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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254986</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should be...snap out of &#039;it&#039; and join us in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>should be&#8230;snap out of &#8216;it&#8217; and join us in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254985</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did I say such a thing?  LOL  

You CDS is all over the board blaming Clinton for bin Laden not being dead prior to Bush taking office.  While giving him a huge pass for not having any meetings on terrorism with the attack on The USS Cole a month before his election.  

Geez...snap out of and join us in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did I say such a thing?  LOL  </p>
<p>You CDS is all over the board blaming Clinton for bin Laden not being dead prior to Bush taking office.  While giving him a huge pass for not having any meetings on terrorism with the attack on The USS Cole a month before his election.  </p>
<p>Geez&#8230;snap out of and join us in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254779</link>
		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bin Laden claimed credit for September 11:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html

The only surprise that bin Laden had as an engineer was that the tower fell. The plan had been all along to bring a collapse to the world economic markets with this terror attack.

What you are talking about makes absolutely no sense so I am not sure why I am even responding to it. I may suggest calling Charlie Sheen or Rose O’Donnell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bin Laden claimed credit for September 11:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html</a></p>
<p>The only surprise that bin Laden had as an engineer was that the tower fell. The plan had been all along to bring a collapse to the world economic markets with this terror attack.</p>
<p>What you are talking about makes absolutely no sense so I am not sure why I am even responding to it. I may suggest calling Charlie Sheen or Rose O’Donnell.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254775</link>
		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, while that may be true, Gorelick’s 1995 &lt;em&gt;&quot;Instructions on Separation of Certain Foreign Counterintelligence and Criminal Investigations&quot;&lt;/em&gt; prevented the foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. If this was already policy then why was her memo necessary? The result of what was called Gorelick’s wall (she used the term “walled off”) obstructed the investigation into Atta and Moussaoui.

Ironically the next place Gorelick ends up was as Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae.

I am still flabbergasted that Gorelick ended up on the 9/11 Commission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, while that may be true, Gorelick’s 1995 <em>&#8220;Instructions on Separation of Certain Foreign Counterintelligence and Criminal Investigations&#8221;</em> prevented the foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. If this was already policy then why was her memo necessary? The result of what was called Gorelick’s wall (she used the term “walled off”) obstructed the investigation into Atta and Moussaoui.</p>
<p>Ironically the next place Gorelick ends up was as Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae.</p>
<p>I am still flabbergasted that Gorelick ended up on the 9/11 Commission.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254729</link>
		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you also believe that &lt;em&gt;&quot;Bush/Cheney knew about the 9/11 plot and intentionally did nothing to stop it.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
 
Maybe you should also check out that case of BDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you also believe that <em>&#8220;Bush/Cheney knew about the 9/11 plot and intentionally did nothing to stop it.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Maybe you should also check out that case of BDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254726</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As pointed out at length above, Osama bin Laden is a convenient boogeyman but probably neither architect nor complicit in the WTC attacks.

Had this been regarded as a criminal act-- a crime against humanity-- the entire planet would have been on the side of the United States. Even bin Laden was stunned by the fact that the towers were brought to the ground, and at that moment, even Al Qaida members were shook by the mayhem-- I don&#039;t think it&#039;s quite what they intended.

Had this been regarded as a criminal act, we would have gone to work with the rest of the planet to bring those responsible to justice.

An extraordinary number of Afghanis, and let&#039;s don&#039;t even talk about the inexplicable Iraqi genocide, would still be alive to kiss their children on the forehead as they went to work in the morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As pointed out at length above, Osama bin Laden is a convenient boogeyman but probably neither architect nor complicit in the WTC attacks.</p>
<p>Had this been regarded as a criminal act&#8211; a crime against humanity&#8211; the entire planet would have been on the side of the United States. Even bin Laden was stunned by the fact that the towers were brought to the ground, and at that moment, even Al Qaida members were shook by the mayhem&#8211; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s quite what they intended.</p>
<p>Had this been regarded as a criminal act, we would have gone to work with the rest of the planet to bring those responsible to justice.</p>
<p>An extraordinary number of Afghanis, and let&#8217;s don&#8217;t even talk about the inexplicable Iraqi genocide, would still be alive to kiss their children on the forehead as they went to work in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254686</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once Bush was elected in November of that year, it is my understanding that classified briefings were given to the in coming Bush administration. 

Part of me, in hind-sight, had a false sense of security, due to the &quot;experienced hands&quot; that formed the nucleus of the incoming administration.

Say what you will about any of the players involved, many were not idiots. I remembered thinking, that there wasn&#039;t much I would agree with but national security was the &quot;Republican issue&quot;, even though &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a013101report#a013101report&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

The final report&lt;/a&gt; (issued in January 2001)
&lt;blockquote&gt;of the US Commission on National Security/21st Century, co-chaired by former Senators Gary Hart (D-CO) and Warren Rudman (R-NH), is issued. The bipartisan panel was put together in 1998 by then-President Bill Clinton and then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Hart and Rudman personally brief National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and Secretary of State Colin Powell on their findings. The report has &lt;a href=&quot;http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/nssg/PhaseIIIFR.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;50 recommendations&lt;/a&gt; on how to combat terrorism in the US, but all of them are ignored by the Bush administration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;.

LJ, question have any been put into practice?

That Katie Coric interview with you was, I believe, the first time I had heard you speak.
Thanks for the education since then.

last and most important a moment of &quot; &quot; .... for my childhood friends who died that day and all the other loved ones who never said goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once Bush was elected in November of that year, it is my understanding that classified briefings were given to the in coming Bush administration. </p>
<p>Part of me, in hind-sight, had a false sense of security, due to the &#8220;experienced hands&#8221; that formed the nucleus of the incoming administration.</p>
<p>Say what you will about any of the players involved, many were not idiots. I remembered thinking, that there wasn&#8217;t much I would agree with but national security was the &#8220;Republican issue&#8221;, even though <a href="http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a013101report#a013101report" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>The final report</a> (issued in January 2001)</p>
<blockquote><p>of the US Commission on National Security/21st Century, co-chaired by former Senators Gary Hart (D-CO) and Warren Rudman (R-NH), is issued. The bipartisan panel was put together in 1998 by then-President Bill Clinton and then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Hart and Rudman personally brief National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and Secretary of State Colin Powell on their findings. The report has <a href="http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/nssg/PhaseIIIFR.pdf" rel="nofollow">50 recommendations</a> on how to combat terrorism in the US, but all of them are ignored by the Bush administration.</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
<p>LJ, question have any been put into practice?</p>
<p>That Katie Coric interview with you was, I believe, the first time I had heard you speak.<br />
Thanks for the education since then.</p>
<p>last and most important a moment of &#8221; &#8221; &#8230;. for my childhood friends who died that day and all the other loved ones who never said goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: MBC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254677</link>
		<dc:creator>MBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take heart Docelder.  I cried many times today and actually started the morning by playing my new CD of Neil Diamond&#039;s &quot;Coming to America&quot;.  I don&#039;t have anything out in my yard, but my grief was still deep, not only for 9-11, but for the state of our country today.

This past week I attended a Tea Party on one of the TeaParty Express stops.  I live in a suburb of Pgh where most of the residents work about 25 miles away.  Nevertheless, the place was jam packed with &quot;mobsters&quot;.  I had to park a mile away from the event. Funny our local news stations had not a thing about it in the 6pm or 11pm news.  I was delighted thought to see the turn-out at 2:30pm on a weekday. I was reassured that I am not alone in my frustration, and we are little by little making our voices heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take heart Docelder.  I cried many times today and actually started the morning by playing my new CD of Neil Diamond&#8217;s &#8220;Coming to America&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t have anything out in my yard, but my grief was still deep, not only for 9-11, but for the state of our country today.</p>
<p>This past week I attended a Tea Party on one of the TeaParty Express stops.  I live in a suburb of Pgh where most of the residents work about 25 miles away.  Nevertheless, the place was jam packed with &#8220;mobsters&#8221;.  I had to park a mile away from the event. Funny our local news stations had not a thing about it in the 6pm or 11pm news.  I was delighted thought to see the turn-out at 2:30pm on a weekday. I was reassured that I am not alone in my frustration, and we are little by little making our voices heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254669</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that&#039;s not true.  Gorelick didn&#039;t have much to do with that.  It was a problem long before she showed up.  This really was an unfair criticism of her.  There always has been the tension on the use of intel vice evidence and the sharing of such between the FBI and the CIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s not true.  Gorelick didn&#8217;t have much to do with that.  It was a problem long before she showed up.  This really was an unfair criticism of her.  There always has been the tension on the use of intel vice evidence and the sharing of such between the FBI and the CIA.</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254655</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But aren&#039;t you essentially doing the same thing with Clinton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But aren&#8217;t you essentially doing the same thing with Clinton?</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254651</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://rebelreports.com/post/142205469/the-democrats-selective-amnesia-on-assassination</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rebelreports.com/post/142205469/the-democrats-selective-amnesia-on-assassination" rel="nofollow">http://rebelreports.com/post/142205469/the-democrats-selective-amnesia-on-assassination</a></p>
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		<title>By: sjc-tx</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254596</link>
		<dc:creator>sjc-tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hind sight is ALWAYS 20/20...   Asking why or who is accountable is a mute point. 

Asking WHY our CURRENT admin..., mainly obama, is so unwilling to recognize terrorism, call it by its name, and even goes so far as to &lt;em&gt;SUCK UP TO COUNTRIES that supported this violence against us&lt;/em&gt;, is more to the point&lt;strong&gt;!!!   HOW FREAKIN NAIVE AND IGNORANT are we??!!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hind sight is ALWAYS 20/20&#8230;   Asking why or who is accountable is a mute point. </p>
<p>Asking WHY our CURRENT admin&#8230;, mainly obama, is so unwilling to recognize terrorism, call it by its name, and even goes so far as to <em>SUCK UP TO COUNTRIES that supported this violence against us</em>, is more to the point<strong>!!!   HOW FREAKIN NAIVE AND IGNORANT are we??!!!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Onofre's arm</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254578</link>
		<dc:creator>Onofre's arm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many documents ended up in Sandy Burglar&#039;s socks and underwear?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many documents ended up in Sandy Burglar&#8217;s socks and underwear?</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Washington Collier</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254566</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha Washington Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we have a real president again, I want her or him to be at Ground Zero for a.m. ceremonies, on to Pennsylvania and back to the Pentagon om 9/11.  They can stagger the ceremonies around the arrival of the President. They are not that far apart.  

Airforce One has been used for date night in NYC but 0zer0 couldn&#039;t get there?  Shameful and, as always, out of tune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we have a real president again, I want her or him to be at Ground Zero for a.m. ceremonies, on to Pennsylvania and back to the Pentagon om 9/11.  They can stagger the ceremonies around the arrival of the President. They are not that far apart.  </p>
<p>Airforce One has been used for date night in NYC but 0zer0 couldn&#8217;t get there?  Shameful and, as always, out of tune.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasBuckeye</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/11/remembering-9-11/#comment-1254562</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasBuckeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Bush and Cheney failed to fix the national security interagency process&lt;/em&gt;

It doesn&#039;t sound like that process is something that any president could fix without serious cooperation from agency personnel ...



&quot;The interagency is not a place. It is a process involving human beings and complex organizations with different cultures, different outlooks on whatis good for the national interest and the best policy to pursue all driven by the compulsion to defend and expand turf. The process is political (therefore conflictual)because at stake is power, personal, institutional, or party. The power game involves the push and pull of negotiation, the guarding of policy prerogatives, of hammering out compromises, and the normal human and institutional propensity to resist change.13 Regardless of the style of the president and the structures developed for the management of national security policy, the interagency process performs the same basic functions: identifies policy issues and questions, formulates options, raises issues to the appropriate level for decisions, makes decisions where appropriate, and oversees the implementation of decisions throughout the executive departments.&quot;

...

&quot;The tensions generated by cultural differences and jealousy over turf will always be part of the interagency process. The diplomatic and the military cultures dominate the national security system, though there are other cultures and even subcultures, within the dominant cultures.&quot;

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/army-usawc/strategy2004/17marcella.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Bush and Cheney failed to fix the national security interagency process</em></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t sound like that process is something that any president could fix without serious cooperation from agency personnel &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The interagency is not a place. It is a process involving human beings and complex organizations with different cultures, different outlooks on whatis good for the national interest and the best policy to pursue all driven by the compulsion to defend and expand turf. The process is political (therefore conflictual)because at stake is power, personal, institutional, or party. The power game involves the push and pull of negotiation, the guarding of policy prerogatives, of hammering out compromises, and the normal human and institutional propensity to resist change.13 Regardless of the style of the president and the structures developed for the management of national security policy, the interagency process performs the same basic functions: identifies policy issues and questions, formulates options, raises issues to the appropriate level for decisions, makes decisions where appropriate, and oversees the implementation of decisions throughout the executive departments.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The tensions generated by cultural differences and jealousy over turf will always be part of the interagency process. The diplomatic and the military cultures dominate the national security system, though there are other cultures and even subcultures, within the dominant cultures.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/army-usawc/strategy2004/17marcella.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/army-usawc/strategy2004/17marcella.pdf</a></p>
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