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“‘barack obama is a big fat liar’, illustrated” times two - UPDATE

I read two great posts from NRO, Barack Obama Is a Big Fat Liar by Jim Geraghty, and ‘Barack Obama is a Big Fat Liar,’ Illustrated, by Guy Benson.

Geraghty writes:

Ever since Barack Obama declared his candidacy for president, it’s been easy — and great fun — to spotlight when his promises and statements come with “expiration dates.” The list is long: Public financing. Renegotiating NAFTA. His promise to support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies. His inability to disown Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The release of detainee photos. Denouncing Turkey for genocide.

Flip-flops are nothing new in politics, but every once in a while, a president breaks a promise or an important pledge on such an epic level that it defines him, at least in part: “Read my lips: No new taxes.” “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.” “We did not — repeat — did not trade weapons or anything else for hostages — nor will we.” Even “I will never lie to you.”

Barack Obama’s sudden about-face on taxing employer-provided health insurance deserves to rank among these classics.


He goes on to talk about how “Obama spent $44 million attacking McCain for an idea that Obama no longer opposes“. Read the rest here.

Guy Benson takes the article a step further, and illustrates with video the flip flopping and attacks by Obama, regarding the issue of taxing employer-based benefits.

But now the White House — desperate for revenue — seems to be changing its tune:

In early October [Obama] went even further, calling McCain’s plan “so radical, so out of touch with what you’re facing, and so out of line with our basic values.”

On Capitol Hill, however, Democrats have long liked the idea as a new form of tax revenue. Obama’s relentless denunciation of the proposal would seem to preclude his signing it into law, but “would seem to” is not “does.” Back in March, White House budget director Peter Orszag said taxing employer benefits was among several ideas that “most firmly should remain on the table,” and some congressional Democrats told the Washington Post that White House officials said Obama would accept such a tax “as long as he didn’t have to propose it himself.”

Finally, during Wednesday’s p.r. push for his health-care plan, Obama refused to rule out the proposal that he once said made John McCain unfit for office.

I went back and found a number of the ads Obama ran against McCain on this front. The impending expiration of this particular campaign promise is especially galling when one actually views the ads themselves — bearing in mind that the risky, out-of-touch, unaffordable, deal-breaking healthcare policies these ads ruthlessly targeted are now on the brink of being embraced by their one-time chief critic. Marvel:

Benson posted these must see videos:

One Word;
Can’t Explain;
Presription Ad;
This last one’s especially laughable in light of this story” - It Gets Worse;
Finally, for good measure, here’s top Obama strategist David Axelrod explaining on Sunday why “formulations” may force his boss to, well, change his mind.” - Obama Won’t Rule Out Middle Class Tax Hike.

But the story doesn’t stop with taxing employer-provided health insurance and McCain. Obama spent quite a lot of time attacking Hillary on mandates, an idea that he says he could now support.

Acknowledging that his thinking on the issue has “evolved,” President Barack Obama says he could support a law mandating that individuals purchase health care coverage, with fines for those who do not, but he stressed that there must be some kind of waiver for those who are simply unable to afford it.

People have made some pretty compelling arguments to me [Hmm perhaps like Hillary did all during the primary???] that if we want to have a system that drives down costs for everybody, then we’ve got to have healthier people not opt out of the system,” the president said in an exclusive interview with ABC’s Diane Sawyer today on “Good Morning America.”

During the election campaign, Obama said he was opposed to a federal law mandating the purchase of health care coverage. But earlier this month in a letter to Congressional leaders working on the reform legislation, he said he would consider supporting such a measure, if it has room for exemptions for small businesses and individuals who cannot afford the premiums.

Obama would not say if he was open to taxing health benefits, but indicated that there was a breaking point in the balance sheets where he would say that the cost of reforming the system is too great for the federal government to handle.

Obama even went so far as to attack Hillary’s efforts from 1993.

He’ll run his own Henry and Louise ads?? He did, remember?

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Susan covered this last year, Krugman: If Obama Is President, There’s No Chance for Universal Health Care

And many of you probably remember this:

The Wages of HillaryCare

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama agree on most policy issues, but that makes their rare differences all the more revealing. To wit, their running scrap over Mrs. Clinton’s “individual mandate” for health care, which Mr. Obama has now had the nerve to expose for its inevitable government coercion.

Mrs. Clinton’s proposal requires everyone to buy health insurance, along with more insurance regulation, a government insurance option for everyone and tax hikes. Mr. Obama likes all that but his mandate would only apply to children. He argues that the reason many people aren’t insured is because it’s too expensive, not because they don’t want it. Mrs. Clinton counters that coverage can’t be “universal” without a mandate.

But then Mr. Obama had the impudence to defend his views. His campaign distributed a mailer in key primary states that claimed the Clinton plan “forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can’t afford it.” It also featured an image of an anxious couple at a kitchen table. The Clinton apparat went apoplectic, claiming the flyer evokes the famous “Harry and Louise” commercials. A common article of liberal faith is that this “smear campaign” doomed HillaryCare in 1994 — as opposed to, say, its huge cost and complexities. But never mind.

Obama repeatedly attacked Hillary Clinton and John McCain for their healthcare plans, and NOW he is moving towards embracing their proposals. Why? Because what he is trying to do is damned expensive, and THEY knew that. He didn’t. The very idea that he is now considering incorporating their plans just goes against everything he campaigned on. The hours and hours of debates discussing healthcare reform…. his constant arguments and attacks. His cockiness and assurance that his plan was the best, and Clinton and McCain were wrong…. It just shows how little he knew, and how willing he is to break a promise.

From Time Magazine:

On Tuesday, Obama himself sounded almost resigned that taxing health benefits is now front and center in the health-care debate. “This is something that’s going to be debated in the House and the Senate,” he told the Virginia audience. “[Virginia Senator] Mark Warner is going to have to weigh in on it. We’re all going to have to weigh in on it.” The President says he still wouldn’t go as far as McCain proposed and completely eliminate the current exclusion on taxation of employer-provided health benefits. (McCain would have offset that with a tax credit of up to $5,000.) But Obama is indicating a new willingness to go at least part of the way there.

“Nobody at this point is — or not many folks — are talking about taxing benefits or completely eliminating the exclusion,” Obama said. But he noted that taxing benefits above a certain point — citing, as an example, $13,000 a year — would have some benefits in holding down costs overall. “If you get some Cadillac plan that costs $17,000, then what we’re going to do [under this scenario] is you’re going to have to pay taxes on that last $4,000,” Obama said. “And the idea that is being debated in Congress right now is, Is that a good way to ensure that people don’t have these big Cadillac plans but instead have more sensible plans?”

The major reason lawmakers are considering taxing these benefits for the first time: there’s a lot of money involved. Depending on how it is structured, a tax on the most expensive benefits could bring in hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office has estimated. But it would be a politically treacherous move that would not affect only the wealthy. Many of those generous health plans are also part of union contracts — and in many cases were negotiated in lieu of higher wages — which means Obama might have to go back on his campaign promise not to raise taxes on those earning less than $250,000 a year.

Today, from the Wall Street Journal:Senate Seeks to Pare Tab for Health Overhaul

A revamped Senate bill aimed at improving the nation’s health system would cost $611 billion over a decade, congressional number crunchers estimate, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago.
But the total cost of the health-care overhaul is likely to increase substantially once a key element to expand insurance coverage is added in.

Senate leaders on Thursday unveiled fresh details of legislation aimed at carrying out President Barack Obama’s plans to cover the nation’s 46 million uninsured. The new provisions call for all but the smallest employers to provide workers with health insurance or to pay the government an annual penalty of up to $750 per employee.

From the Washington Post:

Senate Democrats and President Obama, trying to assuage fears about the cost of health reform, yesterday touted new estimates that put the price tag for one bill at $611 billion over the next decade.

But the measure drafted by the Senate health committee falls far short of Obama’s goal of providing insurance to virtually every American. Analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, released in a letter yesterday, shows that it would cover just 39 percent of uninsured Americans in 2019 — or about 21 million of the 54 million people expected to lack coverage if no change is made.

Shikha Dalmia, for Forbes, wrote Obama’s Top Five Health Care Lies, and here are the top two:

President Barack Obama walked into the Oval Office with a veritable halo over his head. In the eyes of his backers, he could say or do no wrong because he had evidently descended directly from heaven to return celestial order to our fallen world. Oprah declared his tongue to be “dipped in the unvarnished truth.” Newsweek editor Evan Thomas averred that Obama “stands above the country and above the world as a sort of a God.”

But when it comes to health care reform, with every passing day, Obama seems less God and more demagogue, uttering not transcendental truths, but bald-faced lies. Here are the top five lies that His Awesomeness has told–the first two for no reason other than to get elected and the next three to sell socialized medicine to a wary nation.

Lie One: No one will be compelled to buy coverage.

During the campaign, Obama insisted that he would not resort to an individual mandate to achieve universal coverage. In fact, he repeatedly ripped Hillary Clinton’s plan for proposing one. “To force people to buy coverage,” he insisted, “you’ve got to have a very harsh penalty.” What will this penalty be, he demanded? “Are you going to garnish their wages?” he asked Hillary in one debate.

Yet now, Obama is behaving as if he said never a hostile word about the mandate. Earlier this month, in a letter to Sens. Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., he blithely declared that he was all for “making every American responsible for having health insurance coverage, and making employers share in the cost.”

But just like Hillary, he is refusing to say precisely what he will do to those who want to forgo insurance. There is a name for such a health care approach: It is called TonySopranoCare.

Lie Two: No new taxes on employer benefits.

Obama took his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, to the mat for suggesting that it might be better to remove the existing health care tax break that individuals get on their employer-sponsored coverage, but return the vast bulk–if not all–of the resulting revenues in the form of health care tax credits. This would theoretically have made coverage both more affordable and portable for everyone. Obama, however, would have none of it, portraying this idea simply as the removal of a tax break. “For the first time in history, he wants to tax your health benefits,” he thundered. “Apparently, Sen. McCain doesn’t think it’s enough that your health premiums have doubled. He thinks you should have to pay taxes on them too.”

Yet now Obama is signaling his willingness to go along with a far worse scheme to tax employer-sponsored benefits to fund the $1.6 trillion or so it will cost to provide universal coverage. Contrary to Obama’s allegations, McCain’s plan did not ultimately entail a net tax increase because he intended to return to individuals whatever money was raised by scrapping the tax deduction. Not so with Obama. He apparently told Sen. Baucus that he would consider the senator’s plan for rolling back the tax exclusion that expensive, Cadillac-style employer-sponsored plans enjoy, in order to pay for universal coverage. But, unlike McCain, he has said nothing about putting offsetting deductions or credits in the hands of individuals.

In other words, Obama might well end up doing what McCain never set out to do: Impose a net tax increase on health benefits for the first time in history.


CNN Obama interview on Mandates

How does that make economic sense? It apparently didn’t…

But don’t worry. Remember, Obama said, “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

Oh, wait.

At a White House press conference on Tuesday, Obama seemed to back off from his promise that people who like their health care plans will be able to keep them under his plan for reform.

Instead of saying that “no one” will take away any American’s health insurance, Obama said only that the government would not do so, but pinned the possible changes on employers, who may adjust their health care plans due to costs.

“I can guarantee you that there’s the possibility for a whole lot of Americans out there that they’re not going to end up having the same health care they have,” he said Tuesday. “Because what’s going to happen is, as costs keep on going up, employers are going to start making decisions: ‘We’ve got to raise premiums on our employees. In some cases, we can’t provide health insurance at all.’”

This was a shift from what the president said just last week, when he told a gathering of the nation’s doctors, “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

Well…ok, so don’t worry about that. Obama thinks his plan is so awesome that he most heartedly endorses this plan, and promises that he would use this for his own family members.

Oh, never mind. Well, it’s good enough for you, anyway.

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Further reading on taxing health benefits:

From the NY Times: Administration Is Open to Taxing Health Benefits

From the California Health Line: Administration Officials Say Obama Is Open to Taxes on Some Benefits

UPDATE: From the AP/Boston Globe:

Americans who refuse to buy medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a healthcare overhaul bill unveiled yesterday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Obama’s top domestic priority.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines would raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.

snip

In a letter outlining the details, Senators Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Christopher Dodd of Connecticut said their revised plan would cost dramatically less than an earlier, incomplete proposal and eventually help expand coverage to 97 percent of all Americans.

The two senators said the Congressional Budget Office put the cost of the proposal at $611.4 billion over 10 years, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago.

In a statement, Obama welcomed the revised legislation.

Big surprise….

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Comment by Patience | 2009-07-03 22:14:57

Thank you for this update and refresher AGII — I appreciate it. The healthcare issue is heating up and it’s time to pay close attention.

 

Comment by Woman Voter | 2009-07-03 22:26:02

If the press/media had done their work, we would have the best person that just happened to be a woman as POTUS Hillary R. Clinton. The Fourth Estate is Missing…those Cheer Leaders are not journalists.

Also, Charlie Gibson was absolutely shocking complaining that if those nearly 50 million people get insured how is he going to get an appointment. WOW! Charlie Gibson is a Greedo, he should know that Markets meet demands, so he doesn’t have to react like a panicked man stepping on others during a fire to get to the exit.

 

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-07-03 22:39:24

Thanks for the reminders, AGII.

He is a two-faced liar with several personalities, so who really knows what this megalomaniac really wants, except constant attention. This incredibly shallow wannabe man changes his story depending on where he’s doing his stand-up routine and when questioned on his shifting positions either has a hissy-fit or talks so far around the question that one forgets what was asked in the first place. If he spent one-quarter as much time actually working as does off-gassing, prevaricating, or flitting about the country, he might actually get something accomplished… which might be a bad thing. Either way, the American public is the loser.

Comment by Benjamin | 2009-07-04 02:49:54

This man is just in perpetual campaign mode. Honestly, I think it is all he knows. If a poll or CBO numbers are not good on the health care plan, he quickly throws together a totally stage-managed Town Hall, etc., etc.

Obama and his thugs think he can make a couple of speeches and sell the public on anything - but I really feel people are starting to wake up to his Dog and Pony Show.

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-07-05 18:48:27

but I really feel people are starting to wake up to his Dog and Pony Show

I hope you are correct and that it is in droves and not just one dittohead bot at a time

 

Comment by tek | 2009-07-05 19:21:13

Benjamin: you remind me that nowadays, all the federal pols focus on campaigning and pay no attention to governing.

I’m shocked, shocked that 2 of our 3 college kids are now disenchanted with Obama.

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-07-05 19:29:23

Benjamin: you remind me that nowadays, all the federal pols focus on campaigning and pay no attention to governing.

Governing requires actual work. The last elected politicians to do actual work were Cheney and HRC, the former for all the wrong reasons and the latter for all the right ones.

 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-07-05 22:41:58

Oddly enough, tek, my youngest son who voted for Obama is becoming more and more disenchanted. He was a finance/business major and has been working in the industry, has a wife and mortgage now. He’s “perplexed” by these economic policies, the gargantuan spending programs and general direction things are taking.

Well, better late than never, as they say :0). Of course, he’s now looking at having to actually “pay” for hope & change and cheery forecasts when the numbers are anything but.

Big differance than letting Mom and Dad pay for the pretense “Yes, We Can” have everything without the pain.

 
 

Comment by dc | 2009-07-08 00:10:01

God, it’s nice coming back to this site. Obama never had a clue about Healthcare; Hillary could write volumes on the subject. I agree that all this guy knows is campaigning, the ultimate in dog and pony show. Who the hell would have wanted an amazingly intelligent WOMAN to run the country, with a grasp on all the important issues. Hell with a country whose media mourns MJ 24-7, it’s no surprise how we ended up with this light weight.

 
 
 

Comment by bayareavoter | 2009-07-04 00:17:01

Oh, big surprise. I can’t stand 0Zero and the Dems and I’ve been one my whole life. And watching the Republicans is like watching a Fellini movie.

I just think it’s wrong to tax one group–the middle class who’ve already seen their savings and retirement funds evaporate in the last few yrs–in order to give health plans to the uninsured. Why should one group basically take a pay cut so Obama can say he got some plan passed?

Why not set it up like social security so everyone who works pays for it? And why rush something so big, so complex, complicated and expensive thru in a few weeks?

I really miss Hillary. She may have screwed this up when Bill was Prez; the Rs were completely against any health plan at all and the
Dems weren’t much help either but at least she gave it the thought and analysis it deserves.

Comment by politicalidentitycrisis | 2009-07-04 02:26:02

Plus, she has gained vast knowledge of the problem from having the experience, unlike the inept usurper!

Ugh! I still often scream. I used to throw things at the tv, but I’ve stopped watching Obama. I think I will start throwing darts at a board with names and parties on it to feel better. Only names. Pictures may include my name, but I don’t want the nausea and vomiting that would go along with that!

 
 

Comment by rose | 2009-07-04 00:24:33

he always says words matter so I guess you have to decide which words and at what time? A hypocrite is a hypocrite!

 

Comment by jbjd | 2009-07-04 00:41:54

AGI, this is a great compendium of the differences between BO and HRC on more issues than just their health care plans. I always wish HRC was POTUS but, after watching the videos - I was familiar with all of the pre-election snippets - I realized, I had forgotten that visceral feeling of admiration and yes, love she evoked in me, with her candidacy.

Comment by dc | 2009-07-08 00:15:42

Same here, I truly loved her. She was/is so damn smart and she’s so much more than a dog and pony show. And she leveled with us, unlike this phony who is just concerned with his daily poll ratings. Hillary was in it for more than the title, she really wanted to get something done. Real legislation, not just phony meaningless stuff like we’re getting here. A housing plan that hardly anyone can qualify for, and the banks aren’t really implementing. Bank bailouts, a bs health care plan.
These young folks and others heard what they wanted to hear. Yes We Can!

 
 

Comment by bayareavoter | 2009-07-04 01:32:01

BTW, thanks, AGII, for pulling this all together.

We need health care reform. I just don’t trust this guy to do it right.

Comment by politicalidentitycrisis | 2009-07-04 02:27:48

We need health care reform. I just don’t trust this guy to do it right.

My feelings exactly!

Comment by sarainitaly | 2009-07-04 05:13:25

Comment by tek | 2009-07-05 19:23:24

Yes, and I’m quite worried that if he passes some lame healthcare program we’ll be stuck it. I don’t think it will be anything good and it will for sure tax the middle classes in irresponsible ways.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Wombat | 2009-07-04 01:37:57

NoBama is a lying sack of crap! Everytime he appears on TV, I turn to another channel. It is completely unprofessional that the Dems have removed any GOP input in discussions on extremely important issues that will mainly effect the Middle Class. I hope that when the GOP gains control of the Congress in 2010, that they do not act like the Dems. I used to vote mixed party, but now I cannot think of one Dem that I would vote. Like NoBama, they are all slugs!

 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-07-04 01:41:29

Oh, I love that line in the one piece, AGI: TonySopranoCare. I can hear it: Yeah you guys, you’re going to take health care coverage or we’ll break your kneecaps!

This is such a trainwreck!! And even the Obama people are beginning to realize it. Obama’s financial team was on one show and it’s the first time I noticed they’re beginning to sweat. Reality is creeping in. You can only continue this charade for so long.

And a middle class tax increase? That will bring the house down in addition to the suggested VAT tax, taxes on our healthcare benefits and the tax we’ll pay on utilities if this crazed Cap & Trade program goes through. Not to mention an increase in state tax because there are states right behind California on the brink.

I don’t agree with Palin on a number of issues. But she’s right about one thing–this helter-skelter spending is obscene. And there’s only so much the tax-payer can bear, those of us still working.

The Dems have gone absolutely insane!

 

Comment by socalannie | 2009-07-04 01:50:44

Between crap & trade, which sounds like it will raise the cost of living (higher prices for food & energy) & now an income tax hike for those of us with employer paid insurance, we are totally fucked. The middle class in America is living paycheck to paycheck now. If Barky gets his way, he may well preside over the destruction of the middle class. I thought the dems were supposed to be the champions of the middle class. What bullshit. I hate both parties. Trillion $ bailouts to filthy banks & filthier Wall Street, and screw the regular people.

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2009-07-04 02:06:20

“I hate both parties.”

You must be reading my mind, socalannie. And we are so-o-o screwed because we have no real representation anymore. The pols that are willing to stand up are far and few between. Never in my life did I think I’d be cheering on a Ron Paul. But at least Paul and Bernie Sanders, men from opposite ends of the political spectrum, are pushing for an audit of the Fed. That’s a start. If they can get it to the House floor, that is.

The craziness makes your head spin.

Comment by socalannie | 2009-07-04 02:22:27

I also saw a utube of Dennis Kuchinich railing against the Fed. You’re right, there are a few, but most of them are morons that follow their party line.

 

Comment by Betty | 2009-07-04 07:42:57

Michelle Backmann from MN, who I used to think was a luneatic, is also supporting the push to audit the Fed.

While the representatives I voted for here in MN kept their eyes on Obama and their hands hovering over the yes button when it came borrowing a trillion dollars from China and using our descendants access to the American dream as collateral, Michelle stood up and yelled, Hey - who is looking out for the American people. (ot, of course China wants to ruin us, how can they keep a population of billions enslaved if there is another country on this planet full of free people who are prosperous and self determining.

I started calling those two low lives, Betty McCollum and Amy Klobuchar, way back when Glen Beck said “it cries” or when that Schuster freak said Hillary was “pimping Chelsea”. I asked, begged, demanded that they speak out in condemnation of those words, but no, not a peep. I began to sort of forgive them, thinking it might not be so easy to get on tv with an opinion, -but then along came Michelle.

 
 
 

Comment by VMorris | 2009-07-04 02:23:24

What Peggy Sue said…..

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-07-04 02:45:57

American Girl in Italy Thank you for a well done post.

Ouch!

 

Comment by AnnieCollier | 2009-07-04 03:16:30

As commented earlier: A pox on both their houses.

Comment by tek | 2009-07-05 19:25:52

Annie: my favorite expression!

Comment by Ladydawnelle | 2009-07-06 10:03:42

I was almost going to be a smart arse and say (after reading your headline)

“Barack Obama is a big fat liar”

um yea so what ELSE is new?

or

Please tell me you didn’t JUST NOW figure that out?

lol

yep a big fat liar (same as that OTHER book by the same title about another famous LIAR)

BOTH HOUSES - pox, POX, POX! (spit)

 
 
 

Comment by wbboei | 2009-07-04 03:47:17

In the corporate world there was an expression we used for people like him: out of control. And whenever a business executive was out of control, he jeopardized the entire organization. But when the CEO was out of control and the Board failed to act it was the death of the company. To repeat, Barack Obama is out of control. I will prove it to you in a day or two. Better still, he will prove it himself.

Hell the verdict is in: Buffett, Powell, Welch, Hedges, Krauthammer, Israel, Europe and everyone else who is in the know and not on the take. In the Path of The Common Law (Harvard Law Review 1896) Justice Holmes shrewdly observed: “If you want to know what the law is don’t ask a judge. Ask a thief.” Likewise, if you want to know what Obama will do next don’t ask his Press Secretrary. Ask a psychiatrist

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2009-07-04 05:16:24

Will the F$%#@*g Congress-nuts tax their health care insurance????

OK you can all stop laughing — because we know the answer to that.

0zero is a lying sob — WE KNEW that over a year ago — oh about a year and a half ago.

Liar liar, pants on fire.

But hey don’t you all know that taxing health care benefits will bring in billions of tax dollars.

When will the jerks and cowards who voted to 0zero wake the hell up? First he opens the treasury to the wall Street thieves (with will be paid for by you and me) now he’s going to tax benefits that a lot of people don’t use because the co-pay etc. have become out of sight — impossible to deal with. ON THE BOOKS it might look like a gold plated employer paid for health care benefit — but in reality the insurance really is almost worthless. Try getting really really sick — and not being able to work. . .

None of this surprises me — 0zero is working for the people who put him in the white house — and that’s all that matters to the ONE.

He still belongs in jail next to Rezko in my opinion. Can we just divorce Chicago?

 

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2009-07-04 05:18:35

bottom line: i want health CARE, not health “insurance.”

 

Comment by Diana | 2009-07-04 05:36:50

(Facetious Alert or you can call it a SA alert)

All us newly Independent people need get together and fight/ or sue (since money seems to be the only thing they understand) the government. We have no representation in Congress and only 2 in the Senate. We are not being fairly represented, yet we are being unfairly taxed. No Taxation without Representation. There are 52 Million Republicans, 72 Million Democrats, and 42 Million Independents, yet we only have 2 Senators to represent us. You can’t get more unfair that that.

Or how about us Women, we too ban together for the same reasons, we are not being fairly represented. We have 92 women to represent us total. There are 360 men. Yet we outnumber the males in this country by more than 10 million. We’re not being fairly represented. That’s unfair taxation without representation.

AA: 43 total
Hispanic 25 total
Asian 7 total
Native Americans 1

Let’s all ban together! Power to the People!

Comment by Diana | 2009-07-04 05:48:53

Oops sorry I forgot to count in the men in Seanate which brings their total to 443. Women 92. There are 360 men in Congress and 75 women. The senate is 83 men and 17 women.

 
 

Comment by lee12 | 2009-07-04 08:33:36

I receive health care through my partner (domestic partner) and the employer portion IS taxed (innocently disguised as “imputed income”). I can’t wait till Obama taxes the rest of America. We are angry about this but if obama gets his way and the employer side tax goes through, then ironically it will be a first in equality/justice for us.

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/benefits/4820.htm

Comment by tek | 2009-07-05 19:28:21

lee12: This is what I keep saying: It’s already taxed, already!!

 
 

Comment by mountainaires | 2009-07-04 08:56:21

The moment Obama recanted on his lie about public financing, I knew the truth about this liar. Everything else is just more evidence to add to the growing mountain of evidence that this man is a complete fraud, an illusion, a con.

Comment by Scout | 2009-07-06 01:28:45

Yep, that and FISA. Pretty much tells you all you need to know about the liar in chief.

 

Comment by dc | 2009-07-08 00:22:57

That’s what his history tells us, his Chicago mud politics days, etc. Everthing he’s done is to be President, and this guy is all about BEING President, not actually doing the job. But the Hillary hatred, often translating to woman hatred, blinded voters to what was staring them in the face…a phony….I could never figure out how voters gave Obama a pass on all the evidence. Now they’re surprised?

 
 

Comment by mountainaires | 2009-07-04 08:56:58

The moment Obama lied about public financing, I knew the truth about this liar. Everything else is just more evidence to add to the growing mountain of evidence that this man is a complete fraud, an illusion, a con.

 

Comment by mountainaires | 2009-07-04 09:20:22

Last year, the Supreme Court held in Heller that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of individual Americans to keep and bear firearms. But that ruling was a fiercely-contested, 5-4 split decision. Justice Kennedy joined the four conservatives on the Court to make the majority, with the four liberal justices writing passionate dissents about how the Second Amendment does not apply to private citizens.

Bluntly speaking, the Second Amendment survived by a single vote. Had one justice voted differently, the Second Amendment would have been erased from the Bill of Rights forever. Today in the Supreme Court, the right to bear arms hangs by a single vote.

The next question the Supreme Court will decide is whether the Second Amendment is a “fundamental right” that applies to cities and states, thus preventing them from restricting gun rights. Even the liberal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held earlier this year in Nordyke v. King that the Second Amendment is a fundamental right, yet Judge Sotomayor disagrees.

When Barack Obama nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, it belied his flowery rhetoric about respecting our constitutional gun rights.

Out of almost 200 federal appeals judges in this country, Judge Sotomayor is one of only six to weigh in (after the Heller case) to hold that the Second Amendment only limits federal actions. If your state or city chooses to ban all guns or take away the ones that you already have in your home for hunting and self-defense, Sonia Sotomayor says the Constitution can’t help you.

This position becomes all the more radical when it’s revealed how she reached this conclusion. Only six judges have denied gun rights against the states. Of these, three did so in a recent Seventh Circuit case, NRA v. Chicago, writing a detailed opinion that the Second Amendment doesn’t apply to the states because they thought an old 1800s Supreme Court case tied their hands on the issue, and they commended the case up to the Supreme Court after long and scholarly consideration. Judge Sotomayor and two of her liberal colleagues, however, wrote only a single paragraph on the whole issue when deciding their own New York case, Maloney v. Cuomo. In one paragraph, she said the Second Amendment gives people no rights at all when it comes to state or city laws. She gave no explanation, and made no call for Supreme Court action.

Then we find that this has been a consistent belief for Sotomayor. In a case before her in 2004, she and her colleagues concluded that there is no fundamental right in the Second Amendment but provided no substantive analysis to justify this conclusion. Throughout her career, Judge Sotomayor’s record is one of consistent opposition to the private ownership of firearms.

http://gunowners.org/a062908.htm

“The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.” — Cicero – 55 BC

 

Comment by LisaB | 2009-07-04 09:27:05

I always thought it defied reason that Obama, with so little experience in politics, could have an answer for any national problem. The fact he’s breaking virtually all campaign promises is not a surprise to me, nor is it likely to bother the bots much.

They liked what he said, but they voted for him based on other factors. It simply did not matter that his promises were patently impossible. If it weren’t so bad for all of us, I’d be pleased the bots were getting what they were promised.

Ugh.

Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-07-04 09:50:28

I’m sure they are going to care when their paychecks start disapearing…

and i’m sure a lot of them didn’t pay attention to what he was actually saying.

ugh indeed!

Comment by Scout | 2009-07-06 01:30:11

The ones who get paychecks, maybe.

 
 
 

Comment by tango | 2009-07-04 11:05:29

Funny, I see all the Sarah Palin bashers and Obots on the Sarah Palin threads spewing non-stop hate towards her or talking up Obamas accomplishments but on this Obama thread? Crickets! Why aren’t they here defending his decisions? Why aren’t they refuting with proof that he hasn’t flip flopped, changed his mind or lied about various campaign promises?

Even if you love Obama, you must admit there is some troubling aspects to how he said one thing while campaigning and appears to be doing something else while in office.

Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-07-04 16:03:24

good point… distraction! they would rather kick Palin then admit their lord and savior is screwing them.

 
 

Comment by b mathews | 2009-07-04 12:27:47

theres 300 million people in the us. send everyone a million dollars and watch the economy turn around. cost? 300 million as opposed to 3 trillion.

Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-07-04 16:08:54

no, it would be $300 trillion. If you gave everyone $1 it would be $300,000,000.

 
 

Comment by CentralMass | 2009-07-04 12:29:01

I plan to keep voting against the incumbent. Regardless of which party they belong to.

The republicans had control of congress for a dozen years and the presidency for 8.They added 5 trillion to the national debt. They also let Wall street and big oil bleed the country dry. The neocn strategy in Iraq was wrong and tehy refused to change course until they lost big in th emid-term election.

The GOP and both Bush and Cheney pitted themselves against those who would not join them, in fact they villified them. Calling other Americans unpatriotic, eveil doers etc. Bush and Cheney and Remsfeld chest pounded on matter of the miltary while their wrong minded strategies go a lot of our men and women killed or maimed for life. The pitted themselves aginst the world and the “evil liberals”, where a libral is anyone who doesn’t pledge allegiance to their party and rancid ideologies.

Then the democratc pissed don the democratic process durig this last election just as badly as the republicans did in 200 and 2004.

Both parties suck. The presidency is a bought and paid for job as are the jobs of representative and senator.

We need to vote them all and then limit them to one term with our votes in the future.

Comment by NoBamaNoWay | 2009-07-04 17:14:37

pretty much.

 
 

Comment by memi | 2009-07-04 19:19:34

THANK YOU American Girl for posting these memorable ads/vids. I’m saving them for posterity!..

I will never forget how Hillary was critized by the media misogynist fratboys, especially by Jerk McCAFFERTY of CNN who called Hillary’s angry response to Barack’s slimey distribution and misrepresentation of her policies on health care as coming from:

“A SCOLDING MOTHER”!! As if he was insulting Hillary (and all women by extension) for acting like the ADULT she is!…Shame on McCafferty; he’ll live in HIstory as the jerk who made being a ‘mother’ an insult! (Perhaps HIS mother would be the sole exception here!)!!!!

 

Comment by I'm a Linda too | 2009-07-04 20:32:26

An excellent post.

If Obama makes it throught his 4 year term and decides to run agin, it will be so easy to show his obvious lies.

 

Comment by Dan | 2009-07-04 21:13:18

Didn’t Obama say that if you wanted to keep your own healthcare plan and not particpate in the nationalpln you wouldhave that option.

Bill HR676 sec 104 sounds like they want to put private healthcare ins. out of business.

SEC. 104. PROHIBITION AGAINST DUPLICATING COVERAGE.
IN GENERAL.—It is unlawful for a private health
insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act.

http://www.pnhp.org/docs/nhi_bill_final1.pdf

 

Comment by tek | 2009-07-05 19:18:29

God, I can hardly stand to look at those pictures of Obama’s arrogant, juvenile, idiotic mug. Obama=the do anything, say anything to win candidate.

 

Comment by gianni | 2009-07-05 21:23:02

Where are the Obama sycophants? Wow, never seen it so empty. A veritable ghost town. There’s obviously nothing to defend here. Obama is a nightmare.

Comment by Steve_in_KC | 2009-07-05 21:57:12

Where are the 0bots? My guess is they’ve all earned their limit of $10 a week for defending the cause. They used their allotment trashing Sarah, the Republican Devil Woman, who to them represents the greatest threat known to Obamadom.

Now they’re waiting for the credits to hit their bank cards so they can go buy a dime bag of weed and spend the rest of the week getting high in Mom’s basement while she’s at work. Then they can sit around giggling with their friends about how they did their part to save the world, while sucking Cheetohs dust off their fingers.

Comment by oowawa | 2009-07-05 22:12:40

“Sarah, the Republican Devil Woman”

Ooh, I want to see that when it comes out on direct-to-DVD.

However, Steve, as to the proper way to dispose of Cheetoh dust:

Dust it off your fingers onto a small mirror layed flat, then add any residual left in the bag. Scrape it into a line with a razor blade. Snort it through a short straw. Enjoy.

 
 
 

Comment by tek | 2009-07-05 21:24:34

Would someone explain how the tax on utilities works in the cap and trade bill?

Comment by ConfusedAmerican | 2009-07-05 22:09:09

Tax on utilities — You have to be kidding me….
I can hardly make it through the winter as it is.

Comment by oowawa | 2009-07-05 22:25:03

Wow–that tax on utilities is really going to hit the indoor marijuana-growing industry hard. Wonder how many of those folks voted for Thee One?

 
 

Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-07-06 06:56:19

Did you see my post on Cap and Trade? There were lots of great informative videos in there:

http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/so-cap-and-trade-is-it-good-thing-or.html

 
 

Comment by OMG | 2009-07-05 21:51:57

Here’s how it works..an extra $3,000 to $5,000 per family per year. The Obots sold off their immediate futures and don’t even know it yet. Wait until they are required to pick up the tab for their fauxleader to the tune of 50-60% taxes. Soon, very soon. And their fauxleader is not going to like it if they want to crank up their thermostat past 68 degress, eat good food or drive around in their SUV’S using up fuel. Naw naw naw. They are going to have to sacrifice and give up most of their piece of pie. They will jump his ship if they notice at all what’s really going on. When they sober up?

 

Comment by OMG | 2009-07-05 21:54:30

Well really, they can come and inspect your home to see if your are using too much electricity…and obots whose homes get inspected may go to jail when the cops see their bong pipes. It’s very invasive and a ruse to control us.

 

Comment by Texas Playwright | 2009-07-05 22:56:42

Best to keep accurate records of all the House/Senate bills from idea to inception. We gotta help the 2012 presidential candidate depose the usurper with FACTS.

 

Comment by scott huminski | 2009-07-06 08:03:46

SOTOMAYOR IGNORANT OF THE LAW

Sotomayor flunks on getting the most basic principle of appellate law wrong – the Standard of Review.

In Huminski v. Haverkoch, 11/5/04, 03-7036 2d. Cir., Sotomayor reveals an ignorance of the law by failing to apply the correct standard of review to an important civil rights case. She found appellate review was for reversible error when the correct standard of review for such a case (summary judgment) is De Novo.

A simple google on, “standard of review for summary judgment de novo” supplies tens of authorities on the issue. I guess Sotomayor would rather be wrong than google on such a rudimentary issue. She also could have assigned her flock of law clerks to research the issue. Further, on a motion for rehearing specifically pointing out her error she did not act and correct it.

Here is the link to the Sotomayor summary order from this case in which she presided over.

http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/cb42154f-30e6-47ee-ae7c-d8e4c3acc2e5/1/doc/03-7036_so.pdf#xml=http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/cb42154f-30e6-47ee-ae7c-d8e4c3acc2e5/1/hilite/

See also,
http://www.judgewatch.org/web-pages/cja-members-efforts/huminski-scott.htm

Where the order states “For the Court”, it refers to Sotomayor and the 2 other judges on the case.

See a different case of mine, Huminski v. Corsones, No. 02-6201 (2d Cir. 10/07/2004) (“We review a district court’s grant or denial of summary judgment de novo.”)

Empathy, not much empathy for this wrongly convicted and incarcerated citizen,
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/nyregion/10dna.html?_r=1&emc=eta1
It appears she gave this imprisoned man the same bogus one page opinion that I got.

– Scott Huminski
(202) 239-1252

 

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