2nd Thread: Palin to Step Down as Governor at the End of July…”Open Thread* [Updated by Larry Johnson]
By Ani on July 4, 2009 at 9:27 AM in Current Affairs
READ the first thread below, posted by Ani on Friday afternoon and updated by Larry Johnson. Those comments are now closed, but can all be read. Please post new comments here. – SusanUnPC
ORIGINAL FRIDAY POST: Yes, that is the news. According to NY Times’s Mitchell L. Blumenthal, Sarah Palin to Resign as Governor of Alaska effective July 25th:
Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska announced Friday that she would step down by the end of the month and not seek a second term as governor, fueling speculation that she is seriously weighing whether to seek the Republican nomination for president in 2012.
Ms. Palin, who was Senator John McCain’s vice presidential running mate last year and solidified the support of the party’s conservative base, explained her decision at a news conference at her home in Wasilla, Alaska, accompanied by her husband, Todd, and other family members.
“We know we can effect positive change outside of government,” she said in making the announcement.
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Known as Sarah Barracuda when she played basketball in high school, Ms. Palin used point guard analogy in explaining her decision, saying she knows “exactly when to pass the ball so the team can win.”She said that she planned to hand over the reins of the state government to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, who would be sworn in at the governor’s picnic in Fairbanks later this month.
“This decision came after much consideration,” Ms. Palin told reporters gathered at her home, and added, “I really don’t want to disappoint anyone with this announcement.”
There had been wide speculation that she would seek to be the Republican Party’s presidential candidate in 2012. Gov. Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, who is also considered to be a leading Republican candidate for president in 2012, announced last month that he would not seek re-election.
By leaving office early, Ms. Palin, a 45-year-old mother of five, will be able to travel around the country more freely and not be constrained by the duties and responsibilities of being a governor.
“Some are going to question the timing of this, and let me say this decision has been in the works for quite a while,” she said.
I cannot imagine what her thinking is here, but surely having to deal with all sorts of bogus ethics complaints, paying astronomical legal fees and fending off the non-stop media hit squad doesn’t help her in doing her job as Governor, or in caring for her family.
Whatever her motives or endgame here, I find the witch hunt against her absolutely disgusting. Ironic that prior to Sarah Palin being chosen as Senator McCain’s running mate, she commented about Hillary Clinton being on the receiving end of sexist attacks at the hands of the media. While she was very respectful of Clinton, she said at the time a woman knows she’ll be dealing with this going in, so she’s just got to be twice as good and get on with it. She intimated it would be better to just not mention it.
It is unfortunate that she has learned the hard way just what SoS Clinton has had to deal with for sixteen years.
Your thoughts, please.
UPDATE–Couple of articles with more substance on Governor Palin’s decision and motive.
Here’s what Sam Stein reports:
The head of the Republican Governor’s Association said on Friday that in emails sent to him moments before she announced her resignation as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin discussed expanding the role she played in the Republican Party.
“Part of her decision is she wants to spend more time campaigning for candidates,” Nick Ayers, the executive director of the RGA, told Fox News.
“She felt like she needed to make her colleagues around the country aware, so she had given us a brief heads up,” Ayers said of getting the emails. “We have known for a couple of days she was considering not running for re-election but it was news today that she had gone ahead and made the decision to fully step down and resign.”
My friend, John Batchelor, posted this a bit ago (the original appears at the Daily Beast):
Rather than a blow to a career, Sarah Palin’s decision to resign underlines her self-awareness, writes The Daily Beast’s John Batchelor. She is now unmatched for the 2012 primary.
The early excuse for the Republican circular firing squad of the holiday weekend is that Weekly Standard editor and party brainiac Bill Kristol claims that pugnacious McCain campaign enforcer Steve Schmidt has been caught gossiping to Vanity Fair’s Todd Purdum about Sarah Palin’s rambling and incoherent vice-presidential campaign last September and October. (Now that Palin has announced her resignation from Alaska’s governorship, the late excuse for the fisticuffs will certainly be that the boys smelled a special mom baking an apple pie in the kitchen of the GOP and they got in line early with a plate and appetite.)
Purdum, writing with a polite disdain, does flatter Palin as “the sexiest and riskiest brand in the Republican Party,” before he goes on to mention unnamed McCain campaign sources who tell stories of Palin’s erratic behavior on the trail supposedly caused by her “post-partum depression.” Kristol asserts as evidence that Schmidt was the source of this defamatory rumor that Kristol knows that Schmidt has recently emailed Palin out of the blue. “Perhaps Steve was nervous someone would finger him for the Purdum piece,” Kristol proposes.
What Palin begins with an announcement from Wasilla is not only a campaign, it is an Iditarod of a crusade.
Firing back, Schmidt immediately emailed a reference to Bill Kristol’s distant youth when he worked for the perennial GOP chump, Vice President Dan Quayle: “I’m sure John McCain would be president today if only Bill Kristol had been in charge of the campaign.”
Meanwhile, the sniping continues to deteriorate, with erstwhile McCain campaign advisers like Randy Scheunemann choosing sides with Kristol (Scheunemann hates Schmidt, who tried to force him out of the campaign as a leaker and confiscated his BlackBerry), while Schmidt reveals that he had the permission of McCain and Palin to ferret out who was leaking unkind details on Palin to the media. No comment yet from the senator and the governor on their genius of a Plumbers Unit. Another campaign aide, Nicole Wallace, and her husband, Mark Wallace, are mentioned as founts of poison on Palin. “This is all news to me,” Nicole Wallace proclaims.
Is this normal after a losing presidential campaign? No. Nor is this a normal year for the Republicans. Kristol and Schmidt and their cronies all know that the Republican brand that they depend upon for a job and for money, lots of money, has been wrecked to the point of no return. They are veterans of a lost cause with one wild adventure to try before history moves on—and the adventurer’s name is Sarah Palin.
Palin’s sudden announcement that she will resign the Alaska governorship at the end of July, delivered alongside the fireworks of the 4th of July, underlines her self-awareness that she must respond to the pyrotechnics of her stature in the GOP—and must respond in an explosive fashion. Discarding the demands of an Alaska job that is at best part-time, undemanding, predictable, banal, means that she will now devote full-time to traveling the “lower 48” in order to speak, speak, speak. Wherever she goes, she is Alaska, moose-hunting, and Wasilla. As a candidate, she begins the nomination hunt with a formula that none of her rivals can match, not even Mitt Romney, not only because she gave up something in order to go for the White House but also because she reached this decision by being drafted.What is going on right now in the Republican Party—even as the professionals scramble to react with grins and snorts to the news of Palin’s Alaska resignation—are the early scenes of the 2012 campaign for the presidency with Sarah Palin as the once and future hero. Like Joan of Arc, Catherine the Great, Elizabeth Regina, and, skipping four centuries of quarrelsome princes, Margaret Thatcher, the Republican Party has already decided that the governor of Alaska will rescue the GOP from its ruination. What Sarah Palin begins with an announcement from Wasilla is not only a campaign, it is an Iditarod of a crusade—first woman, first mom, and second moose-hunter into the White House.
If you scoff at Palin for president, you are likely insufficiently cynical to work on a national campaign. Eight months after the election, the governor is as natural and gifted a presidential candidate as anyone since Huey Long. The farther she stays away from Washington and the longer she pushes away those sharpies clamoring for her to raise PAC money, to prepare gray-bearded policy positions, network at the barbecues in Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina (well, maybe not South Carolina right now), the more box-office irresistible she will be to Republican primary voters. What most recommends the Palin boom is that she is now, 40 months to the election, as celebrated by the GOP right wing as she is reviled by the Democratic left wing.
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I find it hilarious that so many koolaid drinkers are here STILL bashing Sarah Palin and filling up the last thread. Something tells me they will keep her profile high and in the news.
Palin’s favorablility ratings are the highest among Republican voters–higher than Romney’s. If I were REALLY gloating about Palin’s stepping down, I wouldn’t be wasting my time continuing to run her down.
Face it, President “O” is scared sh!tless and so are the America-haters out to destroy her.
Yes, the neo-Dem strategy of continuous litigation and attacks against Palin has BO’s fingerprints all over it. As is BO’s Chicago way, he always tries to eliminate any threat or potential threat out of the running. This is also so reminiscent of how the neo-cons went after Bill and Hillary in the 1990s. It looks like the same forces are at play here.
Just wait until she gets charged by the feds! Ha! I can’t wait to hear the conspiracy theories swirl then.
Do you know something we don’t? Don’t keep us in suspense! Please tell us! Otherwise . . .
I read somebody saying that the “brand” of windows used in a public building in Wasilla was the same “brand” of window used in the Palin home. It went on that law enforcement types thought that was too coincidental, and that obviously there must be some wrong doing. But, how many companies make windows? How many “brands” can you actually feasibly order in Wasilla? I think this is just another witch hunt. They don’t even think they are right, it is terrorism except through the legal system. It is like when ACORN descends on voter registration offices to overwhelm them and prevent them from doing their jobs. It is just legal terrorism.
I’ve never been to Alaska but I don’t think there are numerous window companies to choose from there. If all they are going by is that Palin’s house has the same kind windows then the charges are pretty flimsy.
it’s not just about some windows, the supposed concerns are outlined here:
http://www.examiner.com/x-775-Political-Issues-Examiner~y2009m7d4-Federal-embezzlement-charges-explain-Sarah-Palin-resigning-as-Alaska-governor
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280#more-7280 and in links at bradblog, esp the village voice one
it does look bad: hopefully more information will be forthcoming to get a complete picture.
I’d be careful of repeating those rumors if I were you.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24521.html
YOU DON’T THREATEN MY RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH YOU LITTLE F#CKING NAZI.
Her lawyer can make all the freaking threats he wants: everyone on this is speculating as to why she quit in the middle of her term.
Those rumors are about a relationship between the Palins and the company whose bid she accepted to build the stadium. It’s the job of the fed to investigate possible corruption: they get to decide what’s credible, not some Ari Fleischer clone like you.
You don’t get to speculate about a “criminal act”. That requires proof of fact!
More nazi thought police? F#ck off.
People can speculate about anything they like.
I have not said Palin has done anything. I made a comment that the info presented so far looks bad: it does look bad. Is it true? I don’t know and haven’t said it is true. Is there an investigation? Will there be charges? I don’t know and haven’t said I know. I haven’t said I believe the allegations either, merely that if they are true, they are damaging.
The standard for defamation of public figures is very high: you have to prove in a court of law that there was malicious intent. Stating that one has read articles that appear to show damaging information doesn’t remotely qualify.
And in any event, a sane person would be more concerned about attempts to restrict freedom of speech, the hallmark of a democracy, than defamation which carries a fine as punishment, much less would be making claims that any negative speculation is automatically defamation, when in fact it is not.
I noted on the previous thread that she has the backing of Kristol and a great many more neocons and stated that I believe they are behind her decision to pull out, that it is part of an overall strategy. Why don’t you try to sue me for that too, you little barking dog?
If there’s one thing anyone might have learned from the last campaign, it’s that associations matter.
I think the charges are crap and they are the result of the forty lawyers which descended on Wasilla during the elections to dig through dumpsters and dig up crap. It doesn’t have to be true to be useful, if the end result is just to tie her up in more legal battles thereby preventing her from being an effective governor. Again, it is the same as ACORN flooding voter registration offices and overwhelming them. It is the same as Cloward Piven. This is the work of cowards that hide behind our legal system.
Typical venomous koolaid drinker response. No civility. Too bad. Have a better chance of having people actually read your notions.
I agree. It is a shame that these lawyers didn’t go after That One with the same devotion to duty. I’m sure they wouldn’t even need to (shudder) dumpster-dive to get the complete set of goods on that ersatz South-side tough.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-palin5-2009jul05,0,7018263.story
This might help…..
You mean when the Feds find out about lying about being a US Citizen, or are you talking about when they find out about his possible involvement in the killing of that gay church member, or maybe you are talking about when the Feds find out that Ayers actually wrote “Audacity of Hope” or are you talking about when the Feds find out he is still doing cocaine or are you talking about……….
There were THREE gay members from his church all killed around the same time and all in the same manner. Just the Chicago way I suppose.
Feds have issued a statement saying that Palin is not presently under any investigation nor are there any in the pipeline so you can stuff that BS where the sun don’t shine.
Um, the FEDS just said in no uncertain terms that she is not and has never been under investigation.
More rumors cooked up by the deranged Palin-haters.
Why don’t we start with the “she’s going to be charged by the feds” conspiracy theory.
We want Palin’s profile high! We WANT her to become the GOP nominee in 2012. Why? Because she tear apart the Republican party even further and she is such a monumentally horrible candidate that even if Obama’s approval rating is at 40% or lower – he’d still beat her.
That’s what Samantha Powers called Hillary–you Obots are all alike–brainless!
A-Nony-Mouse
I don’t think Obama will be in a position to run for a second term. He will have made such a mess of the county. The American prople will have come oput of their coma before then
“even if Obama’s approval rating is at 40% or lower”
A prediction? I’ll buy that for a dollar.
mouse, we want? please, you are a follower and do the obit’s bidding. what a waste of bandwidth your posts are!
Well, if you are so sure B0 can beat whoever runs against him in 2012, even if his approval rating is 40%, why do you care who the repub nominee is??
I’m hoping Palin can be the nominee so Obama can win something like 63% to 37%. I think that kind of huge landslide could help him to have the political capital to have a strong second term. Plus it’d be funny to watch Palin in a general election. She’s so bad, she’s good (from an entertainment standpoint.) She’s just a horrendous politician.
hey everyone take a good look at what continuing to drink koolaid and not facing reality produces, suzie!
America haters? No. Sorry. It’s the folks who want their states to secede from the nation that are the real America haters. It’s the people who don’t care that 50 million Americans don’t have health care that are the true American haters. Conservatives used to say that people who spoke out against the President (Bush) were anti-American. Now it’s them speaking out against our President. As they used to say: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!
nony, why don’t you take a hike! go to some site where obama lovers like to meet. your attacks on palin are disgusting!
isn’t mouse just soooo cute! dear, your nurse is looking for you said something about meds!
Put me in the hater group then. Nothing right now would make me more happy than a split between red and blue states. There is too much enmity between us. The reasons to remain in a union that used to exist aren’t there anymore. There is no reason blue and red states shouldn’t be able to exist as they want without the interference of the other. The two nations need not even fight over ideology at all. Just split and be done with it. We aren’t a united nation anymore and what we have isn’t productive or healthy for either nation. We don’t have any leaders who can unite us or that even have the desire to unite us. We have become dysfunctional as a society because we are living the lie that we are a united people. We are not.
You know I was wondering just this morning if the United States have become too large and complex to sustain a single national entity. What if it truly is better and fitting that the fifty states divide? Maybe we could form a more perfect “union” if we became more like Europe where each country maintains its individuality while joining to become a part of a bigger whole. Then states like Massachusetts and California could sink or swim on their own.
Well, it’s just a thought…
Well, I don’t know anything about Massachusetts, but I do know that even though California is portrayed as a monolith, there’s actually a lot of diversity here. As a matter of fact, over the years there have been many calls to divide up California, itself, into 3 or 4 parts, because many people feel they aren’t represented by the ruling elite.
It should work that we would all feel some sort of self-control within our own states, and then have the general link of being the same country. I think the reason we don’t is because it’s all a farce. We’ve been led to believe that we have choice by being able to vote in our choice of dem or repub. I’m at the point where I don’t think there’s much difference – we’re just manipulated to think there is. It’s not really dem vs repub – it’s us vs politicians/corporatists. And as long as that’s true, we’re not going to feel united or represented, whether we’re 50 states in one country, our 7 regions in one land mass. That’s where I’m at right now, anyway.
It’s a crazy thought. Everyone in a red or blue state is not red or blue. Do you propose we check voting rolls and throw those who don’t agree with the majorities out? Do we deport Independents?
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/
Whoever suggested dividing simply by red or blue? What a simplistic thought! It should be obvious that the division would be more complicated. Did you not see where I mentioned the complexities?
docelder comment was: Nothing right now would make me more happy than a split between red and blue states. There is too much enmity between us. The reasons to remain in a union that used to exist aren’t there anymore. There is no reason blue and red states shouldn’t be able to exist as they want without the interference of the other. The two nations need not even fight over ideology at all. Just split and be done with it.
my comment should have gone there, sorry: that’s the part I find truly crazy. I took your comment as elaboration upon his idea without a refuting of its underlying premise, sorry for mistake.
Yes, but people can choose to live in whatever state they want. I said two nations, but in reality if this split it would probably fracture into 4-5 members. The details aren’t as important to me as the act of liberation itself. If we were to redo the civil war today, I don’t think it would come down to a North-South line… it would more likely be an East-West split this time. But, I am not saying there would be a “line” at all. States could align as they see fit. They wouldn’t be all red or blue on the inside, just mostly red or blue by alignment with one another… state to state. Probably, this would never happen, but it would suit me fine if it did. I stand by that much.
I think it would make people that much less inclined to get along, and can’t get enthused about the dissolution of my country. I’d be real happy if we could put plus or minus the entire congress on trial for treason, though, and noteworthy members of the executive branch.
I have to jump in here as I’ve live in over 20 places in my 53 years including a few countries and I must tell you……………
MOST DEMS in BLUE states wish to FORCE all AMERICANS to get along no matter what
MOST REPS in RED states would LOVE to split
a LOT of DEMS in red states would NOW love to split!
It’s not saying you are now a captured spy if we split and you don’t agree – but give you a chance to MOVE to your chosen state. Even the Katrina victims got out eventually. If this was planned and voted on we’d have years to prepare! I LIKE IT! Never used to but have since changed my mind!
Of course I’m now in a red state again. Just left a ONCE red state that turned blue this time around. That might throw them off. The states that are really evenly divided purple like………… they could figure it out though.
Europe is split with a BUNCH of countries and they all use the euro (most).
We could do that! (dreaming)
Exactly, why should good people who live in red states have to live with the fanciful whimsies of the folks in blue states just because the population there is dense enough to outnumber the red state population. That is effectively the same as no representation for the red states. The red states can have a say, but they are outnumbered anyway. What is the point of that? Further, our President has no desire to unite us. He is a community organizer. Community organizers operate by dividing people against one another by race and class, not by uniting them. We can have a European style arrangement, even share a currency and not be so tied together that we resent what the other wants.
Wait…it was YOUR guy who thinks this country is horrible! You must agree with him then because he’s dismantling 233 years of our independence in mere months! He apologizes for our country to foreign leaders, sides with foreign American hating dictators, doesn’t want to “meddle” in an Iranian election when people are cryiing for “freedom”. He has broken multiple promises he’s made to his koolaid drinkers (read: YOU), he is attempting to emasculate Pres. Clinton by sending him to Haiti…taking the teeth out of Hillary’s role (he was and IS afraid of her)…he’s been backed by ACORN and has gotten many questionable donations to prop him in office, he REFUSES to even show his Birth Certifcate (but would spend millions on preventing it in court cases)….
No, you are siding with all that is already represented by the likes of Chavez, Castro and BO’s cousin ODINGA. Maybe you’re the one who needs to move to a country that already has the government you want.
PS…don’t forget the millions of illegal immigrants he wants to give amnesty and health insurance. O is just worried about O’s chances of winning the next election–unless he pulls something like that.
Can you not even research your own candidate? Palin ran on a ticket espousing amnesty and she is on record stating first that she is against illegal immigration, but simultaneously she approves a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2112715/posts
“Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
“No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They’ve got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.
“To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
“I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
you want some cake with that?
You need a dictionary. A “path to citizenship” is NOT the same as amnesty.
you need a brain: it will be.
And you need a new crystal ball. Since you know so much about the future and are so good at predictions, I’m surprised you’re here and not out losing your money at the racetrack.
amnesty = letting the illegal aliens stay here
path to citizenship = letting the illegal aliens stay here
I don’t need a magic 8 ball to see that there’s no real difference.
You didn’t distribute your middle term so your argument falls apart, genius.
magic 8 ball says: I didn’t say there’s no difference, I said there’s no real difference: you really can get to the same place by different paths.
Suzy Q go get sized for your burka now. Be the first on your block. If he and his handlers have your way you will wear one. Of course M will be allowed to wear colorful ones, like wide stripes going around her hips. Really stylish.
Don’t forget the sexual mutilation is store for women. What fun.
Here is one more of his trolls heard from.
MAUREEN DOWD TRASHES ‘NUTTY’ PALIN
Sat Jul 04 2009 14:40:36 ET
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmdp.htm
Hmmmm…seems that I saw Anonymouse say something like that around here. Nah, Maureen wouldn’t steal someone else’s words and call someone else nutty.
SARAH PALIN…2012!!!!
Look at the bright side, Now Alaska and this country get relief from that woman’s incredibly annoying voice!
Besides, she needs more time at home to help take care of all her unwed and preggy daughters and her illegitimate grandkids. I’m just thinking about her lovely family is all.
Just think….Obama`s mother gave him away. Can`t say I blame her.
To THAT One: 0zero’s mother was unwed and pregnant with him when she was 17years old. She continued to be an unwed mother for many years. During his childhood, your hero lived with his father for six years and later with his grandparents. That’s a pretty ‘lovely’ family as well for your idol.
yup fran and there were some photos taken of is what appeared to be his other without many clothes. that one, tell us exactly what is there to admire? huh? michelle? no! the children are off limits to me. so is the dog! but obama is bizarre to say the least. his new church is the chapel at camp david? that is bizarre!
His “church” is the golf course at Camp David.
What an ugly humorless post! Here it is the 4th of July. I wonder where Sara Palin’s son Track is right now. I think his unit is done with their year in Iraq. Do you like the word “preggy”? I think it’s rather demeaning. What a twerp you are!
THAT: I guess Obama’s family is lovely, no? He’s a crook, he just has PEOPLE to cover for him.
that one! tell you what let’s discuss all your family members slinging ugly comments at them and you. take your personal attacks and put them in a deep dark place. stick to the subject of her resignation and wonderful political future. we know you can’t deal with reality but give it a try.
Due to the fact that Obama Senior was already married to someone in Kenya when BO was conceived, then BO would be categorized as illegitimate. Do you really want to have that discussion,”THAT One”?
Comment by A-Nony-Mouse | 2009-07-03 19:14:46
“It’s a great move for her to quit her job early? What kind of alternate reality do you live in
Well, it worked for Obama…
Unlike Obama, Palin was actually doing her job.
Are you seriously comparing Obama quitting his job as Senator to take his office as The President of the United States to Palin’s absurd flakiness (which I’m sure we’ll find is because of a scandal) in this case?
yeah, i like to think about obama rsigning. why wouldn’t you? what has he done for america? the answer is not one daxx thing!
Obama never even functioned as senator from Illinois with the exception of some well-placed earmarks. The man was running for president from the moment he was sworn in?
Remember when Hillary nailed him for his failure to hold any hearings on Afghanistan? Obama said he was “too busy running for president.”
Oops – I meant that in response to Mouse, not you, stodgie.
It’s a valid comparison. Obama was NOT a good senator and he is NOT a good president. He was busy running on the coattails of others and being bought by the likes of George Soros and Move on .org ao what ever they are.
The man is one of the biggest liarers I have seen in a long time.
That’s right. BO just voted “present” or OOPs for most of his time in the Senate. Otherwise, he simply took credit for writing bills of other Senators. He CAMPAIGNED for POTUS for most of his time in office! Tell me, what has BO ever run?
At least Palin gave it everything she’s got and something tells me she sees the mess BO and Pelosi are getting us into and wants to make a difference. This IS Independence Day. Government by the people and for the people. Your guy thinks he’s dictator.
GO SARAH!
I have been saying, the Democrats were being stupid (as usual these days) for tipping their hand and showing how scared they were of Governor Palin, with their all out guns so early on.
She too just confirmed that. And now the Democrats got what they deserved, an unleashed Governor Palin. She is handing over the reigns to try to help keep the Governorship in the Republican hands AND, she is leaving on her HIGH note of accomplishments and now able to respond and address the Nation without her hands tied, while getting more and more exposure….as she writes her book and prepares for 2012. They can’t slap her with anymore ethics charges to waste her time and money, she’s her own person. roflmao Ha Ha Democrats, you so deserve the shit hole you are now swimming in.
Go Sarah!
Darlin, I’d wait till the other shoe drops. Methinks you and your ilk will be eating your words shortly.
Running and hiding won’t help poor little sarah now. There’s more to this story and you ain’t gonna be likin it!
Darlin, of course you would say that….let me get you some tissue while you cry. lmao
lmao stupid obamabots can’t figure what to make of Sarah not being all Greedy and PUNK-LIKE you know, like MOST politicians!
it’s hilarious – they just CAN’T HANDLE that SOME of us consider her the REAL AMERICAN!
She’d get my vote (and my MOM’s) in a heart beat! (mostly because she HAS ONE) and we’re both Pro-Choice X Dumbut dems.
Obama is a cold hearted bas***D (imo) and cares about NO one but his own reflection (which still confuses him).
Oh yea he probably cares about that “professional” wife for as long as she can bring the hood with her to the acorn voting booth. I don’t see (SEE) any heart there. EVER. Sarah is a Goddess! They shouldn’t envy her. They should LISTEN & WATCH what true HOPE is all about!!
What are you going to say when the scandal starts coming out? What are you going to say when Sarah Palin gets charged for criminal activities?
Do you know something we don’t? Please share. Otherwise . . .
Mousie may be talking about the next round of accusations, oowawa. The one I read about was building materials and contractor fees for the Palin house. There was an expensive Sport’s Complex built in Wasilla. Some people question the wisdom of the project and the contracts themselves.
There’s an investigation going on behind the scenes about whether Todd Palin tapped the project’s supplies and contractors workforce when he built the family home. They’re claiming the windows used are suspiciously alike to those used in the complex building. I think they’re trying to put together an illegal kickback scenario.
There’s one thing HRC and Palin share: they’re enemies are legion and vicious. There’s probably other charges brewing, too. It’s similar to the attacks on Bill Clinton–if one doesn’t bring the opponent down, you try another and another and another.
Sadly, the Dems learned the lesson well.
(sigh)
My personal feeling is that the coming economic Armageddon is going to render all of these petty vindictive witch-hunts inconsequential. I sure hope I’m once again wrong.
Another depression is coming. This is why Obama squirreled away the “stimulus” money. He knows there won’t be any money in a couple of years and he has squirreled away the change money. Its all about change. Unqualified change.
I think Obama squirreled away the stimulus money so he could dole it out in ways that will benefit him in the 2010 midterms. As far as a depression, it’s hard to say.
It’s becoming pretty well accepted that this cap and trade nonsense will hurt middle and lower income Americans. The only question is how much. And God only knows what affect it would have if they cram it through in the middle of this steep recession.
I was with a family this week. They had a profitable business. They are now on the brink of ruin. They are going to start by letting their cars go back. Then their farm or their house will be next. Their 10 employees will go down a similar path. Do you honestly think any of us would ever vote for O again?
But of course with ACORN involved and his citizen army there may well never be another election.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/al-qaeda-are-pawns-of-the-us-military-industrial-complex.html
the economic armageddon is a result of financing round the globe wars: that is the plan. there will be more witch hunts, not less as everyone fights for a slice of the shrinking pie.
She should just register herself as a democrat. It would make her bullet proof.
that didn’t help Clinton
Hey NNN, Barky just made a more pliable candidate as he was more willing to wear the empty suit. Were it not for the fact that he came along… and the fact that race trumps gender right now… Hillary would be President. She is a politician. She is a good politician, but is what she is. Palin is not a politician, she is a regular person. That is her appeal, that one of us could actually still have some say. Well, she did try, and she did prove without a doubt that one of us cannot have a say right now. In fact, we are effectively not represented at all by the current party system. But, Hillary was never treated like Palin was because Hillary really isn’t one of us. Hillary was treated like a woman politician. Badly and agreed. Palin was symbolically crucified for all our sakes because she represents all of us and because we are found to be in contempt by the current party system.
ANM — it doesn’t matter how many aliases you log in with, you’re still abysmally uninformed. Why don’t you run along and shoot off your load of fireworks?
We’d just say that the person who is accusing her of something is acting confused. Or what ever our telepromter tells us to. Now shut the hell up! Other people may want to listen to you, I just as soon break all your fingers and move on with my life. I detest you brown shirts a hell of alot more than i do Obama. And i look forward doing the next best thing dismantling Organizations like ACORN and Moveon.org that impower you once we get Obama out of office.
Sarah Palin could have resigned because she is a good mother and she got sick of her children being the butt of your jokes, and being told to lighten up when you attacked them. So instead of going mama grizzly and ripping heads off bodies she’s going to give her children the peace they deserve. I detest Obama, and at time i want to slap the mess out of Michelle, but i adore their kids and would never say anything about them that is anything less than flattering. One of the reason I refuse to vote democratic is that democrats have shown themselves to be abunch of bigots who no class. And Palin may let it slide but i’m no The only scandle I see is that a party who claims to be pro women and understanding is full of a bunch of angry immature people with chips on their shoulders and no Moral standards. you aren’t caring, or tolerent or nice, you are just as bigoted as you were. ou know nothing about half of the people you tear down and critize and then speak with the same bigoted certainty about them as a KKK member would speak about me just because i’m black.
hey mouse, put up or shut up! you allue to this and that and then run into your hole. stay in your hole!
Obama has a reflection?
LOL! Biden’s garlic necktie was a give away.
Darlin, if in your role as prophet(ess), you have anything explicit to say, please bring it forward so that we poor unenlightened rabble can gape in awe at your prowess. Otherwise, STFU!
Darlin’: there’s more to the Obama story too. He grows more unpopular by the day with his leveling and at the same time elitist policies.
Nonsense: Gallup has Obama’s approval rating at 62%. Still very strong.
Please look at Rasmussen.
RCP: Gallup is the high and Ras is the low. 59 is the average and it has stayed in the 50s for the last several days. Ras has support for his policies in the 40s.
Truth? Obama is doing no better than any other president. His popularity remains high but support for his policies is spiraling downward. It’s the policies that will get him re-elected, if he isn’t impeached first. No, it isn’t looking all that cheery for Mr. Bawhack Obumble.
And MicHELLe’s bare arms are so yesterday…
buzz, i guestion the polls. figures don’t lie but liars figure. the so called media and pollsters lied to us in the last election. why should we believe them now?
Obama Job Approval (Real Clear Average of all polls) Started at 63.3% when sworn in now at 59%. So it looks like Obama has been losing about 1% per month. As a new president he should be gaining or at least maintaining, not losing.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
yup, The bitch is going down. Personally i hope obama passes cap and trade. People will loose what ever silly notion that Obama and the democrats actually care. The numbers of industries that will be affected is mind boggling and i can honestly say i wouldn’t be up set if a few Obots lost their jobs. And if i loose mine, oh well, i revel in spite.
god i hope obama suceeds. If this country is going to be screwed up, let make sure it’s really screwed up.
Look at 10% unemployment.
do us all a favor & PISS OFF! Thank you.
Imagine if Sarah could campaign for enough GOP representatives and senators to get elected in 2010! She could help the country be rid of Nancy Pelosi. I am sure this is what the dems are really afraid of. She could also help raise funds for the national GOP and easily compete with Obama in media attention.
Did you see the pic of Pelosi window shopping for jewelry on her taxpayer-funded trip to Europe? LOL
Let ‘em eat cake!
The clock is ticking.
shorenuf? where did you get that screen name? who are you trying to insult with that? huh? besides that your comments are insults, full of slurs and not even good enough to use as shredded paper for kitty litter.
I hear that Obama’s half brother has a contract to write a book……speaking of “other shoes dropping” Hum………..
And … and … and … maybe the scandal will involve SEX. You get excited just thinking about it, don’t you?
Anna since the topic was NOT about sex, I will assume that you are the one in the need of sex. It it people such as yourself that drive others away. You have no ability to focus or to become engaged in a serious conversation on issues. My suggestion to you is that you Crawl Back Under Your ROCK.
Does it make you feel special to post over and over again, under different user names, the same hatefilled crap about Palin and her children?
sho’nuff
THAT One
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teewanna max
bubby
You must really feel threatened by this woman to spend so much time entering so many email addresses, and different user names just to trash her on a personal level.
the allegations about her house surfaced back in Oct. 2008. If they intend to bring charges, they will no doubt be thrown out like the other 15 bogus lawsuits/charges against her. if she did do something illegal, then she did the right thing by stepping down. But, until she is charged, she hasn’t done anything wrong, and your personal attacks on her and her family are pathetic.
lmao DEFINITELY threatened. Kinda’ like sKerry running for cover.
speaking of which, I think only fitting to post that little humor story in honor of Kerry and the Democrats.
So a Donkey walks in to the bar and orders a Martini.
The bartender asks, “why the long face”.
Then the donkey replies, I just learned I was a Jack Ass.
roflmao
hahhaah
You know, the first thing I thought when I read that she resigned on the same day that awful Vanity Fair article was a headline was that the Obama Democrats are going to incur the wrath of decent people everywhere. Even if you don’t think Palin was your candidate of choice, the Democrats dealt with her like a Mafia. Pols don’t think about running against the opposition anymore, they figure out how to destroy the opposition. No difference from living in a petty dictatorship–that’s why the hispanics feel so at home in the U. S. today.
Actually, Tek, I’m “hispanic” and I don’t like what I see happening to this country. In fact, many “hispanics” come to this country because they are fleeing the kind of governments and politics you are implying with your comments. BTW, some members of my family have served in the military and one gave his life in the Viet Nam War. Also, we are law abiding citizens who pay taxes, vote, and have the same concerns any other American has in this country. Your post makes it seem as if we “hispanics” condone the toxic political atmosphere this country is undergoing these days.
Furthermore, Tek, although graft and political corruption exist in Latin American countries, many US policies have supported Banana Republics set up to protect US & European capitalist interests. So it appears that the corporate interests are trying the same sh@#$t here in the US via political corruption, fascist leaders, and the the third-worldization of this country.
You are a delusional racist. Crawl back under your rock.
Who are you talking to, Mousey?
tek.
hey look at the mouse who tried to roar! isn’t that pathetic!
Someone add a “mousehole” to this site so anony can make his exit. I’d draw one in a la warner brothers if I had the technology. For now, I’ll just envision: anony mouse scampering away home. Bye bye!
A nony mouse .If you ar accusing me of being some other nationality other than Black and accusing me of being racistfor not liking OBABA …..let me inform you I AM BLACK!!!and I still don’t like OBAMA!!!!
People sure are strange,they so wanted this woman gone now she has decided to drop off the political radar they do not seem to be happy.
Guess they lost their daily punching bag, this air head that had to place in politics. One would think that so many in the media would be rejoicing at this news, but they all seem so confused at the moment.
I would bet anything they are all silently praying Sarah does not get any crazy thought in her mind to try and run against the great Obama, if she does not stand a chance in hell then why are so many so worried ?
Excellent points.
This move by Palin was a shear stoke of genius on so many fronts when you boil it all down, just look at the facts:
1-Over a month ago, Palin inks one of the biggest mega-projects in history with the pipeline deal, costing taxpayers nothing. But what comes from the announcement of it? Obama stooges like Letterman attacking Palin’s family with vile and stupid remarks that the media gobbles up and run with instead of focusing on the pipeline deal that will do great wonders for the economy and lead the way towards energy self-sufficiency.
2-As a sitting Governor, speaking out against Obama’s ill conceived programs will hurt the people of Alaska because Obama and his thugs will cut funding and make any funding needs by Alaska impossible to obtain. Need proof, just look at the restrictions placed on California.
3-As a sitting political figure and public figure, attacks need defending, which Obama et all are masters at doing, costing them nothing, but to defend costs Palin a fortune. Un-cuffed, and a private citizen, Palin now doesn’t need to defend, as the beauty of the courts is when someone slanders another, costs the slanderer a fortune in money and requiring to provide the burden of proof on the slandering statement, Letterman and CBS “BEWARE”!
4-Palin has a voice and can now attack every one of Obama’s lousy policies loudly as a private citizen. Obama’s thugs hate this because she does have a voice in the media and as of August a clear path to speak out against Obama and the Democrats freely. Don’t be surprise if she also becomes a contributor to Fox News, ahh the freedom of the press!
5-Palin has also ingeniously destroyed the abilities of Axelrod and his band of merry thugs from attacking her anymore and she now has the pleasure of completely attacking them as a citizen. She also has a record to back her up by cleaning up corruption in Alaska giving her the ability to attack Obama for increasing corruption in Washington when he platformed on cleaning up Washington. The only cleaning Obama did in Washington is to clean all the vaults of cash and replace them with letters of debt!
A person is not labelled “Barracuda” without reason, and this woman has proven she can withstand anything thrown at her unlike Obama who simply tries to destroy anything and anyone who throws anything at him!
Exactly. They just didn’t expect her to be so smart and now they are FREAKING OUT. lol
It’s just flat out stunning how delusional these comments are. “Expect her to be so smart.” Did you read her resignation letter? She’s an idiot. Secondly, it’s obvious as day that she’s running from something. A scandal will hit the fan in the coming weeks/months.
In a way I’m very sad that Palin’s political career is going down the tubes because I wanted her to be the GOP nominee in 2012 just because it would allow Obama to win in such a huge landslide. She’s unelectable in a general election – but the Republican base has become so small and so flat out crazy that they would actually nominate her.
Oh Nony be quiet, now Sarah can say what she wants about Obama and not have to worry about her office, she may not run but she sure can make Obama next few years a living hell and ensure that he does not win another term.
You people have your heads so far up where the sun don’t shine, so blinded by this Obama nonsense that you are now neck deep in crap but acts as if its sugar.
Imagine some in the media wants us to believe that Michelle is a fashion icon in the eyes of the world, yet there are hundreds of post on blogs all over the world asking if American’s are nuts.
This dream that Americans are trying to live in they better smell the coffee and wake up, its time and I do hope Palin gives them hell at every turn, this is exactly what this country needs someone not afraid to call it as it is.
Dear mouse is a louse. Watch for the coming ads on Tuesday. See how lots of USA feels about this administration.
Maybe Sarah knows things that will come out about your master hmmmmmm?
Maybe she knows that the truth will come out about his no citizenship? If that happens then 1 their is a new election or two McCain steps in as President. Think on that one. Biden is out too as he is “fruit” of the poison tree.
In the meantime look for those ads.
This is the second or third post about McCain/Palin taking over if Øbama were to be found to be ineligible for office and it’s incorrect. Biden would become President and, under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution (1967 I believe) he would nominate a vice-president and the Congress would vote Yea or Nay.
Amazing how the public school system can teach your kids about homosexual behavior but not how their system of government works.
Shhh….none of the bots will be able to sleep! Dreams of a Barracuda on the attack awaits them.
IMO–there is no opposition leader at this point but there are many, many unhappy Americans out here screaming at their government officials who refuse to listen. Some of those unhappy Americans are former bots!
Yeah, when I heard it, I thought maybe Sarah was going to be at the tea parties
BTW…since there’s going to be 10% unemployment and corporations are too afraid to hire through this period, the legislature needs to vote themselves pay decreases and give up all those fancy perks. How about no vacations and overtime? (Why isn’t the press following them around? Oh, forgot… we may only have two reporters left.)
Agree, agree, agree, mel. bho the fraud and his thugs squatting in the WH, Congress and corporate-owned media will look pretty lousy attacking a private citizen.
to all of the kool aid drinkers you might want to look back at a speech that they called the checkers speech and seehow well that worked out for the dems and the media.
I like that Sarah Palin supporters think that comparing her with Richard Nixon is a positive thing. It’s pretty funny. The real similarity Palin has with Nixon is scandal. Nixon resigned from the White House because of scandal just like Palin has resigned as Gov. because of scandal (it’s coming…)
On top of that the comparison with the checker’s speech is hilariously off base because at that time Nixon had been a congressman, a Senator, and a VP for 8 years. Palin couldn’t even finish one term as the Gov. of a small population state. Nixon was just “leaving politics.” Palin is QUITTING HER JOB. Huge differences there.
mouse, you wouldn’t know a great speech if it bit you on the arse. anyone who drools over obama doesn’t know shix about speeches.
Wow, this Mousy dude is OBSESSED with Palin, absolutely obsessed. Tell me, what is up with you? You are a joke. Please go back and stick your head back up Obama’s ass, just like the rest of the mainstream media. Keep it deep within the Obama orifice. That way you might be able to shield yourself from the absolute obsession you have with Palin.
Ha….even Helen Thomas said that Obama’s control of the press is WORSE than what Nixon wanted–and wasn’t able to do.
Just wait until the MSM starts smelling blood in the water and giving ‘anonymous leaks’ to the real press about the administrations attempts to control the media. You aint seen nuthin yet!
ANM–”coming scandal, coming scandal” My parrot has more original lines than you and less repetition. When this so-called scandal fails to materialize, are you going to come here and apologize for your slander?
I thought not.
It’s coming… ROTFLMAO…. ya, give Obama’s henchman time to think of a response just like always… go ahead… we are waiting…LOL…Can’t wait to hear this LIE about her. LOL. After all that has been said about her and her family, you expect us to believe something more. LOL.
I love watching the Obats squirm.
Go Sarah go!
If you think electing a man who is so dependent on a teleprompter he thanks himself is as you say “exceptional” then palin supporters can believe anything they choose.
Electing Jimmy Carter with a tan, who lies every time he opens his mouth is just fracking brilliant right? I hope you live somewhere NK missles reach.
Mouse, can we adopt you as our pet troll? Folks at NQ are actually pretty nice, and you’ll be well cared for.
my comparison, was on 2 points to Nixon’s speech:
1. She’s no longer in a place to be kicked around as standing target, she’ll be on the attack.
2. She like Nixon will eventually be elected President.
There’s no scandal coming, unless its how Obama’s people injected themselves into Alaskan politics and now might get caught with their fingerprints in it.
You know what else just pisses me off about her treatment – just because she was asked to serve on the Pres/VP ticket?
This could scare away many great candidates in the future! Women will have to think long and hard about stepping into the shit pile, and the abuse their kids will have to endure – because of what they saw happen to Palin. (and Clinton)
Yes, it seems like the overriding message has been this: if you are a woman and you presume to think yourself competitive for the highest offices in this land, you have proclaimed yourself “fair game”: you will be held to higher standards than men, and you will be attacked with exceptional viciousness by the media, and so will all of your family. Moreover, some of your most vicious attackers will be women.
word.
I agree. Not to mention she’s got the good ole boys trying to do “business as usual” in both parties. She’s getting attacked from the inside–clue from Sarah that she’ll support candidates of both parties.
We need to throw these leeches out of office.
yep…fire them all starting at the top.
“Moreover, some of your most vicious attackers will be women.”
As a woman that one fact shames me more than just about about any other aspect of this last year.
I hope she starts her own political party and runs in 2012. I am ready to leave the Republican Party after 23 years. The Democrat party is controlled by the far left anti-american radical organizations…ACORN, ACLU, LARAZA,….The Republican Party has forgotten it’s values and has equally sold out the American people. I believe there are allot of good hard working Americans on both side that are ready for a new party. This is why both sides are scared of her. They have all sold us out and they know their party no longer speaks for or represents America!!
Go Sarah you have my vote.
Jon S, speaking as having been a Democrat for over 40 years, I am ready to meet you in that middle ground and join you in a common effort to move America forward.
Yes, Jon and oowawa, the two Parties are losing voters to the center and this is what scares them witless. It is really a prime time for a third Party to emerge or, at a minimum, for all the centrists from both Parties to come together as a voting coalition. I guess Uhbama hadn’t counted on this kind of change.
Amen to that.
You are spot on, Jon S. Both parties have abandoned the idea of propagating what is the good for the country and have instead, based their platforms and groomed their candidates on what is good for the party, party leadership, or their well-heeled cronies. The Preamble to the Constitution does not being with the phrase “We, the Lobbyists”, “We, the Corporate Elite”, “We, the Entitled”, “We, the Republicans”, or “We, the Democrats”.
Sieg Heil!
Meant as IRONY
It was taken that way, AC.
Indeed, AC.
I probably should have added to the previous list, “We, the Ones Who Know What Is Good for You and will Give It to You by Force, if Necessary”.
I will be interesting to see if the liberal elite continue to go after Palin as a private citizen. If so, they will just become unwitting (or is it wittless?) surrogates for her presidential campaign.
Certainly they got me to donate to SarahPAC yesterday.
I still hear feminists put her down. Its ugly. I don’t like the snarky comments on NPR this morning by Scott, Juan, and other commentators. Its sexism dressed up in liberal bias. Don’t get me wrong. I am as left-wing and liberal as it gets. Like Sarah, though, I have worked as a woman in the non-traditional trades.
Its very difficult and one has to ask, “Is it worth it?”I am so turned off. This just makes it worse. Is there anyway to get a species “makeover?”
Nobody dislikes Sarah Palin because she’s a woman. That’s RIDICULOUS. Many of the people that hate Palin love other female politicians and political figures. This is the real reason liberals hate Palin: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/07/why-some-liberals-hate-sarah-palin.html
It’s not because of any of this crazy nonsense. There’s two big (real) reasons:
#1 She’s stupid & ignorant and she revels in that stupidity and ignorance. She represents everything wrong with America in that way.
#2 She reminds us of George W. Bush.
“Stupid”, “arrogant”, and “conservative”. Sounds like liberal non quantitative tantrum talk…
But what else can we expect?
I am so sorry I used to consider myself one of them. Now, I’m independent and can see the juvenile lower IQ aspect of the Democratic line of BS.
Mouse the louse, your #2 point is what you Bots said about Hillary Clinton. This is called projection. Ironically, it is Obama himself who is not only preserving, but expanding on GWB’s policies. In other words, he is phase two of the fascist take-over of this country.
As for #1, you Bots accused HRC of being a conniving smarty pants. Looks like you and your own have all the angles coming when it comes to women candidates. Face it, your Bros b/4 Hos attitude toward woman reveals your inner misogynist.
Geez… and all the liberals used to say it was the fat old white Republicans that were always putting the ‘little woman’ down.
I guess the liberal male true feelings are just now coming to light.
It’s so funny that the Obama haters can’t seem to decide on how they should hate him. Some say he’s just a continuation of George W. Bush others say he’s drastically changing the US into a communist country. These are diametrically opposing views but they are both being made loudly by Obama haters. I think that really says it all, right there. You guys need to get on the right page, because right now it comes off almost as incoherent as a Sarah Palin speech.
Well, dee-doo. I don’t hate Obumble nor do I hate you cultists, If, for a moment, you can maintain your miniscule focus for only a few extra moments, I’ll explain to you what That One represents.
Think, for a moment, Suzie Cream-cheese, of the political continuum as a straight line, with the extreme right fringe of the line being represented by the the Dick Cheney/George Bush groupthink and the extreme left fringe of the line as the Ted Kennedy/Al Sharpton groupthink.
Now take those two ends and place them together. This is where your agent provocateur resides. He has managed, with the help of shills like you, to combine the worst possible political attributes into a singularity, which by any other name would be black hole but using that term would unleash the Obumblebot banshee-like wails of racist.
perfect explantion….
Very good visual Ferd!
The momentum has shifted to the center.
Being Redefined as we speak..
The elitist’s on the left and right are going down.
Sarah represents the Anti-Elites and the regular hard working people of this country.
Never underestimate Sarah Palin as she represents the New Center with diverse viewpoints from all sides with the singular goal of saving this country and protecting liberty.
So true, Seattle–and more power to her. I’d rather have real persons with their own individual foibles than an entire army of Stepford politicians all droning the same claptrap in unison until it begins to sound like the hum of a well-oiled machine producing assembly-line, sterile gobbledegook for consumption by the dittohead bots.
seattle, i congratulate you, ferd and others for your detailed, excellent explanations to the bots. i for one don’t have the patience. it’s a tough job and all that!
Stodgie,
and we appreciate all the heavy lifting you have done in disposing of insignificant child bots not worthy a reply.
hey mouse, talk about hate? i didn’t like bush when in office but the more i see the dimocrats the better the past looks to me and that is saying a lot. i planned on voting for a democrat but when they ceased being that and became dimocrats in my mind, i’d rather drink acid than ever vote for a bunch of racists like them. that’s right ractist! when a goup votes for someone based mainly on skin color, they are racist. deal with that!
LOL I love this stupid comment… Sarah Palin is stupid and ignorant,yet she is/was the governor of a STATE and you are what? collecting welfare? Who is the stupid one really mouse?
Not only is she the governor of Alaska, she was the most respected of all the governors (and the most popular)at the annual governor’s meeting.
The only one stupid here is the mouse. Not to mention hate-filled.
And then there’s Maureen Dowd, the brittle old maid (apologies to decent unwed women out there…I’m trying to paint a picture.) who is only comfortable when she is maligning or just purely trashing someone. She needs to feel self important by filling these diatribes with seldom-used words, designed to humble the reader. It’s the only way she can make herself feel good, and Lordy, doesn’t that say a lot about the kind of miserable excuse for a human being she is?!
This website is dedicated to trashing the President of the United States. So your argument that Sarah Palin isn’t stupid & ignorant is that she was a Governor of one of the smallest states in the nation. OK… So if reaching a high political position automatically means that we should respect that person’s intelligence & knowledge – then why do so many here have so many horrible things to say about the President?
Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
It’s a collection of Palin’s “greatest hits.” This is clearly not a bright or knowledgeable woman. She got to where she did based mostly on her looks an her “you betcha” personality.
Not true. POTUS is actually TOTUS, which no one here has trashed, since TOTUS has its monitor overflowing in the vain and unappreciated task of reining in
That OneMr. Malaprop.Sarah Palin is neither stupid nor ignorant. Because you don’t agree with her political views in no way renders you capable of judging her. In fact it should disqualify you.
If, however, you want to have a dsicussion of what constitutes stupid and ignorant, we’ll be happy to concede your expertise in that area.
How can you watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E and pretend like she’s bright or knowledgeable? It’s preposterous. She’s clearly an extremely uninformed person who is at best of average intelligence.
ANM or whoever you are>>>
Yeah, and Barky wasn’t elected because he’s black but because had “qualifications”, having phoned in his previous Chicago “elected” positions…and don’t you all feel so good, self-righteous and sanctimonious about it!
1. She’ s not stupid & ignorant, she just doesn’t talk like you. Listen to her when she talks about her values, she’s clear. Take away Bambi’s teleprompter and lets see how smart he sounds. Harvard & Columbia will ask for his diplomas back.
2. I met GWB and yes was embarrased at how dumb he came across. I don’t think he was particularly bright but boy isn’t Bambi taking up most of the same side on many important issues. How dumb is that?
Presuming, of course, that he actually graduated from Harvard.
Things that make you go huuuummmm?
Many people dislike Palin solely because she is a woman: perhaps it has escaped you, but many of those who hate Palin also hate Hillary Clinton and often it has nothing to do with their ideology, which as you point out is not remotely similar.
This is one of the main reasons so many women who were Clinton supporters “inexplicably” voted for McCain-Palin instead of BHO: because the misogyny present as a cornerstone of his campaign made it obvious he was one of them.
They also voted for McCain-Palin as the likeliest candidate to defeat BHO, who stole the primary from Clinton and disenfranchised a million or so women voters in MI & FL by taking his name off the freaking ballot. That’s why I would never vote BHO, myself, though I did not vote for Palin.
Suggesting that misogyny plays a minor role is absurd. We’re on our 44th president and no woman yet, no matter what their ideology.
Mouse wrote: “She’s stupid & ignorant and she revels in that stupidity and ignorance. She represents everything wrong with America in that way.”
Actually, isn’t that pretty much the way the Obama administration feels about the American people in general? Judging by their actions so far, it would seem so. If not, why would Obama feel so safe and confident in breaking so many of his campaign promises? He feels safe, because the American people are “stupid & ignorant.” We probably don’t even remember what he promosed. Isn’t that really the way you feel, Mouse?
I would use this sentence in my lesson on literary devices as an example of oxymoron.
“something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements”
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oxymoron
rightagain, first of all understand that the dims in power aren’t really liberals. not in the sense that the democrats in the past were. they are stupid, arrogant, greedy, and don’t give a happy damn about the american people.
The GOP is dead without Sarah. as a conservatives woman how I can support them and I approve what they did to Sarah.
From Palin speech
And we are doing well! My administration’s accomplishments speak for themselves. We work tirelessly for Alaskans.
We aggressively and responsibly develop our resources because they were created to be used to better our world… to HELP people… and we protect the environment and Alaskans (the resource owners) foremost with our policies.
Here’s some of the things we’ve done:
We created a petroleum integrity office to oversee safe development. We held the line FOR Alaskans on Point Thomson – and finally for the first time in decades – they’re drilling for oil and gas.
We have AGIA, the gasline project – a massive bi-partisan victory (the vote was 58 to 1!) – also succeeding as intended – protecting Alaskans as our clean natural gas will flow to energize us, and America, through a competitive, pro-private sector project. This is the largest private sector energy project, ever. THIS is energy independence.
And ACES – another bipartisan effort – is working as intended and industry is publicly acknowledging its success. Our new oil and gas “clear and equitable formula” is so Alaskans will no longer be taken advantage of. ACES incentivizes NEW exploration and development and JOBS that were previously not going to happen with a monopolized North Slope oil basin.
We cleaned up previously accepted unethical actions; we ushered in bi-partisan Ethics Reform.
We also slowed the rate of government growth, we worked with the Legislature to save billions of dollars for the future, and I made no lobbyist friends with my hundreds of millions of dollars in budget vetoes… but living beyond our means today is irresponsible for tomorrow.
We took government out of the dairy business and put it back into private-sector hands – where it should be.
We provided unprecedented support for education initiatives, and with the right leadership, finally filled long-vacant public safety positions. We built a sub-Cabinet on Climate Change and took heat from Outside special interests for our biologically-sound wildlife management for abundance.
We broke ground on the new prison.
And we made common sense conservative choices to eliminate personal luxuries like the jet, the chef, the junkets… the entourage.
And the Lt. Governor and I said “no” to our pay raises. So much success in this first term – and with this success I am proud to take credit… for hiring the right people! Our goal was to achieve a gasline project, more fair oil and gas valuation, and ethics reform in four years. We did it in two. It’s because of the people… good public servants surrounding the Governor’s office, with servants’ hearts and astounding work ethic… THEY are Alaska’s success!
We are doing well! I wish you’d hear MORE from the media of your state’s progress and how we tackle Outside interests – daily – SPECIAL interests that would stymie our state. Even those debt-ridden stimulus dollars that would force the heavy hand of federal government into our communities with an “all-knowing attitude” – I have taken the slings and arrows with that unpopular move to veto because I know being right is better than being popular. Some of those dollars would harm Alaska and harm America – I resisted those dollars because of the obscene national debt we’re forcing our children to pay, because of today’s Big Government spending; it’s immoral and doesn’t even make economic sense!
Another accomplishment – our Law Department protected states’ rights – TWO huge U.S. Supreme Court reversals came down against that liberal Ninth Circuit, deciding in OUR state’s favor over the last two weeks. We’re protectors of our Constitution – federalists protect states’ rights as mandated in 10th amendment.
But you don’t hear much of the good stuff in the press anymore, do you?
Some say things changed for me on August 29th last year – the day John McCain tapped me to be his running-mate – I say others changed.
From Palin speech
I’ve never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this – to make a difference… to HELP people. So I choose, for my State and my family, more “freedom” to progress, all the way around… so that Alaska may progress… I will not seek re-election as Governor.
And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn’t run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks… travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade – as so many politicians do. And then I thought – that’s what’s wrong – many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and “milk it”. I’m not putting Alaska through that – I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? That’s not how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old “politics as usual.” I promised that four years ago – and I meant it.
It’s not what is best for Alaska.
Well, A-Nony-Mouse, I think you’re “stupid & ignorant” and that you actually “revel” in your stupidity and ignorance. So nyah nyah nyah.
Well, I guess in my stupidity and ignorance, I forgot to nest this as a reply to A-Nony-Mouse’s comment above. Oh well. This gives me another chance to throw in another “nyah nyah nyah.”
oowawa – actually the opposite is true, of course, but folks like yourself don’t let reality get in the way of your thoughts.
How’s that Vimax working out for you?
Anyone who calls Palin “stupid and ignorant” is only showcasing their own misogyny. The fact that you’d also waste your precious time here arguing this opinion of yours (tons of posts in the past two days) shows your obsession.
Actually, ANM, you are not just ignorant, but willfully ignorant in that you stubbornly refuse to see what is right in front of you: That One is a fraud who has used your trust to get where he is and who will abuse you as soon as you fail to be of use to him.
PE, perhaps anm’s apparent ignorance becomes more reasonable if we posit that it results not from a feeling of “trust” in BO but from the terms of an employment relationship. No one who reads and writes is that stupid.
You’re right. Trust is not the right word. But I do think there’s a certain amount of gullibility involved. Even smart people can be scammed some of the time.
PE, sorry, I meant, rather than assuming anm’s clinging ignorance derives from a bona fide faith in BO, it might make more sense to chalk this up to the fact, anm is being paid by BO to make a stand.
You have little room to comment, ziphead, with the echoes of shrill voices crashing about the shores of your empty skull.
Well, this an interesting spin on the Palin decision. I couldn’t figure out why McCain was so reticent about naming Palin as one of the “rising stars” when he was on Letterman. Clearly, she is though she needs alot of work to brush up on the nitty-gritty. But if this is all parlor games and political operatives are working behind the scenes then the next political season will be absolutely fascinating.
Palin may not be up to snuff yet, but I never bought into the meme that she was “a dumb hick.” And despite what the Far Left howls, Palin has the “x” factor. You can’t buy that. When it’s manufactured it starts to peel away, the way we’re seeing the Obama factor self-destruct after six, short months.
Interesting!
We just elected the “smartest” president of all time. We know that because he said so himself. We know he knows because Oprah said he was the one. Plus the guy has two books, and we know everything in biographies is true. Wow, we are certainly fortunate to have the one.
But when people wake up… not having a Harvard degree is going to be a major selling point.
Yes, Oprah knows all about truth in bios. Just ask her about James Frey.
I agree, Peggy Sue that she needs to work on the rough edges. However, between the national campaign and her recent accomplishments as Gov., I’d say she probably is doing the right thing by giving herself some breathing room and time to study + refine.
As a Bot, Mouse the louse, your knee-jerk reaction to brand Tek a racist is soooo predictable. I’d first like to hear Tek’s clarification of his comments before going off the deep end and branding him a “racist.”
If Palin quitting her job was such a great move, why didn’t anybody suggest she do that beforehand? This reminds me of McCain suspending his campaign in September. All of these people on No Quarter said what a great move it was- after he did it. May I be sarcastic? This will really help Palin! Americans love a quitter!
And are any of you paying attention to the reason Palin Gave?
Right, so all those other Governors and Presidents who finish their terms are the bad guys? Didn’t she also quit the job she had before this?
Yeah, RK, she resigned from that other job and moved on to win the governorship of Alaska(becoming the most popular governor of the US) and managed to snag the VP spot in ‘08.
Yep, some folks resign in order to move on to other things. For example, Thee One quit his gig as Community Organizer in order to become a State Senator. Then he quit his gig as State Senator to become a U. S. Senator. Then he quit his job as U. S. Senator to become President. It happens. Thee One might have quit some jobs he had before the Community Organizer position, but I’m not sure there were any other jobs before that. The record is vague.
Heh, “the record is vague.” Google is your friend.
On the substance, there is a huge difference between (A) resigning your elected position after being elected to a higher office and (B) quitting your elected position in the middle of your term without having been elected to another position.
So there is a huge difference between “resigning” and “quitting”? Yes–”resigning” has 9 letters and sounds fancy, “quitting” has 8 letters and has a stigma attached to it. As long as you have connived your way upwards, into yet another position for which you are unqualified, your “resigning” is sanctified, right?
You KNOW there’s a difference between a mid-term resignation and a resignation to take higher office. Had McCain/Palin won, neither you nor I would call them “quitters”, and we wouldn’t hold it against them that they resigned from their elected positions to take over their new ones.
And seriously, “the record is vague”? Obama’s academic/professional/political timeline is right there for you to read about. Try Encyclopedia Brittanica online.
Slim– you’re so sold on Google that you must already know they supported That One in last year’s race. So you must also know that when a subject is typed in, the hits that come up first are those favorable to That One. If Google is really your friend, why don’t you try reading more than just the first 3 sites to pop up? You might learn more than you bargained for…
I suggested Encyclopedia Britannica. Or are they part of your crazy conspiracy, too?
Why do you think everything is a conspiracy? LOL
He, doesn’t. YOU DO. The stuff you’re saying is crazy!
hey suzie, imagine you calling someone crazy. pot calling kettle black! by they tell why did you vote for obama. color??? it can’t be because of anything else. oh you fell for the rap routine dissing women. or are you really a woman. names mean nothing! i bet it was the american idol generation mentality. surely you can’t add or you know that obama is doing more damage than bush ever did. shock!horrors! get the smelling salts. suzie has fainted!
PE, read my reply to your comments on anm, above. It applies equally to ST. (Hmmm, maybe anm = ST.)
There is a similarity in speech patterns, isn’t there?
I guess there’s only one Obot working due to the holiday.
ST: Obama has NOT allowed any of his academic records to be released. Who cares about a timeline? That has nothing to do with exposing those records. Don’t you wonder why?
Are you not the least bit curious that he has continues to hide those records? Does he have a less than stellar academic record? It seems to me that he refuses to allow a lot of pertinent information about his past life to be viewed. I call that suspicious!
Elizabeth, it is one of your compatriots who “cares” about the timeline, as they claimed that his professional work timeline was “vague.” I was simply answering a direct point.
I’m not concerned about Obama’s academic record, because I know enough about his record based on two big data points: (i) he attended a top undergrad and law school; and (ii) he graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School (that’s top 10% at a top 2 or 3 law school).
So, yea, I think it’s crazy to think he wasn’t an academic achiever. Comments from his law profs back that up, and he was also a professor at a different top law school.
And you know what? I don’t see you demanding Palin’s academic records; and I’m not demanding them either.
Not sure why you feel the need to fight such a basic fact: Obama has had academic success in life.
Also, Obama was never a “professor,” as many of his Bot supporters like to claim. This title requires “tenure based on peer reviewed scholarship, publications, teaching, community work, etc.).
Obama was a “lecturer,” at best (perhaps even a lowly instructor).
These are the titles given to academics according to their rank with “professor” at the top:
Professor
Associate Prof
Assistant Prof
Lecturer
Instuctor (graduate students)
[I think my last posting with this info didn't make it through, apologies if duplicative]
You are VERY wrong on this point, trixta. From the statement by the University of Chicago Law School on this very point:
You don’t even know what you’re talking about, trixta.
Slime Tyranny, both my husband (Professor Emeritus and I, a PhD Candidate) are in academia, so I do know what I’m talking about.
And thanks! Your article proves my very point! First of all, its use of the term professor (”served as professor”) is not just sloppy, but downright misleading. This article is using the term in a dishonest fashion to prop up their homey. Indeed, as cited in this very article Obama’s teaching record does NOT show that he held any of the official ranks of a Professorship. Instead Obama was ranked officially as a Lecturer (1992-96) & then a Senior Lecturer (1996-04) at the U of Chicago Law School.
2. That Obama declined invitations to join the faculty in a tenure-track capacity, proves that he strong>did not hold the official title of Professor, but rather kept his Senior Lecturer status (for whatever personal reason).
3. Being a member of the faculty and “regarded as a professor” is fine and dandy (such collegiality is common at universities), but it does NOT mean that Obama held the official title of “Professor.” He was a Senior Lecturer, and that’s that. Until Obama’s official teaching record shows otherwise, I stand by my argument.
Slime Tyranny, both my husband and I are in academia, so I do know what I’m talking about.
And thanks! Your article proves my very argument! First of all, the use of the term professor (”served as professor”) is not just sloppy, but downright misleading, since it is a dishonest attempt to puff up Obama’s resume. In fact, as cited in this very article, his teaching record does NOT show that he held any of the official rankings of a Professorship. Instead Obama was ranked officially as a Lecturer (1992-96) & then as a Senior Lecturer (1996-04) at the U of Chicago Law School.
2. That Obama declined invitations to join the faculty in a tenure-track capacity, proves that he did not hold the official title of Professor, but rather chose to remain a Senior Lecturer (for whatever personal reasons).
3. Being a member of a faculty and being “regarded as a professor” (such collegiality is common at universities), does not mean that he held the official title of “Professor.” He was officially a Senior Lecturer, and that’s that. Until his teaching record shows otherwise, I stand by my argument.
Slime Tyranny, both my husband and I are in academia, so I do know what I’m talking about. First of all, the article’s use of the term professor (”served as professor”) not only is sloppy, but misleading, since the term is used to puff up dishonestly Obama’s resume. Furthermore, according to this very article, Obama’s teaching record does NOT show that he held any of the official rankings of a Professorship. Instead Obama was ranked officially as a Lecturer (1992-96) & then as a Senior Lecturer (1996-04) at the U of Chicago Law School.
2. That Obama declined invitations to join the faculty in a tenure-track capacity, proves that he did not hold the official title of Professor, but rather chose to remain a Senior Lecturer (for whatever personal reasons).
3. Being a member of a faculty and being “regarded as a professor” (such collegiality is common at universities), does not mean that he held the official title of “Professor.” He was officially a Senior Lecturer, and that’s that.
Until his teaching record shows otherwise, I stand by my argument.
And only a part-time lecturer at that.
Google must’ve let Slim down on that one.
Notwithstanding he never published any academic papers, he was hired as a lecturer at a law school that was recently discovered to have sold admission to unqualified students for former Governor Blagojevich. LAW SCHOOL SEATS FOR SALE Oh, wait a minute, that was U of IL School of Law; BO taught at U of Chicago Law School, even though he never wrote a scholarly legal article, let alone published one. His wife was given a job at the University of Chicago Hospitals. Hmmm. I anticipate the truth of the Obamas’ arrangement with that institution will come out eventually, too. MO LEAVES U OF C
don’t forget jbjd that michelle no longer practices law. wonder about that myself! having served on the same type of board as michelle regarding that real estate deal i have some questions about that as well. answers would be desireable however no one in the media asks the questions now do they!
and how did he get in Harvard? affirmative action as an AA? Which he may well NOT be. Or was it because of the letter written for him by Muslim extremist?
Yes, this question keeps bothering me; and also the question of who was pulling the strings at Harvard when the editorial board selected BHO as editor, and a bit later who was behind the scenes when the hiring committee at UofC selected Obama out of the pool of applicants and how did his name get in the picture in the first place–in fact, was there a pool of applicants for the position or was it created especially for him in order to give a specious credibility to this otherwise undistinguished person?
Why are his records sealed? Why is his birth certificated sealed in a vault?
You’re right on target again. And let’s have a full disclosure of medical records; trips to what countries under what passports and aliases, etc.
No, Google is your only friend.
By the way, the record is not verifiable and is therefore vague, at best. Since you have no reading comprehension, you once again lose, Slimer.
LOL, ouwawa! Perhaps BO will resign the presidency to become King of the world.
The best thing that could happen to this country is either:
Obama, Biden and Pelosi are jointly indicted and removed instantly from office. Hillary Clinton becomes President; or,
Hillary and Sarah join forces and form a third party of responsible Leadership and take out the good ole boy parties in 2012!
I vote for the 2nd option!
Hillary/Sarah 2012
hillary is a great person and politcan. i wish her and us the best.
And just to take the lead away from the Dems and Repub, we might as well just jump in and call it the C*nt Party!
Can I join too? I hear that there are lots of T-Shirts left over from the O campaign that we can probably get for cheap . . .
She’s as dumb as a bucket of hair….but she’s sooo hot!
Yeah, you said the same thing about Obutthead.
billy, i’d say you are the one dumb as a bucket of hair. maybe you are jealous of her success and future.
Stodgie, I think the bucket of hair may have the edge on this one.
Palin has balls that’s for sure. Why be a Republican governor when there is no Republican Party anymore?
Soon there won’t be a Dem party either. Just a bunch of corrupt a-holes led by the biggest a-hole of them all.
The glory that was Rome…
She has courage. I’m certain she doesn’t have balls.
If we’re being literal, I assume you mean she has the “courage of one’s convictions”, which may or may not be true.
I would tend to think that would mean sticking things out in her elected post, barring any extreme extenuating circumstances, even with the daily barrage of negative coverage.
No, if this truly is a move not motivated by some brewing scandal in order to separate herself from a political party in disarray, I’ll stand by my equally figurative description.
I do agree that she has been treated often very unfairly.
Well, Michelle said this was a mean country. I guess she would know. There was one perfect man once… and they crucified him.
I lost all respect for Muchelle in that interview when she hemmed and hawed about supporting Clinton if she were the Democratic nominee for president. That was enough for me to know M. Obama was a piece of garbage. Here is the video for those who may not have seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOVHf9HPEJM
A really disgusting display by M. Obama. I have hated the Obamas ever since.
She’s behind all the thuggery. She has some great thug contacts including Vanity Fair.
We have to get MEchelle from behind the curtain and show what she is about to the world.
Check out Maxine Waters who’s is in cahoots and a bona fide socialist..we have such a corrupt bunch in congress it is killing us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrA9zj94NuU
I never forgot that interview either — I really still have a tough time with the way things have turned out…..
What Palin’s Really Up To. (Hint: She Wants To Fight.)
Posted: 03 Jul 2009 04:58 PM PDT
Assuming there is no scandal shoe about to drop, to understand what Gov. Sarah Palin is doing, we ought to begin by taking her at her word. I readily admit that her statement today wasn’t terribly clear, which is quite telling itself: she doesn’t quite know why she is doing what she’s doing, ALL CAPS notwithstanding. She can’t explain it to herself, and so she certainly can’t explain it to others. But it’s not that complicated to get the gist: she’s “not retreating,” she’s advancing. Palin, in Alaska, is a sitting duck for the people and forces she believes are ruining the country. She can’t fight back — she can’t protect her family, her values, her worldview — while she’s governor. At the same time, her desire, perhaps conscious, perhaps not, to get into the mix — to be invited to the fancy Washington dinners, to be courted by these very forces — is irresistably pulling her towards the very fight she seeks.
Don’t make the mistake of assuming that Palin has a grand strategy that relies on subterfuge, prestidigitation or rhetorical concealment. She has few close advisers, and she is prone to ignore their advice. She keeps her own counsel. She believes what she says (and implies): that she is a national political figure, that her destiny (and I think she capitalizes the D) is in the continental 48, that her personal characteristics are mocked by the elite because the elite cannot understand them, that her family and children are subject to relentless, negative and highly damaging personal attacks, and that there is no longer a place for her in the Alaska government.
I think that about sums it up. And why, pray tell, should she outline a stragedy for the MSM? She’s wise enough not to feed them too much but let it all unfold in real time.
oops, strategy
Here’s what Governor Palin should do after she hands over power to the Lt. Governor after July 25.
Schedule a press conference in front of the White House. She should bring along her Idaho long-form birth certificate, and an independent officer of the court who can verify the authenticity of the document. Then announce the following:
“Here is my long-form birth certificate from Idaho. President Obama, where is your long-form birth certificate from Hawaii? The American people have a right to see it.”
Wow, this would be incredible. Please please Governor Palin, do this. Obama will crap his pants.
That would be “incredible”, you’re right about that.
You really think Palin joining forces with the birthers is the right move? hahaha
Birthers? What are you talking about? It is a really simple issue, really. Can you answer this? Why has Obama not produced the long-form birth certificate? And why has Obama not produced his college records? Can you give a rational explanation for this? A rational person would be led to the conclusion that he is hiding something.
You can keep referring to “birthers” all you want. Are you a birther as well? I am not. If there is such a movement, I know no one in it. Tell me about them. I have no clue what you are talking about.
Obama produced his birth certificate. The fact that it is a “certification of live birth” versus a “long-form birth certificate” is irrevelant.
His COLB is a state-issued legal document that contains, among other information, the pertinent pieces of information for a presidential candidate: his place of birth and his date of birth.
This legal document states he was born in Honolulu and is old enough to be elected. He is a US born citizen. That’s all that matters.
So, yes, he did, in fact, produce his birth certificate. You don’t know that, or deny that, because you apparently buy into the conspiracy theory on Obama’s birthplace (making you a “birther”).
I am not a “birther”, because I embrace reality.
Sorry, you’re wrong. The “birth certificate” that Obama posted online is not sufficient evidence of his being born in Hawaii, for people born outside of Hawaii can still received the short form. Only the long form verifies true Hawaii birth.
Any by the way, you didn’t answer the questions. Why has Obama not produced the long-form birth certificate? And why has Obama not produced his college records.
Sounds to me like you are indeed a birther. I am not however. I know no one in such a movement. But it sounds like you keep up with it a lot.
No, you are wrong. The Hawaiian government will NOT issue a COLB that states false information. You cannot go into Hawaii and ask them to create a COLB that states you are Hawaiian born when you were not, in fact, born there.
Seriously, you’re plain wrong on the issue. The head of the Hawaiian Department of Health and the Republican Governor of Hawaii have both stated that his COLB is in good order and states correct information.
As for “why isn’t he producing the long-form”, well, he produced WHAT IS NECESSARY to prove his US birth. And what happened when he did that? Crazy people claimed (i) it was a forgery, (ii) it was faked by the Hawaiian government, (iii) it’s irrelevant because of other reasons (bad con law arguments re: natural-born citizens), etc. etc. etc.
So he proved the basic facts to normal people, and the howling crazy conspiracy theorists want more? And it’s clear that they won’t even be satisfied with the long-form birth certificate?
So I assume he is laughing at the crazies and satisfied that he proved the relevant truth. It’s what I would do, too.
WHY DO YOU WANT THE LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The COLB is BASED on the long-form, they will both say “Honolulu”. What’s wrong with just accepting this simple truth.
College records? Who cares? Palin, McCain, Biden didn’t produce them, and no one cared. Yes, academic performance is a fair thing to take into account when choosing a President — but it’s clear that vast majority of the country was satisfied with the obvious information out there (Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law, con law prof at Univ. of Chicago Law, etc. etc.).
“Birthers” are the ones who believe this nonsense, you have it backwards.
And yes, I enjoy keeping up with the birthers. They are my favorite kind of crazy conspiracy theorists.
Actually, they only said they had his BC on file. They never said it matched the one online.
The COLB, by definition, MATCHES the long-form birth certificate on file. That’s how the COLB is generated — it is information FROM the long-form birth certificate.
Therefore, if the COLB says “Honolulu”, then the BC on file says “Honolulu”.
And that’s what the head of the Department of Health said — they have the long-form on file, and they issued the COLB in accordance with state policies and procedures.
Unless, of course, you’re saying that the Hawaiian Department of Health is in on your conspiracy.
LOL!
All I know is Obamba’s Kenyan nana is a liar then. She’s been talking about his birthplace there when she witnessed his birth.
Oh, the thing I love about this OPOTUS is that he is arrogant and self-centered enough to drag this out, costing thousands (if not millions) on litigation rather than producing the BC.
You’re wrong about the COLB. I guess I’m a “birther”. I guess you’re a “non-birther”.
I am right about the COLB. It’s pretty obvious truth, so it takes a lot of crazy to think otherwise.
And yes, you are a birther — you’ve embraced a crazy conspiracy theory rather than accept reality.
That’s weird on your part, but hell, there are people who also think the moon landing was faked, the Holocaust never happened and George Bush was behind 9/11. And that’s just recent history. People just love conspiracy theories I guess.
How can Slime Tyranny be a “Birther”? It wasn’t born, it was hatched.
You do have to wonder why the b/c was sealed after he made one of his trips to Hawaii when Granny was dying. Seems as though that was a lot of effort if it reveals nothing…certainly more effort than simply releasing it to scrutiny.
How do you spell P H O T O S H O P? It has been proven to my satisfaction that what was shown on his site and others was a F A K E.
You’re absolutely insane. Why would Hawaii have birth certificates for people not born in Hawaii? “Birthers” are the craziest people in the damn world.
holy shit! suzie you are definitely off your meds! going down the rabbit hole fast is see. honestly get some help. you are embarrsing yourself on here. frankly you are not a good troll at all. i’ve seen much better.
Poor Slim,
You’re not to bright…Ever seen a Backlash Revolution..
Sarah represents the Newly Disenfranchised and any attack on her is an attack on me.
As Obama was a symbol of anti-Americanism Sarah represents the opposite phenomena and forces are now gathering to counter the Marxists and freedom haters.
Sarah over the next year is going to surprise you in that a coalition of freedom loving Americans are going coalesce around her leadership.
I guess you just don’t get how angry we are.
When you hang Sarah in Effigy you are hanging me.
When you trash Sarah’s family you’re trashing me.
When you burn Sarah’s Church down you burned mine down too.
Sarah by representing the 28 founding principles of freedom which include Natural Law and the belief in a higher power beyond government and who will champion Professor Levin’s teachings on Liberty and the constitution and will counter the Alinsky and Cone radicals.
By 2012 folks will be using Obama’s middle name in disgust to address him as Obama becomes Ayers, Wright and Chavez.
We’re taking this country back from scum like you.
Heh, so hostile. I love how much drama you can work up over a democratically elected President.
And trust me, I get how angry you are. It’s part of what is so amusing.
Here is how bad it is for you…
When I think of liberals…I see Perez Hilton!
Now that’s what I call amusing!
What you think of isn’t that interesting.
Your come back gets an F
Funny how you’re just as wimpy as you were a year ago when I was predicting the Obama collapse and the retreat and defeat foreign policy that you defended so awkwardly.
I love predicting shit!
Hilton is the liberals downfall
Pitchforks anyone!!!
Ha! Ha!
hahaha I want to find your predictions about how Obama would never get elected. I’m sure they exist.
How HRC would beat him in the primaries, and then how McCain would beat him in the GE.
Yeaaaaah, the Obama doomsayers have been wrong for years now.
and hahahahahaha your argument hinges on Perez Hilton? BWAAAAA
You can always buy or steal an election…That’s the easy part.
Having To Govern and being exposed as to how you got elected is the hard part…
You have no concept of nationalistic pride and self preservation.
The fact that we are even having this debate means clearly that the America we grew up in is under assault and all that we hold precious could be gone.
You can pretend to laugh and Hilton obviously is but a caveat in this fast developing movement.
Momentum has changed!
As Obama implodes along with the entire environmental movement and his Rolex commie buddies in Hollywood.
As we watch the existing economy crash farther do to obscenely ignorant and shameful policies in the depth of an ongoing crash.
As we see the rise of food riots and ObamaVille’s throughout the land
Read your History…Even you can figure out what happens next.
Heh, such high drama. I’m sorry you disagree with the outcome of a democratic election. But don’t worry, thankfully are you are completely overreacting, and most of the rest of the country is sane and reasonable.
p.s. my favorite part is when you lashed out against “the entire environmental movement” and “Rolex commie[s]“. Awesome.
I happen to know a lot more than you do on the subject…
My family has been in the oil/alternative energy business for 50 years.
I understand about boom busts because I have lived them.
When I saw oil go to $150 last year I knew it was going to collapse as it did in 82 and 85.
I had my wife pull all her investments in cute alternative energy companies.
Sure enough as times before, oil collapsed along with alternative energy market..
When I got my degree in Urban Planning with natural resource management I was going to change the world with exactly what liberals say today. That was back in the 80’s when we had money and a financial system to make these changes…Not now
Suvival of the fittest at whatever costs worldwide…
Don’t like Economic Darwinism…Get out of the way!
Slim..I never did get that job in Planning..They told me that I was the wrong color and sex…I’m a victim of discrimination like a lot of people including Hillary.
I’m glad I never got that job with the city because running a plastics company that makes products you got to have for survival but the liberals hate is so sweet.
Your life story is boring, but thanks for sharing
But please, since you know soooo much more about these topics, tell me more about these Rolex commies!
You’re the one kissing their feet so how should I know
I only hang out with hard working people that love America.
Slimbob… Why don’t you share with us more about those Mercedes Marxist’s you hang with..
hahaha you have such a cartoonish view of your fellow Americans.
Seattle the onl;y thing I “got to have for survival” is the “good wind” at my 6, a hunting rifle and crossbow and a place to hunt.
Meet you here a while before Slim figures out that the grocery store is empty.
We can run with the Bear, this guy can run with his mouth.
I wish ‘em Happy 4th anyway.
Yet ta hey.
Slogans have a way of sticking.
The last segment of the economy to crash long after commercial real estate and the service sector will be the Hollywood elite and all the fashion and glamor along with them.
They live in the last bubble.
The Hollywood/Obama/Media Bubble.
Like times before…Those that need to eat and survive and have seen their jobs and way of life disappear will look for scapegoats.
Pity Obama..He should have been president 3 /2 years from now as I have suggested.
Instead he will represent the whirlwind of backlash.
That’s why you should never game an election…
Bad Karma!
Beautiful! LOL
I noticed this Obot uses the word “drama” a lot. I’m just waiting for this misogynist to say drama queen.
No matter your wishful thinking, I’m not a misogynist. But hey, thanks for the assumption!
Ouch! Snappy comeback!
Hey, Bambi wrote his resignation letter…see below! Maybe you’ll get a position outside of the “ones’ anal orifice.
I think the two LA guys who hanged Sarah in effigy tipped the scales on Prop 8. They were so happy with themselves. It is backlash. Overall, people don’t like to see the sorts of vile, vulgar attacks made by the jaded Dems toward a woman whose only crime is challenging them by running for office.
I agree, Moss. Hilton is really ugly inside and out. He’s going to get his.
Perez Hilton is an idiot. He’s just as stupid & ignorant as Sarah Palin. The difference? Nobody thinks Perez Hilton should be President.
say slim! you are so skeered that you have a brown spot showing on your pants! clean your act!
The USA was founded as a Republic. This was done to keep the masses from treading on individuals rights. The Constitution is being shredded by O and his ilk.
The Constitution requires a president to be natural born for a reason. Most of us know and agree with this. If you love and wish to uphold what this country was founded on why don’t you stand with us and demand the same standard that John McCain had to be held to?
Holy crap, you’re nuts. And it’s so sad that you folks are rallying around this empty empty woman, Sarah Palin. I mean for God’s sake. That’s just so pathetic it’s hard to imagine anything more pathetic. She is ignorant & stupid. She makes GW Bush look like a real thinker in comparison. It’s just amazing that someone so empty and with so little political skill is the hero to this group. It’s basically a celebration of stupidity and ignorance.
holy moley! suzie! you are a pathetic stupid piece of work who self righteously gets on here spreading manure for the worst president ever elected. the election part is open to question. now i know that you think your alinsky approach here will work, but we laugh at your stupidity, arrogance, and lack of infomation. all you do is spout obama propoganda.
palin is a threat to ole zero and that scares the shit out of you and your worthless gang.
It’s hilarious when you folks keep saying that people are “afraid” of Sarah Palin. No. She is an *extremely* weak general election candidate. She could possibly win the GOP nomination – but that’s only because the people who remain as Republicans are absolutely nuts. All of the normal people left the party.
actually suzie sarah is an excellent candidate and she makes speeches without a teleprompter also. she knows how to dress which is more than michelle will ever know. she is smart and open with her background and ideas while the obamas hide everything from the real reason michelle is no longer an attorney to obamabi real birth information. listen, thanks for playing but you don’t get a doll. we keep the change.
suzie! thanks for showing us how naive, young, and poorly informed you are. i like playing tennis with pros and not poorly informed poor sports such as yourself.
Right On
slim pickings as in there is much there anyone might want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m equally frustrated on the stonewalling on the BO eligibility issues. As proven by the many attacks to your comment, the cool-aid drinkers have to learn the hard way as their savior lets them down one lie and action at a time. It is so ironic that the intellectual elite has proven to be unteachable.
As for Palin to enter this “birther” foray, I think it would be a mistake. Ron Paul wouldn’t risk being the laughing stock of Congress, even though I believe that he believes, as I do, that BO is a fraud. Others are wrestling in the mud over exposing him.
No, Palin will not have to destroy BO to win; BO will destroy himself. I am confident of that just by the hysteria of his supporters over Palin’s jail break from Alaska. They want her safely outside the lower 48, busy answering trumped up ethics violations and then will site her for accomplishing nothing for Alaska, much less the country.
As Ann Coulter recently wrote, “There’s a reason there’s no ‘Stop Olympia Snowe before it’s too late!’ movement.”
What has happened is these institutions have evolved into virtual concentration camps of those who are adept at memorizing and regurgitating facts for the purposes of exams. Our school curriculum now revolves around passing standardized tests, if not the rote memorization of answers from test prep cram sessions. Our colleges base entrance on scores attained in these tests. These tests are based primarily the regurgitation of memorized facts. This would do you well if you were playing Jeopardy. If you need to take information you know and use it to critically think… a lot of these super intellectual types are lost. Call it “book smart” for short. Some of the most ignorant people I have ever known in my life were “book smart”.
how did Obama get a US passport without a birth certificate?
This is who is doing all the behind the scenes work trying to take Palin down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmMRu81R-_c
It’s the NWO, actually.
I really didn’t believe a lot of that conspiracy stuff until I saw this election and the results thereof. Palin is being taken down by the elite because she is not in their pockets. Obama is a puppet who is simply forwarding the agenda that Bush started. How much clearer can this be when he is supporting “prolonged detention” and whatnot? Obama is no true liberal – he’s a fascist in disguise.
People who buy into progandanda FOR Obama and the anti-propaganda AGAINST Palin are simply being played by the shadow government. I’ll support Palin precisely because she’s not an elite, Harvard grad, Skull and Bones, spoon in mouth politician.
Palin letter to supporters
Happy 4th of July from Alaska!
On this Independence Day, I am so very proud of all those who have chosen to serve our great nation and I honor their selflessness and the sacrifices of their families, too.
If I may, I would like to take a moment to reflect on the last 24 hours and share my thoughts with you.
First, I want to thank you for your support and hard work on the values we share. Those values led me to the decision my family and I made. Yesterday, my family and I announced a decision that is in Alaska’s best interest and it always feels good to do what is right. We have accomplished more during this one term than most governors do in two – and I am proud of the great team that helped to build these wonderful successes. Energy independence and national security, fiscal restraint, smaller government, and local control have been my priorities and will remain my priorities.
For months now, I have consulted with friends and family, and with the Lieutenant Governor, about what is best for our wonderful state. I even made a few administrative changes over that course in time in preparation for yesterday. We have accomplished so much and there’s much more to do, but my family and I determined after prayerful consideration that sacrificing my title helps Alaska most. And once I decided not to run for re-election, my decision was that much easier – I’ve never been one to waste time or resources. Those who know me know this is the right decision and obvious decision at that, including Senator John McCain. I thank him for his kind, insightful comments.
The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.
I shared with you yesterday my heartfelt and candid reasons for this change; I’ve never thought I needed a title before one’s name to forge progress in America. I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint. I hope you will join me. Now is the time to rebuild and help our nation achieve greatness!
God bless you! And I look forward to making a difference – with you!
Sarah
Bambi letter to supporters
Screw Independence–from Chi-town!
On this Independence Day, I am so very proud of all those who have chosen to dismantle this miserable nation and I honor their selflessness and the sacrifices of their families, too.
If I may, I would like to take a moment to reflect on the last 24 hours and share my thoughts with you.
First, I want to thank you for your support and hard work on hiding the values we share. Those values led me to the decision my family and I made. Yesterday, my family and I announced a decision that is in my best interest and it always feels good. We have destroyed more during the past 7 months than most Presidents can do in two terms – and I am proud of the great team of speech writers, corrupt officials, foreign dictators and my wife who have helped me destroy the principles on which this miserable nation was founded. Energy dependence and national insecurity, fiscal extravagance, bigger government, fewer jobs and absolute control and swift fly-swatting have been my priorities and will remain my priorities.
For months now, I have consulted with friends and family, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, the Obots on Twitter and foreign dictators to find out what is most destructive for our mean country and I even made a few changes in the speech that was transmitted over the teleprompter. We have accomplished so much and there’s not much more to do, but my family and I determined after a luau that sacrificing my title helps the World the most. Once I decided that America is small potatoes, my decision was that much easier – I’ve never been one to waste time or arugula or a trip on airforce one. Those who know me know this is the right decision and obvious decision at that. including Chavez, Castro and Ahmadinejad. I thank them for their kind, insightful comments–books and ideas.
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The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, controlled, and as always, following my desire for the “politics of personal destruction”. (How sad that Helen Thomas and Chip Reid had to fall out of line once. I’ll get even, don’t worry!) America and free-thinkers will never understand; it’s about the WORLD. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands that I’m bigger than this two-bit country and that I have to do what’s wright (oops…I mean right) for me and the WORLD.
I shared with you last year my heartfelt and candid reasons for HOPE and CHANGE; I knew I needed a title to steamroll over my the middle class and take a jaunt on AF1 with my biggest donors over the Statue of Liberty, buzzing Manhattan. I have now determined that being POTUS is just chump change. I am now looking ahead and determined how I can advance myself, my feeble minions, my foreign donors and corrupt cronies. Now is the time to move on to a bigger pond–and help me achieve greater worship and greatness!
God Damn America! And I look forward to making a difference. Please join in celebrating my advancement to POTW (President of the WORLD).
Bambi
Nobama, that would be funny if it didn’t sound so, so true. But, seriously, what I get from Sarah’s letter is that she left for “a higher calling”. What that will be is up to conjecture right now,she isn’t telling.Letting the MSM, their paid punditry and O croonies squirm and sweat for awhile. It’s amazing how she is playing with them, and they are not even smart enough to realize it. And she is the dumb one?
Any other thoughts everyone?
I hate to say it, but I just read Maureen Dowd’s column about Sarah Palin. They are all so lost and confused! I think the few people who really “get it” are those of us peons watching our own financial ruin and the serfdom that this administration wants to leave our children.
If I’ve got it right, she may be on her way to attracting those maggots for publicity for a cause greater than just Alaska. I hope they continue to eat her alive–her popularity continues to soar every time they take shots.
The opposition has clearly needed a leader–and I’m thinking it just might have found one.
mouse leaves and here comes slim pickings? hmmmm! the obits won’t get holiday pay from the big zero!
I have read many of the politicalpundits on this one. Few have impressed me .
My take is that SP attracted much opposition during her Vp thing. In more times people lay off presidentiallosers & everyone gets on with their lives.
This time they have kept at it & increased the hate till it not only shadows her everywhere -even to charity baseball games but is affecting the running of Alaska.
By exiting she has freed Alaskans from the effects of organized hate . The Deputy Gov can get runs on the ground for 2010.
EVERY governor in the US is in a dangerous & unstable climate. Almost every state is in debt (check the international AAratings).
Civility & politics is taking a downward turn in the USA. Governors will be the next target.
Nice picture Teak..
Isn’t that a picture of Mt. McKinley?
oh wait…Denali sorry!
From that spot it is a 4 day “truck” to the base of Denali.
NEW YORK TIMES CO. v. SULLIVAN, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)
Someone sited the case in this thread. What I can’t tell is if the Governor was “made to stand aside”. from the constant flamethrowing upon realizing her ability to protect the reasources of Alaska were severly hampered or ambitions kindled by exposure to the national stage gave her a taste of other avenues that hold purpose.
What ever the case, the law needs to looked at in terms of the current state of communications.
What is being overlooked is the fact that such pressure was brought to bear that the Office of Governor of a state in this union was brought to a point of resignation by “slander”. Who / which state is next?
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/07/statement-from-gov-palins-legal-counsel.html
Statement from Gov. Palin’s Legal Counsel on Defamatory Allegations
The following statement was issued by Gov. Palin’s legal counsel, Thomas Van Flein:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 4, 2009
On July 3rd, 2009, Governor Sarah Palin announced her intent to resign her gubernatorial duties and transfer the powers of Governor to Lt. Governor Sean Parnell.
Almost immediately afterwards, several unscrupulous people have asserted false and defamatory allegations that the “real” reasons for Governor Palin’s resignation stem from an alleged criminal investigation pertaining to the construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex. This canard was first floated by Democrat operatives in September 2008 during the national campaign and followed up by sympathetic Democratic writers.1. It was easily rebutted then as one of many fabrications about Sarah Palin. Just as power abhors a vacuum, modern journalism apparently abhors any type of due diligence and fact checking before scurrilous allegations are repeated as fact.
The history of the Wasilla Sports Complex is publicly known. Contrary to the insinuation that as Mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin “personally” oversaw bidding, construction, funding and accounting for the project (and thus, the allegation goes, “embezzled” from the project), the truth is far more mundane, and publicly available:
………..
To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as “fact” that Governor Palin resigned because she is “under federal investigation” for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation. This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law. The Alaska Constitution protects the right of free speech, while simultaneously holding those “responsible for the abuse of that right.” Alaska Constitution Art. I, Sec. 5. http://ltgov.state.ak.us/constitution.php?section=1. These falsehoods abuse the right to free speech; continuing to publish these falsehoods of criminal activity is reckless, done without any regard for the truth, and is actionable.
OMG what this mean?
Another complete idiotic move by Palin!
Abandoning the state of Alaska in their hour of need.
Genius!
Actually juvenile is the only word that comes to mind!
Redefining the term “when the going gets tough the tough get going!”
Gov Palin fights back
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/04/from-palins-lawyer/comment-page-2/?action=late-new
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/07/statement-from-gov-palins-legal-counsel.html
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 4, 2009
On July 3rd, 2009, Governor Sarah Palin announced her intent to resign her gubernatorial duties and transfer the powers of Governor to Lt. Governor Sean Parnell.
Almost immediately afterwards, several unscrupulous people have asserted false and defamatory allegations that the “real” reasons for Governor Palin’s resignation stem from an alleged criminal investigation pertaining to the construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex. This canard was first floated by Democrat operatives in September 2008 during the national campaign and followed up by sympathetic Democratic writers.1 It was easily rebutted then as one of many fabrications about Sarah Palin. Just as power abhors a vacuum, modern journalism apparently abhors any type of due diligence and fact checking before scurrilous allegations are repeated as fact.
The history of the Wasilla Sports Complex is publicly known. Contrary to the insinuation that as Mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin “personally” oversaw bidding, construction, funding and accounting for the project (and thus, the allegation goes, “embezzled” from the project), the truth is far more mundane, and publicly available:
Curtis D. Menard was instrumental in spearheading the effort from conception to realization of the Wasilla Sports Complex. He directed the steering committee that was responsible for placing the issue before the voters of Wasilla and Wayne Barrett, a writer for the left wing Village Voice, published these insinuations, on October 7, 2008 in a story entitled “The Book of Sarah” available at http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah.
This was written in the style of one pretending to be amazed that so many people in a small town like Wasilla appear to know one another, support one another, and take on big projects together. Apparently that is uncommon in New York. Rather than recognize that leaders of a community often mobilize to accomplish projects, the writer offered this up as an unusual and questionable association of special interests.
To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as “fact” that Governor Palin resigned because she is “under federal investigation” for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation. This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law. HA
Oh boy I love it, now lets see how many are going to be so brave to keep running their mouths on this woman and her family.
Now that she is no longer going to hold political office and become a private citizen, some should be very cautious as to what they say or write about Palin and her family or she will become a very rich woman and fast.
Sue every single one of them Sarah its about time this nonsense stops.
Considering all of the baseless crap spouted off about President Obama on this website I find it pretty hilarious that you guys want folks to be sued for saying things about people without proof. Hypocrisy overload.
hey suzie,shut the fxxx up! get your sorry arse back to sliterland!
Good argument there. My point remains. Hypocrisy overload. If people are going to get sued for spreading lies about politicians then many of you are screwed for what you say about Obama.
again, since you are such a paragon of virtue, put out your real name and i’ll make sure sarah’s attorneys get it. we’ll have a reality check about what is spreading lies and what isn’n. you are the one making threats on here telling us we are all screwed. that’s real interesting. come on since you are out there, go all the way.
You’re totally missing my point. *IF* it were truly against the law to say unsubstantiated things about politicians than many of the people on this website would be breaking the law in regards to what is said about President Obama here. I don’t see why you think it’s OK to say unsubstantiated things about Obama, but not OK for another website to say unsubstantiated things about Palin?
Obviously I don’t think any laws are broken in either case. You can say whatever the hell you want about Obama (even if it’s totally senseless BS based on lies, fantasies, & conspiracy theories) and someone else can say whatever they want about Palin.
This is how I’m not being hypocritical. I have one position: Freedom of speech always wins. You, on the other hand, are being extremely hypocritical.
yawn! is that the best you can do? dang, that’s really a non starter, suzier. you are going in a verbal circle saying nothing and making no points.
i highly recommend if you have a sincere desire for real discourse that you come here with a different attitude and show some courtesy. ask questions and then answer only after you have actually read and understand what they are saying to you. of course, you won’t do that. we all know that. i don’t go to obama leaning sites for a good reason. so why are you here? to insult everyone is the answer. back at ya!
I’m just wondering if we ever said anything about “O” that wasn’t true? LOL
I don’t think reporting on Obama’s many FLIP-FLOPS and BROKEN PROMISES – things that are public record – falls under the province of “unsubstantiated.”
The only dubious thing I ever saw covered here was the alleged whitey tape, and Larry always said it was alleged.
The rest of the Obama stuff is QUITE substantiated. You’ll notice that No Quarter pretty much sticks to Obama’s public actions and record. Do you see Larry Sinclair covered here? Nope. So you are totally confusing CRITICISM with SLANDER.
When I get on Obama’s case for promising to get us out of Iraq and then keeping us there and getting us deeper into Afghanistan, that’s CRITICISM.
SLANDER would be publishing an unsubstantiated blog hit piece claiming Palin is resigning over a federal investigation that does not exist. So yes, she has every right to go after those people, whereas Obama has no right to go after NQ.
These distinctions, however, may be lost on the simple-minded.
Suzie Q, I am now, for the record, calling BO out as a traitor and complicit in seditious acts against the constitution of the United States and other federal laws.
1) he is not a Natural Born citizen.
2) he is guilty of fraud
3) He is a chickenshit of the first order.
BO, Come down here and sue my ass for libel slander or any other thing wants. IN FACT I beg him to…HE WILL LOOSE.
All opinions of this post are mine alone and do not reflect NQ’s positions.
Now come down here and sue me….I am waiting.
Sara, I guess we know why she resigned now. It would be hard to proceed with lawsuits as governor. I hope she has Sullivan on her list of things to do.
Sue the pants off them Sarah. Good to clean out the debris and purify the air before taking on your next challenge. Set the boundaries and anytime they violate them, call in your pit bulls.
The shoe is going to be on the other foot. And it couldn’t happen to a better bunch than Huff & Puff, MSNBC, and the other alphabet channels. And, I mean that in the nicest possible way. Sic ‘em Sarah and make them eat s**t. Wish you hadn’t accepted Lecherman’s “apology” because I’d love it if he could be #1, followed by the fruitloops on MSNBC, one at a time.
Do you really think David Letterman can be successfully sued for telling a joke? WTF?! Do you realize we are in the United States of America? Have you ever heard of freedom of speech? This is nothing but a bluff by Palin. It’s just to build up the myth she is working on (Sarah Palin vs. Liberal Media) to rally the GOP base.
hey suzie,clearly you don’t think so buzz off! do you realize that slander is open to lawsuits ole dimwat!
Any frivolous lawsuit she files will be thrown out of court and she’ll end up having to pay all court fees for the defendant. She’s just doing two things (1) trying to bully people into not reporting the truth about what she’s up to (2) trying to rally her base by building up the “sarah palin vs. liberal media” story.
actually no she won’t because she is going to win if and when she chooses to file. now as for being bully, that is your forte! she doesn’t have to try and rally her base. they are already rallied. listen thanks for playing but you don’t get a doll. we keep the change.
She won’t win any such lawsuit if she were to file it (which I’d be highly surprised if she did actually do so.) This is, like I said, just an idle threat designed to excite a certain population. She’s a fringe figure who appeals to a fringe audience. She’ll do quite well for herself financially and that’s may be what all of this is about (she’ll end up with a show on Fox “News” most likely)
fringe person? poor suzie! i almost feel sorry for you. obits are really scared of her. poor, poor suzie!
push an idealogue of any stripe and they’ll show you what they are. thanks for playing, but you don’t get the doll. wel keep the change.
No one on the left is afraid of Sarah Palin. We think she’s a hoot and we’d love for her to become the leader of the Republican party and the GOP nominee in 2012. It’s our dream. I (and many other Democrats I have spoken to) plan on voting for her in the primaries (in states like mine the primary is open so you don’t have to be a registered Republican) in 2012.
She has an extremely strong appeal to the hardcore base of the Republican party, but you see – this is a very small group. And her strong appeal to them is part of what makes everyone else think she’s sketchy (along with her obvious lack of intelligence.)
She would get demolished in a general election. The GOP would be better off with… well I don’t know who. I don’t think there’s currently anyone that can beat Obama even if he’s looking weak by then..
there you go suzie, showing your butt again! we don’t want to see it! uggg!
Please do vote for her in the general primaries. You totally underestimate her appeal. I have friends like you – insular liberals who are under the mistaken impression that the rest of the country is as trendily “progressive” as you are. And yet, Palin managed to pull a crowd of 20,000+ here in California during the election in the middle of Obamaland.
After inflation sets in and people realize Obama’s spending is really hurting the economy, people will be ready to vote him out and any Republican will have a good chance in 2012. So you shoot yourself in the foot here. I warned my friends that bringing Obama in might bring in a “worse” Republican in 4 years – I’ll frankly be relieved it’s Palin.
BTW – It’s only liberals who already hate Republicans and who’d NEVER vote for a Republican anyway that are the rapid anti-Palin people. She can afford to not get the support of the likes of you – you wouldn’t vote Republican even if God himself were running in opposition to Obama. But the moderate people are very much open to her.
Wake up little Suzie q. Do you read or listen to anything?
Obama backtracks:
FISA vote
Public Financing
Faith based initiatives
Gay rights
Indefinite detention
Releasing detainee photos
Tax hike pledge
Lobbyist ban
Mountain top mining
Re-negotiating NAFTA
Military tribunals
Unemployment is still growing. Where are the jobs he promised? He’s going to tax health care. Before the summer is over, we will be taxed on gas, food and every other necessity.
I don’t see you defending Obama so much anymore. You just want to follow along with the crowd and be cool and you don’t care if a woman is getting hurt in the process. You are a little sexist piglet and all of us will pay a price for your stupidity.
Yeah, there is nothing left to defend except their love for their cool Messiah.
Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.
really – I am not a republican – and I would vote for her….
SuzieQ, as spokesperson for “all of the left and all democrats” you may wish to note that I like Palin, and that I am not a Republican and never have been one.
I find that people who reference Governor Palin’s “obvious lack of intelligence” are generally stupid themselves.
Also, you may wish to contact your handlers. Use of the word “sketchy” may not be approved phraseology for the spokesperson of “all of the left and all democrats”.
Racism and the stupidity of the electorate you personify so well may buy us back to back terms of The Obama. I certainly hope not, the writing is on the wall for this administration, and it ain’t pretty.
The left has indulged in a form of legal terrorism against the Palins. It costs so much to defend against frivolous lawsuits and nearly nothing to file them. As a public figure, and governor it is hard to sue for defamation. Now as a private citizen, it will be easier. But, I wonder about the kids. Can the Palins get a guardian to handle the legal matters of the kids and pursue Letterman types for the attacks of libel made against the kids. The kids are minors and aren’t public figures. Certainly the insinuation made against the 14 year old would be hard to defend against? Further, it may be a criminal act by the letter of the law to make these insinuations against a minor child. Fight fire with fire. Go ACORN on their *ss. Thus could be very fun. Cloward Piven the fools with the legal system. Use their own weapons against them and twist legalities upon them and tie them in knots… force legal tort reform, media reform and political reform in one David vs. Goliath shot.
You are right Suzie we are in the USA and we are also know to be a very sue prone society, we sue persons butts for the littlest things.
Telling a joke is one thing, but defamation of character, causing injury to ones good name, lies and half truths that can cause one mental anguish, hardship, stress whatever is not allowed in this country regardless of freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech does not mean a free-for-all on a persons character just because you support Obama or want to damage anyone that does not.
Bet you will never see an article or even hear a joke calling Obama’s kids retards, or one saying his girls have sex in a dug out at half time, bet if that happens Obama’s lawyers will have a field day on someone, so what makes Palin so different that she cant do the same?
Letterman may be guilty of a federal crime. Making a sexual comment about a minor on television violates FCC regulations:
If the FCC determines that the complained-of material was obscene, indecent, and/or profane, it may issue a Notice of Apparent Liability (NAL), which is a preliminary finding that the law or the FCC’s rules have been violated. Subsequently, this preliminary finding may be confirmed, reduced, or rescinded when the FCC issues a Forfeiture Order.
One hopes at least that they try to sue Letterman: maybe the next POFS like him will think twice, if only for the inconvenience of the lawsuit.
ummmmmmm I think the Fairness Doctrine they are talking about passing will stifle freedom of speech. That may come after they get the guns. Feds are already going house to house now looking for guns. Does anyone else think the rash of drive by shooting may be stage craft? Seems like a lot of them are aimed at “the community”
unfortunately, that sounds entirely plausible
I hope she succeeds with a lawsuit agains msnbc; those slimy bastards deserve to be buried so deep they never see the ligth of day again. I am appalled at the number of hateful people on this thread; why don’t you go back to HuffPo where you belong before you get sued. Go Sarah…bury them in debt.
Aww! Poor Sarah! She’s going to sue everyone who tells the truth about her.
suzie, why don’t you tell us your real name and we’ll make sure sarah gets in so she can let her lawyers know about you. come, suze, you are all mouth of here. put up or shut the fxxx up!
Suzie Q, judging by your comment, you misunderstood the purpose of a slander/libel suit, which is to extract a monetary penalty from the Defendant liar, so as to 1) compensate the Plaintiff for the harm done by those lies and 2) punish the Defendant for telling lies (punitive damages) making telling lies so costly, the liar ceases and desists.
Just got back from a wonderful barbeque where we were celebrating what is left of this great country!
We wanted to make sure we were around for the last 4th of July!
God, Please Bless America, and save us from the pathetic excuse of a President that we are now having to suffer through!
CAROL HAKA
I do cot care if she runs in 2012, though I do seem to like her. I just want her to get out there and scream against all of the Obama bull. I want someone who is not afraid to tell the world that he is destroying this country. I want the spending to stop. Where is pay go? I want the deficits down. I want my country back. I have been a blue dog all of my life but after Obama I switched parties, I will never vote democratic again. I am scocially liberal but fisically conservative and this has broke the camels back. I will vore for republicans every time now. This is it Done with the democratic party.
kmr, there is no democratic party but there is a dimocrat party. i don’t care to do anything for them except vote them out of office forever!
KMR I felt the same way today, because of Hillary/Bill I supported the Dem until this election, after seeing all that I have, after looking on and reading all that I have, I can never support the democratic party again.
I have never thought I would see all that I have from these so called democratic supporters as in this election, and now what I have seen Palin and her family go through, nope never again will I vote for or want to be associated with people like this again, its unbelievable to think this was the nastiness they had kept hidden for so long, sure makes the Republicans and their supporters look like saints.
I know a few will probably scream at me for this comment but here goes….
Has any noticed that we have not heard anything from Bill in ages, mostly since Hillary made that deal with Obama so she could be SOS. Sorry to say this guys but I think Obama is shutting them all up piece by piece…
I think that Obama and his team are a modern day J Edgar Hoover..(If you know the story behind the Hoover and all the stuff he had on everyone you know what I am saying).
I noticed too.
What if Pres. Clinton was free to say what he thought? What if SOS HRC was a Senator? How far do you think “O” would get with his crazy agenda if the Clintons were on the outside? I don’t think they expected it but “O” is keeping his enemies closer.
Bill knew he was dealing with a Chicago thug.
confused american, i am wondering if hillary just might be resigning as sos. i note she isn’t going to russia. if ole zero thinks he’ll have more success with putin than bush he is in for a big letdown. i hope she does resign. of course we need her, but if she can’t accomplish anyting, why stay. i bet bill has clued her in that the big zero has no long term future.
stodgie I always felt that Hillary hurt herself and future with her allignment with Obama..Campaigning for Obama was explained away because of the party but SOS was so easily explained away.
I actually hope you are right and that its not to late for Hillary to repair herself and run in 2012.
2012, now wouldn’t that be interesting!
She is not going because that would upstage BO from getting his international street creds…
Even having SOS Clinton in the same room makes BO look like the shill he is.
Every choice the crap head makes is based on his ingrown ego.
Hillary won’t resign unless she is asked to by BO. At this point I would read SOS Clinton between the lines.
Let’s not forgot, the Repubs wrote the playbook for the politics of destruction in the 90s when they were after the Clintons, and they brought us the neo-con GWB. The Dems have now become what they’ve hated all along.
LOL oh here is another one….. billyboye….. you are about as smart as maggots in a s**thouse.
And what is your occupation? I’m sure its not anything close to being a governor of a state or a former vice presidential candidate.
I love these goons who say how dumb, stupid blah blah blah Sarah Palin is but yet they don’t disclose their occupation…….. probably doesn’t even have a job…. Once again, who is the stupid one billyboye? pathetic smarma
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I’ve been listening to Tammy Bruces podcast. Do you realize the bastards over at the Huffington Post posted and pulled down an article about Sarah Palin contributing to the retardation of America. If there was every any doubt in my mind about liberals being the lowest form of life…if being an exceptional person means picking at children with down syndrome…we don’t need exceptional people in this country.
I’m delighted that Sarah Palin is stepping down from the governorship, so that she can address the many accusations and insults that have been hurled at her and her family. Alaska will do fine with her indirect support. Also, the Republican Party needs her energy, focus, honesty and good ideas.
The frantic and hysterical response from the Dems only indicates she is a threat to them. BO is disappointing everyone, but the most delusional of his followers. His lack of experience, maturity and wisdom, not to mention his narcissism, pig-headedness and lack of class are doing him in. Celebrity and fame never have staying power….I’m looking forward to Governor Palin’s taking on BO and his messing around….
People can accuse Governor Palin of all sorts of things, but that doesn’t make a single charge real. On the other hand, I look forward to the day, when BO is “investigated.” I would be happy even to see any documentation of his life. If he hasn’t so much to hide, why does he consistently refuse to give access to any of his personal papers? And his allegiance appears to be to the financial institutions that got him elected; not to the people. Governor Palin’s record is clean, so the Dems have to make up stories to cover their butts….It’s basic duck and dodge for the Dems….
Agree, agree, agree, ACPD.
This immature, mean-spirited, misgoynistic, fake elitist attack on one woman and her family is humiliating our country, shredding our sense of decency and dooming our democracy. We must keep researching and exposing all the facts about the Wall Street barons, the corporate oligarchs, the foreign financiers, the media sellouts, the political puppets and anyone else who sold his/her soul to put an anti-American narcissist anywhere near OUR WH. We need more down-to-earth, “ordinary” Americans like Sarah Palin to remind us who we are.
545 people are telling 300 MILLION Americans what to do? That is 435 House of Representatives, 100 Senators, 9 Supreme Court Justices and 1 squatter in the WH. We the People are letting 545 “ordinary” Americans ruin our country???? Time to fight for the Declaration of Indpendence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for the 21st Century.
Go, Sarah, Go!
Go, Hillary, Go!
Go, We the People, Go!
I hate when I read some people saying Sarah made a political mistake, I have heard this on FOX by so many. Exactly what was she to do in their eyes?
Was it better for her to sit there take all the jokes on her family, look, read and listen to them call her last child a retard, accuse her of embezzling funds, sit and wait for the media to make her into some kind of dumb bimbo that have no clue as to what is going on in the world.
Was she to sit there and take all that because she wanted to serve the people, yet the people did not appreciate her service, or even her acceptance to run as McCain’s VP, in the hope of giving America more?
I know I could not do it, and why should anyone have to accept that kind of abuse from anyone. What was done to this woman was ugly, and shame on all those who are now accusing her of cutting and running, I would like to ask them all if they would of settled for that kind of treatment just to say they hold an office?
Clinton did.
The day I saw that video of Palin with the perceived whine remark, I lost any sympathy for Palin herself, though my sympathy for her children remains and I believe any comments about children should be off limits.
Nom, I saw that video where Palin talks about how it looks bad if women “whine” about the sexist attacks, and I didn’t take it as her attacking HRC per se. But now that she has gotten a taste of the full on sexist and misogynistic treatment she is singing a different tune — and I applaud her for it. Because calling out misogyny and defending oneself from it is not whining.
I’m glad she has changed her mind and sorry at what it took to make her change her mind. I definitely don’t support misogynistic attacks on any woman, not even those whose politics I don’t like, and I’ve always taken Palin’s part when this occurs. The misogynistic genie isn’t going back in the bottle.
But until I hear the apology to Clinton, I still won’t have sympathy. That whine remark was used against Clinton in the primaries: Palin did her part to make sure Clinton wasn’t the candidate she’d run against, I don’t forgive that, even though Clinton probably does.
Clinton went and accepted to be associate with the same people that were slamming her daily, the same people that swore that if she was VP they would leave the party.
Not only did she embrace them she went all over the place asking voters to accept them, to overlook all that was done and said.
Yet you want to come on here and speak about Palin, at least Palin is wise enough to say to hell with it and stand up for herself, not to swallow crap and say ok I will live with it because I so need political office and to be one of the gang.
Hillary should of never left the senate to side with Obama, look at her now she is lost in some backroom where she is not even noticed, once in a while Obama gives her a token gift and allow her some press coverage, guess you would admire Palin also if she does the same.
I don’t support Clinton’s choice to become SOS and I wish she had stayed a senator: although I don’t think she’ll run again, if she does, I don’t plan on voting for her as a result of her having joined this administration.
That is, however, a separate issue from Palin’s stabbing her in the back.
How did she do this? Palin was given the VP spot long after Hillary had dropped out of the race. HRC had already thrown her support to BO at the Dem convention . In fact, McCain chose Palin as his VP right after the Dem convention on Friday, which stymied any bump BO might have gotten from the convention. This is one reason the Bots were so angry, since Palin took the spotlight away from their Messiah. As I recall, during the Repub convention and on the campaign trail Palin gave credit to HRC for cracking the glass ceiling, etc.
speech about whining occurred in March 2008. She was undermining Clinton in March, 2008: that’s not before primaries ended.
Nom, I’m referring to this part of your post:
Did Palin know she would be VP in March? I don’t believe she did. I recall she was chosen for VP immediately after the Dem convention. And her “whiny” comments were used by the Dems in their campaign against HRC. I don’t believe Palin used them against HRC while she campaigned against BO in the GE. As I recall, she was rather complimentary of HRC during the GE. (Even McCain himself defended HRC against some of the sexism coming from the Obama camp.)
But look, we can disagree on how we interpret Palin’s original comments. I would be interested to see how Palin would respond to her own comments now that she’s been subjected to some of what HRC has gone through for decades. But I’m happy to see that she’s not taking her own advice by fighting back. Imagine if she and HRC teamed up on a national symposium concerning sexism and misogyny (sponsored by the NEW AGENDA) in our culture today. This would be very exciting to see!
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