Many technological developments will give you, the customer, real advantages – using less film, using less energy and running faster production speeds reliably…

The idea is that if governments cap CO2 emissions, then the “market” will take off for the buying and selling of emissions “allowances.” This is the whole point of the “cap-and-trade” plan for CO2. If it sounds crazy, it is. But Gore is just one of the most visible parts of the elaborate (and bi-partisan) schemes that have been set in motion under cover of climate change. Gore’s personal financial involvement is blatant, especially through Goldman Sachs—a large shareholder of CCX, and in 2004, the creator of Gore’s very own London-based hedge fund, Generation Investment Management.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2007/3413carbon_swindle.html

John A. Eddy, a solar astronomer famed for his studies of irregular variations in solar activity and their connections with Earth’s climate, died on June 10, 2009.

http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/csw/details/remembering-jack-eddy/

It has become a common theme for the Obama syndicate, claim that there is a rapidly approaching crisis (global warming, healthcare collapse, bank and market failure) and scream that there is no time to waste, immediate action is our only salvation. A congress that is in strict lockstep (or goose step as it were) with Obama, has no need for prudence. Thet all need to be tossed out on their pathetic asses.

The nonsense of man-made global warming is one of the greatest frauds ever concocted.

And now we are seeing the real reason, it’s the carbon market. What if somebody could reinvent the stock market and own a big share of it for doing so… it is happening with the Chicago Climate Exchange. This is the story behind the story. This is how a nobody community organizer can be made President of the United States. This is how the king makers work in real life. And we thought we were free… free like cattle roaming an open range maybe… free until the big boys get hungry maybe… that kind of free.

That’s the trouble with this gang. Everything is a big rush, veiled in secrecy. No one had time to read this bill just as no one had time to read the Stimulus. The more they rush, the more you know they’ve something to hide.

Had the prices remained high enough, operations in our vast reserves of oil shale would have cranked back up. The known reserves in our oil shale would last 200 years at current usage, and we would only be paying about the same for a gallon of gas that the Europeans currently pay because of their high taxes. This country is fabulously rich in fossil fuels, there’s no danger of running out in the near future. As long as we can sit on those reserves while getting relatively cheap foreign oil, why not keep picking that low hanging fruit? Use theirs up while it’s cheap! Geologists know this, and most good ones also know that man made global warming is a cruel and expensive joke.

The use of coal and oil as our primary energy source is driven by a very fundamental principle, it’s the cheapest form of energy we have, by far. Solar, wind and most other pie in the sky sources have yet to break the cost-benefit barrier. The rewards for developing an inexpensive, renewable, alternative to fossil fuels would be enormous, and there are thousands of enterprises working feverishly on the problem in persuit of those rewards. A government sponsored “Manhatten project” is not necessary, and would probably be riddled with waste and corruption like most other government projects anyway. The mechanics of capitalism have almost always been the best force at finding answers and solutions to our problems. Cap and trade will only serve to entrench the status quo, and spread the misery.

What is supposed to happen during the transitional phase, we all go bankrupt?

The middle class is targeted for extinction. In a nanny state, it is easier to manage the children when we all are wearing the same brand of diaper and all eating the same food at the same time. Middle class people that don’t have to go along won’t, so the middle class is being relieved of it’s assets. The poor are cheering because they hate the middle class. The rich are cheering because they are getting a lot of the middle class assets. The middle class think this is just a recession. It is not.

As my tin-hat starts to glow from mysterious radiations, I start to wonder how profitable it is for big oil to keep the world convinced that oil is in short supply and being depleted quickly . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Kudryavtsev

I know this isn’t conventional thinking, but if the origins of petroleum are biogenic, then explain methane gas on Titan as an example. Or oil fields once believed depleted that now have oil again. If the petroleum is abiogenic then it’s coming up whether we drill it or not. The question is then do we get anything in return for it or not. If it’s abiogenic, we might as well use all of it we can, because it is renewable. I have the feeling if we drilled deep enough, we could tap into huge reservoirs of natural gas we don’t even know about yet. Plus we could inject water into these deep areas and the heat and pressure would produce natural gas. It seem much easier to me than the talk of mining the moon for H3. That is what the recent moon shot is about. They aren’t looking for water in the moon dust. They want a sample to see how much H3 is in the dust. This is also why China is frantically trying to “me too” on the moon. They want to make a claim if we figure out how to mine it. Putting technology into deep drilling seems more plausible to me.

You and Doc are both correct about the release of methane and other naturally occurring elements.
Most of the events unexplained in the Bermuda triangle can be traced to huge methane explosions swallowing up whatever was in the way that day.

The global warming we are actually enjoying today can be traced to the thawing of the permafrost after the last Ice age and not do to Man’s influence.

Where I sit right now blogging here in Seattle a mile thick glacier used to grind overhead as little as 10000 years ago.

Sure glad it warmed up!

So, the possibility that hydrocarbons are abiogenic is very real.

Doc, I think this is an incredibly interesting possibility, and nobody should dismiss it out-of-hand. Where’s Ferd? I’d like to hear what he thinks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_oil

“It’s not always easy to accept the reality of what we now routinely allow these people to get away with; there’s a kind of collective denial that kicks in when a country goes through what America has gone through lately, when a people lose as much prestige and status as we have in the past few years. You can’t really register the fact that you’re no longer a citizen of a thriving first-world democracy, that you’re no longer above getting robbed in broad daylight, because like an amputee, you can still sort of feel things that are no longer there.

But this is it. This is the world we live in now. And in this world, some of us have to play by the rules, while others get a note from the principal excusing them from homework till the end of time, plus 10 billion free dollars in a paper bag to buy lunch. It’s a gangster state, running on gangster economics, and even prices can’t be trusted anymore; there are hidden taxes in every buck you pay. And maybe we can’t stop it, but we should at least know where it’s all going.

The bubbles don’t come ’til the end of the program… Turn off the bubbles… Turn off the bubble machine!”

If that doesn’t make your hair stand up, I don’t know what will. We are so-o-o screwed! And we’ve been so had.

But yes, turn off the damn bubble machine. And reveal the gangsters for who and what they are, Bernie Madoff clones. They should all rot in Hell.

Legislation to let polluters buy and sell carbon-dioxide emissions like pork bellies is the outgrowth of Richard L. Sandor, founder of the Chicago-based network of people trading pollution permits from Beijing to Brussels known as Climate Exchange. It doesn’t hurt that the six-year-old market got $1.1 million of seed money from the city’s Joyce Foundation, whose board included a little-known state senator named Barack Obama. Now the 44th president is determined to enact America’s first limits on greenhouse gases.

This comes from here:

http://climateerinvest.blogspot.com/2009/06/richard-sandor-barack-obama-and.html

I think there is some real meat in this story and it is darn fortuitous that this came out of Chicago and has Obama all over it… and that it was born before Obama made his “historic” bid for the White House. I think this may be why he really is “the one”. This could turn out to be the biggest scheme of all time.