NQ Must Read for First Responders
By LisaB on June 25, 2009 at 10:20 AM in Current Affairs
Today’s round-up has a story about 9/11 victims’ families and a couple about the latest Obama presser. One columnist thinks Obama gets prickly when he’s defending a poor position. Another thinks Obama’s foreign policy is the real litmus test of his presidential power. What do you think?
1) The NYT published a story yesterday about Saudi links to extremist groups.
Documents gathered by lawyers for the families of Sept. 11 victims provide new evidence of extensive financial support for Al Qaeda and other extremist groups by members of the Saudi royal family, but the material may never find its way into court because of legal and diplomatic obstacles.
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The new documents, provided to The New York Times by the lawyers, are among several hundred thousand pages of investigative material obtained by the Sept. 11 families and their insurers as part of a long-running civil lawsuit seeking to hold Saudi Arabia and its royal family liable for financing Al Qaeda.
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The case has put the Obama administration in the middle of a political and legal dispute, with the Justice Department siding with the Saudis in court last month in seeking to kill further legal action. Adding to the intrigue, classified American intelligence documents related to Saudi finances were leaked anonymously to lawyers for the families. The Justice Department had the lawyers’ copies destroyed and now wants to prevent a judge from even looking at the material.
Supposedly contained in those records:
Internal Treasury Department documents obtained by the lawyers under the Freedom of Information Act, for instance, said that a prominent Saudi charity, the International Islamic Relief Organization, heavily supported by members of the Saudi royal family, showed “support for terrorist organizations” at least through 2006.
A self-described Qaeda operative in Bosnia said in an interview with lawyers in the lawsuit that another charity largely controlled by members of the royal family, the Saudi High Commission for Aid to Bosnia, provided money and supplies to the terrorist group in the 1990s and hired militant operatives like himself.
Another witness in Afghanistan said in a sworn statement that in 1998 he had witnessed an emissary for a leading Saudi prince, Turki al-Faisal, hand a check for one billion Saudi riyals (now worth about $267 million) to a top Taliban leader.
And a confidential German intelligence report gave a line-by-line description of tens of millions of dollars in bank transfers, with dates and dollar amounts, made in the early 1990s by Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz and other members of the Saudi royal family to another charity that was suspected of financing militants’ activities in Pakistan and Bosnia.
The suit brought by 9/11 families has an uphill slog, not the least because suing a country’s leaders is not likely to be successful due to a 1976 law on “sovereign immunity.” However, the families have also been disappointed in the Obama administration’s backtracking on a promise.
Kristen Breitweiser, an advocate for Sept. 11 families, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Center, said in an interview that during a White House meeting in February between President Obama and victims’ families, the president told her that he was willing to make the pages public.
But she said she had not heard from the White House since then.
The NYT says the documents do not contain a “smoking gun” linking Saudi rulers directly to terrorists. Maybe there wouldn’t be
2) Politicsdaily had a very interesting story yesterday about the Obama presser. The author has noticed a pattern in Obama’s mood: He get’s prickly when he’s trying to defend something not exactly right. I guess he “lashes out when he’s feeling” down?
Barack Obama, as everyone knows, is one of the most disciplined, controlled and unflappable political leaders in modern times. Except when he grows testy. And during Tuesday afternoon’s press conference, the president’s inability to mask mild annoyance was on full display.
Asked whether his rhetoric on Iran had changed in response to criticism from Senate Republicans such as John McCain, Obama at first deftly waved off the question with a joking, “What do you think?” Seconds later Obama channeled Lyndon Johnson’s belligerent “I’m the only president you’ve got” crack. (The milder Obama version: “Only I’m the president of the United States.”) Then Obama disingenuously claimed that “the Iranian people…aren’t paying a lot of attention to what’s being said on Capitol Hill and probably aren’t spending a lot of time thinking about what’s being said here.” (If that level of disinterest were indeed the case, then why did Obama go out of his way earlier in the press conference to solicit a question that had come in by e-mail from Iran?)
Then in response to the next question – about the potential consequences if Iran continued to suppress demonstrations – Obama said with a sharp edge in his voice, “We don’t know yet how this thing is going to play out. I know everybody here is on a 24-hour news cycle. I’m not. Okay?”
Shapiro goes on to say that presidents are, understandably, aggravated with questions from the press. After all, the press has a famously short-term attention span while a president has to consider more long term problems. So, it’s not as if being a tad cranky is unforgivable in the nation’s chief executive.
But still, he has an idea here.
Instead, I am bringing this up because I want to tentatively advance a larger theory about the president’s public moods. Obama tends to drop his cool veneer and sound exasperated when he knows that he is in the wrong.
Shapiro goes on to say Obama’s exasperation showed through not on a large policy question, but on a personal one.
But it was on a far smaller matter (and not one that often comes up during his morning national security briefings) that Obama really put his ire on the fire. What set the president off was a question trying to link Obama’s own smoking history with new legislation giving the FDA the power to regulate nicotine. In response, Obama claimed that the reporter just thought that it was “neat to ask me about my smoking, as opposed to it being relevant to my new law. But that’s fine. I understand. It’s a interesting human — it’s a interesting human-interest story.” (Words alone cannot convey Obama’s mocking tone and his obvious disdain for this “human-interest story.”)
And Shapiro’s aside about Obama’s tone? Been there, seen that. Obama’s mocking tone and dripping sarcasm was evident from time to time on the campaign trail. But everyone pretended not to notice or question when he got testy. After all, he’s the coolest, right?
3) WaPo also published a bit by Dana Milbank today about the Obama presser yesterday. Milbank objected to what he saw as the “prepackaged” nature of the press conference and called the presser and subsequent news media appearances “The Obama Show.” Heh.
In his first daytime news conference yesterday, President Obama preempted “All My Children,” “Days of Our Lives” and “The Young and the Restless.” But the soap viewers shouldn’t have been disappointed: The president had arranged some prepackaged entertainment for them.
Milbank referred to the planted question from the HuffyPot, ostensibly from a real Iranian - in Iran.
Pitney [HuffyPot writer] asked his arranged question. Reporters looked at one another in amazement at the stagecraft they were witnessing. White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel grinned at the surprised TV correspondents in the first row.
The use of planted questioners is a no-no at presidential news conferences, because it sends a message to the world — Iran included — that the American press isn’t as free as advertised. But yesterday wasn’t so much a news conference as it was a taping of a new daytime drama, “The Obama Show.” Missed yesterday’s show? Don’t worry: On Wednesday, ABC News will be broadcasting “Good Morning America” from the South Lawn (guest stars: the president and first lady), “World News Tonight” from the Blue Room, and a prime-time feature with Obama from the East Room.
Milbank goes on to say Obama operated like a celebrity rather than a president and he highlighted how Obama deflected questions and got testy with the press.
As if to compensate for the prepackaged Huffington Post question, Obama went quickly to Fox News for a predictably hostile question from Major Garrett. “In your opening remarks, sir, you said about Iran that you were appalled and outraged,” Garrett said. “What took you so long?
“I don’t think that’s accurate,” Obama volleyed testily, calling his toughening statements on Iran “entirely consistent.”
The host of “The Obama Show” dispatched with similar ease a challenge from CBS’s Chip Reid, asking whether his hardening line on Iran was inspired by John McCain. “What do you think?” Obama replied with a big grin. That brought the house down. And the studio audience laughed again when ABC’s Jake Tapper tried to get Obama to answer another reporter’s question that he had dodged. “Are you the ombudsman for the White House press corps?” the president cracked.
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. . . Later, Obama passed over the usual suspects to call on Macarena Vidal of the Spanish-language EFE news agency. The White House called Vidal in advance to see whether she was coming and arranged for her to sit in a seat usually assigned to a financial trade publication. She asked about Chile and Colombia.A couple of more questions and Obama called it a day. “Mr. President!” yelled Mike Allen of Politico. “May I ask about Afghanistan? No questions about Iraq or Afghanistan?”
Sorry: Those weren’t prearranged.
We all probably remember the outrage about prearranged questions during the Bush administration. If not, here’s an example.
Hey, in the long list of why Obama is better than Bush, we can now strike “plants questions/questioners in WH press conferences.”
4) Dick Morris, at Realclearpolitics, has another article calling Obama a weak president. Not a new idea and not terribly interesting, Morris is, IMHO, not a trusted source either. However, he offers a consideration that is worth thinking about.
If only President Obama were a third as tough on Iran and North Korea as he is on Republicans, he’d be making progress in containing the dire threats to our national security these rogue nations represent. As it is, the president is letting the perception of weakness cloud his image. Once that particular miasma enshrouds a presidency, it is hard to dissipate.
If foreign policy issues actually involve war and the commitment of troops, they can be politically potent. But otherwise, the impact of international affairs on presidential image is largely metaphoric. Since foreign policy is the only area in which the president can govern virtually alone, it provides a window on his personality and use of power that domestic policy cannot.
The second paragraph is the meat here. Foreign policy is headed up by the administration while domestic policy has a limitless number of players. So, it is likely US foreign policy will be the least diluted Obama policies out there. If so, it seems he bases his foreign policy on exporting his cult of personality. Good luck with that.
So here’s the thing. Obama is stronger domestically with the government behind him and the collective will of Kool-aid drinkers and others just hoping things will get better. Internationally, he can only really depend on US money (in shorter supply than ever), power (ditto), goodwill established over time (could be improving) and his SoS. His travels and speeches abroad suggest Obama is trying to establish the same adoration overseas he enjoys here. But it looks as if the Obama cult is a harder sell where people have long been used to watching the US from the outside. Personally, I think that while other peoples are excited about what Obama might do, they are, by habit, paying very close attention to what the US President actually does. That’s the reverse of what our domestic media does, BTW.
So, what we have, basically, is a president overly dependent on himself as a personality, who desperately needs a teleprompter, doesn’t like questions about himself personally and is quite content to use the policy templates left for him by his predecessor.
The more things change. . .









































Like an overfilled balloon, it will only take one small prick for Obama to explode. Any ideas on who that prick might be?
Yeh, obama!!
What a lovely, funny thought.
Interesting to note that Obama may be losing his composure when pressed to answer legitimate questions instead of softball like lobs.
It would be about frickin’ time they ask real questions, but I’m sure once someone does, Rahmboy send them a dead fish or something so they don’t do it again too soon.
LisaB,
Thanks for a very interesting post. I just don’t get this “cult of personality” thing in regard to Obama. I see nothing about his personality to like. He has always seemed to me to be arrogant, self-centured and inappropriately flippant. But then I once visited an astrologer because I thought it would be interesting. They guy was amazing. One thing he said he saw in my chart was that I had no tendency for addiction. I guess Kool-Aid just has no appeal for me. I don’t see the people of the rest of the world as being too prone to addiction either.
For all he thinks he accomplished with his planted questions, I’m guessing he received twice the amount of negative reaction.
I asked about his answer to the Iranian emailer passed on by Pitney last night on Larry’s post. O’s answer just seemed like a non-answer and an insult to the Iranian who emailed. It could be taken different ways with the context of the question, and we’re all left with WTF moments trying to figure out what he means.
I’ll close with a comment I know many who come to this site will make: Hillary’s pressers would have been exciting, informative, and awe-inspiring. If only…..
i remember readin in the texas monthly a few years ago, how bush had allowed on 9/11 for the all the bin laden family members to leave the country on a private plane when no other planes were allowed to fly. they were in lexington,ky dealin w/racin or arabian horses and they were allowed to leave out of bluegrass apo. that never passed the smell test in my opinion. left alot of questions in my mind more than answers. no tellin what’s goin on.
Yep, the USA/Saudi connection is all about oil, I bet. I think America should buckle down, live within our means, make Congress rescind that Chicago style dirty politics pay to play scheme called the stiumulus bill, get back to basics and walk ourselves through this time with common sense, thrift and the Bill of Rights.
Tough times, tough people. We can do it.
So what was the “planted” question?
I was listening the presser on the radio and Helen was asking questions that BO deflected with voice of contempt. BO thinks this is where gallows humor can “get him through the day”.
Great read LisaB, I do wish the families of 9/11 get some justice. I can not fathom why the DOJ will side with a foreign government over this countries citizens.
To me that was an act of war by the Saud’s. If BO is so full of hope and change why is oil thicker than blood?
Well, of course they swore the HuffPo didn’t tell him the question in advance. It was something to the effect of asking O if he was going to recognize Ahmadinejad, given the situation in Iran with a contested election. O answered by saying something like it was up to the Iranian people who he would recognize. To me, it could mean rhat he would believe the announced results. Or, it could be taken as a challenge to the questioner and the demonstrators to make sure who would be declared the winner. In any case, O avoided answering anything about what would be a valid way to verify results of the election. I didn’t understand why he would go to the trouble of arranging this farce with HuffPo only to give such a vapid, meaningless answer. What was he hoping to gain?
But then, if I could understand O, I would probably check myself in for psychiatric counseling.
No surprise Obama defends the Saudis.
Big surprise is that the NYT doesn’t suggest a 9/11 conspiracy, the one involving the US-Israelis, of course.
Wasn’t it one of the Saudi princes who paid for B0’s entire Harvard education?
I think the connections that the Bush family and B0 have to the Saudi’s are very interesting. I just keep wondering who really runs our country these days. It’s not “We the People,” that’s for sure.
Absolutely no chance of sueing the Saudi Hierarchy.
You cannot sue even a Saudi business entity without the permission of the Saudi government, and that is not going to happen either, if the Saudi company is connected at all. And..they are basically all connected to some degree.
Sueing any Saudi Arabian entity, by an outside entity, even a very large, well established, normally powerful American Corp. is impotent when it come to such. Been there, done that, re and through a German subsidiary of said corp..
Nothing! Eat your losses and forget about it! Saudi’s do not give a damn, and are omnipotent.
If any commenter has ever heard of a successful “outside” lawsuit against any Saudi entity
please respond. I would love to hear of the circumstances. As is probably quite obvious here, I remain very bitter!
OT, but I just heard that Gov. Palin made a trip to visit troops from Alaska stationed overseas, on the quiet.
Does anyone know if Michelle, Czar of the American Basij, has ever visited Ground Zero, privately or otherwise?
She wouldn’t even go there when B0 and McCain and Mrs. McCain toured there together.
Still looking for evidence that she/he actually love this country…..
It is absolutely unfair attacking Pr.Obama for beying to conftabkle with Saudis, just look at the history of “friendship” with Saudis way before II World War. Every President is treating Saudis just as;. Most of those who are watching what OUR Government is truly doing on International scene , knows, that USA Presidents are all nice and friendly with Saudis as ; CarNixoan,Carter,Reagan,Bush Sr. Clinton, Bush Jr., so stop blaming Pr.Obama, fallow at list 60 years old friendship between USA and Saudis!!!
So it’s o.k. to mislead an American citizen, the widow of a 9/11 victim in order to carry on this despicable “tradition”? I know all the reasons we remain friendly with the Sauds, but at some point, we all need to suck up and stand up for moral principle: just make the documents public, even if a law suit is not going to happen.
But wasn’t BO supposed to change all that?
Good point trixta. Obama was supposed to be different from all his predecessors. He was going to bring all this kind of thing to a halt through transparency, hope, and “change”.
So Obama’s not going to “change” our relationship with the Saudis no matter how they behave?
Now that’s “change” you can believe in - NOT.
How do you think the MSM liked being told what Obama will and will not answer? Do you think they appreciated the snub by Rahm when they realized there was a plant in the audience? Obama has always used plants, whether it be in the actual audience or online.
Pick and choose the best and easiest questions, study them, and give a pre-practiced answer.
Obama is nothing without a script, and someone to pull his strings.
It’s all going to come back to bite him in the butt. The MSM will start acting like jilted lovers at these phony pressers.
Obama and a plant: maybe they’ll fall back on the Fainting Lady trick from the campaign?
I doubt the MSM will ever turn on Obama. They need to be loved by his minions too. They also think that if they question him too much, they’ll be accused of racism and they will.
You have to wonder what its going to take. We’ve seen absolutely no help anywhere for the millions who have lost their jobs and have or are about to lose their homes. The Obama administration still has Bush to blame you know. The Koolaid drinkers still blame Clinton.
But, I finally got to read a critical editorial about O in my morning paper in regard to his use of plantd questions at the presser.
1. This information about the Saudis is hardly new. It is common knowledge that the Saudis use their petrodollars to spread Wahhabism around the world, either via madrassahs and other means. I wonder whether the same people who are so quick to jump on Israel and the evils of
the evil Jewish lobbyAIPAC are aware of or interested in the vast reach of the Saudi lobby. The House of Saud’s Washington Ambassador Prince Bandar (a.k.a. “Bandar Bush”) did a bang up job of whitewashing the 9/11 report to downplay the Saudi role in the attack.More on the Saudi lobby:
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/04/jrm-pubnote-20070417
The Saudi post-9/11 PR blitz:
2. The Nico Pitney story is beyond ridiculous and those of you who are getting your knickers in a twist need to have a glass of water or something. Here is Nico’s question:
Obama answered:
The rule of question planting is that you make the query an obvious softball (see Gannon, Jeff) that the President or whomever can hit out of the park. The last thing those who choose the ringer want is for their boss to dodge a question, which is what Obama did.
Dana Milbank is dead wrong and should direct his umbrage at his colleagues in the DC press corps, which of course will never happen.
dcmediagirl makes some interesting points about the saudi influence.
i for one want to see the media held accountable for their lack of integrity. and it follows the politicans as well. it does my heart good to see obama’s numbers continue to fall no matter how the suckup media tries to play it.
and abc? uggg! i didn’t watch the anyway!
I for one want to see Obama held resposible for all the bloodshed going on in Iran. Get gets people all jacked up for hopeychangey in his Cairo speech and then choaks when the moderates in Iran actually believe the Koolaid. I consider what Obama did in Cairo worse than Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs. You can’t make people believe in change and then stand on the sidelines while they are slaughtered. Obama has blood on his hands.
“Barack Obama, as everyone knows, is one of the most disciplined, controlled and unflappable political leaders in modern times.”
This is just as big a myth as his mythological oratorical skills. Any man who lashes out the way he does on a regular basis; who plays “99 problems…” during the primary, or “Addicted to Love” following President Clinton’s convention speech; or who goes on a European rock tour while just a candidate; or who flips the bird on the sly; or who relies so heavily on sexism, racism, and ageism to get his way, has none of those qualities. He is actually immature, vindictive, and easily knocked off kilter.
Oh, I take it back, he is controlled–we just don’t know by whom, yet.
One would think he’s a master of inscrutability, a paragon of poker faces, listening to this myth of his supposed unflappability and coolness repeated ad nauseam. In addition to what you pointed out, his face betrays his glass jaw time and time again. For instance, I’ll never forget his petulant expression when Hillary won New Hampshire. His voice is easy to read too — he tends to sound whiney and exasperated when cornered. The guy just cannot conceal when his ego is wounded.
This whole Saudi thing makes me sick. I remember right after 9/11 the NYTimes, as one example, had SEVERAL pages of ads placed by Saudi Arabia on more than one occasion, obviously for image/damage-control purposes. That alone had to cost a tidy chunk of change.
I agree with Texas Playwright that it all boils down to oil, for which we have a huge appetite. Granted, Saudi Arabia isn’t our only supplier but they’re a major player. Look at your local papers and see who the big advertizers are — auto dealerships as well as home sellers (often in suburban or even exurban locations which can’t exist without auto-dependency). Pay attention to how many car commercials you see on TV or hear on the radio. These advertizers are major sources of revenue for the media, who aren’t inclined to bite the hand that feeds them. And that hand depends on oil.
Obama administration seeks to quash suit by 9/11 families (June 26, 2009)
http://tinyurl.com/n6dzmk