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	<title>Comments on: After a Coup d&#8217;Etat at NOW, the Future of &#8220;Feminism&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Adopted</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/01/after-a-coup-detat-at-now-the-future-of-feminism/#comment-1231891</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating discussion here. Thank you so much Amy. I feel like calling all of you &quot;my sisters.&quot;

I&#039;m a pro-life, pro-contraception Feminist, which as I understand it is the same as Gov. Palin&#039;s position. You might want to check out Feminists for Life, if you haven&#039;t already. I am a member there, and I like what we&#039;re working on: supporting the life choice, not dictating it.

I so love the sentiment here on this post that we can unite on so many women&#039;s issues without being needlessly divided. I&#039;m glad to see the changes in NOW&#039;s approach. Yes, CHOICE is a HUGE issue. 

But our common womanhood surpasses even that.

I know most of you support abortion rights. Where I agree with you is that we shouldn&#039;t have government interferring with our bodies. We are sovreign over our own bodies! I guess that&#039;s the libertarian in me. But I think we can also find common ground when babies are viable outside the womb, recognizing the tragedy of late-term abortion that is not to save the mother&#039;s life or health.

I am a child of rape. My birth mother became pregnant when she was gang raped. Despite the abortion availability, she decided to have me anyway, and gave me up for adoption. So, my life is blessed (indeed I am here) because a woman made a CHOICE, and she CHOSE LIFE.

Providing support and encouragement for scared young women to CHOOSE LIFE or making that choice in your own life does not infringe on others&#039; rights. That&#039;s where we women can UNITE. 

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating discussion here. Thank you so much Amy. I feel like calling all of you &#8220;my sisters.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a pro-life, pro-contraception Feminist, which as I understand it is the same as Gov. Palin&#8217;s position. You might want to check out Feminists for Life, if you haven&#8217;t already. I am a member there, and I like what we&#8217;re working on: supporting the life choice, not dictating it.</p>
<p>I so love the sentiment here on this post that we can unite on so many women&#8217;s issues without being needlessly divided. I&#8217;m glad to see the changes in NOW&#8217;s approach. Yes, CHOICE is a HUGE issue. </p>
<p>But our common womanhood surpasses even that.</p>
<p>I know most of you support abortion rights. Where I agree with you is that we shouldn&#8217;t have government interferring with our bodies. We are sovreign over our own bodies! I guess that&#8217;s the libertarian in me. But I think we can also find common ground when babies are viable outside the womb, recognizing the tragedy of late-term abortion that is not to save the mother&#8217;s life or health.</p>
<p>I am a child of rape. My birth mother became pregnant when she was gang raped. Despite the abortion availability, she decided to have me anyway, and gave me up for adoption. So, my life is blessed (indeed I am here) because a woman made a CHOICE, and she CHOSE LIFE.</p>
<p>Providing support and encouragement for scared young women to CHOOSE LIFE or making that choice in your own life does not infringe on others&#8217; rights. That&#8217;s where we women can UNITE. </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: kat in your hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat in your hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, good post.  And I have not read Simone de Beauvior&#039;s &quot;The Second Sex&quot;--so, thank you.  I took philosophy, women&#039;s studies and woman writers classes and there was no mention.  Just like you said.  I&#039;ll check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, good post.  And I have not read Simone de Beauvior&#8217;s &#8220;The Second Sex&#8221;&#8211;so, thank you.  I took philosophy, women&#8217;s studies and woman writers classes and there was no mention.  Just like you said.  I&#8217;ll check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: kat in your hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>kat in your hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya!  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are beautiful and profound observations, ThinkAgain. They are thoughts I have tried to articulate for so long and have failed to do in a non-aggressive way. 

I also agree with Kat in her suggestions on involving younger women in the struggle by whatever means possible. How can we instill pride and self-respect in the under 40 women in the country? 

Any significant change has to cross generational barriers. I hate to give up on NOW, but the membership has gotten older and lost it&#039;s passion for the cause. I would disagree with anyone who says that organization began as a one issue monolith. It began with energy and dedication to equality, but not too many years after the right to choice was established by the Supreme Court, it was under siege and still is today. Whether the threat is real or concocted by politicians as a wedge issue isn&#039;t important since it has managed to divert attention from other goals.

The writing of Simone de Beauvior is completely ignored in Women&#039;s Studies at most universities and yet her book, The Second Sex, illustrates the reality of a woman&#039;s need to be essential while living in a society which considers her non-essential. She points out the ambiguity of being truly feminine as a stigma for professional women. To be willing to accept a lower social position denies us entry into the human race.

It is an unresolved paradox for many women. So which part of ourselves are we required to relinquish in order to be successful in a quest for equality? I would like to believe we will not give up either. Creative in many ways in the home and raising families, if we venture outside the home for fulfillment, we face obstacles which require us to give up part of our nature in order to achieve success.

I disagree with those who believe personal fulfillment is possible without a united effort to change the perceptions. That is why throughout history, human beings have banded together in a common cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are beautiful and profound observations, ThinkAgain. They are thoughts I have tried to articulate for so long and have failed to do in a non-aggressive way. </p>
<p>I also agree with Kat in her suggestions on involving younger women in the struggle by whatever means possible. How can we instill pride and self-respect in the under 40 women in the country? </p>
<p>Any significant change has to cross generational barriers. I hate to give up on NOW, but the membership has gotten older and lost it&#8217;s passion for the cause. I would disagree with anyone who says that organization began as a one issue monolith. It began with energy and dedication to equality, but not too many years after the right to choice was established by the Supreme Court, it was under siege and still is today. Whether the threat is real or concocted by politicians as a wedge issue isn&#8217;t important since it has managed to divert attention from other goals.</p>
<p>The writing of Simone de Beauvior is completely ignored in Women&#8217;s Studies at most universities and yet her book, The Second Sex, illustrates the reality of a woman&#8217;s need to be essential while living in a society which considers her non-essential. She points out the ambiguity of being truly feminine as a stigma for professional women. To be willing to accept a lower social position denies us entry into the human race.</p>
<p>It is an unresolved paradox for many women. So which part of ourselves are we required to relinquish in order to be successful in a quest for equality? I would like to believe we will not give up either. Creative in many ways in the home and raising families, if we venture outside the home for fulfillment, we face obstacles which require us to give up part of our nature in order to achieve success.</p>
<p>I disagree with those who believe personal fulfillment is possible without a united effort to change the perceptions. That is why throughout history, human beings have banded together in a common cause.</p>
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		<title>By: NewOrleansPuma</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BuzzisbackLatte: As we say down here..Yeah ya rite...BuzzibackLatte ( love that name too!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BuzzisbackLatte: As we say down here..Yeah ya rite&#8230;BuzzibackLatte ( love that name too!)</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re barking up the wrong tree if you think NOW is going to change that drastically.  We need to leave NOW behind and organize women to support equal pay for equal work, recruit women to run for elective office, work for laws to stop violence against women, and pounce collectively on anyone - male or female - who is sexist or shows disrespect toward any woman.   We must insist that women be judged on their views and policies, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re barking up the wrong tree if you think NOW is going to change that drastically.  We need to leave NOW behind and organize women to support equal pay for equal work, recruit women to run for elective office, work for laws to stop violence against women, and pounce collectively on anyone &#8211; male or female &#8211; who is sexist or shows disrespect toward any woman.   We must insist that women be judged on their views and policies, period.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzisbackLatte</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Group think must go...&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;YEEEESSSSS!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;

It was the herd mentality that got us Obama and the ultimate herd existence -  socialism.  While like minds may agree and gravitate towards each other, the Tea Parties have already proven that a driving structure is not necessarily a must to express and come together.

We simply don&#039;t need mommy organizations telling us what to think, what to be mad about, or where to spread our too often hard earned dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Group think must go&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>YEEEESSSSS!!!!</strong></p>
<p>It was the herd mentality that got us Obama and the ultimate herd existence &#8211;  socialism.  While like minds may agree and gravitate towards each other, the Tea Parties have already proven that a driving structure is not necessarily a must to express and come together.</p>
<p>We simply don&#8217;t need mommy organizations telling us what to think, what to be mad about, or where to spread our too often hard earned dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzisbackLatte</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzisbackLatte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  Some women will feel that they benefit from membership or the feeling of belonging, but until a woman understands that she has to stand on her feet, be smart, be bold, and be her own best advocate, the chances of women changing the status quo is small.

That&#039;s why the likes of Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, Helen Thomas, Carly Fiorina, Madeline Albright, and others scare the holy peewaddin&#039; out of the male structure.

Power from within is an unstoppable force for a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.  Some women will feel that they benefit from membership or the feeling of belonging, but until a woman understands that she has to stand on her feet, be smart, be bold, and be her own best advocate, the chances of women changing the status quo is small.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the likes of Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, Helen Thomas, Carly Fiorina, Madeline Albright, and others scare the holy peewaddin&#8217; out of the male structure.</p>
<p>Power from within is an unstoppable force for a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, Mandelay.  Sounds like the NOW organization tried to implement the Obama fraud tactics into their own election process.  I would have no interest in that group unless the group that lost quits the organization.  I doubt that will happen.  They will simply wait until next year and make sure their fraud works then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, Mandelay.  Sounds like the NOW organization tried to implement the Obama fraud tactics into their own election process.  I would have no interest in that group unless the group that lost quits the organization.  I doubt that will happen.  They will simply wait until next year and make sure their fraud works then.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And WHY we are still talking about abortion is beyond me.  It is now part of the constitution.  It is the law.  It will NOT be taken away.  We need to move on.  That fight is OVER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And WHY we are still talking about abortion is beyond me.  It is now part of the constitution.  It is the law.  It will NOT be taken away.  We need to move on.  That fight is OVER.</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
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		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;This is incorrect.&lt;/strong&gt;  NOW endorsed Clinton on March 28, 2007.  They did not endorse BHO until September 16, 2008, well after the end of the primaries.  Also during the general election, NOW’s website had a Hall of Shame where one could vote against media figures, an article criticizing the media misogyny directed against Clinton, and another one criticizing the media misogyny directed at Palin.  I don&#039;t know whether any of it&#039;s still there (I&#039;m neither a member or a supporter of NOW because it wastes its time on nonfeminist issues) but it was there September 6 2008.
http://www.now.org/press/03-07/03-28.html
http://www.now.org/press/09-08/09-16.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>This is incorrect.</strong>  NOW endorsed Clinton on March 28, 2007.  They did not endorse BHO until September 16, 2008, well after the end of the primaries.  Also during the general election, NOW’s website had a Hall of Shame where one could vote against media figures, an article criticizing the media misogyny directed against Clinton, and another one criticizing the media misogyny directed at Palin.  I don&#8217;t know whether any of it&#8217;s still there (I&#8217;m neither a member or a supporter of NOW because it wastes its time on nonfeminist issues) but it was there September 6 2008.<br />
<a href="http://www.now.org/press/03-07/03-28.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.now.org/press/03-07/03-28.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.now.org/press/09-08/09-16.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.now.org/press/09-08/09-16.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the Vanity Fair author of both the Bill Clinton and Sarah Palin smears is married to Dee Dee Myers.  In addition, DD was a busy pundit during both the primary and ge.  She was very careful to speak in luke-warm terms about Hillary even though she was hawking her new book, &quot;Why Women Should Rule the World&quot;.  

Never mind she is somebody because of Bill Clinton.  &quot;Women Rule....&quot; - what a joke.  She was obviously for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Vanity Fair author of both the Bill Clinton and Sarah Palin smears is married to Dee Dee Myers.  In addition, DD was a busy pundit during both the primary and ge.  She was very careful to speak in luke-warm terms about Hillary even though she was hawking her new book, &#8220;Why Women Should Rule the World&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Never mind she is somebody because of Bill Clinton.  &#8220;Women Rule&#8230;.&#8221; &#8211; what a joke.  She was obviously for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOW NOT only did not stand up for Sarah Palin (and never will), they did not stand up for Hillary either.  They endorsed Obama over Hillary and so did NARAL.  So much for supporting women as well as the Democratic Party connection.  

I am very interested to hear about NOW&#039;s new leadership and &#039;turning the page&#039;.  I trust Lynette Long and am very eager to hear what she thinks about it.  I was very involved with women&#039;s rights, but never through NOW.  I have such negative feelings about that organization that it would be nearly impossible for me to ever accept NOW much less be a member.  They were always very divisive and believe me, left to NOW, we will continue going backwards instead of forward.  NOW will never be able to accept pro-life women or women who believe (like Obama &amp; Hillary) that marriage should be between a man and a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW NOT only did not stand up for Sarah Palin (and never will), they did not stand up for Hillary either.  They endorsed Obama over Hillary and so did NARAL.  So much for supporting women as well as the Democratic Party connection.  </p>
<p>I am very interested to hear about NOW&#8217;s new leadership and &#8216;turning the page&#8217;.  I trust Lynette Long and am very eager to hear what she thinks about it.  I was very involved with women&#8217;s rights, but never through NOW.  I have such negative feelings about that organization that it would be nearly impossible for me to ever accept NOW much less be a member.  They were always very divisive and believe me, left to NOW, we will continue going backwards instead of forward.  NOW will never be able to accept pro-life women or women who believe (like Obama &amp; Hillary) that marriage should be between a man and a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JRD, you are exactly right!  Women who are democrats have got to work with women who are republicans, who are liberal or conservative.  I&#039;ve been saying that for a year now.  United we can win this battle.  Divided we will most assuredly fail.  We cannot allow divisive issues to take over the cause as we have done in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JRD, you are exactly right!  Women who are democrats have got to work with women who are republicans, who are liberal or conservative.  I&#8217;ve been saying that for a year now.  United we can win this battle.  Divided we will most assuredly fail.  We cannot allow divisive issues to take over the cause as we have done in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: NewOrleansPuma</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Again: Thank you very much..Think Again..
a name by the way I really like!

May you and I and each of us continue to think again and to think for ourselves as we all continue to pay attention and to act in the face of the incessant dissembling of this Republic by Fraud Obama...his cronies...and his followers. 

Group think must go...and I look forward here and in other places to see your thoughts and to share ideas with you and anyone else who has the courage and determination to pay attention
during these very serious and dangerous times in the history of our Republic!

Keep Thinking...Think Again...your thoughts
are most worthy of contemplation! Thank you for them!  Forward!!  Onward!!  Persist!
Never Give up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Again: Thank you very much..Think Again..<br />
a name by the way I really like!</p>
<p>May you and I and each of us continue to think again and to think for ourselves as we all continue to pay attention and to act in the face of the incessant dissembling of this Republic by Fraud Obama&#8230;his cronies&#8230;and his followers. </p>
<p>Group think must go&#8230;and I look forward here and in other places to see your thoughts and to share ideas with you and anyone else who has the courage and determination to pay attention<br />
during these very serious and dangerous times in the history of our Republic!</p>
<p>Keep Thinking&#8230;Think Again&#8230;your thoughts<br />
are most worthy of contemplation! Thank you for them!  Forward!!  Onward!!  Persist!<br />
Never Give up!</p>
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