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Unearned Smiles in Moscow

Originally published July 6, 2009 at the blog for The John Batchelor Show.

 


The Jewel in the Crown.  

Steve Cohen, NYU, spoke Sunday 5 of a new cold war that is a dominant theme in Moscow since the early years of the Bush administration and that continues zestfully into the new Obama administration. POTUS has reversed his campaign pledge to cancel the deployment of a part of SDI into Poland and the Czech Republic. POTUS has not commented on the plans for Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO. Vladimir Putin insists upon both the discontinuing of SDI at the borders of Russia and that Ukraine and Georgia remain out of NATO.  Of all the jewels, Ukraine is the most treasured in the crown of Imperial Russia (Putin is a ferverish nationalist) and will not be permitted to break away. Putin is adamant.

The Russians are conducting live-fire military exercises on the Georgian border at this moment as a clear insult to the POTUS visit.

Steve Cohen told me the military exercises are also a response to the NATO war games of two weeks ago on Georgia. The new cold war is bruising both ways.

What Is To Be Done?

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The chatter (above) about missile decommissioning is facile. The unearned smiles on POTUS and Putin’s choice stooge Dmitry Medvedev illustrate the aimlessness and harmlessness of the ceremony.   Steve Cohen pointed to the efforts by Russia to present concessions, such as opening an air corridor over Russia territory to reach Afghanistan. The US is not offering any concessions.

Both Steve Cohen and George Friedman, Stratfor.com, mentioned that the US needs Russian’s help with Iran, but that Russia will not offer and the US is not in position to ask.

Steve Cohen’s recommendation is that Washington listen to Moscow’s priorities with regard security, trade and the threat of the jihadists to Russia’s Moslem population. George Friedman looks to Poland as a vital and long term fertile ally in Eastern Europe that will eclipse Russia and link closely to Europe and North America.   None of these concerns are on the table for the conversations in Moscow. Today POTUS meets with Putin.  Putin is a vastly more potent and militant leader than POTUS.  The Moscow verdict on POTUS may have been communicated by a member of the ruling party to the Wall Street Journal correspondent at the White House, Jonathan Weisman. 

“Overall, Russia is skeptical of Obama,” said Sergei Markov, a senior legislator from the ruling United Russia party. “They are afraid he could be a smiling George Bush.”

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Comment by jbjd | 2009-07-10 20:37:56

Ha! Even the Russians see BO’s resemblance to GWB. (I was relieved to hear, BO merely signed a “Memorandum of Agreement” on securing a nuclear disarmament treaty by the end of the year; previously, I had understood he intended to usurp the Senate’s Constitutional authority to approve a disarmament treaty by claiming, this was (another) emergency.

 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-07-10 21:24:34

i remember when bush made that famous comment about looking in putin’s yes,etc. geez, i said then that putin was much smarter, more ruthless and had much more gile than bush2. of course, i was right. he looks at obambi and see putty. hehehe(there is a pun there ya’ll)

 

Comment by DAB | 2009-07-10 21:26:48

The facial expressions of the college students as they listened to Obama’s Russian speech reflected a good deal of suspicion and skepticism. They, at least, were not fooled by That One.

Comment by stodgie | 2009-07-10 21:30:57

dab, ole zero is seeing the expression he can get expect from now from just about everyone except the few still on the koolaid express.

 
 

Comment by whoframedrudy | 2009-07-10 21:52:56

Skeptical because they don’t think O is really ‘the decider’ on national security? Like Medvedev, O is just a sock puppet for the Pentagon?

Skeptical because you can’t predict the actions of a rookie who doesn’t know what he’s doing?

Skeptical because — if O’s stimulus plan fails after burying the U.S. under historic debt, they expect a flare up in U.S. nationalism?

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-07-10 22:31:02

Charles Krauthammer
has a interesting take BO’s Moscow trip

Obama doesn’t even seem to understand the ramifications of this concession. Poland and the Czech Republic thought they were regaining their independence when they joined NATO under the protection of the United States. They now see that the shield negotiated with us and subsequently ratified by all of NATO is in limbo. Russia and America will first have to “come to terms” on the issue, explained President Dmitry Medvedev. This is precisely the kind of compromised sovereignty that Russia wants to impose on its ex-Soviet colonies — and that U.S. presidents of both parties for the past 20 years have resisted.

Comment by tillthen | 2009-07-11 06:43:12

Well, once again, it took a solid Republican to put it in perspective.

Krauthammer/Palin 2012

Comment by tillthen | 2009-07-11 06:46:23

No, I changed my mind. It should be

Palin/Krauthammer 2012

Think about it. It could work.

 
 
 

Comment by Hot Librarian | 2009-07-10 22:32:24

The real point of the Bush/Putin team was to allow Russia free reign in Chechnya.

Now Putin is repaying the permission slip & allowing airspace to Afghanistan.

Not that Russia isn’t amazed to have USA/NATO doing its work in Afghnistan of course!

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-07-10 22:44:52

U.S. General Sees Afghan Army, Police Insufficient
Obama Strategy May Need More Funds, U.S. Troops

Jones and others agreed, however, that both reconstruction and competent governance cannot be achieved until the Afghan people are secure. The strategy calls for U.S. and Afghan forces to clear areas of the Taliban and then hold them. Commanders leading a Marine operation launched last week to drive Taliban forces from Helmand province in southern Afghanistan are already asking: “Where are the Afghan troops? Where’s the economic plan? Where is the government?” Jones said.

About 4,000 Marines are involved in the current offensive, along with about 650 Afghan soldiers.

650 Afghan soldiers? No disrespect to the Afghan’s serving but whats up with that? Does any one think “clear and hold” will work when there are so few Afghan’s to hold it?

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-07-10 22:53:30

There’s enough manpower to prevent the Iranians from implementing their proposed pipeline through Afghanistan and giving us time to route ours instead: there’s a race on between several nations as to who will supply EU’s gas & oil.
And the warmongering fascists defense contractors are receiving billions of our money.

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2009-07-11 01:32:57

“competent governance” and “Obama” are mutually exclusive.

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 08:38:39

That’s a null intersect, for sure.

 

Comment by foxyladi14 | 2009-07-11 16:04:57

cant use those two terms together.

 
 
 
 

Comment by K | 2009-07-10 22:37:13

NQ is a funny place. The so-called feminists on here will defend Hillary Clinton and Sara Palin no matter what. However, when the most powerful woman, Nancy Pelosi, in the country says the CIA misled her there was endless posts on NQ ripping her apart, and often in sexist terms by the readers. Susan one of your pieces was titled “Nancy, Your Slip Is Showing!” and Larry your piece was titled “Nancy Pelosi, A Lying C*****n”. Where was all the outrage about all the comments, often sexist (calling her a bitch)and extra scrutiny put on Pelosi in the media and by commentators? Now there is an admission by the CIA Director Panetta that yes the CIA has misled congress since 2001. Where are the NQ apologies for Pelosi? Just re-enforces my view that NQ’s agenda is just to slime the Democrats and Obama not matter what. A bunch of hypocrites. There is no value here.

Comment by kgirl1028 | 2009-07-10 22:49:49

First of all what does that have to do with the topic at hand?/ Secondly I feel no need to defend an individual who is every bit the incompetent liar people say she is…and when was the last time nancy pelosi open her mouth to defend another woman? Never! I judge people the the content of their character and Nancy’s much like yours is lacking. So quit the red herrings and get back on topic.

 

Comment by Karma | 2009-07-10 22:53:29

Pelosi manipulated/stole my vote twice. Broke all the rules at the DNC convention to install her choice rather than the democratic voter’s choice. Threaten delegates throughout the primary that they wouldn’t give them the funds to run if they didn’t support Obama. And more.

And I am supposed to care about her why!? I didn’t support the BushCo stealing the election and I don’t support Pelosi and the DNC’s theft either.

She can take a long walk off of a short pier for all I care.

 

Comment by elise | 2009-07-10 23:31:44

Why has Panetta been inconsistent in his statements about the briefings by the CIA on waterboarding? You brought this subject into the conversation so I’d like to know what you think,K?

According to Nancy, there was no sexism in the primaries and she broke the marble ceiling. Well, she didn’t. She was selected by the house based on her fund raising, but she will never come close in a national election and she chose to throw her influence behind an unqualified man rather than Hillary.

The reason for most of the anger among feminists on NQ is the attacks on her family rather than her policies. Pelosi has five children of her own which makes her behavior reprehensible. “Your slip is showing” is hardly equivalent and, although I don’t like any attacks on anything other than her stupidity, she has not endeared herself to many women. She can go to Tibet and dress in a sarong and feign her enlightenment, but she never says a word about women’s issues.

Comment by elise | 2009-07-10 23:35:15

That should be, “attacks on Sarah Palin’s family”.

 
 

Comment by stodgie | 2009-07-11 05:46:52

ok K why are you still here if we are all so terrible. listen i’d be more than happy to recommend some other obit sites you can go and wallow in.

 

Comment by jbjd | 2009-07-11 11:34:47

I agree with your statements about the double standard on this blog with respect to sexism. I have complained in the past and was soundly admonished, I could not take a joke.

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 16:21:45

It is one thing to be blatantly sexist and another to be off-color. It is also one thing to be politically correct and another to be a censor. It is one thing to tell one’s truth and another to propagate another’s lies.

Frankly, I’d rather have an un-PC group of commenters who tell the unvarnished truth as they see it than a host of bots coming here with their “spin”, which amount to no more than outright lies and disreputable equivocation. Ugly truth is better than pretty lies any day of the week, wouldn’t you say?

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 17:15:13

Amen Ferd………..

Look at Brother Bill…………I love this man (L)

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-07-11-voa15.cfm
A historically African-American fraternity has inducted former U.S. president Bill Clinton as an honorary member.

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 17:20:30

Bill is the man. I wonder why they didn’t invite That One. Oh, he less black than Bill, apparently. Hahahaha

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 17:26:05

Evidently the Africans weren’t that impressed

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 17:42:03

And with good reason.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by lorac | 2009-07-11 16:10:51

“all the comments, often sexist (calling her a bitch)”

I agree that sexist comments shouldn’t be employed against women, even if we don’t like those women. But I disagree with your example - I don’t see how b*tch is sexist. It makes me think that you are equating any criticism of women with sexism, just as BO supporters have made any criticism of a black person equivalent to racism.

Sexism:
1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2. discrimination or devaluation based on a person’s sex, as in restricted job opportunities; esp., such discrimination directed against women.

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 17:17:33

Sexism:
1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles.
2. discrimination or devaluation based on a person’s sex, as in restricted job opportunities; esp., such discrimination directed against women.

David Letterman is a sexist Pig. Fact

 
 
 

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-07-10 22:54:51

The majority of Ukrainians do not in fact appear to want Ukraine to become a member of NATO. Polls indicate an approximate 20% favorability rating for joining. Ukrainians as a whole prefer the idea of joining the EU. The 4.5 million signatures necessary for calling a referendum as to joining have been collected, the Kiev city court has called for a referendum. This upholds the ruling of the Constitutional Court in October 2008. (The Constitutional court is the product of Ukraine’s young constitution which was implemented in 1996 & its function is to interpret the constitution and determine whether laws conform to it). Yet: Yushchenko sits on his hands: no referendum.
Nor does Ukraine presently meet the requirements to join NATO. Until 2017, when their lease runs out, the Black Sea fleet is stationed in the Crimean Ukraine (Sevastopol): the presence of a non-NATO military base within Ukraine’s border violates the requirements to join NATO. (United Germany was given a pass on this requirement because West Germany was already a member).

Georgia also does not meet the requirements to join NATO. It has numerous unresolved ethnic conflicts within its borders. A tie-eating president with an itchy trigger finger and incompetent troops don’t exactly recommend it for an ally either.

“The Russians are conducting live-fire military exercises on the Georgian border at this moment as a clear insult to the POTUS visit.”
A strong reminder at the very least. Yet Russia is not the only nation desirous of running its pipelines through the region. Here are the 6 firms lobbying to have the mass killings of Armenians by the Ottoman Turks in the early 20th century recorded as a genocide (as the US ambassador to the Ottoman Empire Morgenthau rightly believed we should have done at the time). When looking at these firms together, it’s quite clear the motive isn’t redress.
http://realarmenia.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/firms-lobbying-on-armenia-genocide-resolution/

 

Comment by gianni | 2009-07-11 00:21:36

The CIA did not lie, Pelosi lied.

Anyway, this is really big news and of course it’s not being covered by the MSM. Hospitals in Hawaii are furiously covering their ass, scrubbing and altering websites now that investigators from World News Daily have caught them in a lie regarding claims that Obama was either born or not born there. This is really well done, on both the investigation and reporting side. I urge everyone to read the article and the link below. There really is astonishing stuff afoot regarding keeping the Obama birth story straight.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103633

 

Comment by hmk_me | 2009-07-11 01:36:27

Axis Sally Pelosi took the right of a fair election off the table. She was in on the fund raising stage and the planning stage well before this election.

Did you see the post at the confluence about the extent of the wiretapping and how it has extended under backtrack?

WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

 

Comment by elise | 2009-07-11 03:37:20

It’s too bad no copy exists of Obama’s thesis on Soviet Nuclear Disarmament.

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-07-11 07:27:05

if it did Ayers would have written it

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 17:20:00

lmao NOM, are you saying Barry didn’t write “Dreams of my Dead Useless Drunk Father?”

 
 
 

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-07-11 07:28:24

post still in Spaminator since yesterday

Comment by NomNomNom | 2009-07-11 19:15:32

:( My comment has been taken out behind the Spaminator and only the admin has come out :(

 
 

Comment by tango | 2009-07-11 09:39:52

I know the Russia trip was overall a bust for Obama. He made a few gaffes and didn’t seem to take the public by storm which must have been very distressing for a man who needs constant adoration. I also loved how Putin send George Bush Jr a birthday card earlier that week thanking him for his hospitality and openess.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/putin_obama_bush/2009/07/07/232674.html

Also, did you all know that Obama’s mother in law got to go on this trip also? She also got to meet the Pope but they ushered her and the Obama children out before photos could be taken.

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 17:23:14

He should have taken his illegal aunt too.

 

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 17:27:26

Also, did you all know that Obama’s mother in law got to go on this trip also?

Christ, if he wants to take his entire family tree with him, he should foot the bill. I’m tired of my taxes going for perks for that overbearing pompous ass and his ill-mannered family.

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 18:02:57

No kidding Ferd.

At a time when we are told to tighten our belt…….balderdash!

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 18:07:13

I would surmise that he’s taken a page from Leona Helmsley’s book and entitled it “Belt-Tightening is for Little People”.

 
 
 
 

Comment by JMM | 2009-07-11 10:11:57

Tango I don’t know why the WHOLE family gets to go on these trips. It’s expensive and we get to foot the bill. I don’t know anyone who takes their whole family on every business trip they take and expects their company to pay for it.

 

Comment by tango | 2009-07-11 10:13:35

Hey, can we maybe have a Saturday “open” thread?? There’s lot of interesting stuff going on so it’d be nice to post in one place to get feedback and not go off topic.

Comment by Disgusted | 2009-07-11 10:29:57

I agree. Time for an open thread.

 
 

Comment by Seymour | 2009-07-11 14:54:47

This trip was unmitigated disaster.

China and India told Obama to pound sand regarding “Climate” and if you can find pictures of this trip, specifically Russia outside of MSM, you will see one or two with Putin looking focused, serious and thinking “Dmitry, in all of history why are we bestowed the delightful honor of toying with this new Amerika like a cat with a mouse? We’re going to have some serious Russian fun with Amerika Comrade Medvedev. Mr. Obama has so eloquently placed himself and Amerika in checkmate and we haven’t made our first move yet. We must thank him also for offering to gut America’s defense arsenal liked we asked and now he will follow our other demands of taking out those pesky little anti missile shields from Poland and the Czech Republic that would impede our plans of forcing both out of NATO and back to the Motherland. Back to the Motherland for sure as NATO after 60 years is still looking for its dentures. Oh and another thing Med, tell Mr. Obama we will not tell Tehran to do anything as Iran’s Rial is as valued as our Ruble.

This will be the last conversation I have with Barak or is it Barack? Regardless, he will now report to you.

Exaggeration? I took fictitious liberty yes, but IMO not so much.

Truth? Bulls-Eye with overt results known soon enough once again IMO

Question: How can Hillary Clinton work in this atmosphere? She is going to be tagged as part of this disaster of inexperience! She’s going to be seen as the only adult at this level of Obama’s education having to continually wipe the backsides of this entire administration. ENOUGH!

 

Comment by foxyladi14 | 2009-07-11 16:14:08

at least there is one adult in the bo administration..

 

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 17:32:54

http://www.lucianne.com/shortcuts/

Halfway down the page it looks like Barry is ooogling more ass on this trip.

Lmao Larry Sinclair move over!

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2009-07-11 17:54:14

I saw that clip on the tele and the woman had bent down to pick something up, on this photo I would only give BO a 3 for being smooth, but it appeared as if he looked at what she was attending to.

Still I guess since he has no Max mags to look at he must be having withdrawls…he does have an addictive personality. So much for needle exchange.

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 18:02:28

Still I guess since he has no Max mags to look at he must be having withdrawls

Even if he had them, he’d still be an uncouth ogler. He telegraphs everting he’s doing, doesn’t he?

Comment by Ferd berfle | 2009-07-11 18:03:38

Sigh… that would be “everything”.

Comment by PainkillerJayne | 2009-07-11 20:29:25

The teleprompter gave the que

 
 
 
 
 

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