Comments on: “You Expect Us To READ This??” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:32:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Doc99 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235932 Doc99 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:16:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235932 Our country's in the very best of hands. Our country’s in the very best of hands.

]]> By: Nellie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235921 Nellie Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:44:16 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235921 SF Indie, I concur with that idea. Also, I would like to have ALL bills have a descriptive topical index, so that we can quickly find the portion that pertains. Amy, as always a fantastic job informing all of us what the overpaid useless congress critters are doing. You are truly a valuable asset to us all. SF Indie,

I concur with that idea.

Also, I would like to have ALL bills have a descriptive topical index, so that we can quickly find the portion that pertains.

Amy, as always a fantastic job informing all of us what the overpaid useless congress critters are doing. You are truly a valuable asset to us all.

]]> By: LDW http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235894 LDW Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:39:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235894 “So is the Obama plan really better than nothing? The Obama plan seems calculated to buy time for private insurers, to end the health care discussion for a decade or more without solving the health care problem, do so in a way that discredits the very idea of everybody in- nobody out health care. It will leave tens of millions uninsured, a hundred million or more underinsured, and the same parasitic private interests in charge of the American health care system that run it now. The Obama plan as it now stands requires us to let another 18,000 die for each of the next three years and allow more than a million additional families to be bankrupted by medical expenses before we can judge whether or not the plan is working. It’s easy to imagine Obama partisans telling us in mid 2013 that it’s still too early to be sure.” Read the entire article: http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-health-care-plan-really-better-nothing “So is the Obama plan really better than nothing?
The Obama plan seems calculated to buy time for private insurers, to end the health care discussion for a decade or more without solving the health care problem, do so in a way that discredits the very idea of everybody in- nobody out health care. It will leave tens of millions uninsured, a hundred million or more underinsured, and the same parasitic private interests in charge of the American health care system that run it now.
The Obama plan as it now stands requires us to let another 18,000 die for each of the next three years and allow more than a million additional families to be bankrupted by medical expenses before we can judge whether or not the plan is working. It’s easy to imagine Obama partisans telling us in mid 2013 that it’s still too early to be sure.”

Read the entire article:

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-health-care-plan-really-better-nothing

]]> By: AZBlondie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235892 AZBlondie Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:36:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235892 I would like to see a 'plain english' interpretation of the bill. I tried to read the darn thing, and my head was spinning after only a few pages. If something on page 150 is 'struck out' on page 400, for heaven's sake, just show it as struck out on page 150! Modern word processing software can add comments, show strikeouts, etc... I vote that whoever is responsible for adding / changing a provision should also be responsible for writing the 'plain English' version, so there can be no argument about the intent. But others should be able to comment on 'unintended consequences' as well...<strike></strike> I would like to see a ‘plain english’ interpretation of the bill. I tried to read the darn thing, and my head was spinning after only a few pages.

If something on page 150 is ’struck out’ on page 400, for heaven’s sake, just show it as struck out on page 150! Modern word processing software can add comments, show strikeouts, etc…

I vote that whoever is responsible for adding / changing a provision should also be responsible for writing the ‘plain English’ version, so there can be no argument about the intent. But others should be able to comment on ‘unintended consequences’ as well…

]]> By: tzada http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235812 tzada Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:43:03 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235812 Seems like if someone is not capable of doing a job or unwilling to,then they should be fired. The Constitution says that congress shall make no laws that infringe on an individual rights (paraphrased) So if someone breaks the law of the land they should be fired? imprisoned? let to continue? Seems like if someone is not capable of doing a job or unwilling to,then they should be fired. The Constitution says that congress shall make no laws that infringe on an individual rights (paraphrased)

So if someone breaks the law of the land they should be fired? imprisoned? let to continue?

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235786 TeakWoodKite Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:48:15 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235786 jwrjr , The "read much" was Rhetorical as well :smile: The "Congress-death-eaters-persons" are a bunch of lemmings (with parachutes) hurling themselves off the cliff of political expediency. Cheered on by BO the Half<strike>blood</strike>wit prince, urging them on in Parcel tongue, the official language of the 57th state. If I let BO call me stupid can I have a beer too? jwrjr , The “read much” was Rhetorical as well :smile:

The “Congress-death-eaters-persons” are a bunch of lemmings (with parachutes) hurling themselves off the cliff of political expediency. Cheered on by BO the Halfbloodwit prince, urging them on in Parcel tongue, the official language of the 57th state.

If I let BO call me stupid can I have a beer too?

]]> By: Kathleen Wynne http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235772 Kathleen Wynne Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:23:59 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235772 Rev. Amy, Excellent post! As always, you hit the nail on the head. The way I see it, if it's too complicated for the representatives to understand then they haven't done their job and should scrap the bill and start over. NO BILL should be too complicated for those who are supposed to have written them, much less expected to be followed by the people whom they are supposed to serve! Their arrogance is beyond belief and should be yet another wake up call to all of America that our government is no longer the servant of the people. As I've always said about our elections process, which is just as corrupt as the government we didn't elect -- the only experts in elections should be the people themselves. The same should be true for any laws that we, the people, are expected to follow. Rev. Amy,

Excellent post! As always, you hit the nail on the head.

The way I see it, if it’s too complicated for the representatives to understand then they haven’t done their job and should scrap the bill and start over. NO BILL should be too complicated for those who are supposed to have written them, much less expected to be followed by the people whom they are supposed to serve! Their arrogance is beyond belief and should be yet another wake up call to all of America that our government is no longer the servant of the people.

As I’ve always said about our elections process, which is just as corrupt as the government we didn’t elect — the only experts in elections should be the people themselves. The same should be true for any laws that we, the people, are expected to follow.

]]> By: jwrjr http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235769 jwrjr Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:16:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235769 "Rhetorical" as in "We already know the answer". “Rhetorical” as in “We already know the answer”.

]]> By: SFIndie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235759 SFIndie Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:30:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235759 I think that to prove they've read the bill and understand what's in it, they should all have to write a synopsis of what's in the bill and post it on their respective websites at least 72 hours before a vote. That way, their constituents (as well as all the rest of the country) can be sure their Congressidiot HAS read the bill and DOES understand it. It would also be interesting to compare the synopses of all the Congressidiots ..... I'm so beyond outraged I don't think there's a word yet to describe my emotions. I think that to prove they’ve read the bill and understand what’s in it, they should all have to write a synopsis of what’s in the bill and post it on their respective websites at least 72 hours before a vote. That way, their constituents (as well as all the rest of the country) can be sure their Congressidiot HAS read the bill and DOES understand it. It would also be interesting to compare the synopses of all the Congressidiots …..

I’m so beyond outraged I don’t think there’s a word yet to describe my emotions.

]]> By: elizabethrc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235758 elizabethrc Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:24:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235758 I suspect many of the bills are purposely written like insurance policies...so that the public can't understand them, thereby making it easier for the Congress to not do the job they were sent there to do while at the same time, foisting many unpleasant and undemocratic laws onto us. I suspect many of the bills are purposely written like insurance policies…so that the public can’t understand them, thereby making it easier for the Congress to not do the job they were sent there to do while at the same time, foisting many unpleasant and undemocratic laws onto us.

]]> By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235755 Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:06:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235755 Thanks, AGII! It truly is absurd, isn't it? And Conyers wasn't the ONLY one who said it (and the video makes it quite clear he was mocking the "readers"), but the House Majority Leader as well!! That is just shocking on its face! And who the hell is writing these bills if the reps can't understand the damn things????? Thanks, AGII!

It truly is absurd, isn’t it? And Conyers wasn’t the ONLY one who said it (and the video makes it quite clear he was mocking the “readers”), but the House Majority Leader as well!! That is just shocking on its face!

And who the hell is writing these bills if the reps can’t understand the damn things?????

]]> By: American Girl in Italy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235742 American Girl in Italy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:23:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235742 There are so many things wrong with his comments, it just makes my blood boil. They can't understand the bill? Well, if these guys can't (many who are lawyers themselves) understand it, WHO can? If they can't, then YES idiot, get a lawyer. Why is it so difficult to understand? That is a problem! And gee, they don't want to spend TWO days reading it? It's their JOB! This just baffles me!! Great post Amy! I am as outraged as you! There are so many things wrong with his comments, it just makes my blood boil.

They can’t understand the bill? Well, if these guys can’t (many who are lawyers themselves) understand it, WHO can? If they can’t, then YES idiot, get a lawyer. Why is it so difficult to understand? That is a problem! And gee, they don’t want to spend TWO days reading it? It’s their JOB! This just baffles me!!

Great post Amy! I am as outraged as you!

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235733 NoBamaNoWay Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235733 you can bet that who ever wrote the bill also wrote some big fat checks to the congresscrooks, and you can bet that said congresscrooks read the dollar signs on those checks very carefully. you can bet that who ever wrote the bill also wrote some big fat checks to the congresscrooks, and you can bet that said congresscrooks read the dollar signs on those checks very carefully.

]]> By: frdmbased http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235729 frdmbased Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:35:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235729 <strong>Yes, there is a lot in there they don't want you to know. Basically on pages 16-17, after 5 years your private insurance you got to keep has to be the same as the government choice and if there are ANY changes such as copay that changed after the inception date of the healthcare bill, then you have to get government care. Wonder how many private insurers will be in business after 6 years?</strong><em> http://finance.yahoo.com/insurance/article/107408/5-freedoms-you-would-lose-in-health-care-reform.html?mod=insurance-health</em> Yes, there is a lot in there they don’t want you to know. Basically on pages 16-17, after 5 years your private insurance you got to keep has to be the same as the government choice and if there are ANY changes such as copay that changed after the inception date of the healthcare bill, then you have to get government care. Wonder how many private insurers will be in business after 6 years?

http://finance.yahoo.com/insurance/article/107408/5-freedoms-you-would-lose-in-health-care-reform.html?mod=insurance-health

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/28/you-expect-us-to-read-this/#comment-1235718 TeakWoodKite Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:05:21 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=29088#comment-1235718 The question taken in the literal is more striking than in the rhetorical. For instance if just ONE of those nebulus "periods" "and" "or", "strike this" and "replaces that" changes a legal interpetation, no one will argue or even know until it is to late. Read much? The question taken in the literal is more striking than in the rhetorical. For instance if just ONE of those nebulus “periods” “and” “or”, “strike this” and “replaces that” changes a legal interpetation, no one will argue or even know until it is to late.

Read much?

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