admiral Olsen’s plan presupposes an actual war such as Iraq/Afghanistan or the introduction of Special Operations into another country with that country’s permission? If this is true, there are obvious problems in execution.

For some reason, as I read this post I thought of Dr. Strangelove and the major who decided it was time to nuke all the commies. He said they were stealing “our precious bodily fluids”. It’s so bizarre he would mention ten years of US efforts in Columbia and site one operation which was successful. Are we going to wait another ten years before we see more progress?

Saudi Arabia has been funding terrorist groups for years yet, to my knowledge, the US military has never been involved in an operation on the ground there. Bush/Cheney wanted to sell fighter jets to the Saudis, but the deal fell through. However I believe they purchased some from Britain.

After 9/11 our government had plenty of help from all over the world tracing the money used to finance terrorist groups. Germany, Spain, Britain and some ME countries used police methods to track, arrest and try terrorists. When our government invaded Iraq, we lost the support and respect in many parts of the world.

This bull-headed militaristic approach is getting us no where. I don’t know about the Philippines, but Indonesia seems to be doing a fair job of controlling the radicals in that country.

9/11 was bad, maybe worse than even Bin Laden dreamed it would be, but the aftermath was worse than it should have been because we followed the cowboy into an unnecessary war.

 

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