“Well, Isn’t That Convenient?”
By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM in Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton, Hoodwinking, Rendition, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Sara in Italy
Recently, well, for the past five months anyway, people have been wondering just where Obama was going to make his church home in the DC area. Oh, he tried out a place or two, but you know, there are actual, real people there, and so much media focus, that he just couldn’t get into his spiritual place. So – guess where he has decided to go to church?
Camp David. I’m not kidding. The chapel at Camp David. Now he has an excuse to leave DC every weekend, if he wants. So he can go to church. Now, this may come as a shock to some of you, but Washington, DC, actually HAS some churches there. Heck, they even have a big, ol’ cathedral – perhaps you’ve heard of it, the NATIONAL Cathedral? Ahem.
But you know that’s not it. To paraphrase Michael Jackson, “sometimes (he) feels like somebody’s watching (him)…”:
Now, in an unexpected move, Obama has told White House aides that instead of joining a congregation in Washington, D.C., he will follow in George W. Bush’s footsteps and make his primary place of worship Evergreen Chapel, the nondenominational church at Camp David.A number of factors drove the decision — financial, political, personal — but chief among them was the desire to worship without being on display. Obama was reportedly taken aback by the circus stirred up by his visit to 19th Street Baptist in January. Lines started forming three hours before the morning service, and many longtime members were literally left out in the cold as the church filled with outsiders eager to see the new President. Even at St. John’s, which is so accustomed to presidential visitors that it is known as the “Church of the Presidents,” worshippers couldn’t help themselves from snapping photos of Obama on their camera phones as they walked down the aisle past him to take communion.
And how about that – right there in Time magazine – making the comparison between Bush and Obama! Teehee!
Seriously?? He was taken aback? David Axelrove has done NOTHING but MAKE a circus around Obama. Has he already forgotten his Greek columns in Denver? His plying people with food and drink to come to rallies (which the media conveniently failed to mention – except in Germany), so he could have HUGE gatherings to fawn all over him? C’mon, give me a break. I have never seen a man who wanted sycophants around him at every second – unless they are uncomfortably close. And then we see him getting irritable (”I just want to eat my waffles, okay??” Or whatever it was he said exactly…).
Now, I’ll grant you that it is inappropriate for people to be snapping photos of the Obamas while in church. A sense of decorum and decency would be nice, but sadly, we seem to be far from those days. Still, I have no doubt other presidents have had to endure people staring at them or what have you:
The challenge of not only being part of a church community but also praying in peace has long been a problem for Presidents, according to historian Carl Sferrazza Anthony. “McKinley hated having people staring at him while he read Psalms, sang hymns, put money in the collection plate or took communion,” he writes in America’s First Families. “By the 1920s, getting a presidential family in and out of church was a production. Secret Service agents had to cordon off a clear path from the curb to the church entrance before the Coolidges arrived … [and] they were swiftly escorted to their third-row pew.”The Clintons attended Foundry United Methodist Church on 16th Street, and were particularly active during the years before Chelsea left for college. But White House aides say that security measures required by the Secret Service have become stricter since 9/11 and would cause significant delays for parishioners — and at significant cost to taxpayers — on Sunday mornings. Given Obama’s popularity within the African-American community, the President also worried that if he chose a local black congregation, church members would find themselves competing with sightseers for space in the pews.
Oh, isn’t that SO thoughty of the president?!? He’s always worried about the little people as he has demonstrated time and time again… Hahahahaha!! I could barely even write that out…Anyway, the Obamas won’t have to deal with the hoi poloi at Camp David:
The First Family won’t have that problem at Camp David, where the 150-seat Evergreen Chapel attracts a congregation of between 50 and 70 people most Sundays. The rustic stone-and-glass octagonal structure was built nearly two decades ago through private funds; President George H.W. Bush dedicated it in 1991. At the ceremony, Christian singer Sandi Patti sang and the late Cardinal James Hickey of Washington delivered a sermon calling the chapel a “witness to our common belief that we need to seek divine guidance in the conduct of our national affairs.”Each week, regardless of whether the President is on-site, Evergreen Chapel holds nondenominational Christian services open to the nearly 400 military personnel and staff at Camp David, as well as their families. A music director from nearby Hood College coordinates adult and children’s choirs (Clinton sang occasionally with the choir when he visited). In December, the kids in the congregation put on a Christmas pageant and the chapel holds a candlelight service on Christmas Eve. The Bush family enjoyed Christmas at Evergreen Chapel so much that they celebrated the holiday there for all eight years of Bush’s Administration.
Well, you know, poor old Obama has lost his pastor, The Reverend Jeremiah Wright, over those little kerflufles at his church. You know the ones – when Wright was preaching his vitriolic, hate mongering sermons? Thus leaving Obama wandering in the desert without his former minister. But he is making do:
(snip)But Barack Obama found himself spiritually isolated upon entering the Oval Office. He famously broke ties last year with Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor, and resigned his membership at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. So, just as he followed Bush’s lead in choosing Evergreen as a church home, the President is taking a page from Clinton’s playbook on this front: Obama has a small group of pastors he contacts for prayer and spiritual support (including two men who played the same role at times for Bush).Those two, Kirbyjon Caldwell and T.D. Jakes, are both African-American ministers from Texas. Caldwell offered a prayer at Bush’s first inauguration and in 2008 he officiated at Jenna Bush’s wedding. By that point, he was an Obama supporter, even launching the website JamesDobsonDoesntSpeakForMe.com last summer when the Focus on the Family leader accused Obama of “deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview.” Obama chose Jakes to preach the sermon at a private prayer service the morning of his inauguration and reached out to him to pray by phone on other occasions.
While the other three leaders Obama turns to are all members of his Faith Advisory Council, when he contacts them it is to talk not on a policy level but a personal one. Otis Moss Jr. is a retired Baptist pastor who once served with Martin Luther King Sr. at Ebeneezer Church. His son is the new pastor — following Jeremiah Wright — at Trinity in Chicago, but Moss is the model of a proper old-school preacher and is the father figure of Obama’s group. His fellow council member, Joel Hunter, is a white evangelical and pastor of a Florida megachurch. And Vashti McKenzie is the first female elected as a bishop in the African Methodist Episcopal Church.
McKenzie isn’t surprised that Obama has reached out for prayer and guidance. “This President has not shown himself to be a person in isolation — going out on dates, spending time in the community,” she says. “You wouldn’t expect him to isolate himself spiritually. This is a man with a faith center, we’ve heard him give his testimony.” Her advice for how to build a life of faith within the White House? “Everybody needs to just back off and settle down. Let him choose where he’s comfortable, choose where he and his family are going to be spiritually fed, and then let it be his choice.” Amen. (With reporting by Elizabeth Dias)
Hold the phone – didn’t Wright say recently that Obama was like a son to him? Oh, I am pretty sure he did, as American Girl in Italy reported recently in “Reverend Wright Complicit In Murder At Holocaust Museum?“:
“Of course I voted for him; he’s my son. I’m proud of him,” Wright said. “I’ve got five biological kids. They all make mistakes and bad choices. I haven’t stopped loving any of them.“He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I’ve got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him.”
Uh huh. I’ll say. But wouldn’t you LOVE to know what Reverend Wright means by that?? Anyhoo, I digress…
As for McKenzie’s claims, you have got to be kidding me. Because Obama takes his wife out on a date to New York on OUR dime, I might add, McKenzie extrapolates Obama likes to be among the people? Hogwash. He likes to be on stage, he likes the sycophants, but I (and others) have reported the numerous times Obama has gotten testy with people. Heck, I’ve never seen Hillary get testy even when men were screaming sat her, “Iron my shirt! Iron my shirt!” But Obama? Please. There was a post I saw the other day about Obama’s glares at world leaders who weren’t following the script, something his own aides pointed out. Here’s a little video of the Primaries to remind you:
Bit I digress again. The point is I think the Right Rev. McKenzie gives Obama way too much credit for wanting to be “sociable” and out with the people. Her statement is contradictory to the whole point of the article – Obama does NOT want to be around a lot of people, hence his desire to go to Camp David for church. And to get out of Washington AWAY from all of those people.
And isn’t it ironic that he has taken yet another page from the Bush playbook? Though this one won’t be destroying a bunch of lives like, say, “prolonged detention.” Perhaps Obama can pray about that while he is at Camp David…









































Catoctin is only a couple of miles from Site R: Dick Cheney’s
spiderhole in the ground. He probably uses the tunnel between them to enjoy some quality time with hispartner in crimerelative andhave his key woundunwind.“Somebody’s Watching Me” is not by Jackson but the artist Rockwell.
But it does sound like Jackson, I too thought it was Jackson for a long time.
Michael sang the “I always feel like somebody’s watching me” bit. The song was by Rockwell (aka Kennedy Gordy–son of Motown founder, Berry Gordy, Jr) but Michael provided that very memorable hook. (Reportedly, Michael did the piece as a favor for his friend and didn’t want any label credit, hoping to boost Rockwell’s chance for a career. Since the song came out while Michael was still red-hot, MJ felt that his getting a label credit would make it look like Rockwell was riding the “Thriller” coattails.)
That is truly a disgusting image, Nom.
God-this guy is such a liar, he doesn’t care about church he cares about Camp David–he probably worships everyday in the Oval Office with a picture of himself and candles on his desk with Pelosi, Reid, Axelrod and Emanuel praising him.
lmao What a vision that conjured up!
Speaking Emanuel there was a headline article yesterday on WH staff salaries. Rahm was at the top of the list. Now, why is this guy drawing a salary on the public dime? He’s a BILLIONAIRE BANKER from Chicago. you’d think he would say, that’s okay, I don’t need the people’s money, I just live to serve. It shows what crooks these people are that they take salaries they don’t need.
You two are so funny! I can see BOTH of those things happening.
I heard Jonah Goldberg this morning say the people at Newsweek probably light votive candles to Obama every day, and are crafting legislation to make him President forever.
Don’t you LOVE, though, that he CLAIMS he is doing this for the congregations’ sake?? Oh, yes – so magnanimous of him…Spare me.
Good article Amy.
Barry CLAIMS many things,but I believe we can easily come to the summation he only serves himself.
Still cracking up over worshiping himself.
To borrow a quote – “He’s a self-made man and worships his creator.”
ROTFLMAO…
Rev. Amy, My “prayer” is stuck to the collection plate…. can you free it from it’s “isolation”?
Help LOL!
crafting legislation to make him President forever
Worked for his buddy Chavez not so much with…
oops Honduras has a Constitution…
Bear in mind that the DULY-ELECTED President of Honduras was overthrown BEFORE his term was over.
How’s that Honduran Constitution working for you, now?
Bear in mind that the DULY-ELECTED President of Honduras was overthrown BEFORE his term of office was over. (He had nearly 6 more months left of his term before the military decided to take action.)
So, how’s that Honduran Constitution working for you, now?
Admittedly, my Spanish is a bit rusty and trying to read the Constitution of Honduras in Spanish is a bit rough (if you think English legalese is bad, try the legalese of a foreign language), but I can’t find anything in the 1982 Constitution that authorizes the military to depose a legally-elected President nor could I find anything that authorizes the Honduran Congress or Supreme Court to sanction a military coup.
The President of Honduras was perhaps overstepping his authority in seeking to hold a special election in which the people would decide if he could run for another term, but the Congress of Honduras, the Supreme Court of Honduras and the Honduran military were overstepping THEIR authority when they sanctioned and carried out the coup. (More to the point, their actions were more harmful than the President’s action since the President sought his people’s support while the Congress decided that the people shouldn’t be allowed to vote on a matter. Whose action was the more democratic?)
JoezAL, your point is well taken. The Hondurian Constitution states that only the Congress can authorize by two thirds majority to amend the Constitution. It is also my underestanding that within thier Constitution there are several articles that can not be amended.
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He acted unconstitutionally So thier The Honduran Supreme Court says to him no dice
He flips them the bird.
What is the sworn obligation of the Honduran military? Many who our country has trained? Oh to protect and defend the constitution…(you know the rest.) Even allowing for the end result maybe distasteful and allowing for corruption.
So this where we part, respectfully.
What ever was going down in Honduras it cannot be viewed in isolation… There is a marxist trend in So America…which I am sure has not escaped you.
Ok?
Now just imagine that it was going down in the good ole’ USofA…oops it has. It’s called the Unitary Executive.
What’s a military to do?
Article 239 of the Honduran Constitution (Spanish and English):
Article 239: No citizen that has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.
ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Designado. El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos, y quedarán inhabilitados por diez años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.
I agree with our constitution and theirs – I dont think everything should be up to a plebiscite.
Have a nice day.
In which direction on the compass does the Altar at Evergreen Chapel face?
I’m just asking.
[And, with a massive dose of sarcasm, blatantly trying to start another Muslim conspiracy theory, what with a boring holiday weekend coming up and all.]
What, no churches with surround mirrors?
At Camp David teleprompters can be easily added to follow along………just sayin
Barack Obama found himself spiritually isolated upon entering the Oval Office…
That can happen when you know you are God.
Only find out your the punchline to a joke, the result of a one dollar bet made at bar around the corner from the Goldman Sacks NY headquarters, late one Friday afternoon…
Seeking spiritual santuary from the pages of your Maxim magazine during you trial and tribulations of you cannonization.
Bridging the gap between your immoral self and all the poor freezing people of your assembly district of Chicago…
What do you think the odds are that Rev. Manning might do a sermon at the Camp david Church. I wonder what it would be on?
For that matter Reverend Amy what would yours be on?
Can a brother get a witness and an Amen?
wonderful Post.
Lord above; thank you for retrieving my post from the collection tray!
All my prayers have been answered.
AMEN!
Um, HUMILITY and HONESTY???
GREAT comments – y’all are the best. Just cracking me up (which direction does the altar face; surround mirrors. God being lonely…LOL.).
This just in….
BHO was pissed that 19th Street Baptist in DC wouldn’t give him a cut of the collection.
[Isn't fake news fun? Now I see why MSNBC does it.]
do you realize that the only focus on CNN this week are Michael Jackson and Obama.
How weird is that? Nothing but news of a talented dead black guy that morphed into a white guy, and a talentless half black guy who went to a white hating church for twenty years, and who wants to kill all of US with massive doses of toxic kool-aid. Fact is often stranger than fiction.
Campbell Brown is even weirder. I hear she’s a drag queen.
I’m surprised he hasn’t followed to Ronald Reagan’s path to church.
Do I detect a slight bit of sarcasm here?
Thanks be to God!
Any respectable church would spontaneously ignite if he walked in.
Barack obviously needs to keep a low profile where religion is concerned. The more attention the Bamboozler in Chief has on his new church, the more people are reminded of BO’s fabrications i.e., Wright.
its jermaine jackson who sang that song not michael
I sincerely do as one human to another human to another he doesn’t confuse the call to prayer with a 3am call during someflashback to the TUCC while in the pews of Evergreen.
I will also pray for those at Evergreen Church parisoners.
It’s ok, I understand BO. Your solitude is like the sound of a Jumangi case floating down the river of your sins of indifference.
I sincerely do
Hopeas one human..Hope is a four letter word when BO is the context.
But hope is not gonna put food on the tables of the families that have lost 3,382,000 jobs since January of this year…563,000 jobs a month on average.
OMG, that is just CLASSIC Obama. He cannot commit to anything. He’s now voting “present” on church!! Always about protecting his highest priority–his career. Unbelievable. He is gutless.
We’ll call Sundays Obama’s smoking day. Thats really what this is about. He can’t do it in the White House but Camp David is another story. Ahhh, to be able to light up without the flickering cameras.
Do they tithe at Camp David?
I understand why it may have taken Obama a long time to find the right church. There simply aren’t that many ministers that can preach “Hope and Change”, “Yes We Can”, and “God Da*m Amerika”, all at the same time.
Not to mention the sound of the call to prayer…as outlined in Islam. Obama himself said it was beautiful.
Oh, and where’s the birth certificate, Barack? Under the pew?
I think Oblahblah is probably an athiest. I think his parents were as well, so it may just not be in him to have religious faith.
If you dont want to go to church, dont. If you really arent all that into a supreme being, dont pretend to be. Going to church to scam a few votes seems really gross to me – and I am a nonreligious person myself.
Church, a place to pander votes while pretending to pray. Typical.
As I always say, if you want to find a concentration of hypocrites, check out the front row Sunday morning.
Some of us who talk to God regularly and quite sincerely have little personal use for Man’s churches, bickering sects, and religious denominations.
Financial? FINANCIAL???
You mean he won’t have to kick in for the collection plate at Camp David, right?
financial as in the cost to the city and the church to provide crowd control and security.
According to AP, he has a serious problem this weekend. Twenty little girlfriends of his daughter, Malia, will be at Camp David to celebrate her birthday.
They also reported he has a problem with the White House pastry chef. “Whatever pie you like, he will make it and it will be the best pie you have ever eaten,” Obama said. “And so, we are having to figure out how to resist ordering pie every night.”
And it that isn’t enough there is another more serious problem: Before interviews, his aides constantly want to powder his nose and forehead to get rid of the shine. He said, “I find that quite irritating.”
And here you are Rev Amy, poking fun at this poor man. See what he has to deal with?
I am 60 years old and I do not ever remember a president who gushed so much over all the “perks” of being president. It’s all Obambi and MEchelle care about.
It’s incredibly tacky.
And so, we are having to figure out how to resist ordering pie every night.”
I hear “Crow ala mode” is exellent too, maybe he should try it instead.
OMG! I just read that Obama told “religious reporters” he gets daily prayers on his BlackBerry! The WH Minister of Faith (I kid you not, he did create this position and our tax dollars are paying for the man to have an office in the WH and a fat salary) sends Obambi daily prayers.
Why do we not hear outrage from the Democrats on this? When Bush created the Faith Based Initiative all the people who support Obama nearly had a meltdown.
I keep thinking of one issue. Has he ever been baptized? I read that he was never baptized at Rev. Wright’s church (the girls were). And you know his flower-child mother never had him baptized (my assumption). So if he chose not to be baptized at Rev. Wright’s church, it must be becuase he didn’t want to become a Christian. Baptism is the absolute basic requirement if you are a Christian.
I would love to see some media exploration of this issue, but I’m not holding my breath. I think it’s highly significant.
He and his family should worship wherever they want. If they’ve decided upon the relative seclusion of the chapel at Camp David over somewhere they’d constantly be in the public spotlight, good for them. When I want to talk to my Creator I want the clarity and focus afforded by seclusion. I don’t want the distractions of a social environment.