[Image/Video Update] Join Us To Live Blog Obama’s Health Scare Speech!
By Bronwyn's Harbor on September 9, 2009 at 7:35 PM in Current Affairs
UPDATE: Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), via Allahpundit + Rep. Wilson’s later apology:
The culprit was South Carolina rep Joe Wilson … when The One told what was, in fact, a lie. … Where this jackass gets off lecturing Americans on civility after his cretinous cronies spent a month demagoging the hell out of every protester in sight is beyond me. You’re Mr. Clean, aren’t you, champ? And bottom-feeders like Harry Reid are your hatchet men. …
I’m told that his magic number of “47 million” uninsured Americans magically dropped to 30 million uninsured in this speech, presumably to omit the illegal immigrants who were inflating the tally. …
Update: When do Obama and Reid apologize for their month of jackassery?
“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”
Below, ORIGINAL POST + video of Rep. Wilson’s “LIE!”:
We’re posting this open thread aka “live blog” thread early so that you can begin to weigh in on any leaks you’ve heard about what Obama’s speech will focus on as well as what the pundits are predicting.
Besides what Obama says, we’ll all be on the lookout as the cameras pan the members of Congress to check out their reactions. Also: If needed, we will add new threads, and we may start a new thread for the speech to be delivered by the Republican minority.
Boy, oh, boy, you’re the last people we need to say this to, but what the heck: DON’T BE SHY! TELL US WHAT YOU REALLY FEEL! Ha!
CONTINUATION OF UPDATE:
Bronwyn’s Note: I’m a bit let down that Rep. Wilson had to apologize, but I do recognize that his quickly-issued apology should help keep the Obamedia from an all-out blitz attack.
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Mark Levin is reading pre-released portions of it on the air, and there’s really nothing new in it. But basically, the world is gonna end if his plan (which plan?) isn’t passed.
That is truly amazing. But, now that I think of it, it’s not surprising.
For some reason, those inside the White House bubble still believe that Obama’s rhetoric alone will sway people. They don’t realize that people have been so overexposed to Obama speaking that he has lost that “messiah” effect with which he once thrilled millions.
(He never once thrilled me, but I always assumed I was an odd duck, maybe allergic to Kool-Aid. Even his 2004 convention speech bored me because it was so vacuous and devoid of specifics and an action-oriented agenda.)
Yep, this speech is the same utopia he’s been peddling. You know, everybody will be covered for everything, nobody will be denied anything, his plan will cut costs and be more efficient, if you like you coverage and your doctor you can keep it, and everybody will get a lollipop.
But I wanted a pony and a rainbow of my own.
I thought they handed out stickers not lollipops? We’ve been cheated!!
Do I also get to choose my flavor of lollipop?
You and me both, Bronwyn’s Harbor. It stuns me that people have been so entranced with this guy. All that charisma — is lost on me.
Just like the country was doomed if they did not pass the stimulus money grab plan… nothing but Fear mongering in the first degree!
what could be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEBDTKnbrPo
Sorry–I’m not with you on your video. I dislike completely the way O has messed up this chance to reform the way healthcare is paid for in this country, but I will not take the stance that the healthcare should not be provided through public funding.
The video starts out by saying our American Revolution was different because it didn’t just change one leader for another; it changed an entire form of government.
The socialism-comes-through-medicine scare tactic doesn’t work for me. That may be what O and his group of 60’s radical wannabees would like to try. But how about trying what our founders did when they decided to put in a public school system. Do you think they were being socialistic or just trying to educate future voters. Well, voters need to be healthly also.
There has to be an entire paradigm shift (to use a sociopsychology babble term). We need to allow doctors and nurses, etc., to use their training as they’ve been taught without having to consider anything other than what is best for patients, pretty much the way teachers are supposed to do with students. And the buildings and equipment and supplies need to be provided by the community and the state with some federal assistance.
If you don’t like the public medicine in your area, go to a private medical facility. There will be similar problems as with the problems with public education. But ultimately it will be controlled by the voters of that state.
There should be absolutely NO profit considerations regarding public medicine. And, then the options, just as with public education, can also exist for those people unhappy with public medicine who can and are willing to pay for something else.
I can think of serveral countries in the western hemisphere who could make your government health care a reality just move there. Voila. Until then let me pay for elderly people, handicapped, and childrens health care cause i refuse to pay for an abled body adults heath care. I don’t know about socialsim but i do know you have no right to my or any one elses money. Period.
I support any insurance system that control costs through incentives for chronic disease prevention and other wellness services. Universal coverage and free treatment for children are great but only if they use reimbursement schemes that encourages eveyone to get off the sofa to get exercise and stops morbidly fat people from eating a whole bag of potato chips.
If obesity screening and required counseling on exercise and diet aren’t enough, make people with unhealthy life choices pay more in health, as well as life, insurance.
sounds good, but let’s not forget tort reform and competition. If we simply did health insurance the way we do car insurance we might start seeing some changes.
I wonder when Health Care became synonymous with Health Insurance. It seems that today, the two are constantly being interchanged. I personally, object vehemently to the idea of being required to buy health insurance from anyone. It almost seems like being required to pay, just for living.
It is only fair to pay for the services I need, and I have. But I feel I can’t understand why health services rates are different for insurance companies and individuals. Why are drugstores not allowed to negotiate drug purchases so they can pass on the savings to consumers; and so many other elements that contribute to the high cost of health services today.
EXCELLENT VIDEO, JOHN! I completely agree.
Always a day late and a dollar short.
That’s the narcissism at work. The man can spend our money jet-setting around the planet but won’t get himself a damn watch.
So true Ferd!
This is what i think. He’ll give the speech. The news will say its the most wonderful speech ever. The health care bill will pass. Your yearly salary will be raped by insurance companies by congression law. Obama will get 1 billion dollars to run for office in 2012 and Insurance companies will make winfall profit.
Good luck america, youre in deep corrupted shit.
Obama Health Care Drinking Bingo Game!
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Sara,
I saw that drinking game earlier. It is really funny.
Are you keeping track of the number of those phrases he uses and how many time?
U am here because I can now longer stomach watching him on TV.
Can I just read the comments here and skip the speech?
I’m pretty sure I already know what’s in the latter.
I’ve been adopting this strategy since the campaign of 2008…..
I think it was cute Michelle just waved at him. She looks pretty in pink.
Makeup can do wonders!
MICHELLE!
Honey, if looks could kill, you’d … wow. Those eyes. That mouth. She is COLD as stone in January. She is pissed off.
I bet he hears plenty from her whenever she gets a chance.
the GOP are staying seated and Nancey is playing jump in the box
She looks like Moe Howard, with apologies to Stooge fans everywhere.
She’s pining for Van just like she did for her preacher. I noticed that as well. She’s plenty mad.
for the love of god, sit down and let him speak. if we have to watch nancy jump up and down every two words again i am going to barf
I never listen to his speeches. I’ll stay here or
Conservatives4Palin and read what others or saying.
Team Sarah is also chatting bout it….
Were is Sarah chatting???
Our economic recovery is only months away! WOW. Even the Democrats waited nearly 30 seconds before they stood to applaud.
Well, for O there has been noting but jetting around the world, flying to NY for dates, eating expensive Japanese beef, buying ridiculously expensive shoes for MO’s stint at a soup kitchen, providing her with makeup artists and personal trainers. How in the heck would he know if the economy is recovering or not; it’s never been a problem for him. Just as it’s never been a problem for anyone in Congress. Why should anyone belive any of those people?
He’s all about the future…that’s what we’re worried about, Comrade.
He brought us back from “the brink”.
Really………. he did………. Has he told anyone?
no kidding. i just read millions more are going to lose their homes. only 12% have refinanced.
No, no, no. He’s solved the housing crisis. Everything is A-OK. AND, we get to keep our Doctors…it will make our insurance work even better.
Honestly, Sara! You party pooper. Obama began his speech by telling us that all our economic woes will be behind us in a few more months.
“prosperity is just around the corner”
Is he plagiarizing again?
Wow! Thats an article I like to see a story on. Do you have the link so I can read it?
Oh, lordy me, did he actually say he brought us back from the brink?
gall stone guy story again…
hysterectomy lady story again….
he doesn’t have new material?
No new material because all the patients are running away scared to death about what he has up his sleeve.
http://www.truthtalklive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/obama-health-care3.jpg
We’ve heard the health care debacle stories before…gallstones, breast cancer patients dropped in the middle of treatment. Yes. That’s what we want regulated.
Talking to my orthopedic surgeon today…he says all the physicians are aware that Big Insurance and Big Pharma are already poised to be the Big Winners…from all the WH meetings he’s had with them.
I pray every day I live to Nancy’s big ball of bad karma “unfold” on her. (that was as nice as I could possibly say it)
our health care problem is our deficit problem…nothing else….. OMG………. I’m going to loose it!
I pray every day I live to see Nancy’s big ball of bad karma “unfold” on her. (that was as nice as I could possibly say it)
Hope your not being un American !!
It wasn’t unAmerican to want to see tyrants burn in hell 230 years ago, why is it now? : )
Burn baby burn?
oh, look, it is tax cheat rangel!
Is this Biden and Pelosi, or what?
http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2009_07_14__03_14_53/Comedy_Drama11.jpg4278816d-2012-4174-80b4-e7c1eac8d61fLarge.jpg
Great to see you doing this, Bronwyn’s Harbor!!
I am not watching the speech. It is a lot more fun to read your comments.
he changed his verbiage about keeping your doctor.
nothing in our plan requires you to change.
They are the oborg, they will make the change for you.
I started watching THE speech with my husband, convinced that I could remain civil - I lasted fewer than 60 seconds and retreated to our bedroom to join the snarky live blog here and feel at home. It’s either you guys/gals or the Tyra Show (we don’t have cable) and I choose you.
I’m doing the same. I don’t want to create my own healthcare crisis if I listen to him. I’ve not ever been diagnosed with an apoplectic fit, but I might if I watch him too long.
ROFL, Lynn. I, too, started to watch it but after being “fashionably late” but when the wave started after every word uttered by That One, the id__t savant, I had to leave.
I understand, I swore I wouldn’t swear, not even a minute and I dropped an f-bomb.
FROM DRUDGE, in BIG RED LETTERS:
“WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES”
WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
Wed Sep 09 2009 17:03:37 ET
At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, a Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option.
Unless multiple Democrats flip on their stated position on health care, Speaker Pelosi lacks the votes to pass a bill through the House on the strength of Democrat votes alone.
WHIP COUNT
44 Democrats Opposed
THE NAMES of the Democrats opposed are listed here.
Thanks for the list. I will have to write and thank my rep, whom I did campaign for. He is a guy who did take time to sit and really listen to people almost one-on-one for some time.
My Senators are going to get a lecture from me for having no spines, for not standing up to Obambi.
Catching colon cancer. I thought we were past thinking cancer was infectious
Oh, lordy me, again, he didn’t say CATCHING colon cancer, did he?
He did. I thought the speech was vetted and he was reading it from TOTUS.
I want to hear him say that Congress will be on the same plan.
Unfortunately, that will happen when hell freezes over.
I’m not watching either. I’m listening to Mark Levin who did commentary before and now is spiking the text with comments. I never thought I’d appreciate the ads.
This is nothing but words–just words.
Did you see DRUDGE headline–dems don’t have the votes.
No specifics… just sunshine, rainbows and unicorns. More of the same from the campaigner in chief. It is all he knows. He needs a new cheerleader though… the wax is melting from his old one.
i want to see his TOTUS break down.
Then at least he’d have to look directly at the American public — you know, voters who think he’s full of shit.
I noticed that too, when he said he was speaking to seniors, looked forward once, then side to side.
what I wouldn’t give to see that happen. It would be like watching a re-run of Max Headroom…remember that tv show or am I showing my age? hmmm.
obama knows how to win friends and influence people.
Someone with guts yelled “liar”. Bravo!
Boy did that piss Nancy off. Someone handed her a sheet of paper, probably tattling on which member yelled out. She’ll git’em.
LOL they tell tales here too?
What will she do, send the person to detention? Just curious. Though her stare might be as bad as Medusa’s. Sorry, I don’t need an answer; she can stare the person to death.
Did she look at herself in a mirror to get that chiseled look? Oh, that was botox–silly me.
Nancy looked like an avenging harpy, ready to swoop down and evicerate the dessenter with her bony talons.
LOL I loved that…
I know, LOL. Biden and Pelosi looked pissed and looked like they were trying to see who it was. LOL
Whoever it is, there will be little dolls with pins in them by the Santeria squad.
They looked like they had just perfected how to sleep with their eyes open when the shout out interrupted their snooze. :0
He’s a liar.
Ditto, I’m following the speech with the NQ bloggers and also listened to Mark Levin this afternoon. Been there done that with all the Obama lies during the 2008 election.
He says the death panels are a lie… I think Palin knows his weak spot. His weak spot is his ego. His ego is his Achilles heel… keep goading at it, because it’s working.
Absolutely, a Narcissist’s weak point is their fragile ego. Like an overfilled water balloon, a slight poke will cause him to explode.
holy crap! i have never heard anyone yell out like that before at a congress speech, has anyone?
Someone yelled out LIE.
It is a lie = why do reform if one of the big groups not insured are illegals?
I heard it incorrectly, then, as I thought it was “liar”–mea culpa. But good for whoever said it. If That One wants to lie, he should be ready to take the heat for it.
GOOD FOR WHOEVER IS YELLING “LIE!!!!” at him!
Aw, that warms my heart
Is someone really doing that??? Wow.
Who yelled it out? Does anyone know. I know it wasn’t my congressman; he’s a coward.
That comment just made me laugh!
Is everything “cleared up” just because he says so? Where are the FACTS?
Do the republicans have a response?
Yes. From a surgeon.
Yes, the Republicans will have a response - it’s a retired cardiologist, now lawmaker, from LA (I think).
He’s a cardiac surgeon for 20 years from Lafayette, LA I’ve seen him speak and he has a good delivery, so hope he does well tonight.
OMG–just looking at the three overlords sitting there is making me all skitchy.
Nancy is sucking her breath mints again.
Yes, she hopes BO will give her another hug and kiss…
Obama was the one that talked about the “death panels” on the ABC infomercial. Remember the question about someone in her 90s needing a pacemaker or something like that and he mentioned giving her pain pills….his point - why use our medical resources on someone so old….
Sarah Palin - keep up the good work….
thank you for mentioning his comments ,I remembered listening to him saying this. YET the media and so many seem to have really faulty memories,couldn’t they just check ,NO, does fox even play this clip for all to see and hear the president saying what he is now denying as truth? I know the other media won’t.
people are making the claims of government take over because of the very claims made by obama and other dems!!!!!!!
Nancy talking out of the side of her mouth LOL
What a jerk. He says he wants to work with the Republicans but I read he hasn’t had a meeting with any of them since APRIL. What a lying joke he is along with all the schills clapping for him.
Over at C4C they said obama mentioned he death panels were a lie stated by a prominent Republican. Did anyone here hear that?
yes.
yes. or prominent politician…?
Sarah really gets to him. She frightens him. I find it terribly amusing that he mentions her at all, even in this odd way.
I thought it was terribly amusing during the GE when it almost seemed that O was campaigning against the VP candidate for the Republicans.
He is such a joke.
One thing I haven’t heard asked regards health care for those here illegally. As a health care provider, I know that they are treated in certain circumstances, without question. Without health care coverage, they keep going to the ER when necessary and they are seen. They come in during labor and they deliver. I’m not advocating denial of care and I’m not advocating insurance coverage for other than legal residents. It is simply a fact that the expense of ER visits for them will not stop.
Why can’t their country of origin be billed for expense?
Most excellent question. Takes a treaty. Why not? This sounds like a State Department function.
I have a friend (an illegal) here in New Jersey-who was stricken with testicular cancer. He went to the emergency room at St Joe’s Hospital in Paterson, New Jersey. They ran tests to diagnose the cancer. He was operated on and spent at least a week in the Hospital. New Jersey charity care picked up the ENTIRE hospital bill. To his credit he did arrange payment for the professional services (hospital doc visits and lab work) that were not covered through the charity care and paid those himself.
When he says… “one dime” he is lying. Nobody who makes less than 250K taxes will go up by one dime either… right.
The Republicans and Bluedog Democrats should get up and walk out just as the speech ends.
He’s gonna be real bipartisan even tho he hasn’t met with them since April. All of it is old stuff with a big jab (he inherited the economic collaspe) at Bush.
He can’t be trusted in any way, shape or form.
He says it won’t add to the deficit. Does anyone really believe that?
The analysts have already put the lie to this claim. It’s bogus.
This view would be perfect if only Obama was wearing a black hooded cloak… Biden had a darth vader suit on and if Pelosi was made up like darth maul. Perfect.
Defensive medicine is increasing costs… you think? He won’t come through though. He never does.
At what point does Barky say that his plan is sooo good, Congress will have the same plan?
He’s lying about illegals not being covered. Everybody KNOWS they will. Rep. Sam Johnson put in an amendment in committee to exclude non-U.S. citizens, and it was voted down on a party line. HR 3200 also includes several billion dollars for “interpreters” in emergency rooms.
I want to know who shouted out “liar.”
yeah, me too…I want to send them a thank you card and feature them on my blog.
The bait and switch is that he plans on making them legal next year through amnesty…bingo! No more illegals.
He gets this little hint of a s**t eating smile from time to time that says to me “swallow this, sucker.”
His door is always open. Yeah, we saw that when your kid was crawling around on the carpet of the oval office.
It’s open because he’s never in there working.
This plan is GOING TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT???? Does he believe in the tooth fairy too…… OMG
Oh, now he’s going to call people out if they say things that are not true about his “plan”.
What plan?
How about we call him out? How does that get discussed? Surely not on the MSM.
He’s getting tough, Ferd like the lefties told him to.
Beebop–we should by writing every member of COngress if it takes that. I’ve written to each one in TN and will do so again tomorrow.
Martha: You’re right but those weenies don’t understand how resilient we are.
I thought the same thing. There were five Dem. plans in Congress, and now it’s like he’s unleashing his own as if it’s been around all summer.
Seriously. If he’s talking about HR 3200, many of us already know what’s in it. One thing for sure, it will blow up the budget and there will be tax increases as far as the eye can see.
Oh oh, if we don’t do it business will fail and people will die… oh oh. Plus, Teddy wanted it. Do it now for Teddy please… gimme a break.
MIchelle’s falling asleep again… maybe it’s Vicki that makes her sleepy.
Heeeerrrrs Teddy! A secret letter to be opened when he died.
He’s playing the Ted Kennedy card now. Letter from Ted Kennedy (pan to sad looking widow Vicky and kids). (Gag me)
He’s closing by playing the Teddy Kennedy card…
I cannot believe this. Raising Ted from the dead.
badly sick?
Did Favreaux write this crock of manure, this steaming pile of cattle flop?
He’s said “Ted Kennedy” a lot. Some people are getting hammered right now. (See AGI’s link to the speech drinking game….)
I think Mechelle is holding Vicky’s hand.
business will fail people will die…….. dead bodies in the street………. callous commuters stepping over the dead and dying ……. to get to a job of a business going out of business all cause we didn’t pass health care……. oh my!!!!!!!!!!
An after thought–why was he late for such a “monumental” speech?
talking to teddy?
He was channeling him.
Illegals are covered now and are part of the phony “42 million” uninsured that Obama and the Democrats are lying about.
An estimated 12 million Americans are uninsured. So, he’s planning to bankrupt the nation, put all the health care companies, and medical staff out of business for 12 million?????
preacher mode slipping in
Somebody get the hook and bang the gong.
I nearly lost my schnapps, Buzz. ROFLMAO. I nominate you for post of the thread.
Even if I try to listen to what he’s saying (nothing new), its difficult to hear him. It’s like blah, blah, blah, blah, healthcare. Blah, blah, blah, blah, I still believe.
Yep, over exposed and boring.
he’s preaching now……….. do I hear a amen!
She can’t help it, she just can’t help it. There’s something about her, baby, that makes her want to give it to you. As in hell.
Michelle’s mind is elsewhere. On her college thesis, perhaps, as the President speaks of his mentor with Vicky sitting next to her.
Not a warm hand or glance for the widow.
Camera should stay away.
After that soft, compassionate faux tone, he gets real tough again. What an actor. TOTUS is good…even tells him how to sound.
Nothing new, and pretty pitiful going after Palin.
Well, he’ll never pass up an opportunity to snipe at Sarah or GWB. Tear down someone else in the hope of making yourself look better…in his case it makes him look bad.
Is he still talking? How long is this damn thing..
here’s rebuttal, charles boustani.
Has he said anything about public option yet? After all, the Kos crowd said this is their Waterloo.
i am not really sure what he said… i can never follow him. i think he said there will be a public option.
I tell you the liar comment, made my night, never heard that in a address to congress before. One person had a sign on that said “bull”.
He went for the ambiguous and soaring rhetoric. Didn’t work for me before and doesn’t work for me now. Public option? Sure, he mentioned it [to shore up the Far Left]. But I gaurantee: he will dump it for a bill, any bill to save his own political ass. And I say that not knowing whether the public option is truly the answer. I’m not sure it really is.
But expediency is the word of the day.
We are truly doomed!
Representative Boustany is a hell of a lot better that Jindal was…Clear and concise and expressed everything I want in reform.
At Team Sarah they said the Liar shout came from the GOP side and they shouted it out when he talked about scare tactics.
it came when he said illegals would not be covered.
going for the Kennedy history and attachment to all Americans is such crap, we all of course relate to the Kennedy’s. He really doesn’t know the American people. this is what happens when you spend your life being a thing instead of a person, striving for power instead of justice. He is very out of touch and apparent, far more than ever before.
Thanks to all of you who had the stomach to watch. I didn’t. enjoyed the comments.
same here. The sight of him and his voice make me want to hurl. seriously, didn’t think I could think so little of a person…and then Barry showed up.
short on details lacked common sense
According to Politico’
“A loud voice from the Republican side of the hall answered, “Lie” — my colleague Glenn Thrush reports it was Rep. Joe Wilson (R - S.C.) — drawing a second “It’s not true,” from Obama and a shake of Nancy Pelosi’s head.”
I am curious to know what the ratings/viewership were for this speech. If they were low it is clear he has lost the trust of the people and they felt they were just going to hear more of the same
i wonder when msnbc will say it was like the mob like terrorist filled town hall meetings?
Clara, thanks for info. Just posted it on Team Sarah and Conservatives4Palin…they will love it.
I didn’t think I could think less of a president after GWB but he is so awful that everyone, including Hoover looks good in comparison.
A drunken Grant looks better.
He makes me want to have a drink but I might get sick.
Article by Ben Smith with Lie video…
http://www.politico.com/singletitlevideo.html?bcpid=19407224001&bctid=38333358001
O’Reilly will have Alan Combes on his panel…I’ll have to hit mute when he opens his mouth.
Am I wrong? After he said no public plan, then he later spoke as if there was one? I think that’s what Rove heard and O’Reilly didn’t.
Bill just called him a kool-aid drinker. LOL
Oh God, Axelrod is such a creep.
I’ve noticed that Axelrod has a rather distinctive “tell”. He raises his eyebrows when he’s lying. His forehead must get worn out during interviews.
Katmoon said the Congressman who said “you lie” was Rep Joe Wilson of South Carolina. I will be sending him a note of thanks.
Ditto.
Ditto. Every time Obama mentioned that we needed to insure the 45 million who go uninsured there are 9 million of those 45 million who are illegal aliens. So either he is ignorant of who makes up that 45 million, or he lied.
Too bad out of the hundreds….only one had the nerve to call a lie a lie. I will also send Rep Wilson a note of thanks if his website hasn’t been hacked by Obamatrons. So many of the MSM are totally aghast that Wilson had the nerve to call out. There is a sight that reports the Dems had a field day booing Bush when he made various addresses to Congress:
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
On Joe Wilson:FLASHBACK: Dems booed Bush during State of the Union Speech…
September 10, 2009
Many hosts and pundits suggested the Democrats’ reaction was the first of its kind:
* TED KOPPEL (ABC host): When the president talked about the bankruptcy of Social Security, there were clearly some Democrats on the floor who thought that that was taking it too far. And they did something that, apparently, no one at this table has ever heard before. They booed. [ABC, Nightline, 2/2/05; Koppel’s panel consisted of former Bush adviser Mary Matalin, former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein, and former Clinton speechwriter Michael Waldman]
* JOHN ROBERTS (CBS White House correspondent): At a couple points in this address, it looked more like the British Parliament than the United States Congress. I’ve never heard the minority party shout at the president during the State of the Union address. [CBS, post-speech coverage, 2/2/05]
* JOE SCARBOROUGH (former U.S. representative (R-FL) and MSNBC host): After the Democrats booed and hissed, Republicans were on the floor saying, you know, we never once did that to Clinton. So every time he would talk about Social Security, the roars got a little louder. And they got behind their president. [MSNBC, Hardball, 2/2/05]
His site is was/is down, but maybe it is partly from people like us. I went and registered on his Face Book page as are hundreds of others.
I have seen more new names here than have ever been posting before. That is wonderful, America is awake and ready to defend our country.
Thanks from me too for your comments since I couldn’t watch him. The strategy that you can do practically nothing and then race in at the eleventh hour, give a speech, and win is pathetic — below my intelligence scale. We already know he’s made back-room deals with pharma.
Yeah, and by all means ignore the one person who is experienced in health insurance reform — Hillary Clinton.
Obama just shined the light on Medicare andMedicaid fraud. While these models could be expanded, who would sign onto this without tackling the fraud issue first?
The fraud is mostly HMOs (ie insurance companies) overbilling.
Why not cut out the fraud and waste now and show us they’re already saving money and have no need for rationing…which they are already doing.
Is that additional fraud as in Medicare part b? Or outside of Medicare and a separate fraud issue? Sounds like we got fraud problems regardless that are adding to our current premium costs. Fixing this should be job one. How’d the SEC do on Madoff?
Fran - what I dislike is the reporting of statistics to support one pov
I did not mean to imply that govt health program are the only ones suffering from fraud. Fraud, private or public, costs all payers into the system. Apparently, it is significant and huge savings could be found right here.
Oh don’t forget, we had a gentleman here in the Houston area who managed to get something like $30 million paid in fraudulent claims over 5 years by paying people to sign forms he’d then submit for reimbursement.
So it’s not just HMO’s. It’s individuals or small businesses.
I’d have thrown a tomato…. Aimed right for his mouth!
He is not so much without his styrofoam pillars. Go Sarah.
He did look small up there, didn’t he?
A poor little delusional man that realizes his goal as the first American dictator is not going to happen.
Next phase , depression , drugs , revenge……..
It’s only the truth–illegals won’t be covered–in the sense that Obama’s going to amnesty all the aliens so they won’t be illegal. That’s the little white lie.
I gave Durbin an earful re: fuming over someone showing disrespect to Obama after Obama TOTALLY disrespected Hillary (and Bil) Clinton all through the primaries and beyond–not to even mention the crucifixion of Sarah Palin. You can’t muscle your way into the WH and command respect.
FLASHBACK: Top Dem calls Bush ‘loser’ and liar…
FLASHBACK: Dems booed Bush during State of the Union Speech…
links at http://www.drudgereport.com/
Joe Wilson is my new hero.
I cannot forget Obama flipping Hillary Clinton the finger - and, Joe Wilson disrespected Obama?
I am sick of the hypocrite!!!!
Me too.
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In the l960s Canada’s Healthcare system–run by insurance companies in same way it’s now functioning in the U.S.–was dysfunctional and more than a third of the country’s population was suffering.
Tommy Douglas, a Baptist minister from a Third Party (Independent–NDP) pushed the Liberal (minority) government of Lester Pearson to enact a SINGLE-PAYER NATIONAL HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
It has worked tremendously well for the past 40 years and in recent survey 92% of Canadians are happy with it. Why wouldn’t they be? The administrative costs are 3% and the U.S. costs of insurance-run plans are 33%!!
Meantime the GDP share of healthcare in Canada is 8% while in the U.S. it’s almost 18%!!
Obummer has been fishy, slippery and timid from the time of the Campaign of Lies and Fraud when he distributed (his promo-thugs, the same jerks who were knocking signs off elderly women and making obscene comments to young girls holding Hillary signs!remember?) the phony brochures of Harry and Louise to misrepresent Hillary’s views. She had shouted: “SHAME ON YOU, BARACK” and the idiot McCafferty of CNN’s Obummer News had called Hillary “a Scolding mother” –a compliment, really!!!
Anyway, Obama never had nor willl he ever produce enough starch to stiffen his weakly, EUNUCH’S SPINE (one of his former ultra-left fans wrote this in OpEd News!) and adopt a Single Payer system. It would take guts that he never had!
Instead, he will be screwing up the current dysfunctional system making it worse for everyone. He should have explained himself 3 months earlier. Instead, his young thugs (at school and too young to be interested in Healthcare Reform and more likely to be incarcerated by now!) were absent as Obummer has always been in the passion department.
Yah, the Teleprompter gave a good rehearsal for the Director. But we all know he’s just an incompetent Understudy….
Ready for your close-up, Mr. Rahmbo (Ballerina) Emanuel?
In the 60s, Canada’s Healthcare system was run by insurance companies and was proving dysfunctional. This is the state of the current insurance-run dysfunctional U.S. system.
A third Independent party politican (Baptist minister) pushed the minority Liberal government of Lester Pearson in 1965 to enact a NATIONAL SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
It has worked beautifully, and ask some REAL Canadians about this, nor paid hacks out there in the pockets of the vultures of the INSURANCE LOBBYISTS RUNNING THE OBUMMER WHITE HOUSE!
In a recent poll, 92% Canadians love their system and wouldn’t trade it for the inefficient expensive American system the ends up buying congressmen by lobbyists. It’s only 8% of the GDP while the U.S. helathcare share of its GDP is 18%~~~
Meantime, only 3% of Canada’s medicare for all goes to administration costs. Over 33% is the American cost. You want efficiency, fairness and avoid bankrutpcies due to Medical Bills, Obumer should have kept his Campaign promise for Single Payer.
But he’s been bought by the vultures of the Insurers who spent half a billion to buy him and his cohorts.
Remember when Obummer misrepresneted HIllary’s much more mature and efficient Plan in the Campaign? His thugs were passing around brochures misrepresenting HIllary’s views. Hillary shouted: SHAME ON YOU, BARACK’! And the idiot McCafferty @ CNN for Obama News called her (as if it were an insult!) a “SCOLDING MOTHER”!!!
A former lefty pro-Obummer journalist in Oped News called Obama: “AN INEFFECTUAL, WEAK-SPINED EUNUCH”……and, yes, Joe Wilson spoke the Truth!
I am sick to death of these colectivists. Americans are for indivualism, not collectivism. They think we are their slaves. YES HE LIES! It’s more like 30% unemployment I heard last night. So who’s going to pay for this massive health care spending? They bankrupted Social Security and Medicare..how are they supposed to manage a nationwide healthcare modeled after UK? Pie in the sky. And if they manage to pass this monstrosity, who’s got their fingers in the profit pie? Obama, Pelosi, Reid and more..won’t mention who…she is too loved here even though she takes orders from the Council on Foriegn Relations.
We are not backing down against these radical red lefties posing as Dems. Look up the long list of all the congress creeps who are leftist red. You’ll be shocked.
and if obama manages to force his obamacare down our throats, will he then appoint a “CZAR” that will bypass congress thereby making all his promises moot?