Open Thread: “Obama’s Ratings Slide Across the Board” (Pew Research)
By Bronwyn's Harbor on July 30, 2009 at 5:30 PM in Current Affairs
From Pew Research Center, via Memeorandum.com: “The Economy, Health Care Reform and Gates Grease the Skids — Barack Obama’s approval ratings have suffered major declines. The president’s overall job approval number fell from 61% in mid-June to 54% currently.”
Here’s a suggestion: Why doesn’t President Obama talk about creating JOBS instead of repetitively using the same tired talking points about health care without ever explaining to Americans how his health care bill will help the economy, let alone create jobs. As a panelist on Bret Baier’s Special Report said yesterday, “Obama has EXHAUSTED his bully pulpit on health care reform.” Americans want to know what Obama is doing about creating JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.
It’s obvious to us who are cynics that Obama’s preoccupation with health care has to do with building a historic legacy, and not what the American people need most right now.
Check out the Weekly Standard’s Daily Grind for more on why Obama’s ratings are dropping.
What say you?
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couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.lol.
Riding home an hour ago, NPR’s “All Things Contorted” news program grudgingly admitted that NPR’s poll shows “The One’s” approval at 52%.
I see NPR’s still wildly inflating his popularity! LOL
I only “HOPE” things “CHANGE” and someone undo the destruction Obama has wrought.
Last time Obama’s ratings took a big slide, and McCain pulled ahead, we had a major economic crisis, remember?
It is not very comforting to those of us who knew the guy would be a disaster and was definitely no messiah to see people disapprove of him now. Way past too late, unless those people who’s eyes are now opened wish to talk impeachment? I’m sure we can find a reason.
I imagine some bots now have that sick in the stomach feeling that I had a little over a year ago when I realized this was a fraud and the media was controlled. For that I pity those fools!
Look at this quote from his side kick.
Emanuel Rahm once said, “Never let a serious crisis go to waste.” And when your “crisis” is in crisis?Create another crisis and the crisis your old crisis faces is forgotten.”
Sounds about like what happened?
Constitutional question: Fact… Obama father was a British citizen … No need for Birth Cert … Since again Constitution Question is Obama is a Natural Born Citizen as required to be eligible for President. Natural Born Citizen … intent of framers of the U.S. Constitution … The Law of Nations by Vattel was guidance for the framers….
So what does it says regarding NBC…
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
http://home.earthlink.net/~dybel/Documents/LawOfNations,Vattel.htm#I-§212
Natural born citizen… Being born to citizens meaning plural … See Obama birth cert … a red herring.
Oh & the 14 amendment say citizens not natural born citizens
And finally this Supreme Court decision…
SCOTUS clearly states in Minor, six years after the adoption of the 14th Amendment, that the definition of “natural-born citizen” is not found in the Constitution:
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [88 U.S. 162, 168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.
Here are two polls where you can vote and see results. There are many many many people who feel like we do.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/28/hot-seat-are-republicans-to-blame-for-birthers/
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/24/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/
2 Georgia men (police officers) were arrested for trying to do back ground checks on 0. The Secret Service caught them at it.
Thanks for posting those links to the votes.
Do you have a link to the Georgia police story?
Well, did anybody really expect that an empty suit with no experience or leadership skills would last beyond the rhetoric of hope and change?
Like somebody here pointed out, 6 months to choose a dog for his brood, yet we gotta pass healthcare in 2 weeks. Then the massive spending, then the slip up in exposing his “hate on whitey” attitude that was covered up by the press when the Wright thing exploded last March.
Expect Obama and his minions to start bringing up how the US is still a racist society when he goes under 50% on RCP. That will drive his polling to the low 40’s.
Nobody cares about being called a racist anymore.
Obama reminds of the trolls who are complete assholes that everyone hates, but they think by creating a new screen handle and email address that they’ll rejoin and fool everyone. But you can’t hide who you are and eventually the trollish asshole in you comes out again.
That’s Obama. He hates American, hates whitey, hates the principals that define America, yet no amount of image conditioning and recalibration of words can change who he is, like his little slip up on hating on whitey and backing Gates despite not having all the facts. Or even his speech at the NAACP. The real Obama is coming out and it’s turning off people like it should have done in March 2008.
And he hates women too
This is so true. I’m given to laughing now when I hear the charge. Blacks have lost whatever small credibility they used to have. If they want credibility, they’ll have to earn it. No white alive has owned a slave so we have nothing to apologize for and we will not apologize! Get over it!
indeed! I recall being told to “get over it” last year when the dems cheated.
I think that the reason for the slide is that a lot of air has gone out of the Hope and Change balloon. Rather than live up the promises he made on the campaign trail to provide a transparent government we instead find obfuscation. Rather than be true to his word that he would demand fiscal responsibility we have spend, spend, spend with no end in sight. And even in Iraq, there are rumors floating around that our commitment could extend for at least a decade.
The liberals are upset with him because he has betrayed them. The moderates are upset with him because of all his spending. And the conservatives are upset with him just because.
But there is no doubt that across the board Americans of every political stripe are awakening from the dream meme he so carefully crafted and seeing him for the inexperienced so-called pandering leader he is.
I have written about this Pew Research poll on my blog. I’ve mainly concentrated on Gatesgate because that is when this downward spiral began to gain momentum. If you would like to read it please do. And of course your comments are always welcomed.
Stupidity has Consequences
Does this mean that those of us who didn’t doze off to the “dream meme” must still endure the nightmare we’ve been experiencing for almost a year?
Yes, Gatesgate really brought it home that this guy can’t think, can’t lead and can’t let go of his Jeremiah Wright roots. They have used the race card so much that they have rendered it a meaningless and ineffective weapon against those who dare to criticize his policies. Now, as many of us predicted as the unemployment rates go higher and higher he is toast. This isn’t the 1930’s. We have been raised as an immediate gratification, ADD and consumer generation who can’t wait for anything. Not like the immigrants and the Americans of the early 20th century who endured great hardships. No,just wait. These 20 somethings just out of college and who are looking for work will be getting very restless indeed and by December there will be no turning back. Show us the stimulus money? Show us the jobs you complete and utter fraud.
They are trying to slam the door before we figure out to get out of this mess.
Tarp banks award billions in bonuses
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ff921710-7d2a-11de-b8ee-00144feabdc0.html
Democrat resists subpoenaing VIP mortgage records
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99OUTF03&show_article=1
Pelosi lashes out against insurance companies
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE56T4CZ20090730?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Such wishful thinking……carry on………God you people are ignorant!!
Now Now…….You only come here for a teachable moment.
hahaha!
Yes and in my personal opinion, j.Cox is acting stupidly.
LOL!
His curve is trending and he needs some recalibration.
lol
Downward calibration as is the case now would be appropriate.
LOL!!
Wishful thinking that Obama’s ratings are in the crapper, or wishful thinking that you’ll put down the bag of Cheetos and move out of your mother’s basement?
“You people” again???
j. cox, Jay, whoever, …you need to ask for a different script. That one’s getting sorta stale.
You ight want to work on your aliases, too. Not very creative IMO.
And using that “you people” nominal on a group of AAs will definitely put you in the racist category, so you better be careful!!
The latest from Real Clear Politics:
Obama is dropping faster than Carter
Until Obama, Carter was the last president to begin his term in the high 60s. Carter first polled at a 66 percent approval rating. He did not reach Obama’s present territory until mid September, when he hit 54 percent.
Obama is now in the 53-52% range, and it’s only July.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/07/30/obama_drops_faster_than_bush_or_carter
Obama won, yes he did! Obama is the worst President ever, and in only 6 short months! Obama finally accomplished something!
Obama is like fast food…smells good, tastes good when you ingest it, when you realize the empty calories and bad chemicals you ingested you’re nauseated, depressed, and saddled with major regret. Just like voting for BO!!!!!!
Where’s the beef? Well she’s Secretary of State.
I really wish j Cox that you get your utopia. I really do. I really hope that the change comes for you. Just keep waiting for the One to save you.
The only ignorant one here is you because you obviously still buy into the whole Obama lie. You aren’t even smart enough to see what the rest of us saw during the campaign…that he was an opportunist and an utter fraud who was incapable of anything but reading pretty speeches written by a 26 year old off a teleprompter.
Move on. Nothing for you here, junior.
And they’re still dropping with Rasmussen today showing Obama’s approval on their daily tracking down to **48**
And
Gallup has Obama down to 52 today among all adults, instead of Rasmussen’s Likely Voters.
Get the sand bags ready for DC. That wave the Dem’s rode in on has turned tide and coming fast and furious.
DAMN!!
I’ve got a better idea. Why doesn’t he just stop talking!
The lady who sold her 2 TV sets because she was tired of seeing him on every channnel has it right. Why doesn’t he just stay in the White House and start doing the job he was sent there to do. He ain’t Hollywood material and this isn’t a game show. This is the real world and he needs to prove that he can come up with concrete ideas which are more than just the vague pap and rah-rah nothings that keep coming out of his mouth.
I knew he was nothing more than air and now the morons who voted him in are beginning to see what we saw several years ago. He hasn’t got what it takes and he’s not up to the job.
OK please dont jump on me I am just asking a question.
Has anyone ever seen or heard Obama apologize for things he personally did or said. (Ok he has apologized the the world for the US)
I know that his staff has said Obama is sorry or Obama apologizes, But what about Obama himself saying he is sorry or I apologize.
In the Gates issue it was that he calibrated the words wrong, like some car.
Actually, a few days ago I listened to Gibbs talking about the Gates situation, and I swear to you, when he approached the subject of an apology, he could not get the word out of his mouth. He hemmed and hawed and danced around it. What is wrong with these immature people?
narcissists do not apologize. They are lifetime blamers. In their minds, everyone else is to blame.
This is one of my main quarrels with the man–he just seems incapable of apologizing. He’s great at blaming, though!
He only apologizes to the world for America. How shameful he is, bowing to another man,bizarre.
Bronwyn wrote:
“It’s obvious to us who are cynics that Obama’s preoccupation with health care has to do with building a historic legacy, and not what the American people need most right now.”
Cynics unite!!! This is theater to the max. The health care reform [and I use the term loosely], the repeated happy talk on the economic news [check out the recent unemployment numbers and then the spin that labor is attempting to wing out there] and Barney Frank making grandiose gestures that he’s demanding cramdown policies for underwater mortgages [when he knows as any sensible person knows that the banks are sitting on mortgages because otherwise it would obvious that they're all insolvent].
This is theater of the absurd to keep the masses in check and prevent the pitchforks and torches from coming out [for the moment at least].
Are we cynics? No, we’re realists because anyone with a cheap calculator knows the numbers do not lie, only the people quoting them.
This is an ongoing farce. We ought to start calling it for what it is.
Thanks for the article, Bronwyn.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Obama-Crowley-and-Gates-chat-over-beers/ss/events/pl/073009beersummit#photoViewer=/090730/480/e595358a56be4257bde61239e8c1fe96
Slideshow of the Beer Summit. Biden is there too. LOL
Oh-oh. I think i can see the next controversy already! In the slide show, those beer glasses aren’t getting empty. Apparently no one likes the beer. Now the beer companies will be crying foul!
They already did. LOL
On Glenn Beck’s show one of them was complaining that they should have served American beer.
yeah they should serve american beer.
Ok what is wrong with this picture or is it just me.
Gates and Obama are the best of buddies.
Biden is Obama’s 2nd hand man.
So here we have around this table Gates, Obama, Biden and Crowley.
Opps Isnt Gates the one that called Crowley Racist?
Opps Isnt Obama the one that Called Crowley Stupid?
And well Biden is Obama’s Pal.
SO what happened to having a unbiased someone with Crowley….
So far the picture I’ve seen was everyone’s one’s mouth moving but Crowley’s…
Alreay a couple of other newcasters have seen the weirdness of this setting.
So Gates get his pal Obama and Obama get his pal Biden and Crowley sits there with whom???
I think I would have refused and walked away unless one of the people I brought could at least sit at the table.
Remember guys the press is also out of hearing distance.
Many said that it was crazy for Crowley to do this. Many however felt that he would have people with him.
Its not that I dont trust the President(Oh NO)but I have a feeling that there will not be too much gained from this.
Biden is there because 2 black men and 1 white man which has less power isn’t a good pic for Obama!
Too much for a post-racial Prez!
Y’all have to see this. It’s hilarious. Press Sec. Gibbsy furiously backpedals on what, exactly, the president intends to “teach” us. Too funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbu9rq3sLOA
Thanks for the link.
Nice to see the press finally applying ‘press-ure’ for real answers.
Tapper is right - What is this teachable moment? Who’s learning from it? Is Crowly learning to not be racist? Is Gates learning to respect police officers? Is Obama learning to stick to his teleprompter?
Tapper seems to really despise this administration. Can someone get him that damn birth certificate or college documents so he can take these guys down. He looks very tired of the cheater-liars already. Don’t make him (or the rest of us) suffer anymore!
If you recall, JT is the reporter who was surprised at BO’s admission at that private fundraiser in SF last spring that, he had been to Pakistan. Surely, back then, the reporter in him must have wanted to ask the then candidate, why didn’t you mention this earlier? It wasn’t even in either of your 2 (two) autobiographies! But he bit his tongue; and he has bitten his tongue on that and several other salient discrepancies between the man and his myth, ever since. Now that BO’s cover is dissolving, I would bet, JT is kicking himself for not having been the reporter he could have been, all along.
Crowley speaking about the beer summit now.
As i said……..God you people are ignorant. President Obama is doing just fine, but go ahead and keep hope alive……
So you’ve dumped your j. Cox alias then?
C’mon get a little more imaginative. Something more flamboyant and colorful, like …Marconi or Imastooge.
jay, you are a tool and a not very bright one at that. thanks for playing, but you get no doll.
That’s okay, cupcake. My grandma said the same thing about Carter, too. Leave him alone, he’s doing just fine, she said….
Jay, please read “Suborned in the U.S.A.” in today’s NRO. Then come back so we can comare notes, okay?
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmJhMzlmZWFhOTQ3YjUxMDE2YWY4ZDMzZjZlYTVmZmU=&w=MA==
Oh, and read this one, too. “We’ve Figured Him Out,” by Ben Stein, in The American Spectator.
and boring……but I digress……
jay you digress and digress and digress. boring!
Help! I’ve had another spam gobble. I sent the requisite email. Hope it reaches the spam gods.
So, other than the ones with their heads up their obamas, is anyone here surprised that BO is sinking faster than the RMS Titanic?
“Assberg right ahead.”
no portia, no surprise here. i am just sorry it wasn’t before the election. wouldn’t we all be much happier if theese dim wats hadn’t put this pathetic peice of work in the wh.
Fixing health care is an essential part of fixing the economy. Plus health care is a moral issue. We must make sure that the life sucking vampires that are the private health insurance companies no longer call the shots.
Well Hello there Nancy… that was some rant you gave to the reporters. Your botox must have hit your brain.
But can you REALLY show where in the Messiah’s plan it says the insurance companies won’t be in charge?
Of course, it makes perfect sense to spend 1 trillion + on healthcare reform that caters to insurance companies and pharmacueticals when we’re already in the tank for 11 trillion +, exposed for 23.7 trillion dollars of risk with the bailouts, omnibus spending bill, budget, and unstimulating stimulus bill and unemployment [though reported at 9.5] is more in the range of 18% with no ceiling in sight.
Rising unemployment, tanking tax revenues and interest on the current debt and no consumer spending expected [which happens to represent 70% of the US economy]. Too bad. You can’t spend much when you’re out of a job and on the street.
But yes, please let’s feed the beast, make the insurance companies happy and pretend we’re all delirious, too.
Btw, what are you smoking? Maybe you can pass it along to the rest of us. Take a deep drag. We’re all going to need it.
And morality? You tell me what’s moral in the present economic situation facing this country or how your definition of morality is going to feed and clothe a child, a family, a nation?
Get off your damn high horse and start looking at the numbers. They’ll make you gag. You don’t need a Ph.D, just a cheap calculator and unbiased eye.
Numbers do not lie. Only the dishonest people quoting them. Take a look. I dare you.
Then and only then, come back and give us a morality lesson.
Lots of discussion about Obama’s presidency here:
http://www.commongroundpolitics.net/discussion/forumdisplay.php?f=181
Nice piece Larry. Long time no talk. Hope all is well.
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